libera/#devuan/ Thursday, 2022-06-23

rwpdjph, I haven't used the mini.iso in my memory but the netinst image will, I am pretty sure, install linux-image-amd64 which pulls in the associated kernel.00:41
rwpYou said mini.iso gave you a choice of kernels.  I have no recollection of ever seeing that in an installation.  But I don't usually use mini but use netinst so I probably should try it sometime to see what you saw there.00:41
rwpI have no idea what is different between linux-image-5.10.0-13-amd64- and linux-image-5.10.0-13-cloud-amd64-unsigned but modules maybe?00:42
rwpI generally do not have systems requiring trusted boot and do not use signed kernels since they are not required.00:43
djphrwp: uh, I said no such thing about what the iso had on it.01:55
rwpdjph, My misunderstanding then.  I read "(I'm installing devuan from the mini.iso) The prompt gives me many options, the most relevant are: linux-image-5.10.0-13-cloud-amd64, and linux-image-5.10.0-13-cloud-amd64-unsigned" and assumed you were using the mini.iso to install and that it prompted you with those options.02:29
Jjp137...wasn't that someone else?02:37
djphrwp: uhh, that was a 'pablo...' something02:50
rwpdjph, Oh!  You are right.  I somehow got confused reading the scrollback.  Apologies!05:25
chomwittin a debtree diagram in the devuan website i see some shapes.  I've read man debtree but still not clear. For example what does the diamond shape means?11:39
djphchomwitt: have the link handy?11:51
rrq"A diamond shape is used to indicate an end package" .. one of those in the "end list"11:58
chomwitthttps://pkginfo.devuan.org/cgi-bin/debtree-query.html?c=package&q=xserver-xorg11:58
rrq"Packages included in this list  are  shown in  the  graph, but their dependencies will not be shown."12:01
* rrq apologises... also reads the man page ;)12:02
chomwitt'end package' is a debtree term i guess.12:04
chomwitti've not seet it in any 'debian' admin  manual12:05
rrqyes. it has a file /etc/debtree/endlist of some 150 packages12:05
chomwittindeed .. $ apt-rdepends -d  xserver-xorg  | dot -Tps | okular - &  wont show any diamonds12:07
rrqright ... it might illustrate the reason for the "end packages" :)12:15
rrqpersonally I favour "debtree xserver-xorg -R --max-depth=1"12:17
chomwittit look clean . cool12:18
chomwittbut i dont like that diamond debtree thing.. it should display apt system info only12:19
chomwittwhat the red arrow from xserver-org to itself means?12:20
rrqI haven't found anything better than the man page; apart from the self-dcoumenting perl code12:21
rrqbut man pages says that the red are Conflicts.. which seems odd12:22
chomwittin a new qemu installation trying to login with non root user in the GUI login screen i get "failed to execute login command'12:50
rrqsame in vt2 console?12:51
rrqthis is daedalus?12:51
chomwittno. i login from there12:51
chomwittchimaera12:52
rrqhmm.. from the iso + network?12:52
chomwittyes12:52
rrqapparently someone has improved something ... I'll see if I can replicate12:55
chomwittok12:55
rrqdefault xfce4 I guess12:58
chomwittyes12:58
rrqrepliction failed13:35
chomwitti'll try to reinstall13:36
rrqanything "non-standard" .. ege encryoted disk or openrc or whatever13:36
rrqI selected only DE+xfce and standard13:39
rrqbios boot13:39
rrqsysvinit13:39
rrqplain disk setup with ext4, single partition(19G) + swap(1G) .. RAM=1G13:40
rrqah.. 64-bit13:42
chomwittok13:44
Steffen67Hi, I just finished my Beowulf installation on a full encrypted ssd, but  still have some problems18:31
Steffen67On boot, there's coming a message before grub2 splash, that no file is found and to press any key18:32
Steffen67sorry, no drive is found18:33
Steffen67after a while or pressing any key, I#m asked for passphrase and then boots as expected18:34
ltsI believe I have the same error, actually. I reboot that box so rarely I haven't bothered to investigate. Encrypted root, not-encrypted /boot.18:35
Steffen67Hi Its, I'm not sure if its an error18:36
Steffen67I've a fully encrypted disk (including /boot), so at boot, theres no drive thats readable at boot. But I expected to be asked for crypt passphrase at first...18:38
Steffen67Hmm, /boot is ext2 and not encrypted19:17

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