libera/#devuan/ Wednesday, 2022-07-06

spine-o-saurushay is anyone else have issue where the system isn't showing files even though the user is in the same group id?01:40
spine-o-saurusthe folder and files are showing as the same group id but the system says permissions are denied01:41
Xenguyspine-o-saurus, Hrm01:42
spine-o-saurusnow im wondering if my install got corrupted01:42
XenguySo clearly some permissions issue, yes?01:42
XenguyTry providing a specific example of the issue perhaps01:42
spine-o-saurusya i tried sticky bit on group and that never worked either01:43
XenguyWithout details it's hard to say, but I suspect sticky bit should not likely be relevant01:44
spine-o-saurusAccess: (0755/drwxr-xr-x)  Uid: ( 1130/ UNKNOWN)   Gid: ( 4050/ mags)01:44
spine-o-saurusthis is the folder01:44
spine-o-saurusoh wait, the primary user group is wrong01:45
spine-o-saurusthat is why01:45
XenguyAnd one wonders how it got that way?  What does a simple ls -la say?01:46
XenguyOr ls -lad01:46
birdsdoes this channel got a discord server too or nah?01:49
XenguyHopefully not, it's the usual proprietary crap01:55
Xenguyi.e. that we try to avoid01:55
Xenguyspine-o-saurus, If you solved your issue, it can be educational for others to know what the solution is/was01:56
spine-o-saurusi had to relog after initial group change. /etc/passwd is showing user initial group matched but same no permission erro01:59
spine-o-saurusi think something got bugged, i created a newer user and it isn't having the same issue01:59
spine-o-saurusim going to reinstall to see if that happens again though02:03
spine-o-saurusya i think the installer set initial group as same on user so i'll have to avoid setting up user for installs02:14
spine-o-saurusworking fine now after recreating user02:14
rwpspine-o-saurus, A process uid/gid is assigned when the process is created.  Meaning that if the /etc/passwd and group files are changed then one must log out and log back in again in order to get the newly modified groups to be assigned at login time.02:23
rwpThat is a very typical confusion that happens a lot.02:23
mtnmanhello19:44
mtnmanis there currently any method to install devuan on a beagleboard?19:45
fsmithredmtnman, what arch is that?19:57
fsmithredhttps://pkgmaster.devuan.org/devuan/dists/chimaera/main/installer-armhf/current/images/hd-media/SD-card-images/20:01
mtnmanarm6420:01
mtnmanfsmithred: thanks20:01
fsmithredhttps://pkgmaster.devuan.org/devuan/dists/chimaera/main/20:02
mtnmanfsmithred: do you recommend using installer or prebuilt images?20:03
fsmithredha! I was just about to tell you not to ask me what to do with any of that.20:04
mtnmanfsmithred: sounda familiar you said the same thing about a year or so ago!20:06
mtnmanin any case, i had difficulty using the concatenable images and was never successful20:07
fsmithredsomebody send me some arms to play with and I can have a different answer.20:07
blizzowI did an apt-get update on my laptop. nvidia-persistenced now seems perpetually busted. Anyone know of a good fix?22:43
fsmithredremove it22:44
blizzowAlso, digikam seems to have disappeared from my installation and it no longer shows up in my apt caches.22:44
fsmithredif you install nvidia, use --no-install-recommends and you won't get the persistenced package22:44
jjakobdoesnt' openssh-server provide its sftp server on the same port? why does openssh-sftp-server exist?23:02
jjakobwell, openssh-server depends on openssh-sftp-server, so that would answer my question23:04
rwpjjakob, Yes. openssh-sftp-server contains /usr/lib/openssh/sftp-server which implements sftp in ssh.23:18

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