libera/#devuan/ Sunday, 2022-10-09

tux12so, i made a new install, this time just adding KDE to the default tasks selection, and everything is ok (same as i usually get on debian). I have been asked to chose between sddm and slim during install (choosed slim).01:40
tux12got the french keyboard layout this time.01:41
golinuxGood news, tux12!02:20
tux12yes. Anyway as someone pointed out yesterday i should rather report this upstream, it is not devuan specific. Sorry for inconvenience and thank you everyone for your replies.02:31
golinuxNo inconvenience at all. Carry on!02:43
tux12:)02:44
fluffywolfAfdal:  huh?  it seems fairly obvious russia has been meddling in elections throughout the world, including the US.  this is also not a new thing.04:58
Wonka*sigh* Firefox only does pulseaudio for some while now, that's why I had it installed. Now there's this pipewire stuff. And it led to aptitude uninstalling pulseaudio. And now, firefox is mute.17:58
HanicefWonka: have you tried installing pipewire-pulse and running that?18:01
WonkaCurrently I'm wondering why it uninstalled pulseaudio at all, because I can install it just fine without any conflicts...18:03
Wonkaand yes, pipewire-pulse is installed18:03
HanicefWonka: while pipewire and pulseaudio can be installed at the same time, they can't run at the same time. if you try, one of the them will lock the snd block files preventing the other daemons from playing any sounds18:05
Hanicefalso, is pipewire-pulse running? it's a separate daemon, in case you didn't know18:06
Wonkauhm... how would I *run* pipewire-pulse though? The package only contains systemd units.18:06
Hanicefby starting /usr/bin/pipewire-pulse18:07
Wonkaas user? as root? on boot? on login?18:08
Hanicefwell, you can start as user. just run the program in the command line after pipewire has started18:08
Hanicefthe only important part is that pipewire-pulse is started *after* pipewire18:09
hagbardDidn't firefox re-enable plain alsa at some point?18:10
Wonkawell, the one from 'https://download.mozilla.org/?product=firefox-latest-ssl&os=linux64&lang=en-US' at least does not work without pulseaudio18:17
Wonkaor at least with alsa alone18:18
furrymcgeeabout:config?18:21
Wonkano match on "alsa"18:30
Wonkahm. hm. not trivial to get to run currently... I'll postpone that, reinstalling pulseaudio just worked...18:30
onefangFirefox-esr from the chimeara repos works fine with alsa.19:01
hagbardDidn't firefox re-enable plain alsa at some point?19:17
hagbardups19:17
hagbardthat was cat on kbd19:17
golinuxI have never used pulseaudio and always had sound in Firefox because Devuan has apulse.19:43
rwpAFAIK the upstream Mozilla version of Firefox only supports PulseAudio but works with the "apulse firefox" emulator wrapper for ALSA.20:45
rwpDebian patches ALSA support back into Firefox for the distro package supplied version.20:45
rwpWhether one needs "apulse firefox" or can run just "firefox" depends upon if they have PA installed or not.  But apulse works very well.20:46
rwpI imagine PipeWire when it eventually replaces PulseAudio everywhere will make the apulse adaptor obsolete.20:47

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