| tmlind | gordon1: sounds like keyboard issue could happen at any point, not just boot. seeing the oops from uart would be good, you could also try to configure pstore like we have for droid4 m-l kernel | 08:25 |
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| rei2 | hi everybody | 08:51 |
| rei2 | i have a question about n900, can i ask it here? | 08:52 |
| uvos | Wizzup: nice | 09:14 |
| Wizzup | rei2: sure | 09:55 |
| rei2 | how is battery usage on this phone? are there new batteries made for this phone by 3rd-parties? | 10:06 |
| uvos | rei2: very very bad currently on leste, yes there are polarcells they are fairly new. | 10:08 |
| rei2 | uvos: oh, what about CSSU? | 10:09 |
| uvos | rei2: great but cssu is abandonware and cant connect to modern ssl sites for instance | 10:10 |
| uvos | but ask others about freemantle i have used it for like 1h total... | 10:11 |
| rei2 | oh, ssl should not be a problem :) | 10:11 |
| uvos | are you intending to buy a n900? | 10:12 |
| rei2 | i'm just looking for a <4.5 inch phone with keyboard which does not run android. | 10:12 |
| rei2 | all i want is irc and pdf reader and a music player, nothing else. | 10:13 |
| uvos | if you can strech your size requirement just a tiny bit a droid 4 with leste dose everything you ask | 10:14 |
| uvos | and has good powermanagment and is much mucht faster than a n900 | 10:14 |
| uvos | and often cheeper too | 10:14 |
| uvos | its 130x70x13 ish mm | 10:15 |
| rei2 | droid4 is nice, but it is harder to find in my place and ~5 times more expensive. | 10:16 |
| uvos | where is "my place" if i may ask | 10:16 |
| rei2 | iran. | 10:16 |
| uvos | ok | 10:17 |
| uvos | well n900 and droid 4 are pretty mutch the only devices that fit you bill so | 10:19 |
| uvos | n900 it mus be in this case | 10:20 |
| rei2 | uvos: thanks a lot. | 10:24 |
| freemangordon | Wizzup: do I get it right that I shall check "RSN" for wpa2/eap and "WPA" for wpa. Also, how do I detect wep? | 15:43 |
| freemangordon | basically this is all I need, so maybe code sharing is not a good option | 15:43 |
| Wizzup | freemangordon: you keep saying that ;-) I think all the code that does this is also in wpaicd | 15:44 |
| freemangordon | yes, but it does way more than that | 15:45 |
| Wizzup | https://github.com/maemo-leste/libicd-network-wpasupplicant/blob/master/src/wpaicd.c#L695 | 15:45 |
| freemangordon | ok :) | 15:45 |
| diejuse | uvos: where can I buy a Droid4? | 16:18 |
| gordon1 | second that question | 16:19 |
| Wizzup | ebay has them usually | 16:19 |
| diejuse | I have I have read a part of the conversation from a few hours ago but I disconnected. | 16:19 |
| Wizzup | if you plan to help our with kernel dev and/or maemo leste dev and are in europe, I can ship one | 16:19 |
| Wizzup | s/our with/out with/ | 16:19 |
| diejuse | Wizzup: Thanks but don't worry. I don't know if I am qualified to help you with the kernel. | 16:21 |
| uvos | diejuse: ebay us has them with internatinal shipping occasionally | 16:21 |
| uvos | diejuse: other than that you will need a friend in us to ship it over. | 16:22 |
| Wizzup | diejuse: well, testers are also welcome, just let me know | 16:23 |
| diejuse | Wizzup: I am an intensive tester, yes XD Thank you, I will ask you if I find it difficult to get one :) | 16:26 |
| Wizzup | sure thing | 16:27 |
| diejuse | What bothers me most about these older devices is the short battery life. I love its physical keyboard layout though. How long does the Droid 4 last with Maemo Leste installed? | 16:28 |
| Wizzup | diejuse: with maemo leste installed 1-2 days with modem on, but we should get to more than that | 16:28 |
| diejuse | wtf wow | 16:29 |
| uvos | droid bionic dose way better | 16:29 |
| uvos | i get 5+ days regularly | 16:29 |
| uvos | (doing nothing with it but ssh in sometimes and with modem on and wifi connected) | 16:29 |
| diejuse | That is incredible! With intensive use does it last that long? | 16:29 |
| uvos | no not very | 16:29 |
| uvos | screen on time is farly short maybe 4+5h on my d4 with the very good battery | 16:30 |
| uvos | and about the same on the bionic with the old extended battery | 16:30 |
| uvos | thats realy use | 16:30 |
| uvos | mostly browsing and some telegram use and playing Simon Tatham's Portable Puzzle Collection | 16:31 |
| diejuse | I understand, that seems to me more normal numbers. | 16:31 |
| uvos | so 4h of active use | 16:31 |
| uvos | normaly lasts 1 day of mixed usage easy | 16:32 |
| Wizzup | It should get better with OFF mode for omap4 | 16:32 |
| Wizzup | but yeah :) | 16:32 |
| diejuse | 1 day is fine | 16:32 |
| Daanct12 | How long will GPS get a fix on the N900? | 16:33 |
| uvos | untill battery runs out :P | 16:33 |
| uvos | you mean how long it takes? | 16:33 |
| uvos | we dont do agps atm so can be several minutes | 16:33 |
| Wizzup | Daanct12: depends on how many sattelites are visible, on the n900, gps3.c is also required | 16:34 |
| Wizzup | I am not sure if we have that configured already. | 16:34 |
| uvos | afaik we do | 16:34 |
| Wizzup | ok | 16:34 |
| uvos | devel at least | 16:34 |
| Wizzup | going to try that now | 16:34 |
| Daanct12 | AGPS is greyed out for me | 16:34 |
| Wizzup | yeah, agps is not supported atm | 16:35 |
| parazyd | Wizzup: I set up the N900 gps | 16:38 |
| parazyd | It should work fine | 16:38 |
| Wizzup | ok | 16:39 |
| Wizzup | parazyd: is location-status and such already in the meta pkg? | 16:40 |
| parazyd | We have hildon-connectivity-location as meta | 16:41 |
| Wizzup | ok | 16:42 |
| parazyd | You _might_ need to install gps-nokia-n900 by hand | 16:42 |
| parazyd | I forgot if I included it or not | 16:43 |
| parazyd | This is gps3.c | 16:43 |
| mighty17[m] | how can i put the powervr blobs in device? | 17:36 |
| buZz | they're already included in the images | 17:36 |
| mighty17[m] | from https://git.ti.com/cgit/graphics/omap5-sgx-ddk-um-linux/?h=ti-img-sgx/zeus/1.17.4948957 | 17:36 |
| mighty17[m] | buZz: not in n900, i have another device | 17:37 |
| buZz | oh, then no clue :) | 17:37 |
| buZz | afaik took ~a year before we got em working for droid4 :) | 17:37 |
| mighty17[m] | I have the same omap4430 as d4 :D | 17:38 |
| buZz | nice, why not just grab the d4 image then? | 17:39 |
| mighty17[m] | Also there are packages for it in pmOS but nothing for debian :( | 17:39 |
| buZz | powervr is internal to omap , is it not? | 17:39 |
| Wizzup | mighty17[m]: what do you mean, 'put the powervr blobs in device' ? | 17:39 |
| buZz | i guess looking for a 'apt install powervr-drivers' or something | 17:40 |
| mighty17[m] | Wizzup I made kernel using linux_openpvrsgx repo now I need userspace blobs don't I? | 17:40 |
| uvos | mighty17[m]: you should be able to just install the leste driver package from leste | 17:40 |
| uvos | if you have the kernelspace merged | 17:40 |
| uvos | mighty17[m]: kernelspace: https://github.com/tmlind/linux_openpvrsgx.git | 17:41 |
| uvos | droid4-pending-* branch | 17:41 |
| uvos | note that the leste package only works with up to and including 5.11 | 17:42 |
| mighty17[m] | Yup I have it https://github.com/MightyM17/linux_openpvrsgx and would like to use 1.17 for wayland | 17:42 |
| uvos | then grabing the files from the ti repo above is enough | 17:43 |
| mighty17[m] | Just cp it in respective space in the device right? | 17:43 |
| uvos | yes | 17:44 |
| mighty17[m] | For bin it'll be /usr/bin and so on | 17:44 |
| mighty17[m] | Thanks a lot! | 17:44 |
| uvos | you can also use https://github.com/IMbackK/pvr-omap4 | 17:45 |
| uvos | and https://github.com/IMbackK/mesa/tree/mesa-pvr-meamo | 17:45 |
| uvos | if you wan to use the hybrid mesa | 17:45 |
| uvos | those are deban packages | 17:45 |
| uvos | but you have to build them yourself | 17:45 |
| mighty17[m] | Thanks! Will look into them | 17:48 |
| mighty17[m] | <uvos "and https://github.com/IMbackK/m"> Isn't this 1.9ddk? | 17:48 |
| uvos | no | 17:48 |
| uvos | this is bits of ddk 1.17 with mesa with chromeos patches | 17:48 |
| mighty17[m] | Oh that's great thanks! So build and cp files ? | 17:49 |
| uvos | they are packaged | 17:49 |
| uvos | just build the debian packages and install them | 17:49 |
| mighty17[m] | <uvos "just build the debian packages a"> I don't think I can build them on device | 17:56 |
| mighty17[m] | Or I can set the DESTDIR to the device | 18:03 |
| uvos | mighty17[m]: no you have to build mesa for armv7 ofc | 18:16 |
| uvos | should be fine to do on device | 18:17 |
| mighty17[m] | <uvos "should be fine to do on device"> the point is, the ui (phosh) might not load without mesa, and usb doesnt work | 18:20 |
| uvos | ssh? | 18:29 |
| mighty17[m] | <uvos "ssh?"> ssh via wifi? lol i need ui to enable wifi and for ui i need mesa! | 18:32 |
| mighty17[m] | usb somehow magically broke | 18:32 |
| uvos | you can just configure wpa_supplicant to auto connect to your ap by pushing a file.... | 18:33 |
| uvos | i wouldent bother with pvr untill the rest of the system works to the point that you can have a interactive shell on device at least... | 18:34 |
| bencoh | same | 18:34 |
| uvos | also iirc phosh dosent work on pvr | 18:38 |
| uvos | at least it dident for me when i tried it | 18:38 |
| buZz | if you arent running maemo to begin with , why not just use wicd for wireless config | 18:43 |
| buZz | oh, because maybe eventually that pmos takes it over? | 18:43 |
| buZz | you dont want networkmanager fights on device, they are bad for batterylife | 18:44 |
| mighty17[m] | <uvos "also iirc phosh dosent work on p"> in pmOS it does | 20:52 |
| mighty17[m] | https://wiki.postmarketos.org/wiki/File:Mainline-phosh-espressowifi.png | 20:52 |
| mighty17[m] | but maemo has older pvr ddk | 20:53 |
| uvos | mighty17[m]: no it dident work with ddk 1.17 | 20:54 |
| mighty17[m] | worked for me in pmOS | 20:54 |
| uvos | but that was quite some time ago lots of wayland compositors added changes to fix problems with pvr | 20:54 |
| uvos | like eg. sway/wlroots etc | 20:54 |
| mighty17[m] | <uvos "mighty17: no it dident work with"> iirc u need patched wlroots | 20:54 |
| uvos | right | 20:55 |
| uvos | so id dosent just work ;) | 20:55 |
| mighty17[m] | <uvos "right"> https://github.com/openpvrsgx-devgroup/linux_openpvrsgx/issues/4 | 20:55 |
| uvos | mighty17[m]: yes we know | 20:56 |
| uvos | that was debugged here more or less :P | 20:56 |
| mighty17[m] | yeah its kinda hacky but works tm | 20:56 |
| mighty17[m] | <uvos "that was debugged here more or l"> oh nice | 20:56 |
| mighty17[m] | till when will powervr users have to use complicated methods :( | 20:57 |
| bencoh | till powervr-based chips are no longer used I guess | 22:14 |
| L29Ah | 17:35:51]<Wizzup> yeah, agps is not supported atm | 22:20 |
| L29Ah | is AGPS done in software or by the GPS hardware itself btw? | 22:20 |
| Wizzup | L29Ah: it depends on the device, but for both d4 and n900 we need to upload the data to the modem in some way | 22:23 |
| Wizzup | and they have different ways of downloading the almanac I think | 22:23 |
| uvos | so are the issues around conndialog/icd2 failing to connect untill you reopen all dialogs fixed? | 22:36 |
| uvos | and failing to connect in various other ways wpa_supplicant by itself never dose | 22:36 |
| Wizzup | uvos: the former, maybe, depending on freemangordon's fixes | 22:40 |
| uvos | no its still there | 22:42 |
| uvos | to bad :( | 22:42 |
| freemangordon | uvos: which one? | 22:42 |
| freemangordon | "first connect attempt always fails"? | 22:42 |
| uvos | freemangordon: boot d4 and first connect fails with icd2 | 22:42 |
| uvos | freemangordon: never dose with wpa_supplicant | 22:43 |
| uvos | freemangordon: yeah | 22:43 |
| Wizzup | freemangordon: the bug iirc is: try to connect to ap via dialog, it fails, you click try again, and then it never succeeds until you close dialog and start over | 22:43 |
| uvos | that too | 22:43 |
| uvos | once its failed | 22:43 |
| uvos | you have to close everything or it will never suceee | 22:43 |
| freemangordon | ok, this is the next in the list to check, after I finish hidden wlan support in the dialog (maybe I will be ready today with it) | 22:43 |
| freemangordon | but yeah, I'll definitely look into that | 22:44 |
| uvos | ok | 22:44 |
| freemangordon | most-probable some RE bug | 22:44 |
| uvos | was just checking if this was something that should be fixed allready | 22:44 |
| freemangordon | yeah | 22:45 |
| uvos | also connection to umts data is even more unreliable | 22:45 |
| uvos | i have to make like 10 attempts before it works | 22:45 |
| uvos | but i that may not be related at all | 22:45 |
| freemangordon | lets fix wlan first :) | 22:45 |
| uvos | yeah | 22:46 |
| Wizzup | uvos: connections to umts do not wait for active state to change | 22:46 |
| Wizzup | so it's expected that it will fail right away (and yes I intend to fix it soon) | 22:46 |
| uvos | Wizzup: ok | 22:47 |
| Wizzup | if you set it to active manually from cmdline, you'll see that the ui interaction nmever fails | 22:47 |
| uvos | i think the wlan problem is because the d4 wlan fw sometimes crashes | 22:47 |
| Wizzup | there are some cases where even from cmdline it doesn't work and ofono will get into a bad state wrt the modem | 22:47 |
| Wizzup | it will say the dbus call timed out | 22:47 |
| uvos | wpa_supplicant just tryies again in this case | 22:47 |
| uvos | but icd2 enters this unrecoverable state | 22:47 |
| uvos | (untill dialogs are closed) | 22:47 |
| uvos | Wizzup: ok | 22:48 |
| uvos | Wizzup: good to know that you know | 22:48 |
| Wizzup | uvos: it's a super silly bug | 22:49 |
| freemangordon | yay, it works :) | 22:59 |
| uvos | freemangordon: hmm? | 22:59 |
| Wizzup | freemangordon: hidden ap? yay | 22:59 |
| freemangordon | yes, hidden wlan | 23:00 |
| Wizzup | I got an IP8 bag for bringing a phone in water, would be fun to swim with gps... | 23:21 |
| Wizzup | "IPX 8" | 23:21 |
| freemangordon | Wizzup: could you please upgrade and test if connecting to hidden wlan from the wizard works for you? | 23:26 |
| Wizzup | using easy-wlan? | 23:26 |
| freemangordon | yes | 23:27 |
| Wizzup | ok, momentarily | 23:27 |
| freemangordon | make sure to delete the saved entry first | 23:27 |
| uvos | and yet gpsrecorder has niche means of transport like "zeppelin" "tuk tuk" "donky" "camel" "pony" but not swimming... | 23:28 |
| Wizzup | uvos: requesting a feature | 23:28 |
| uvos | Wizzup: hehe | 23:28 |
| uvos | some of thise are just absurd why do we have "barge" "ship" "boat" "ferry" and "sailing boat", is it really important what kind of boat it was :P | 23:30 |
| uvos | honestly the means of transport list sounds like someones bucketlist | 23:30 |
| freemangordon | Wizzup: hmm, seems I introduced a little bug, lemme fix it first | 23:32 |
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