libera/#maemo-leste/ Monday, 2021-06-21

mighty17[m]nice firefox crashed the device09:59
mighty17[m]still issue about virtual keyboard xD10:00
mighty17[m]and camera crashed while recording vid :(10:02
Wizzupleste camera? ;)11:04
Wizzupmoin11:11
mighty17[m]leste camera? ;)  > once we get ducati running :P11:21
mighty17[m]or open source alt to ducati11:21
bencohwe could probably start with raw camera, but I dunno how it would work with the current TI/media/CSI code11:53
parazydfreemangordon: Updated location-status to show up when GPS is active only.13:40
parazydThis seems enough https://github.com/maemo-leste/location-status/commit/f50afd9b60670a884509266a3657319072c81b3b13:41
siceloLooks good. Thanksa14:18
parazyd:)14:25
Wizzupparazyd: regarding providers, I am not sure if we can easily change connui for it, maybe there could be a follow up dialog14:38
WizzupI will push some example code momentarily14:38
parazydok14:41
parazydI meant depending on where it's saved14:41
parazydIf gconf, there could be an extra state like "saved" or "configured"14:42
WizzupI am not sure where it is saved, if at all14:42
parazydAnd then show it only if it's set up14:42
Wizzupbut that is possible14:42
parazydBut that extra dialog also sounds good14:42
WizzupI think for most of the provider code it is an irrelevant detail anyway14:43
parazyd*nod*14:43
buZzWizzup: did you try routing with modrana on leste ?15:08
buZzby default its trying to use google for it, but fails15:08
buZzit can also do some kinda 'on device' ? but couldnt really figure out what it wants15:09
WizzupI think I saw an open bug report on routing being broken15:10
buZzaw15:16
buZzi see one about google routing being broken15:17
buZzbut the eh , 'monav' routing might work? its OSM based afaik15:17
buZzhmmm https://raw.githubusercontent.com/M4rtinK/monav-data-generator/master/generate.py15:18
buZzthis ; https://wiki.maemo.org/ModRana_offline_routing_guide15:26
buZzoh hey https://data.modrana.org/monav/europe/netherlands/20:50
buZzbit old but i wonder if they work :)20:50
buZzbit sad that there's not really some offline map dl for modrana20:51
sixwheeledbeastyer21:07
sixwheeledbeastYou can dl the monav stuff but not the tiles21:08
sixwheeledbeastbatch downloads often trigger the watchdog too.21:09
sixwheeledbeastIf you use the uncompressed ones you can download them on a desktop then copy them in.21:09
sixwheeledbeastI tried with the sqlite ones and it borked up, I assume due to being different versions of sqlite.21:10
buZzright, but21:11
buZzOSM has vector data, why doesnt it render tiles on-device21:11
sixwheeledbeastit will render tiles is has saved21:12
buZznot render, just display21:13
buZzi ment , -create- tiles without downloading :)21:13
buZzlike how tomtom works21:13
sixwheeledbeastcreate?21:20
uvosmighty17[m]: virtual keyboard works fine in ff if you define shortcut to open it21:21
uvosyou need to get your vol kets working21:21
uvosthey are probubly gpio keys21:21
uvosor maybe on the matrix21:21
uvosyes you dont need ducati at all for the cameras to work21:22
uvosits optional21:22
uvosWizzup: so wifi on d4 is a bunch worse than before in practice21:22
uvosWizzup: of some reason it sucessfully connects a lot less ofen21:23
uvosand if a connection fails you can press yes at the attempt to reconecct thing21:23
buZzsixwheeledbeast: yes, thats what i ment21:23
uvosbut then the connection is just gone from the list21:23
buZzsixwheeledbeast: the data (in pixels) is a falacy to download imho21:23
uvosand you cant do anything about it other than wating for quite some time (wplasupplicant rescan inverall i think) or killing icd21:24
buZzwhen the underlying data is less bytes and allows for metadata like POIs etc21:24
uvosalso if you miss click some other network thats encrypted and then cancle at the password input21:25
uvosyou will end up with a permanently empty list of connections untill you kill icd21:25
uvosor maybe its just empty for a long time like above with the missing connection21:26
uvosbuZz: navit works fine for offline maps and routing21:27
uvosyou have to configure it a bit to get ok ui21:27
uvosand its slow at rendering21:27
uvosbut it works21:27
buZzright, modrana is a loooooovely interface though21:28
uvosalso you need to start gpsd by hand21:28
buZzmaybe OSMs tileserver could just run on droid4 in the background? hmm21:28
uvosbuZz: yeah21:28
buZzfull postgres with OSM mirror? :D21:28
uvosi think finishing the linux port of organic maps is also a really good idea21:29
uvosjust generall21:29
uvosy21:29
uvosit allmost works21:29
uvosand its very nice on android21:29
uvosparazyd: what am i doing wrong wrt !build gpsrecorder beowulf extras22:35
parazydreplied22:49
parazydAnd btw yeah, OsmAnd is amazing22:49
uvosorganic maps != osmand22:49
uvossadly osmand is written directly in android-java with little abstraction22:50
uvosmaking it non portable22:50
uvosi gues there is the apple verison22:51
uvosthat is quite a different code base22:51
uvosidk if you could port that22:51
parazydThat's probably still Swift22:56
uvosanyhow i build organic maps on my desctop pc and it sorta works (very buggy)22:58
uvosand it works ok (a bit slow) on d4 on linageos22:58
uvosso i think it has a real chance22:59
siceloone thing i noticed on leste (droid 4) is that sometimes the mouse cursor appears, especially when the device has been idling. it disappears in a bit though23:01
uvostop left corner?23:01
siceloi think last time was bottom left23:01
uvosok23:02
bencohI noticed it a long ago near the bottom, but that was after typing "reboot", and I guess hildon-desktop (the wm) got killed23:02
uvosit generally happens when the cursor is slightly off screen23:02
uvosso pointing away from the hildon window23:02
bencohs/a long ago/not long ago/23:02
uvosno idea how it ends up off screen tho23:02
bencohhmm, looks like appmanager doesn't properly handle network disconnections23:03
sicelobencoh: yes, i also see it when i reboot that way (which is most of the time)23:03
uvosbencoh: yeah typing reboot makes it appear23:03
uvosbut thats expected23:04
uvosas soon as hildon terminates it should appear23:04
bencohit's stuck in the connecting animation (animation still working), and "Stop" doesn't do anything23:04
bencohoh btw, I turned my droid4 ~40mn ago to play a bit with it and upgrade my leste, and honestly it's great work :)23:04
uvosyeah connui is very buggy atm23:05
uvosthats a known bug23:05
bencohthe vkbd appearing when pressing the "search" touchbutton, even with non-gtk (ie, non-osso xterm) is a lovely feature :)23:07
bencohand it's super handy (at least until I finally remap my keyboard)23:08
uvosthanks :)23:08
uvosnote that writing non us chars with that currently only sorta works23:08
uvos(the chars all need to be in the current xcb keyboard map somewhere)23:09
bencohoh, you're right ... I just tried a non-latin language, and while it does showup in the vkbd textbox, it doesn't appear in (non-osso) xterm23:10
uvosyeah23:10
uvosyou have to setxkbmap to that language too23:10
uvosbut then the hwkbd wont work right23:10
uvosits a nasty x11 limitation23:10
bencoh:(23:11
bencohactually hwkbd might work in said language23:11
uvossure but they keycaps will be all wrong23:11
bencohstill good for touchtyping23:12
bencohhwkbd actually does work in foreign language, let's try with vkbd23:13
bencohhmm, sorry, noluck23:13
uvosneeds devel i think23:13
bencohoh, nevermind23:13
uvosshould work23:13
bencohit did work if using "return"23:13
uvosshould work with out return too23:14
bencohor not23:14
uvos(i wrote all of this btw)23:14
bencohI mistook what I typed using hwkbd for vkbd output23:14
bencohmybad23:14
uvosoh23:14
bencohso it doesn't :(23:14
uvoswhat language are we talking23:14
uvoslet me repo23:14
bencohI just tried hebrew23:14
uvoswhats your xsetkeymap?23:14
bencohil23:15
uvosil is a hebrew map?23:15
bencohapparently23:15
bencohthe things that appear at the screen with hwkbd definitely look like hebrew :)23:15
uvosheh ok23:16
uvosthey might be different unicode chars23:16
bencohhmm, sounds strange, but could be23:16
uvosso what vkb map did you use?23:16
bencohhebrew as well23:17
uvosi dont seem to have a hebrew one installed23:17
bencohhmm, you probably do, but the name isn't displayed in latin characters23:18
bencoh(I might be wrong, but I don't remember installing it manually)23:18
uvosi dont have any vkb map installed that is not in latin23:18
uvosor cryllic23:18
bencohoh?23:18
uvosoh nvm23:19
uvosi was in the hwkbd maps23:19
bencoh:)23:19
uvoshmm yeah dosent work23:21
uvoswith hebrew and "il"23:21
uvosbut it wokrks fine with russian and armenian (which is what i was testing during development)23:21
bencohinteresting23:22
uvosill try to check it out later (hebrew)23:22
bencohthx :)23:22
bencohhmm, I wonder what anbox is trying to do (first run)23:25
bencohgatekeeperd uses 80%cpu, and main/debuggerd take another 75%23:26

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