| freemangordon | parazyd: please LMK when you have decided about glib | 07:58 |
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| Wizzup | parazyd: I think I fixed all the module inserting and deleting problems https://github.com/maemo-leste/maemo-system-services/commit/cfd708a23fce72cf75e80ad1bf1a822606c2d2cb | 14:05 |
| Wizzup | please test | 14:05 |
| Wizzup | and if it works, let's bump the tor/wg/ovpn libicd's | 14:05 |
| Wizzup | the new script will also fix up bad entries generated by the previous script :^) | 14:06 |
| Wizzup | it will also default to the schema default if it's empty for some reason | 14:06 |
| Wizzup | parazyd: the one thing I think we might want to add to the icd2-manage-modules script is a 'preference' for modules, like, we probably typically want wireguard/openvpn *before* tor | 14:11 |
| Wizzup | since it works on another layer | 14:11 |
| Wizzup | lmk what you think | 14:11 |
| parazyd | freemangordon: No valid objections really. | 14:40 |
| parazyd | Wizzup, uvos: What do you think about forking glib? | 14:40 |
| parazyd | Wizzup: Will check dh in a sec | 14:40 |
| parazyd | Wizzup: Is that preference supposed to be something in the UI? | 14:41 |
| parazyd | Because with gconf-editor for example you can edit lists by hand and move things up/down | 14:41 |
| uvos | parazyd: i hate it, but i dont see what alternative there is | 14:46 |
| parazyd | Well, one alternative is walking recursively over /usr/share/applications and finding the .desktop file | 14:46 |
| parazyd | But I bet freemangordon doesn't want to do that | 14:47 |
| uvos | i dont think thats great either | 14:47 |
| uvos | the only alternative might be to look how gnome manages to work | 14:47 |
| uvos | they might be using glib differently avoiding the problem | 14:48 |
| Wizzup | parazyd: no, the preference is not in the ui, it's just about the order in which icd2 runs through the ip_up_* | 14:49 |
| Wizzup | uvos: I think forking glib is ok if we also get them to accept the patch | 14:49 |
| uvos | Wizzup: yeah then its fine | 14:49 |
| uvos | glib is pretty stable too | 14:49 |
| uvos | maybe we can even use upstream then | 14:50 |
| uvos | oh btw just floating an idea here since deskop gtk2 applications dont realy work well at all with hildonized gtk2 and are mostly unusable | 14:50 |
| uvos | maybe we should rename our gtk2 fork htk and have hildonized applicaitons link against that | 14:51 |
| Wizzup | htk, heh | 14:51 |
| Wizzup | Are you sure gtk2 apps don't work well? I thought they work some what ok | 14:51 |
| Wizzup | what are you problems you see | 14:51 |
| Wizzup | I kind of see it as a feature for some of them at least | 14:51 |
| uvos | lots of elements tend to idssapear | 14:51 |
| Wizzup | apart from menus? | 14:52 |
| uvos | i mean menus are pretty critical :P | 14:52 |
| uvos | but toolbars also seam to go missing sometimes | 14:52 |
| uvos | also the layout breaks due to element sizes | 14:52 |
| uvos | you could always LD_PRELOAD htk for apps that work ok | 14:52 |
| Wizzup | I meant apart from menu bars sometimes being rendered off-screen | 14:53 |
| Wizzup | or rather the menu windows | 14:53 |
| Wizzup | idk, for the most part I like that they are at least in style | 14:53 |
| parazyd | freemangordon: Is this helpful? https://github.com/GNOME/glib/blob/main/gio/gdesktopappinfo.c | 14:55 |
| uvos | ah it works by just hardcoding the gnome extension | 14:57 |
| uvos | s | 14:57 |
| uvos | X-GNOME-FullName for instance | 14:57 |
| uvos | no that dosent help him at all | 14:57 |
| uvos | and now i know why gnome works | 14:58 |
| * Wizzup finally set up sieve with dovecot so that he can do server side filtering | 16:41 | |
| Wizzup | needed that for modest not to buzz every 5 mins | 16:41 |
| Wizzup | freemangordon: hm, modest doesn't seem to see the same inbox as thunderbird does for some reason | 17:48 |
| Wizzup | does it include subdirs in a dir info? | 17:48 |
| Wizzup | freemangordon: it also just seems to see emails that my thunderbird and alpine (mail client) do not see | 17:52 |
| uvos | it alos dosent buzz for me or show notifications | 17:57 |
| Wizzup | it does both of those things for me | 17:57 |
| uvos | its set to sync every 30 minutes | 17:57 |
| uvos | if i open it it dose show the emails just fine | 17:57 |
| uvos | but no notification | 17:57 |
| Wizzup | what tech is it set to sync on? | 17:57 |
| Wizzup | wifi or any? | 17:57 |
| uvos | (its also set to notify in settings) | 17:57 |
| uvos | any | 17:57 |
| Wizzup | looks like my connui-cellular is way to verbose and makes large logs | 17:58 |
| Wizzup | root@maindroid:/var/log# ls -lsh user.log* | 17:58 |
| Wizzup | 120M -rw-r----- 1 root adm 120M Oct 2 17:56 user.log 54M -rw-r----- 1 root adm 54M Sep 25 23:46 user.log.1 | 17:58 |
| uvos | "last updated" also shows a time | 17:58 |
| uvos | that would require it to buzz | 17:58 |
| Wizzup | I'm mostly wondering my what my 1164 new messages are -- I don't see them in my thunderbird | 17:58 |
| Wizzup | I see about 120 :) | 17:58 |
| sicelo | or they're new from modest POV? :-) | 18:00 |
| freemangordon | parazyd: hmm, you linked the top of the file | 18:00 |
| Wizzup | sicelo: new means unread in my book | 18:00 |
| Wizzup | sicelo: and it seems to stop at 2021-05-xx | 18:00 |
| Wizzup | i.e. I can't see any news emails | 18:00 |
| parazyd | freemangordon: nvm, uvos said it's irrelevant | 18:00 |
| Wizzup | it looks like the sync didn't complete | 18:00 |
| Wizzup | but I can't get it to sync further | 18:00 |
| freemangordon | parazyd: ok, do you know what repo shall I fork? | 18:02 |
| sicelo | at least mutt has "N" for new unread, and "O" for old unread mails. So yeah, it's possible that "new" might not necessarily mean unread in modest. then again, i mostly use mutt even in fremantle, so i don't fully remember the behavior there | 18:03 |
| Wizzup | sicelo: I cannot find recent emails in modest, they are not there it seems | 18:03 |
| Wizzup | sicelo: and it says my inbox has about 23k mails, but it has 166 total | 18:04 |
| parazyd | freemangordon: I would think this: https://salsa.debian.org/gnome-team/glib/-/tree/debian/buster | 18:04 |
| freemangordon | Wizzup: is that pop3? | 18:04 |
| freemangordon | or gmail? | 18:04 |
| Wizzup | freemangordon: imap | 18:04 |
| Wizzup | my own server | 18:04 |
| uvos | also on imap here | 18:04 |
| freemangordon | well, gmail imap works for me ok | 18:04 |
| uvos | works ok (besides notifications) | 18:05 |
| sicelo | you most likely do have those 23k mails after all :-p | 18:05 |
| freemangordon | Wizzup: you may want to start modest from the command line, to see if it gives errors | 18:05 |
| Wizzup | ok | 18:06 |
| uvos | it also scroles excruitatingly slow but thats not its fault, it just hits the eax problem really badly | 18:06 |
| uvos | *exa | 18:06 |
| Wizzup | yes, this is just X | 18:06 |
| uvos | yeah | 18:06 |
| Wizzup | yeah also incoming mail I cannot get to show up | 18:09 |
| Wizzup | freemangordon: is there a way to remove cache and such? | 18:09 |
| Wizzup | it could also be some imap config that's weird | 18:09 |
| freemangordon | just remove the account I would guess | 18:09 |
| Wizzup | I tried that and the result is the same, so maybe that didn't help then | 18:10 |
| freemangordon | ~/.modest/cache | 18:11 |
| lel | freemangordon created a repository: https://github.com/maemo-leste-upstream-forks/glib | 18:13 |
| Wizzup | I think I am maybe looking at some trash or something | 18:15 |
| Wizzup | hm. | 18:15 |
| Wizzup | aaaah | 18:16 |
| uvos | suddenly Wizzup realizes he has 22k unread emails from 2009 | 18:16 |
| uvos | "oh that must be why i havend seen my wife in a while" | 18:16 |
| Wizzup | I was logging into my old email server, I used imap. not mail. | 18:17 |
| uvos | heh | 18:17 |
| Wizzup | same pw though I guess :) | 18:17 |
| Wizzup | yes, all solved | 18:19 |
| uvos | btw did you get call audio to work? | 18:19 |
| Wizzup | no, I didn't try since I asked | 18:19 |
| freemangordon | parazyd: how shall I tag that? debian/2.58.3-2+deb10u3+leste1? | 18:27 |
| freemangordon | or 2.58.3-2+deb10u3+leste1? | 18:28 |
| freemangordon | or leave that to you? | 18:28 |
| freemangordon | there is already gbp.conf I am not sure fits our CI | 18:28 |
| parazyd | If changelog is "2.58.3-2+deb10u3+leste1" then tag is "2.58.3+deb10u3+leste1" I think | 18:30 |
| parazyd | Provided our standard gbp.conf is used | 18:31 |
| freemangordon | so, I shall replace gbp.conf too, right? | 18:31 |
| freemangordon | https://github.com/maemo-leste-upstream-forks/glib/blob/maemo/beowulf-devel/debian/gbp.conf | 18:32 |
| freemangordon | yeah, I will replace it | 18:32 |
| Wizzup | ues | 18:32 |
| Wizzup | yes* | 18:33 |
| freemangordon | :nod: | 18:34 |
| uvos | can i have commit access to https://github.com/maemo-leste-upstream-forks/iio-sensor-proxy? | 22:29 |
| Wizzup | you have 'writer' role | 22:29 |
| Wizzup | it should work already | 22:30 |
| Wizzup | what is not working? | 22:30 |
| uvos | oh righ | 22:30 |
| uvos | t | 22:30 |
| uvos | nothing i just forgot | 22:30 |
| Wizzup | :) | 22:30 |
| sicelo | btw why is iio-sensor-proxy forked? | 22:41 |
| uvos | its not really forked its just upstream debian builds only with systemd support devuan dosent build at all | 22:42 |
| uvos | and upstream also blocks the compass to the geoclue user | 22:42 |
| uvos | but thats just config file differences | 22:43 |
| sicelo | ok | 22:44 |
| uvos | but we should proubuly move from having it in a repo | 22:45 |
| uvos | to just maintaing the debian directory seperatly | 22:45 |
| uvos | but idk how to set that up | 22:45 |
| uvos | so parazyd ^^^ paybe | 22:45 |
| uvos | maybe you can enlighten us | 22:45 |
| parazyd | Could probably ask for it to be built in Devuan | 22:49 |
| Wizzup | I think having it forked right now is not such a bad thing | 22:49 |
| Wizzup | didn't you also have some evdev stuff in there? | 22:49 |
| uvos | Wizzup: no | 22:50 |
| uvos | Wizzup: we (I) decided not to add it | 22:50 |
| uvos | we have zero code changes | 22:50 |
| uvos | only build system changes | 22:50 |
| lel | MerlijnWajer created a repository: https://github.com/maemo-leste/conversations | 23:08 |
| Wizzup | uvos: ok | 23:08 |
| uvos | parazyd: regardin adding it to devuan, the current version cant be build on beowulf because of old udev | 23:12 |
| uvos | so backporting it wont work | 23:12 |
| parazyd | ah | 23:15 |
| parazyd | Well that's another reason for the fork | 23:15 |
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