libera/#maemo-leste/ Wednesday, 2021-10-06

Wizzupfreemangordon: is it possible to configure where the sent emails go in modest?02:31
WizzupI might try to add that02:31
Wizzup(they go into a different dir than thunderbirds)02:32
uvosso mce update is comeing down the pipe that: adds the new dbus interfaces (ofc untill you unload the rtconf-gconf module in favor or rtconf-ini or -gsettings the gconf interfaces will remain and both update the other)11:17
uvosand the way als works has changed11:18
uvosso since iio-sensor-proxy only brodcasts changes instead of x samples per second (and thats all it can do since it wants to save a bounch of power by using hw triggering where available) there was no way to really filter it.11:19
uvosso i now implemented the method android used to use =<2.3: the display is only allowed to increase in brightness while it is on, and can only return to a lower brightness though a display off -> display on cycle11:21
uvosthis elemitates the flicker effect from changing brightness levels whilest in a train or whatever11:22
uvosif you dont like the way this works you can add NoAlsLowering=0 to the [DisplayBrightness] in your 99-user.ini11:22
uvosto get the old behavior11:22
uvosparazyd: please review https://github.com/maemo-leste/leste-config/pull/2511:38
Wizzupthe flickering effect we have in brightness is related to a gconf bug, no?11:39
Wizzups/gconf/gtk/11:39
uvosWizzup: no11:39
uvosWizzup: the flikering effect with the brightess adjusting slider is a gtk2 bug11:40
uvosbut i mean the fact that the display will flicker back and fourth between brightess values quickly when als changes alot11:40
uvosaslo this change dosent change the way the slider works ofc11:41
uvosit can still lower the brightness11:41
uvosals cant lower the brightness while the display is on11:41
WizzupI see11:46
Wizzupmakes sense11:46
uvosparazyd: while reviewing https://github.com/maemo-leste/leste-config/pull/25 please also decide if pp also needs battery-guard11:49
uvosWizzup: oh btw12:00
uvosany idea what the powersaveing thing in the display control pannel applet is supposed to do?12:01
uvosit sets a gconf key in /system/osso/dsm/display/ that mce has never actually read12:02
Wizzupwhat key is that12:02
uvos /system/osso/dsm/display/enable_power_saving12:02
Wizzupgrep doesn't find anything in my local repos12:09
uvosok ill just comment out the button for now with a TODO: where should this go12:10
Wizzuphmmm12:11
Wizzuphttps://git.sailfishos.org/lpotter/mce/blob/d29be0ee51d5b4fd939a8946b5da626987dca16a/modules/powersavemode.h#L3512:11
uvosinteresting12:11
uvosno its unrelated12:15
uvoslooks enable_power_saving is supposed to change how cabc works12:16
uvosill coment it out with a TODO and link the commit to https://github.com/maemo-leste/mce/issues/2712:18
uvosiirc the problem with this was the lack of hw with wokrking kernel api to test it with12:21
siceloWizzup: tmlind: i see some omap_hsmmc commits referencing wl1251. just wondering if N900 will not be affected in one way or another13:29
Wizzupwe passed the ngi dapsi evaluation and proceed to the second round (funding)13:55
Wizzupplan is to see if we can find people that can help with the telepathy and conversations stuff, also gtk3/qt513:55
MartijnBraam[m]\o/14:07
MartijnBraam[m]pmos passed too, fun feedback14:07
Wizzupyay :)14:21
sicelothose are great news for both projects :-)14:40
siceloam i allowed to ask what the pmos project is about, MartijnBraam[m] ? or it's the OS as a whole?14:42
MartijnBraam[m]the OS as a whole, we got the funding to do general maintenance14:42
sicelocool14:44
parazydMartijnBraam[m]: Congrats!14:50
parazyduvos: ACK, will review later today14:50
MartijnBraam[m]the leste grant was specifically for the vpn stuff?14:50
parazydFirst part. Second part is Telepathy and protocols (Signal, Jami, Matrix, XMPP)14:51
MartijnBraam[m]oh neato14:52
Wizzupthat and conversations/sms/chat ui14:53
MartijnBraam[m]I thought xmpp already worked in the old maemo?14:55
uvosold maemo is closed soruce14:57
uvosparazyd: thanks :)14:58
MartijnBraam[m]right, ofcourse14:58
bencohxmpp on fremantle (specifically in rtcom) isn't that great btw15:20
MartijnBraam[m]the only xmpp i've used on maemo was the gchat support, worked fine at the time15:21
bencohintegration is great, but a few things made it kinda quirky, compared to pidgin15:21
bencohiirc the way it handles channels (ie leaving channel when closing the window, afair) made it quite non-practical for instance15:21
bencoh(at least that's what I remember)15:22
Wizzupthat should be quite easily solveable15:22
bencohyeah15:22
Wizzup(were it not for the fact that it's not foss)15:22
Wizzupbut _we_ can fix that15:22
bencohwell, not on fremantle, since it's closed-source15:22
bencohbut yeah15:22
bencohexactly :)15:22
bencohI find it interesting that they'd sponsor vpn-related work first, and that communication would come second only15:23
Wizzupthat is how we laid it out15:24
bencohah, alright15:24
Wizzupwe and that for with good reasons, first is that osso-abook was nowhere near done at that time15:24
Wizzupsecond is that the tor/wg is neat, and the call was aimed at privacy/security15:25
bencohit sure is neat :)15:25
Wizzupand it was not really dependent on other parts being finished15:25
WizzupI mean also a good fit for the call15:25
MartijnBraam[m]wg is brilliant15:25
bencohwhich reminds me ... is wg part of devuan-stable?15:26
bencoh(I thought it only landed in latest debian)15:26
Wizzupit is definitely in backports, I need to check (and update instructions potentially)15:26
bencohah, backports15:26
bencohalright :)15:26
Wizzupyeah... good point15:26
bencohwe'd probably need to import it in leste's repos then15:27
bencohin some way or another15:27
bencohat least for the beowulf dist15:27
Wizzupbencoh: yeah15:29
freemangordongreat!15:32
dgamer69hello everyone, I am back16:28
dgamer69and still compiling16:28
dgamer69finished compiling16:34
tmlindsicelo: i think n900 has wl1251 on spi so not affected by mmc changes16:35
siceloah great then. indeed.16:46
dgamer69golly gee whiz16:47
dgamer69the 3d acceloration thingy didn't work16:47
dgamer69*acceleration16:48
freemangordoninstall virtualbox17:00
dgamer69I can't17:08
siceloor be patient ... i was running leste vm without accel too, on 4th gen i5. at leat *I* still found it usable17:15
siceloymmv17:15
Wizzupthe sigmakey is just a random smartcard reader with sim card19:57
Wizzuplol19:57
Wizzupok19:57
uvosnot uncommon in hardware drm devices20:05
Wizzupyeah but it just kinda sticks out :P20:06
Wizzupnice to have a generic smartcard reader at least20:06
parazyduvos: The leste-config changes look good. I can test the battery guard on the Pinephone in the coming days. Is it enough to enable it like this in mce or I need some more things?20:14
uvosparazyd: no adding the module to mce and speifcing a voltage is enough20:15
uvosparazyd: really its about how the pp behaves20:15
uvosparazyd: ie when dose the kernel perfom a low voltage shutdown, and what voltage results on the battery20:16
uvosand what voltage if any is required to perform lower end callibration20:16
uvosconfiguration should be based on these things20:16
uvosbtw parazyd20:19
parazydok20:19
uvosyou mentiond at some point that brightness on the pp was non linear20:20
uvosand als dident work so well because of this20:20
parazydhmm I don't exactly remember20:20
uvosi dehardcoded the brightness values see https://github.com/maemo-leste/mce/blob/abc429bef65971274d3fea45cc73ced4d617757e/config/mce.ini#L32120:20
parazydI know it works though20:20
parazydBrightness control, that is20:20
uvosif the pp reacts poorly  please also ajust these values to taste20:20
uvos(as the defaults are mapphone optimized)20:21
parazydWill do20:21
parazydThanks for the reminder20:21
uvoswho is halftux?23:34
siceloa great dev from maemo days. iirc a lot of his applications were qt. he's also member of the maemo community ev. he was in this chan a while ago (maybe we lost him during libera move ... can't remember now)23:45
uvoshe is maintainer of the mihphoto leste pacakge but currently not reponsive in this role.23:48
uvosso was wondering how to contact him23:49
sixwheeledbeasthttps://talk.maemo.org/member.php?u=5952723:49
sicelothere should also be an email in the commits. i have his other email around somewhere, but what does "not responsive" mean? :-/23:50
uvosdosent react to an open pr, dosent react to an email23:51
uvoswith a month ish lead time23:51

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