| lel | rafael2k opened a pull request: https://github.com/maemo-leste/pine64-kernel/pull/4 (Maemo/beowulf devel) | 00:32 |
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| lel | rafael2k edited a pull request: https://github.com/maemo-leste/pine64-kernel/pull/4 ( Rebased to 5.15.48, plus latest Pine64 patches.) | 00:32 |
| Guest6 | hello is it possible to connect to ethernet from virtual image | 01:35 |
| missMyN900 | norayr: I have been reading more about Oberon again lately. Modula-2 interests me too though. Apparently the GNU Modula-2 will become part of GCC soon, which is pretty exciting. Years ago I was very into Wirthian languages, although I never did much actual coding in them. | 06:39 |
| missMyN900 | aside from that OT stuff, I am more and more disappointed by the PP. Read about more hardware issues with the PP. I am actually thinking of selling my PP now that it still is worth something. | 06:43 |
| missMyN900 | I could get a USB LTE modem instead and a Droid Bionic | 06:43 |
| missMyN900 | I honestly wish I would have just gotten a ThinkPenguin USB LTE modem at the time and not rushed into buying a PP which turned out to be useless for LTE anyway when it arrived | 06:44 |
| Daanct12 | missMyN900, curious, what happened to your n900? | 06:44 |
| missMyN900 | sold it for way too little money because I thought it was slowing our WiFi network due to being 11g only | 06:44 |
| missMyN900 | yes, I was an idiot | 06:44 |
| missMyN900 | I will forever regret that | 06:45 |
| missMyN900 | back in 2015 | 06:45 |
| missMyN900 | or so | 06:45 |
| Daanct12 | ouch | 06:45 |
| Daanct12 | that sucks, sorry for your loss :/ | 06:45 |
| missMyN900 | it was actually fully functioning except for one sensor | 06:45 |
| missMyN900 | and it had one ding and a scratch | 06:45 |
| missMyN900 | never had any USB port issues; I only learned about those years later | 06:46 |
| missMyN900 | at least someone got really lucky I guess | 06:46 |
| Daanct12 | the one that i just bought old didn't had that issue either | 06:46 |
| Daanct12 | so i guess that was cool | 06:46 |
| missMyN900 | I was lucky myself too when I got it for only $100 in mint condition so I guess I can't complain really | 06:46 |
| missMyN900 | how much did you pay for yours | 06:47 |
| Daanct12 | eh, ~20 bucks | 06:47 |
| missMyN900 | when did you buy it cause I have a suspicion... | 06:47 |
| Daanct12 | just two years ago, it was old | 06:48 |
| missMyN900 | oh nvm | 06:48 |
| Daanct12 | it's not really mint as it's well used | 06:48 |
| Daanct12 | but everything still works great | 06:48 |
| missMyN900 | does the camera app ever open randomly? | 06:48 |
| Daanct12 | nope | 06:48 |
| missMyN900 | it can't be mine then | 06:48 |
| missMyN900 | unless you never reflashed the OS | 06:49 |
| missMyN900 | I broke the sensor that detects when the camera cover is opened by dropping it | 06:49 |
| Daanct12 | i actually did reflash the OS once i got it home so i can get rid of the data | 06:49 |
| missMyN900 | I modified a kernel module to disable it | 06:49 |
| Daanct12 | it still has the contacts | 06:49 |
| Daanct12 | i see | 06:50 |
| Daanct12 | well i didn't have the issue, mine only opens when i slide out the camera cover | 06:50 |
| missMyN900 | but yeah, I might actually get a Droid Bionic since they are cheap here in the US | 06:51 |
| Daanct12 | i think these are US exclusive too | 06:52 |
| Daanct12 | verizon* | 06:52 |
| missMyN900 | yes | 06:52 |
| missMyN900 | but Wizzup has become the European dealer of Droid 4s ;) | 06:52 |
| Daanct12 | hehe | 06:52 |
| missMyN900 | I think he has some DBs too | 06:52 |
| Daanct12 | i'd like to buy from him a droid 4, that'd be nice to own | 06:52 |
| missMyN900 | he has like 10 | 06:53 |
| missMyN900 | there aren't even that many on eBay in the US currently | 06:53 |
| missMyN900 | much less, in fact | 06:53 |
| missMyN900 | the battery life of the DB is very appealing | 06:54 |
| missMyN900 | PP battery life is absolutely terrible | 06:54 |
| missMyN900 | even on latest pmOS+Plasma | 06:54 |
| Daanct12 | that's typical for the pinephone, that thing runs absolutely hot | 06:54 |
| missMyN900 | supposedly Phosh has much better battery life | 06:54 |
| Daanct12 | it's a good hand warmer in the winter, but not now | 06:54 |
| missMyN900 | I find it almost hard to believe though given how appalling it is | 06:54 |
| missMyN900 | if I buy the TP LTE modem and the Droid Bionic I may still have money left to spare after selling the PP | 06:55 |
| missMyN900 | I just hate losing on selling a phone, again | 06:56 |
| missMyN900 | I swore that would never happen to me again | 06:56 |
| missMyN900 | after I lost a ton on my Jolla and BB Classic | 06:56 |
| missMyN900 | but yeah, losing even more money due to it failing or getting damaged is even less appealing | 06:58 |
| missMyN900 | and the PP is quite easy to drop and I often forget to put it back into its case since I can't charge it in its case | 06:59 |
| missMyN900 | a smaller and chunkier phone such as the DB is much easier to avoid dropping | 06:59 |
| Daanct12 | i think the charging issue can be fixed by reseating the charge port? | 07:00 |
| missMyN900 | I am not an expert on that at all | 07:00 |
| Daanct12 | not sure | 07:00 |
| missMyN900 | better to visit TMO for that :) | 07:00 |
| missMyN900 | I don't worry about dropping my Z10 at all, for example | 07:00 |
| missMyN900 | Daanct12: have you ever owned a BB10 device? | 07:03 |
| Daanct12 | no | 07:03 |
| missMyN900 | you should try one | 07:04 |
| Daanct12 | i'm actually more interested in devices that runs linux | 07:04 |
| missMyN900 | on one hand the experience will never be the same as it was back then since the app store is closed | 07:04 |
| missMyN900 | on the other hand you can get one for $20, at least in the US | 07:04 |
| missMyN900 | I bought my Z10 for about $20 | 07:04 |
| missMyN900 | in 2020 | 07:04 |
| missMyN900 | use it as an MP3 player | 07:04 |
| missMyN900 | much cheaper than a Fiio or especially Astell&Kern ;) | 07:05 |
| missMyN900 | Daanct12: I like devices that run Linux/BSD too but I can also appreciate BB10 OS | 07:05 |
| missMyN900 | it is somewhat similar to the Sailfish OS UI | 07:06 |
| missMyN900 | very smooth, also uses Qt | 07:06 |
| missMyN900 | and QNX is very cool | 07:06 |
| missMyN900 | it is more advanced than Linux design wise | 07:06 |
| missMyN900 | I think BB10 OS and SFOS were both inspired by the MeeGo Harmattan/N9 UI | 07:08 |
| missMyN900 | Z10 is also a pretty unique device. The first touch screen-only BlackBerry. Made in Mexico. And it has a play/pause button between the volume keys which is awesome. | 07:10 |
| missMyN900 | mine is a Canadian one, ex-Rogers I believe | 07:11 |
| missMyN900 | I also partially got it because of nostalgia. I sold my Jolla to buy a BB Classic because I missed the hardware keyboard of my N900 too much | 07:12 |
| missMyN900 | anyway, I saw that there is a recent image for the DB so that is encouraging | 07:14 |
| missMyN900 | there would be one less PP user/tester but on the other hand one more DB user/tester :) | 07:15 |
| missMyN900 | at least I was able to extensively test ML on the PP in the time that I have had it | 07:16 |
| missMyN900 | it is a shame that I would probably not be able to run pmOS on the DB but I don't have much love for Plasma (and especially Phosh) so that is hardly a dealbreaker for me | 07:17 |
| sicelo | You can run pmos on it if you port it ... not difficult since kernel work has already been done for you | 07:18 |
| missMyN900 | yeah, I was thinking about that | 07:18 |
| missMyN900 | I don't like the idea of running Plasma on a dual Cortex A9 with 1 GB RAM much though... | 07:19 |
| missMyN900 | and the DB does not exactly have a large screen so running a desktop UI would not be great either | 07:19 |
| missMyN900 | speaking of new devices though | 07:20 |
| missMyN900 | I was gifted some random 9" Atom-powered W10 tablet recently | 07:20 |
| missMyN900 | I could try to run ML on it if it is not too much work | 07:21 |
| missMyN900 | otherwise I might build a pmOS image for it | 07:21 |
| sicelo | I ran plasma on droid once, although i couldn't get past lock screen | 07:21 |
| missMyN900 | LOL | 07:21 |
| sicelo | Droid4 * | 07:21 |
| missMyN900 | well, I prefer Hildon anyway | 07:21 |
| missMyN900 | I would say you are not missing much TBH | 07:22 |
| missMyN900 | the new linux mobile UIs are very disappointing | 07:22 |
| missMyN900 | having used Fremantle, Sailfish and BB10 OS | 07:22 |
| missMyN900 | (and various versions of Android and iOS) | 07:22 |
| missMyN900 | Nemo Mobile is interesting though | 07:23 |
| missMyN900 | it is moving at a glacial pace (pun intended), however | 07:23 |
| sicelo | I think they're good, at least phosh, which i follow | 07:23 |
| missMyN900 | I guess we have very different preferences | 07:23 |
| missMyN900 | I think SFOS and BB10 OS (and Harmattan although I never personally use it) had vastly superior UIs | 07:24 |
| sicelo | And i think phosh is modern hildon | 07:25 |
| missMyN900 | yes, I believe you have said that before ;) | 07:27 |
| missMyN900 | I just hope this Atom tablet is not locked down too badly | 07:28 |
| missMyN900 | at least it is x86 | 07:28 |
| missMyN900 | but I know that with Windows 8 there were some really locked down tablets | 07:28 |
| missMyN900 | sicelo: is there an ML image for x86? | 07:30 |
| missMyN900 | is x86 even supported? | 07:30 |
| missMyN900 | I think Hildon on 9" would be brilliant | 07:31 |
| missMyN900 | but otherwise I will have to go with pmOS and MATE | 07:31 |
| sicelo | There isn't (image). But you can probably ask Wizzup to build one for you, or build for yourself even | 07:32 |
| missMyN900 | at least I wouldn't have to cross compile ;) | 07:33 |
| missMyN900 | I remember there was some special environment for Fremantle | 07:33 |
| missMyN900 | I think I used it when I built a kernel module for my N900 | 07:34 |
| missMyN900 | sicelo: so x86 is supported by the ML repos? It is just that a current image has not been built? | 07:34 |
| missMyN900 | based on my current knowledge I think it is this one: https://ematic.us/product/ematic-8-9-32gb-tablet-windows-10-ewt935dk/ | 07:52 |
| missMyN900 | I will have to double-check though | 07:52 |
| missMyN900 | https://www.reddit.com/r/linux_devices/comments/7jv3ep/replace_windows_10_on_ematic_tablet/ | 07:53 |
| missMyN900 | yikes 32-bit UEFI | 07:53 |
| missMyN900 | it apparently has 1 GB RAM LOL | 07:54 |
| missMyN900 | that's half the RAM of even my Z10 | 07:54 |
| missMyN900 | I guess it could be a good device to run Netsurf on... | 07:55 |
| missMyN900 | "Debian Jessie (8.0) was the first Linux distribution to include full support for mixed-mode UEFI installation on these machines. The multi-arch installation media (available in netinst form) include the UEFI boot loaders necessary for both i386 and amd64 boot" | 07:57 |
| missMyN900 | guess it would be difficult to run AMD64 pmOS on it and it would definitely require a custom ML image | 07:59 |
| missMyN900 | on the other hand that image should work for every old Atom tablet out there so that is a lot of (probably cheap) devices so could be worth the effort | 08:00 |
| missMyN900 | as long as they are not locked down of course | 08:00 |
| missMyN900 | but that should be relatively easy to research | 08:01 |
| missMyN900 | https://github.com/5bentz/linux-asus-t100/blob/master/T100TA_guide.md | 08:06 |
| missMyN900 | https://www.ebay.com/itm/384929869343?hash=item599f9bae1f:g:blwAAOSwqRZieXop | 08:07 |
| missMyN900 | wow these are really cheap | 08:07 |
| missMyN900 | and apparently the touch screen works on Linux | 08:07 |
| missMyN900 | along with pretty much everything else | 08:07 |
| missMyN900 | this is cheaper than a Pinetab | 08:07 |
| missMyN900 | and better specs (and probably build quality) | 08:07 |
| missMyN900 | could be great ML dev devices | 08:08 |
| missMyN900 | but yeah my free no-name tablet could be a good testbed for this | 08:09 |
| missMyN900 | if it works well, then something nicer such as the ASUS T100TA could be a great dev device | 08:10 |
| missMyN900 | T100TA has twice the RAM and twice the storage | 08:10 |
| missMyN900 | and a nice metal case and slightly higher res screen | 08:11 |
| missMyN900 | it could be the ultimate 10" ML dev device | 08:11 |
| missMyN900 | it should be a lot easier to find (and more powerful) than a TurboX Twister at least | 08:14 |
| uvos | missMyN900: bionics are not carrier locked to version | 08:38 |
| uvos | as far as we know there is no sutch thing as a locked bionic | 08:38 |
| uvos | they only disabled gsm/umts bands in the modem, but this can be trivially enabled again | 08:39 |
| missMyN900 | uvos: thanks but I was actually referring to an Atom tablet that I received recently | 08:40 |
| uvos | ah ok | 08:41 |
| uvos | btw we do have a x86 image | 08:41 |
| missMyN900 | for the DB I don't really care about cellular | 08:41 |
| uvos | the vm one | 08:41 |
| missMyN900 | since it won't work on LTE | 08:41 |
| missMyN900 | ah | 08:41 |
| uvos | also on x86 the reccomended way to install | 08:41 |
| missMyN900 | 32-bit UEFI will be an issue though | 08:41 |
| uvos | is to instal devuan | 08:42 |
| uvos | and then add our repos and install hildon-meta | 08:42 |
| missMyN900 | well, I have experience with that | 08:42 |
| uvos | lte on db is a good question | 08:42 |
| missMyN900 | it won't do VoLTE almost certainly | 08:43 |
| uvos | i assume only verizon used the 700 mhz band it supports? | 08:43 |
| missMyN900 | probably | 08:43 |
| missMyN900 | and probably is not on the whitelist | 08:43 |
| missMyN900 | I am on T-Mo US | 08:43 |
| uvos | the lte modem might also be carrier locked | 08:44 |
| uvos | we dont know | 08:44 |
| missMyN900 | it doesn't really matter for me so it is ok | 08:44 |
| missMyN900 | I don't even have a card in the PP anymore | 08:44 |
| missMyN900 | due to cost cutting (inflation hurts...) | 08:45 |
| missMyN900 | I would have to remove a card from another phone if our home internet fails | 08:45 |
| missMyN900 | it is emergency use only | 08:46 |
| missMyN900 | I would just use the DB as a mini tablet | 08:46 |
| missMyN900 | it would never replace my iPhone anyway | 08:46 |
| missMyN900 | but it is good to hear there is some support for x86 | 08:47 |
| uvos | missMyN900: ok, get one with bw8x battery if you can, its a different chemistry than the stock battery | 08:47 |
| uvos | and has held up mutch better | 08:47 |
| uvos | if it dont use it at all it can idle 5-6 days | 08:48 |
| uvos | in leste | 08:48 |
| missMyN900 | that is really impressive | 08:48 |
| missMyN900 | there is one that comes with two batteries and external charger | 08:49 |
| missMyN900 | I want original batteries and an external charger | 08:49 |
| missMyN900 | (when the battery in my Z10 drains too far I can only revive it with the external charger) | 08:49 |
| missMyN900 | so probably I would just go with that one | 08:50 |
| missMyN900 | perhaps I can find a BW8X | 08:50 |
| missMyN900 | a Mugen would be nice too but $$$ | 08:50 |
| missMyN900 | uvos: looks like they are easy to find seperately | 08:54 |
| missMyN900 | https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_nkw=bw8x+battery&_sacat=0 | 08:55 |
| missMyN900 | lot of 10 for $20 lol | 08:55 |
| rafael2k | uff, kernel for pp ended compiling | 08:59 |
| rafael2k | will test soon and let you know it is all good. I already did the PR | 08:59 |
| rafael2k | getting fast, just 7 hours | 08:59 |
| rafael2k | LTE in PP is working fine, including VoLTE | 09:02 |
| rafael2k | I use with MTS carrier, but in Brazil I tried with another carrier and also worked with LTE "as usual" | 09:03 |
| rafael2k | but guys in #osmocom know better all about open source VoLTE | 09:04 |
| rafael2k | https://wiki.pine64.org/index.php/PinePhone#VoLTE | 09:07 |
| rafael2k | but sometimes the quectel uses CSFB, especially if there is not profile for VoLTE in the firmware and switches the RAT to 3G or 2G for voice calls | 09:08 |
| rafael2k | here is does CSFB, which is by far not a problem | 09:09 |
| rafael2k | for T-Mobile in US, it is confirmed working, use this profile in the quectel: +QMBNCFG: "List",4,0,0,"Commercial-TMO_VoLTE",0x05010505,201811231 | 09:24 |
| rafael2k | just realized missMyN900 left... eheheheh | 09:25 |
| rafael2k | dpkg -i linux-headers-pine64_5.15.48-1_arm64.deb linux-image-pine64_5.15.48-1_arm64.deb | 09:27 |
| Wizzup | uvos: can we find a similar battery like that for the d4 do you think? | 09:38 |
| Wizzup | Daanct12: yeah I can send a droid 4 if you ask/mail me | 09:38 |
| Daanct12 | Wizzup, i'm not in europe tho, so that would be a difficult thing | 09:39 |
| rafael2k | Linux devuan-pinephone 5.15.48 #1 SMP Wed Jun 22 01:49:32 MSK 2022 aarch64 GNU/Linux | 09:40 |
| rafael2k | ready to go: https://github.com/maemo-leste/pine64-kernel/pull/4 | 09:41 |
| rafael2k | I commited the upstream here: https://github.com/rafael2k/sunxi64-linux/tree/mobian-5.15 | 09:42 |
| rafael2k | which is the same as HEAD from https://gitlab.com/mobian1/devices/sunxi64-linux/-/tree/mobian-5.15 | 09:43 |
| rafael2k | Wizzup: when you have time, please accept the PR and trigger the package creation ^ | 09:45 |
| rafael2k | btw, for the only big missing feature in the PP in Maemo right now is still the camera... no good UI yet | 09:50 |
| rafael2k | *for me | 09:50 |
| Wizzup | might be | 09:52 |
| rafael2k | just tested SMS and voice calls with the new kernel - all good! | 09:52 |
| Wizzup | great. | 09:53 |
| Wizzup | I will be afk for a bit, back later | 09:54 |
| Wizzup | thanks for working on it rafael2k | 09:54 |
| Wizzup | and yes I did try to change the dtbs, I think there's some other regression | 09:54 |
| Wizzup | I found a 2020/2021 image that did work for me | 09:54 |
| Wizzup | so I might need to compare the loaded drivers and dts/timings | 09:54 |
| rafael2k | try with this new kernel when you have time | 09:54 |
| rafael2k | there were some drivers and dtb changes | 09:54 |
| Wizzup | my pinetab is old | 09:55 |
| Wizzup | before the yannounced it even | 09:55 |
| Wizzup | afk | 09:55 |
| rafael2k | understood | 09:56 |
| rafael2k | I think with very small work we could have PPP support... just boot loader + copy the proper dtbs should be enough now, with this same kernel | 09:58 |
| uvos | Wizzup: i mean the nexus battery i use in d4 is essantly the same as bw8x | 10:03 |
| uvos | 2200mAh, regular chemistry | 10:03 |
| uvos | besides being physically smaller than bw8x (fits in the stock battery bay) | 10:04 |
| uvos | motorola dident create a extended battery for d4, unlike d3 and bionic | 10:05 |
| uvos | is voice calls work fine on pp | 10:07 |
| uvos | maybe we should promote sphone | 10:07 |
| Wizzup | rafael2k: I don't have a pinephone pro, but would be nice if someone has so that we can try it | 10:30 |
| Wizzup | uvos: let me see if I can get the mapphone hacks to work, then we can promote it as working on most devices :) | 10:31 |
| lel | MerlijnWajer closed a pull request: https://github.com/maemo-leste/pine64-kernel/pull/4 ( Rebased to 5.15.48, plus latest Pine64 patches.) | 10:31 |
| uvos | Wizzup: no i will not promote the hack | 10:33 |
| uvos | or rather | 10:33 |
| uvos | i wont enable the module default | 10:33 |
| Wizzup | sure | 10:34 |
| Wizzup | in any case I also want to add speakerphone / earpiece switching | 10:34 |
| Wizzup | that code is not there yet | 10:34 |
| Wizzup | I think it would be good if that works | 10:34 |
| uvos | sure yeah | 10:34 |
| uvos | please check on pp if it dose ofc :) | 10:34 |
| Wizzup | I can next week | 10:35 |
| rafael2k | I don't have a PinePhone Pro either | 10:43 |
| rafael2k | I promote sphone | 10:43 |
| rafael2k | : ) | 10:43 |
| rafael2k | even put in the wiki page of maemo pp | 10:43 |
| rafael2k | that calls and SMS work, with UI | 10:44 |
| rafael2k | uvos: I support promoting sphone | 10:49 |
| rafael2k | anyway, a last thing in sphone | 10:50 |
| rafael2k | the ringtone!!! | 10:50 |
| rafael2k | I have it working, but still no ringtone | 10:50 |
| Wizzup | promote as in to stable repos | 10:50 |
| Wizzup | I think we also need to 'promote' the connui-cellular, which isn't actually done yet | 10:51 |
| rafael2k | uvos: could you check or help with with the ring tone issue (I just have no ring tone) | 10:52 |
| rafael2k | (when receiving a call, the phone makes no noise) | 10:52 |
| uvos | rafael2k: you dont have one set | 10:52 |
| uvos | rafael2k: settings->profiles->default->ringtone | 10:52 |
| uvos | we dont currently ship one so you must provide some audio file | 10:53 |
| rafael2k | but for a user who just installed maemo, should not it just work without no action? | 10:53 |
| uvos | sure, but we have no files (copywirte issues) | 10:53 |
| rafael2k | lets just choose any? | 10:54 |
| rafael2k | I mean, there is the ring tone, sms alert at least, any other? | 10:55 |
| rafael2k | which package name should it have, then we can make sphone depend on it, right? | 10:55 |
| uvos | idk something that makes sense | 10:56 |
| rafael2k | sphone just plays the ringtone in a loop, right? | 10:59 |
| uvos | yes | 10:59 |
| rafael2k | so I can drop a Nokia_tune.aac on the right path and that is it | 10:59 |
| rafael2k | lemme test | 11:00 |
| uvos | yes but i would change the libprofile config file | 11:00 |
| uvos | so that (default ringtone) its not called nokia_tune | 11:00 |
| rafael2k | ok | 11:01 |
| rafael2k | ow yeah, it works!! | 11:11 |
| rafael2k | as a stop-gap... I put up this: https://www.abradig.org.br/maemo-crazyness/maemo-ringtone_0.1-2_all.deb | 11:20 |
| rafael2k | it a .deb with the ringtone, so it just works... I did not change paths nor nothing yet | 11:21 |
| rafael2k | could we just add these to osso-sounds-ui may be? | 11:28 |
| rafael2k | so we can definitely say we have telephony 100% up and functional | 11:29 |
| Wizzup | rafael2k: makes sense | 11:31 |
| Wizzup | rafael2k: we can just import the package | 11:31 |
| rafael2k | what you think it is better, I agree, so then users can just use the telephony feature at full (and know when someone call : ) ) | 11:33 |
| rafael2k | I just updated the maemo-ringtone package placing a proper description to be listed in "dpkg -l" | 12:14 |
| rafael2k | 1aa6bf15f843bcbec235337b2c1dd095 maemo-ringtone_0.1-2_all.deb | 12:14 |
| rafael2k | mdd5sum ^ | 12:14 |
| Wizzup | so I can either import a _all.deb pkg, or you can turn it into a proper pkg | 12:16 |
| Wizzup | potentially with more/other ringtones | 12:16 |
| Wizzup | and then we can build it on git | 12:16 |
| rafael2k | I prefer to keep this one low profile.. just import the _all.deb for now, until we have another solution | 13:58 |
| Wizzup | k, we can also replace the sound fine with anythin else. | 14:13 |
| Wizzup | and then just import the pkg | 14:14 |
| Wizzup | as long as something provides the ringtone | 14:14 |
| rafael2k | yeap, but then I agree we should also change some pathes in libprofile (I think) so them we can get rid of legacy names too | 14:19 |
| rafael2k | *then | 14:19 |
| Wizzup | hmmm, not sure if that makes sense, but I guess we could | 14:24 |
| rafael2k | anyway, most importantly, it is working now | 14:26 |
| rafael2k | I'll spend another our trying to get libcamera up and running | 14:27 |
| rafael2k | : ) | 14:27 |
| rafael2k | *hour | 14:27 |
| rafael2k | libcamera got into debian repo, is in sid already | 14:27 |
| Wizzup | do you have a summary of the latest keyboard fixes? | 14:28 |
| Wizzup | rafael2k: what branch (mobian) should I tag | 14:29 |
| Wizzup | rafael2k: like, what remote / commit | 14:30 |
| rafael2k | just a sec, we have two options: | 14:30 |
| rafael2k | https://gitlab.com/mobian1/devices/sunxi64-linux/-/tree/mobian-5.15 | 14:30 |
| rafael2k | https://gitlab.com/mobian1/devices/sunxi64-linux/-/commit/37ce5a967ccdd3a16e40c81a4d12220ba6350813 | 14:30 |
| rafael2k | changelog is: d/changelog: release version 5.15.48 | 14:31 |
| rafael2k | and in case it make things easier, I also cloned it here: https://github.com/rafael2k/sunxi64-linux/tree/mobian-5.15 | 14:32 |
| rafael2k | looking the diff of the patches | 14:33 |
| rafael2k | there are lots of USB work, especially for role shift stuff (master / slave) | 14:34 |
| Wizzup | yeah so I need to make maemo-kernel-{version} | 14:34 |
| Wizzup | I think I pushed a tag | 14:35 |
| Wizzup | let me try to build it | 14:35 |
| rafael2k | and concerning the keyboard, many lines ensuring maximum current limit is enforced, in order not to have magic smoke I suppose | 14:35 |
| Wizzup | yeah, I see | 14:35 |
| Wizzup | I think I might have fried mine already | 14:35 |
| rafael2k | I fried mine | 14:35 |
| Wizzup | :( | 14:35 |
| rafael2k | and this pachset mostly written by meggi is reccent | 14:35 |
| Wizzup | it's too easy to try it | 14:35 |
| Wizzup | fry* | 14:35 |
| rafael2k | just imported to mobian | 14:35 |
| rafael2k | I will end up buying the 9 USD board replacement and try to fix my... they sent indeed a board replacement, buy I was in Brazil and missed the delivery, and it returned | 14:36 |
| rafael2k | :/ | 14:36 |
| Wizzup | hm, I didn't check out the replacement | 14:37 |
| Wizzup | https://phoenix.maemo.org/job/pine64-kernel-source/ | 14:37 |
| rafael2k | yay! | 14:37 |
| Wizzup | brb | 14:38 |
| rafael2k | I see a spinner! | 14:38 |
| Wizzup | yeah that will trigger the actual build | 14:38 |
| rafael2k | should it not be something like ...5.15.48...? | 14:39 |
| rafael2k | I remember long time ago in my N900 there was a plug-in to change roles in USB | 14:40 |
| rafael2k | do we still have that? | 14:40 |
| Wizzup | h-e-n, yes, but we don't have it now. | 14:42 |
| rafael2k | as I understand, the new patchset also should provide better external monitor / usb dock support | 14:42 |
| Wizzup | ok | 14:43 |
| rafael2k | right. At some point I might revisit that... I just can not find my USB-C to "normal" usb to connect my USB ethernet adapter or a keyboard to test | 14:43 |
| Wizzup | the sw is still there, foss, it just won't work as-is on the n900 | 14:44 |
| Wizzup | but we can re-use some of the code | 14:44 |
| rafael2k | I remember the usb keyboard and ethernet was working fine in PmOS, but in Maemo, as we set USB to gadget mode, kernel was just crashing when I connected anything, but this more than a year ago | 14:44 |
| rafael2k | yeap, I was just thinking in re-using it for newer kernel versions | 14:45 |
| bencoh | does it work / is it needed on droid4? | 14:45 |
| bencoh | (said plugin) | 14:46 |
| Wizzup | probably not | 14:47 |
| Wizzup | most of it should be autodetect | 14:47 |
| Wizzup | rafael2k: rerunning, missed a tag | 14:56 |
| rafael2k | : )) | 14:58 |
| rafael2k | btw, we might need this for the camera in PP: https://gitlab.com/mobian1/devices/firmware-mobian-nonfree/-/blob/mobian/firmware/ov5640_af.bin | 15:07 |
| rafael2k | I created a proper debian package for it: https://github.com/rafael2k/firmware-pine64-ov5640 | 15:11 |
| Wizzup | I thought we had already imported this, did we not? | 15:11 |
| rafael2k | sorry if yes, I just remember about this right now because I'm working with libcamera | 15:12 |
| bencoh | in case you need some implementation reference, the ov5640 is used on many i.MX boards and is decently supported there | 15:13 |
| rafael2k | apt-cache search firmware-pine64-ov5640 | 15:13 |
| rafael2k | returns me nothing | 15:13 |
| rafael2k | tks bencoh! | 15:13 |
| bencoh | (alhtough it might be already merged nowdays) | 15:13 |
| bencoh | also I used to work with that chip (a few years ago), so ... feel free to ask, I might remember some stuff (hopefully) | 15:14 |
| rafael2k | exactly, it is indeed, but it seems there are some differences how pinephone uses it, so everybody just uses the highly hardcoded MegaPixels app... | 15:14 |
| bencoh | s/chip/sensor/ | 15:14 |
| bencoh | oh | 15:14 |
| rafael2k | cool! | 15:14 |
| rafael2k | I will if I discover exactly what features are missing in the v4l code | 15:15 |
| rafael2k | I remember I use to have a list of the missing capabilities, but can not find | 15:15 |
| Wizzup | rafael2k: patches don't seem to apply: https://phoenix.maemo.org/job/pine64-kernel-source/77/console | 15:16 |
| Wizzup | it is possible I picked the wrong commit | 15:16 |
| Wizzup | oh, I did | 15:16 |
| Wizzup | damn | 15:16 |
| rafael2k | Wizzup: lemme check, but I definitely tested here and I'm running it | 15:17 |
| Wizzup | well, third time is a charm.. | 15:17 |
| rafael2k | third is the good one! | 15:18 |
| Wizzup | running noq | 15:28 |
| Wizzup | now* | 15:28 |
| buZz | removed the german battery from my second d4, put back the original 2014 one | 15:43 |
| buZz | seeeeems to work a lot better, but still doing training/calibration | 15:44 |
| rafael2k | firmware-ov5640 is there, sorry, I mixed up things | 16:18 |
| Wizzup | check :) | 16:25 |
| rafael2k | bencoh: I'm putting some debug info of the camera here: https://github.com/kbingham/libcamera/issues/28 | 16:26 |
| rafael2k | hopefully we'll be able to have good support of pinephone cameras in the PP* soon | 16:26 |
| rafael2k | then with libcamera working, we can wireup things | 16:27 |
| rafael2k | (some dependencies of libcamera will be needed to be sorted, like newer meson and so on... but this is the easiest part) | 16:29 |
| Wizzup | ideally we'd be on the new debian some time soon | 16:33 |
| Wizzup | rafael2k: kernel is in repo, maybe give it a try | 16:40 |
| rafael2k | just a sec | 16:50 |
| rafael2k | Get:1 https://maedevu.maemo.org/leste beowulf-devel/pinephone arm64 linux-headers-pine64 arm64 5.15.48-1+2m7 [7844 kB] | 16:53 |
| rafael2k | Get:2 https://maedevu.maemo.org/leste beowulf-devel/pinephone arm64 linux-image-pine64 arm64 5.15.48-1+2m7 [33,4 MB] | 16:53 |
| Wizzup | I can't get the muarf maemo mirror to work, it keeps trying and failing on ipv6 :( | 16:55 |
| Wizzup | even setting disable_ipv via sysctl didn't work | 16:55 |
| Wizzup | disable_ipv6 * | 16:55 |
| Wizzup | (no, I can't fix the network I'm at) | 16:57 |
| rafael2k | I'm paying a vpn now, but it totally does not support ipv6 | 17:00 |
| rafael2k | :/ | 17:00 |
| bencoh | Wizzup: muarf.org is still down (or rather, down again, and I still need to replace those RAM modules) | 17:01 |
| bencoh | Wizzup: you can use the archive.org mirror meanwhile | 17:01 |
| Wizzup | oh... | 17:02 |
| Wizzup | got a link? | 17:02 |
| bencoh | https://web.archive.org/web/20141124063939/http://mirrors.muarf.org/maemo/ | 17:02 |
| Wizzup | heh | 17:02 |
| bencoh | sorry about that :( | 17:02 |
| Wizzup | it is a full dump? | 17:03 |
| bencoh | usually I have a fallback host to serve it, but I still need to set it up properly | 17:03 |
| bencoh | it's a full public dump (excluding ovi) iirc | 17:03 |
| Wizzup | yeah, I need it to set up qt mobile hotspot.. | 17:03 |
| bencoh | my current set of servers is a mess ... | 17:04 |
| rafael2k | kernel working | 17:05 |
| rafael2k | tks! | 17:05 |
| Wizzup | bencoh: ok, ty, will try, just wasted an hour on this lol | 17:05 |
| Wizzup | https to archive.org doesn't work | 17:06 |
| Wizzup | of course | 17:06 |
| bencoh | sorry :( | 17:06 |
| bencoh | I think we have another mirror btw | 17:06 |
| Wizzup | let me just try it this way | 17:07 |
| Wizzup | I just need wireless-tools ... | 17:07 |
| bencoh | http://maemo.linenoise.info/ | 17:08 |
| Wizzup | trying that | 17:09 |
| Wizzup | it gives key expired. | 17:10 |
| Wizzup | how the... | 17:10 |
| Wizzup | I just wget'd it | 17:12 |
| buZz | for running maserati-calibrate, should i be on wifi? | 17:17 |
| buZz | it keeps failing on this d4 i moved a sd card to | 17:17 |
| bencoh | key expired should be ignored | 17:17 |
| buZz | running it right after first failure gives different failures , so not sure if i'm just doing soemthing wrong :D | 17:17 |
| bencoh | (nokia keys expired a looong time ago) | 17:18 |
| buZz | what kernel config are we using? is it in arch/arm/configs/ ? | 17:21 |
| buZz | (for droid4) | 17:21 |
| Wizzup | omap2plus_defconfig with changes from our own repo afaik | 17:22 |
| Wizzup | bencoh: well yeah but apt doesn't want to ignore it | 17:22 |
| buZz | oh dangit, i'm on the wrong branch, i think? wip/n900/maemo-5.15-cleaned-up | 17:22 |
| buZz | or is that used for all omaps now | 17:22 |
| Wizzup | that is also for d4 | 17:22 |
| Wizzup | uvos: is in the process of cleaning it up | 17:23 |
| Wizzup | I am not sure if he already did and the ball is in my court | 17:23 |
| buZz | alright :) well, i'll just build a d4 kernel from this ;) | 17:23 |
| * buZz tries ARCH=arm make -j4 | 17:28 | |
| buZz | lol what | 17:28 |
| buZz | gcc: error: unrecognized argument in option ‘-mabi=aapcs-linux’ | 17:29 |
| buZz | hmmz ok | 17:29 |
| buZz | maybe my workstation really is getting up for updates soon :P | 17:29 |
| uvos | buZz: to recalibrate you have to reinstall the stock nvs ie reinstall the ti firmware whatever package | 17:35 |
| buZz | yeah, i did apt reinstall, and ran the calibrator, gave an error | 17:49 |
| rafael2k | do anyone knows where is the settings in maemo that sets USB to gadget mode (at least in the PinePhone)? | 18:45 |
| buZz | lol, just found a Nokia SU-W8 in my storage | 19:00 |
| buZz | rafael2k: i dont think there's any gui for that right now | 19:00 |
| buZz | its probably something in /sys/platform/* | 19:00 |
| buZz | some echo "bla" > | 19:01 |
| buZz | wait, isnt it usb gadget by default, to begin with? | 19:01 |
| buZz | 'ip addr' doesnt show a 'usb0' interface? | 19:01 |
| * buZz tries his pinephone | 19:02 | |
| buZz | hmmm, i see | 19:05 |
| buZz | rafael2k: 'modprobe g_ether' gives me a 'usb0' interface, not sure if its totally working, but connecting it to my chromebook here does see a [4417301.161764] usb 2-2.4.4.1: Product: RNDIS/Ethernet Gadget | 19:07 |
| buZz | cdc_eem | 19:07 |
| buZz | right, ethernet emulation module :D | 19:08 |
| Wizzup | bencoh: this should work already, with the right modules being probed. usbnet is the default | 19:20 |
| Wizzup | err buZz | 19:20 |
| buZz | Wizzup: yeah rafael2k was asking :P d4 is g_ether by default but pinephone isnt, is that by choice? | 19:44 |
| rafael2k | buZz: it is working indeed... I can ssh over usb normally | 20:53 |
| rafael2k | I wanted to know indeed how to use the USB in host mode | 20:54 |
| rafael2k | it is usb gadget by default, indeed... | 20:55 |
| buZz | oh!, eh , i dont know exactly | 21:04 |
| buZz | on d4, i just connected a otg adapter + usb cardreader to the port, and it worked first try | 21:04 |
| buZz | -without- disabling usb gadget or usb0 interface first | 21:05 |
| rafael2k | right, good to know, I'll take a look, tks! | 21:08 |
| lel | sanderfoobar labeled an issue: https://github.com/maemo-leste/conversations/issues/8 (Feature: Search message(s)) | 22:39 |
| lel | sanderfoobar opened an issue: https://github.com/maemo-leste/conversations/issues/8 (Feature: Search message(s)) | 22:39 |
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