| missMyN900 | hmm the Atom tablet is a dead end: the touch screen is not detected at all | 00:32 |
|---|---|---|
| missMyN900 | it doesn't work in Devuan (XFCE) and nothing remotely related shows up in the dmesg output; I have checked twice | 00:33 |
| missMyN900 | also grepped for various related terms | 00:33 |
| missMyN900 | currently wiping it and will be getting rid of it | 00:33 |
| buZz | gimme | 00:34 |
| buZz | :P | 00:34 |
| missMyN900 | shipping would probably be expensive | 00:38 |
| missMyN900 | it would be better to buy a T100TA locally as apparently those have good Linux supported including touch screen | 00:38 |
| missMyN900 | buZz: besides it is not really worth it to waste time on such an obscure device. Better to focus on something like a T100TA or a Toshiba tablet, which can actually be found on eBay in a quantity of more than 1 | 00:50 |
| Wizzup | we have tablets with socs like the droid 4 | 00:51 |
| Wizzup | I think uvos and tmlind were working on one of the last missing pieces | 00:51 |
| Wizzup | a display bridge thing | 00:52 |
| missMyN900 | you mean OMAP4 tablets? | 00:54 |
| missMyN900 | T100TA is nicer though | 00:54 |
| lel | norayr opened an issue: https://github.com/maemo-leste-extras/bugtracker/issues/31 ([REQ] msid) | 00:54 |
| missMyN900 | Z3735/40 is a lot faster than a dual Cortex A9 | 00:54 |
| missMyN900 | Intel HD Graphics is better than an ancient PowerVR too | 00:55 |
| norayr | yeah i ported msid as well. it wasn't able to download sid files from hvsc archive, but apparently the fix was easy. | 00:55 |
| missMyN900 | now I am actually thinking I might get a T100TA if I sell my Pinephone | 00:55 |
| missMyN900 | rather than a DB | 00:55 |
| missMyN900 | I would be using the DB basically as a tablet anyway | 00:55 |
| xmn | poor pinephone .. lol | 00:56 |
| norayr | Wizzup: it's probably late for you to assist me with droid3? | 00:57 |
| norayr | i had android 4 on it, and after running flasher script i guess i know have android 3. but i cannot even use it. and no kexecboot. :/ | 00:57 |
| missMyN900 | norayr: Android 3 (Honeycomb) was for tablets only ;) | 00:58 |
| missMyN900 | I actually had an earlier ASUS Transformer (Tegra based) running it many years ago | 00:58 |
| missMyN900 | IIRC something malfunctioned | 00:58 |
| missMyN900 | touch screen I think it was | 00:58 |
| norayr | yeah true. i wanted to say downgraded to android 4. | 01:00 |
| norayr | oh. | 01:00 |
| norayr | android 2. | 01:00 |
| norayr | (2 and 4 are near each other on my keyboard) | 01:00 |
| Wizzup | norayr: yeah too late now, can tomorrow eve | 01:00 |
| norayr | it is programmer's dvorak | 01:00 |
| missMyN900 | xmn: I am sure there are plenty of people willing to buy a Pinephone so it will find a good new owner for sure | 01:00 |
| norayr | yeah, let's try tomorrow. thank you. | 01:00 |
| Wizzup | did you see https://leste.maemo.org/Motorola_Droid_3 | 01:00 |
| norayr | yes sure | 01:00 |
| norayr | i followed it | 01:00 |
| Wizzup | so it didn't work? | 01:00 |
| norayr | no | 01:00 |
| buZz | Wizzup: i have a archos 80 G9 | 01:01 |
| missMyN900 | but yeah all the reports of hardware issues have scared me a bit and I am not satisfied with the battery life at all | 01:01 |
| missMyN900 | so might as well get rid of it while it still has significant value | 01:01 |
| norayr | it downgraded my android from 4 to 2, but in a way i cannot even login and start using it. | 01:01 |
| buZz | iirc its exact same soc | 01:01 |
| bencoh | android 2 ?! | 01:01 |
| norayr | and it did not setup kexecboot. | 01:01 |
| missMyN900 | I can use the money to buy a USB LTE modem and a much, much cheaper ML device | 01:01 |
| xmn | missMyN900 yeah. It a great for hacking on, but tough if it's your only phone. | 01:01 |
| norayr | yeah default on droid phones was android 2, then it got an upgrade to 4. | 01:01 |
| bencoh | oh, you mean on droid4 | 01:02 |
| missMyN900 | it's not my only phone though | 01:02 |
| norayr | no droid4 i was able to setup, wiki info is enough. | 01:02 |
| missMyN900 | I bought it for the modem since my home internet can be unreliable | 01:02 |
| norayr | but droid3 wiki info is not great. | 01:02 |
| bencoh | ah | 01:02 |
| norayr | droid3 looks very cool, i like how it looks much more than droid4. | 01:03 |
| norayr | i actually don't like how droid 4, 2, 1 look at all. | 01:03 |
| norayr | but droid3 i like. | 01:03 |
| Wizzup | I can help later this weekend, say 18 hours from now or so | 01:04 |
| norayr | so i got some droid3, apparently it had a crack on the screen, and it was like it was thrown in a bucket with glue. i had to clean it up carefully. | 01:04 |
| norayr | yeah thank you! | 01:04 |
| norayr | that's around 9pm for me, that would be amazing. | 01:05 |
| norayr | i usually sleep at about 3am in the morning. which is now. | 01:05 |
| Wizzup | it's 1am here | 01:06 |
| xmn | missMyN900 ah I see | 01:06 |
| missMyN900 | xmn: basically I bought it in a hurry after having only done limited research | 01:06 |
| missMyN900 | at first LTE did not work at all so it was useless for its intended purpose | 01:06 |
| xmn | dbl oops | 01:06 |
| missMyN900 | it only works with an APN other than the default/recommended one | 01:07 |
| xmn | never buy tech stuff in a hurry :P | 01:07 |
| missMyN900 | this was the only time I did that... | 01:07 |
| missMyN900 | I always do tons of research | 01:07 |
| xmn | mm..hhh. lol | 01:07 |
| missMyN900 | I wish I had discovered the ThinkPenguin USB LTE modem at that time | 01:07 |
| missMyN900 | and just bought that | 01:08 |
| missMyN900 | I would have discovered ML eventually anyway | 01:08 |
| missMyN900 | and probably just bought a DB | 01:08 |
| missMyN900 | and it would have saved me money and time... | 01:08 |
| xmn | sell it sooner rather later I would say or hold onto it for when global supplies become worst. | 01:08 |
| missMyN900 | it is already out of stock currently | 01:08 |
| missMyN900 | it was supposed to be in stock again this month though | 01:09 |
| missMyN900 | right now I am already selling other stuff | 01:09 |
| xmn | my n900 is about to get kicked off of tmob :(, so I keep trying to run the PP as my daliy, but too many stoppers. | 01:09 |
| missMyN900 | have you tried latest pmOS 22.06? | 01:09 |
| missMyN900 | it is very unstable for me | 01:09 |
| missMyN900 | but Plasma is faster/smoother than 21.12 SP4/5 | 01:10 |
| xmn | Just keep in mind that these items may increase in value as things run out. Look at rb pi's | 01:10 |
| missMyN900 | honestly, I am not willing to bet on it | 01:10 |
| missMyN900 | I have lost quite a lot of money on phones before | 01:10 |
| missMyN900 | niche ones | 01:10 |
| missMyN900 | (BB Classic and Jolla) | 01:10 |
| xmn | When I get time I will try the latest of sailfish, Maeno-leste again | 01:10 |
| xmn | meamo-* | 01:11 |
| missMyN900 | ML runs quite nicely but there is a regression | 01:11 |
| xmn | lol, nm | 01:11 |
| missMyN900 | you cannot trigger HIM anymore with the volume up button | 01:11 |
| missMyN900 | I have filed an issue on GH | 01:11 |
| missMyN900 | so that limits usability | 01:11 |
| missMyN900 | are you on T-Mobile US as well? | 01:11 |
| xmn | it will get fixed, these guys are doing amazing work keeping maemo alive. | 01:11 |
| missMyN900 | for sure | 01:11 |
| missMyN900 | just giving you a heads-up about the current state | 01:12 |
| missMyN900 | since you are trying to daily drive | 01:12 |
| xmn | yeah all the US carries are or have done it. | 01:12 |
| missMyN900 | xmn: anyway, if you want to use LTE on the PP on T-Mobile US, the "fast" LTE APN won't work | 01:13 |
| xmn | I will likely daily sailffish on cough android HW :) | 01:13 |
| missMyN900 | you need to use "speedtalk" mobile broadband or something like that | 01:13 |
| missMyN900 | I think it may be a laptop-oriented APN | 01:13 |
| missMyN900 | that is what Plasma autodetects and it works | 01:13 |
| xmn | lte not 4g right? | 01:13 |
| missMyN900 | even though T-Mobile recommends "fast" for LTE devices | 01:13 |
| missMyN900 | I am not sure | 01:14 |
| xmn | so far the data on the PP and tmob has been really good and stable. | 01:14 |
| missMyN900 | are you using Phosh? | 01:14 |
| xmn | I don't have my sim in it right now so can't check. | 01:14 |
| xmn | yeah manjaro & mobian phosh | 01:14 |
| missMyN900 | Phosh doesn't have autodetect last I tried | 01:15 |
| xmn | mostly manjaro at the moment since it updates quickly | 01:15 |
| missMyN900 | but I only ever tried pmOS | 01:15 |
| xmn | I though mobian does, I would need check | 01:15 |
| uvos | Wizzup: ok so i rebased everything on top of 5.18 | 01:17 |
| uvos | everything works except for cpcap/hp patches | 01:17 |
| uvos | not sure why that stopped working, ill take a look later (maybe tomorrow) | 01:18 |
| missMyN900 | xmn: I think https://www.ebay.com/itm/384929869343 compares very favorably with the Bionic for tablet use :) | 01:19 |
| missMyN900 | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices/t100ta | 01:20 |
| missMyN900 | https://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?t=336841 | 01:24 |
| xmn | I really wanted to like ubports, but in the end it's just not for me. Now if they move lomri over some where else I could try that. | 01:27 |
| xmn | But I really like (or am used to) the experience of my n900. The only thing that felt as good in some ways was sailfish. So if nemo takes off I could image it could be the ideal DE for me with debian underneath | 01:28 |
| Wizzup | ugreat @ 5.18 | 01:29 |
| Wizzup | uvos^ | 01:29 |
| rafael2k | for those using T-Mobile is US, please set the VoLTE profile manually: https://wiki.pine64.org/wiki/PinePhone#VoLTE | 06:43 |
| rafael2k | enable VoLTE: AT+QCFG="ims",1 | 06:44 |
| rafael2k | Set T-MO: AT+QMBNCFG="select","Commercial-TMO_VoLTE" | 06:44 |
| rafael2k | this obviously it is for voice... for data it is working fine already | 06:45 |
| Wizzup | rafael2k: this can go on the wiki :) | 08:29 |
| Wizzup | so I was on a trip to austria for a week and I've used leste everywhere, it works great on the d4 | 12:27 |
| Wizzup | usual problems still exist, but I've used it for calls, sms, gps, mobile data, wifi hotspot | 12:27 |
| Wizzup | I would use it for navigation, but modrana routes don't work | 12:27 |
| buZz | alright! 1183mAh with my kernelmod turned into 1357mAh | 12:33 |
| buZz | 14.7% more :D | 12:34 |
| norayr | parazyd: please open me 3 repos, as i requested on bugtracker. ports done, i need only to add gpb.conf and test in builder. | 12:59 |
| norayr | i enjoy rught now msid - which downloads and plays sid (c64 sid) music. | 12:59 |
| norayr | would like to share it with others too. | 12:59 |
| Wizzup | parazyd is mia/gone | 13:00 |
| norayr | oh. | 13:00 |
| Wizzup | I will do it | 13:00 |
| Wizzup | norayr: do you have a link to the requests? | 13:02 |
| Wizzup | oh, got it | 13:02 |
| Wizzup | https://github.com/maemo-leste-extras/bugtracker | 13:02 |
| lel | MerlijnWajer created a repository: https://github.com/maemo-leste-extras/msid | 13:03 |
| lel | MerlijnWajer created a repository: https://github.com/maemo-leste-extras/shermans-aquarium-maemo | 13:04 |
| lel | MerlijnWajer created a repository: https://github.com/maemo-leste-extras/live-wallpaper | 13:04 |
| buZz | cool :) | 13:05 |
| Wizzup | I will revoke parazyd's access this month | 13:06 |
| dsc_ | /win 26 | 13:08 |
| buZz | Wizzup: what happened, totally unknown? | 13:08 |
| buZz | hope he's ok | 13:09 |
| Wizzup | norayr: you should be all set | 13:11 |
| Wizzup | buZz: honestly I don't care at this point, I am sure he has had the opportunity to reach out to us | 13:12 |
| buZz | :( | 13:12 |
| Wizzup | I just want my fxtec back | 13:13 |
| buZz | yeah :( | 13:13 |
| Wizzup | norayr: I think you're all set | 13:15 |
| buZz | Wizzup: i remember, back on maemo 4/5 , it was kinda common to see 'alternative kernel builds' as packages in the repos | 13:22 |
| buZz | with overclocking or whatever | 13:22 |
| buZz | maybe i should package a 'EB41 kernel' ? :) | 13:22 |
| buZz | this 15% extra capacity imho is supernice, and seems to work well | 13:22 |
| Wizzup | buZz: no, we shouldn't have additional kernels, we have full control over this | 13:23 |
| buZz | right, ok | 13:24 |
| Wizzup | let's see what your changes are and what uvos and Tony think | 13:24 |
| buZz | they're 'unsafe' | 13:24 |
| buZz | :) | 13:24 |
| Wizzup | this is charging the battery to like 4.35V? | 13:24 |
| buZz | -better- would be getting nvmem functional and actually identifying the batteries | 13:24 |
| buZz | yes | 13:24 |
| Wizzup | yeah we decided not to do it after we all had several droid4's with batteries as balloons | 13:24 |
| buZz | with EB41s ? | 13:25 |
| buZz | or as in, accidentally had the 4.35V charging on a normal lipo that wasnt HV? | 13:27 |
| Wizzup | no, just having it on 4.35V for proloned times seems to really decrease life time of battery | 13:33 |
| Wizzup | brb | 13:33 |
| buZz | oh, right, yeah i assume so, its a battery from 2012 anyway ;) | 13:33 |
| buZz | its on 4.35V for almost no time though :P charging voltage is 4.35V but when it reaches that it almost directly declares 100% and drops to ~4.3V | 13:34 |
| buZz | maybe i can try charging only to 4.31V instead, see what the difference in mAh will be | 13:37 |
| Wizzup | buZz: right but I often keep my d4 plugged in over night | 14:33 |
| Wizzup | and then suddenly it's 25% of the time (yeah 6 hr sleep :p) on 4.35V | 14:33 |
| Wizzup | in any case, open a pr and we can discuss the best way | 14:33 |
| buZz | gee, well, i'll try 4.31 or 4.3 | 14:33 |
| buZz | 'best' would be have the kernel identify batterytype, and also actually read charge cycles and temperature | 14:34 |
| Wizzup | it can do that afaik | 14:34 |
| lel | MerlijnWajer closed an issue: https://github.com/maemo-leste-extras/bugtracker/issues/31 ([REQ] msid) | 14:35 |
| lel | MerlijnWajer closed an issue: https://github.com/maemo-leste-extras/bugtracker/issues/30 ([REQ] shermans aquarium) | 14:35 |
| lel | MerlijnWajer closed an issue: https://github.com/maemo-leste-extras/bugtracker/issues/29 ([REQ] live-wallpaper) | 14:35 |
| Wizzup | norayr: reminder that you have to accept the invite | 14:35 |
| buZz | Wizzup: yeah but afaik its not functional, if you check dmesg you'll see cpcap report that it wasnt able to detect batterytype | 14:47 |
| buZz | at least, i've never seen it work , something about nvmem not working yet? plus preventing something else from working? cant remember exactly. i'll open a issue anyway | 14:48 |
| buZz | Wizzup: oh btw, since my mod, i'm -finally- for the first time able to hit that 'charge mode' we added this year(?) or recently anyway | 14:49 |
| buZz | with the cpcap-charger.c still running 4.2V , it would never do that, with it on 4.35V , it -always- hits it when i boot with USB connected | 14:49 |
| lel | buzztiaan opened an issue: https://github.com/maemo-leste/bugtracker/issues/621 (Droid4: identify batterytype to get charger to work for HV) | 14:52 |
| buZz | tagged uvos in the issue too | 14:54 |
| Wizzup | it always works for me fwiw | 14:55 |
| buZz | weird | 14:55 |
| buZz | Wizzup: oh actually, wait, it didnt hit it this boot | 14:55 |
| buZz | might just be the 'power supply connected before power-on, doesnt appear as power supply connected when kernel boots' | 14:56 |
| Wizzup | it depends on the battery state and also on the cable | 14:56 |
| buZz | hm right | 14:56 |
| buZz | but i do think cpcap-charger is somehow involved in how it reads the USB , if it calls it 'lets be charging' or not | 14:57 |
| buZz | which then triggers charge-mode or not | 15:00 |
| buZz | thusfar i havent pinpointed the exact requirements to hit it | 15:00 |
| buZz | i still need to find where that 'battery low at 3.4V! going to shutdown now!' is coming from :P i think that should follow the MIN VOLTAGE of cpcap-battery aswell | 15:41 |
| buZz | or well, with some margin for shutdowntime obviously | 15:41 |
| buZz | is there a way to start the appmanager without it breaking my nonproper gprs connection? :D | 16:07 |
| buZz | btw i've had >48hr connections on gprs now :D | 16:07 |
| Wizzup | buZz: hm, with ssh or mosh? | 16:46 |
| buZz | yeah mosh running | 16:46 |
| buZz | (really sucks battery though) | 16:46 |
| buZz | often i leave it hooked up to a usb powerbank with 2x 18650 | 16:46 |
| buZz | or on external power | 16:46 |
| buZz | so yeah, i'll be monitoring puffyness of battery for sure | 16:47 |
| buZz | maybe i'll redo as 4.3 or 4.31 anyway just to be a bit closer to safety | 16:47 |
| Wizzup | I use ssh, so I think/thought that used a lot more power | 16:48 |
| Wizzup | buZz: didn't mena to scare you, that's just what we found | 16:48 |
| buZz | hehe np , i've been calling my modification 'bermbom' anyway | 16:50 |
| Wizzup | I'd love to try a bionic with uvos' battery choices | 16:51 |
| Wizzup | I feel like I have to charge my d4 a bit too much still | 16:51 |
| buZz | if i can lower that powerdown voltage a bit more, i think i can do ~10hr of screen+mosh on the d4 | 16:52 |
| buZz | +gprs, on battery alone | 16:52 |
| dsc_ | so telepathy-idle facilitates being online on IRC | 17:05 |
| dsc_ | d4 people will have the device in their pants /whatever | 17:06 |
| dsc_ | and travel around | 17:06 |
| dsc_ | i.e: the device will reconnect all the time | 17:06 |
| Wizzup | yes, unless they connect to a bouncer | 17:06 |
| dsc_ | result: IRC channel gets spammed with quit/join | 17:06 |
| dsc_ | timeouts* | 17:06 |
| Wizzup | this is inherently an irc problem | 17:06 |
| dsc_ | hehe yes | 17:06 |
| Wizzup | we don't need to solve it | 17:06 |
| dsc_ | fair | 17:06 |
| Wizzup | there are clients that allow you to use both the ncurses part and also use it as a bouncer -- I think weechat? | 17:07 |
| Wizzup | not sure | 17:07 |
| Wizzup | in any case I'd probably consider the irc use case mostly for testing | 17:07 |
| Wizzup | it's not super likely that avif irc users will keep it connected all the time, also because the protocol doesn't do anything wrt push notifications etc, to save battery | 17:08 |
| lel | MerlijnWajer closed a pull request: https://github.com/maemo-leste/rtcom-eventlogger/pull/1 (RTCOM_EL_OP_STR_LIKE) | 17:09 |
| buZz | yeah i messed with it a bit but its weird to use on device | 17:10 |
| Wizzup | well, we can use it to test 'group chats' (channels) | 17:12 |
| dsc_ | yeah | 17:12 |
| Wizzup | can anyone with pinephone confirm? https://github.com/maemo-leste/bugtracker/issues/615 | 18:02 |
| humpelstilzchen[ | I'm op of #615, still valid | 19:19 |
| Wizzup | and the proposed solution? | 19:19 |
| humpelstilzchen[ | I also got my entry from pactl info | grep "Default Sink" | 19:23 |
| Wizzup | yeah, but the applet needs more info, like there's also call volume sink later on | 19:24 |
| uvos | merging what buZz did is a non starter ofc | 19:56 |
| uvos | since xt875 and mz6xx have stock non hv batterys | 19:56 |
| uvos | the solution is to change the one wire driver to not use huge amounts of power | 19:56 |
| uvos | so the detection code that exists allready can do its job | 19:56 |
| uvos | in practice | 19:56 |
| buZz | indeed, it cant be used as default nor as option (as wizzup made clear) | 19:57 |
| buZz | the issue is mostly about the whole deal of it currently defaulting to the safe stuff | 19:57 |
| buZz | uvos: or maybe load driver , do thingies , and unload/stop it ? | 19:57 |
| buZz | instead of keeping it around | 19:57 |
| uvos | id rather have the kernel not behave like an idiot | 19:58 |
| uvos | than hacking around it in userpsace | 19:58 |
| buZz | right, fine too, cant kernel unload it? :) | 19:58 |
| uvos | btw when mesureing the voltage | 19:59 |
| uvos | plase note that d4 has a huge resitance between the battery and cpcap for some reason | 19:59 |
| uvos | at 100mA it drops ~0.15V | 19:59 |
| buZz | yeah one of my EB41 has horrible contacts towards the phone, the current one i'm using seems much better | 20:00 |
| uvos | no i mean mesured on the screws | 20:00 |
| buZz | ah even there? gee | 20:00 |
| uvos | yeah | 20:00 |
| uvos | so it droping to 4.1v right after disconnecting the charger is fine | 20:01 |
| buZz | hmhm | 20:01 |
| uvos | if you mesure it at the battery its 4.2 | 20:01 |
| buZz | but, with 4.2V charging, it drops to 4.0v after disconnecting | 20:01 |
| uvos | right thats then 4.15V ish | 20:01 |
| uvos | on the battery | 20:01 |
| buZz | oh could be, i ment 4.0v on the phoneside | 20:01 |
| uvos | the bat also has some internal drop, i would not worry to mutch about the 0.05V | 20:01 |
| buZz | my DMM is mia it seems | 20:01 |
| buZz | uvos: either way, i was superimpressed by gaining 15% of life :P | 20:02 |
| buZz | imho quite significant | 20:03 |
| uvos | thats a bit more than you "should" gain based on discarge curves | 20:03 |
| uvos | the callibration procedure also has a lot of slac | 20:03 |
| buZz | that 1181mAh calibration was after ~10-20 redo's | 20:03 |
| uvos | since the kernel takes the low side as whenever it drops below 3.4v iirc | 20:03 |
| buZz | i'll redo the HV version more often too | 20:03 |
| uvos | thats really inaccurate | 20:03 |
| uvos | buZz: ok | 20:03 |
| uvos | you should gain about 7% | 20:03 |
| buZz | thusfar the >10% seems to be quite true | 20:04 |
| uvos | ok | 20:04 |
| buZz | maybe i'll just order a couple of your(?) pcb design on flex stuff | 20:05 |
| buZz | and try to find a nice HV lipo on aliexpress :P | 20:05 |
| uvos | not sure why you want hv | 20:05 |
| uvos | they kinda suck a bit | 20:05 |
| buZz | perhaps :) | 20:06 |
| uvos | they last less cycles than the normal chemestry | 20:06 |
| uvos | so idk if i would want one | 20:06 |
| uvos | some power density advantage ofc | 20:06 |
| buZz | haha , could put a LTO battery if you want high life ;) | 20:06 |
| buZz | all HV cells i own now are >10 yo and do >60% of original capacity ;) | 20:06 |
| uvos | sure | 20:07 |
| uvos | you could | 20:07 |
| uvos | right thas not that great really | 20:07 |
| uvos | the regulars i have of same age do mutch better | 20:07 |
| uvos | but yeah i gues 5 or so years till 80% is fine | 20:08 |
| buZz | perhaps :) imho thats still totally fine | 20:08 |
| buZz | also, those HV cells were used as HV most their life | 20:08 |
| uvos | Wizzup: so regarding the volume applet | 20:12 |
| uvos | Wizzup: it using the default sink for hifi should be fine | 20:12 |
| uvos | Wizzup: for voice calls it should just check what devices have a voicecall profile | 20:13 |
| uvos | and then gang all of those | 20:13 |
| uvos | right now the voice call volume goes nowhere anyhow | 20:13 |
| uvos | btw | 20:13 |
| Wizzup | we can provide device specific configs and give those the same names | 20:46 |
| Wizzup | afaik | 20:46 |
| uvos | yeah but theres no real reason to do so | 21:14 |
| uvos | you are able to interogate pa to gain all the info you need | 21:14 |
| rafael2k | I want my volume keys to work as volume keys | 21:30 |
| rafael2k | : ) | 21:30 |
| rafael2k | PP wiki updated with VoLTE info: https://leste.maemo.org/PinePhone | 21:50 |
| rafael2k | Here in Moscow, I never managed to make VoLTE work tbh... but also there is no specific VoLTE profile for MTS | 21:51 |
| rafael2k | but CSFB just works, and the modem automagically switches to 2G or 3G in a voice call | 21:52 |
| rafael2k | I might try beeline just in case... but at some point I'll try the open source firmware for the quectel modem | 21:54 |
| rafael2k | then I'll have some motivation to understand a bit more what is going on when a call goes CSFB or VoLTE | 21:54 |
| buZz | rafael2k: they do on d4 ;) | 21:56 |
| buZz | iirc n900 aswell? | 21:56 |
| rafael2k | the default on PP is not this | 22:07 |
| rafael2k | do you remember the config file to set the actions for the volume buttons? | 22:07 |
| rafael2k | I remember I already changed them to open vkb, do crazy Xorg things, but can not remember its path | 22:08 |
| buZz | ehw, no not really, sorry | 22:10 |
| Wizzup | rafael2k: the bug report mentions it | 22:38 |
| Wizzup | rafael2k: oh, isn't that just hildon or mce? | 22:38 |
| missMyN900 | uvos: how do you feel about buying a brand new battery for a DB? Is it a good idea or is it better to buy a used one that has actually been charged? | 22:40 |
| missMyN900 | after some consideration I have dropped the idea of buying a T100TA; I would rather buy a new/open box DB | 22:41 |
| missMyN900 | so yeah I will probably sell my PP and buy a DB | 22:41 |
| missMyN900 | DB + HW8X is absolutely massive though; I love it, reminds me of my N900 <3 | 22:46 |
| norayr | Wizzup: so i am here, sorry wasn't here. But i understand if it's not convenient anymore. | 22:48 |
| missMyN900 | norayr: would you consider backporting elisa as I see you are on a packaging spree again :)? | 22:48 |
| missMyN900 | it is in chimaera repos | 22:49 |
| Wizzup | extras isn't really for backports | 22:49 |
| Wizzup | norayr: so what did you try so far? | 22:49 |
| Wizzup | norayr: all the steps here? https://github.com/MerlijnWajer/bionic-clown-boot/tree/solana | 22:49 |
| norayr | yes... but | 22:50 |
| norayr | the problem is | 22:50 |
| Wizzup | this flash script and android? https://maedevu.maemo.org/images/droid3/ | 22:50 |
| norayr | let me explain | 22:50 |
| norayr | yes | 22:50 |
| norayr | flash script from the wiki page. | 22:50 |
| Wizzup | the wiki doesn't link to one, does it? | 22:50 |
| norayr | yes yes from there | 22:51 |
| norayr | from https://maedevu.maemo.org/images/droid3/ | 22:51 |
| Wizzup | ok | 22:51 |
| norayr | so | 22:51 |
| norayr | i had android4 | 22:51 |
| norayr | and solana page mentions something about how up to date your system is | 22:51 |
| missMyN900 | Wizzup: oh nvm then | 22:51 |
| norayr | minute i'll open it and wiki and will be able to tell | 22:51 |
| norayr | but anyway, after i flushed it is now like android2 | 22:51 |
| Wizzup | missMyN900: we could do it depending how useful it is, but genrally better to foucs energy on porting -to- chimaera | 22:52 |
| norayr | i found an image like that on the internet, it says tap the droid to start | 22:52 |
| Wizzup | norayr: ok, so you used the exact android image on maedevu? | 22:52 |
| norayr | but when i tap on droid image it doesn't start. | 22:52 |
| norayr | yes | 22:52 |
| norayr | and no kexecboot | 22:52 |
| Wizzup | and you can't get past the boot screen where it asks for a sim? | 22:52 |
| missMyN900 | yes, that is what I thought at first but I learned that moving to Chimaera is a bit more difficult than I thought | 22:52 |
| norayr | i got android downgraded from 4 to 2 but no kexecboot | 22:52 |
| norayr | and i cannot use that android 2 for some reason either | 22:52 |
| norayr | to go to settings and do things | 22:52 |
| Wizzup | for some reason? | 22:52 |
| norayr | well probably i flushed images with that script that are android2 | 22:53 |
| Wizzup | I don't quite understand | 22:53 |
| norayr | i yeah | 22:53 |
| norayr | ok | 22:53 |
| norayr | so it says tap on droid image to start | 22:53 |
| Wizzup | you can flash the maedevu image, riht? | 22:53 |
| Wizzup | and you then get an android that doesn't let you go past some startup screen? | 22:53 |
| norayr | yes | 22:53 |
| Wizzup | ok, so there is some pattern that you have to press to get past it | 22:53 |
| Wizzup | it took me many attempts and probably more than a few minutes | 22:54 |
| Wizzup | it should be on youtube | 22:54 |
| Wizzup | it's just touching the corners clockwise, -I think- | 22:54 |
| norayr | i found similar image on ebay, it looks like this: https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/E~4AAOSwoHBitf0D/s-l1600.jpg | 22:54 |
| rafael2k | Wizzup: which bug report? | 22:54 |
| norayr | minute. | 22:54 |
| Wizzup | I might have done it in landscape or portrait | 22:54 |
| Wizzup | norayr: I just googled for this problem | 22:55 |
| Wizzup | and found the solution somewhere on youtube I think | 22:55 |
| Wizzup | maybe we need to add it to the doc | 22:55 |
| norayr | ok let me try to search | 22:57 |
| rafael2k | found | 22:57 |
| rafael2k | /usr/share/hildon-desktop/shortcuts.ini | 22:57 |
| missMyN900 | Wizzup: is all that also necessary for DB or only for D3? Sounds very complicated | 22:57 |
| rafael2k | [Shortcuts] | 22:57 |
| rafael2k | LeftButton=XF86AudioLowerVolume | 22:57 |
| rafael2k | RaiseVkb=XF86AudioRaiseVolume | 22:57 |
| rafael2k | but I'm not sure how to make the volume buttons really change the pa volumes... | 22:58 |
| Wizzup | missMyN900: would have to check | 22:58 |
| Wizzup | bbiab | 22:58 |
| norayr | ok the video said tap on four points of the screen and it'll take you to os. | 23:00 |
| norayr | it says 'communicating with server' and there was a rotating wheel | 23:01 |
| norayr | and now connection failed, complete the setup by setting up a wifi etc | 23:01 |
| norayr | let me try to skip it | 23:01 |
| norayr | but do i really really need the os to function? | 23:01 |
| norayr | ok i got it | 23:02 |
| norayr | i got android | 23:02 |
| norayr | minute i'll figure out the version of os | 23:02 |
| norayr | yeah, i was right: | 23:03 |
| norayr | Android 2.3.4 | 23:03 |
| norayr | it was 4.something. | 23:03 |
| rafael2k | Wizzup: who should do this automation, mce or hildon or anything else? | 23:03 |
| norayr | i cannot find 'usb debugging' on this android 2. is it there at all? do i need it? | 23:05 |
| norayr | tapping build number in 'about phone' doesn't help. | 23:07 |
| norayr | to bring 'you are a dev' | 23:07 |
| norayr | i got 'waiting for device' shell i run root234.sh in 'pc mode' or some other mode? | 23:10 |
| norayr | no 'usb debugging' found | 23:10 |
| norayr | no, i can only enter 'usb connection' setting by sliding from up to down and choose from 'pc mode', 'windows media sync', 'usb mass storage', 'charge'. | 23:13 |
| norayr | right now i try 'pc mode' | 23:13 |
| norayr | ok i found allow usb debugging in 'applications' | 23:14 |
| norayr | the root script rebooted the phone | 23:15 |
| norayr | rooted | 23:16 |
| norayr | rebooting second time | 23:16 |
| uvos | missMyN900: no idea really | 23:17 |
| uvos | the only datapoint i have is that the bw8x from 2012! has almost rated capacity (~2000mah versus 2200mah rated) | 23:17 |
| uvos | but i have only one of those | 23:17 |
| uvos | i also have 2 hw4x and 6x eb41 (same cell, different case), all of those have <60% rated capacity left | 23:18 |
| norayr | but i got things like Unable to chmod /system/bin/logwrapper: Read-only file system | 23:19 |
| norayr | is it ok? | 23:19 |
| uvos | no | 23:19 |
| norayr | shell i try to use install.sh in fastboot mode? | 23:19 |
| uvos | no | 23:20 |
| uvos | that cant work | 23:20 |
| uvos | usually if anything goes wrong your screwed | 23:20 |
| norayr | ok booting android again. | 23:20 |
| uvos | you have to reflash the stock android image | 23:20 |
| norayr | i sort of did, not purposefully. | 23:20 |
| norayr | i guess. | 23:20 |
| norayr | somehow. | 23:20 |
| norayr | ok trying again. | 23:21 |
| uvos | please follow the instrcutions extreamly carefully | 23:21 |
| uvos | its very very fagile | 23:21 |
| uvos | and i think your only the 3rd persion to ever do this | 23:21 |
| uvos | after Wizzup and me | 23:21 |
| buZz | 22:54:21 < Wizzup> it's just touching the corners clockwise, -I think- | 23:21 |
| buZz | i think that is in docs already? | 23:21 |
| uvos | yes thats correct | 23:21 |
| norayr | buZz: yeah it helped me. | 23:21 |
| uvos | it is for bionic | 23:21 |
| buZz | same on d4 | 23:22 |
| uvos | right but you dont need it on d4 | 23:22 |
| uvos | you do need it on bionic (if not upgraded to android 4+) and on d3 | 23:22 |
| buZz | oh, ok | 23:22 |
| uvos | (to install lexte) | 23:22 |
| uvos | *leste | 23:22 |
| uvos | or los | 23:23 |
| uvos | you would need it to use motorola android, not sure why you would want to over los | 23:23 |
| uvos | :P | 23:23 |
| buZz | welp, its the only android on my droid4's anyway :P | 23:23 |
| uvos | missMyN900: yes the bionic also has a convoluted install process (much better tested than d3 tho) | 23:25 |
| uvos | missMyN900: the d4 is unique in its very easy install process | 23:26 |
| uvos | (honestly easer then even n900's uboot ironicly) | 23:26 |
| norayr | i hope when it says 'prepare sd card' it doesn't do anything to my sdcard with leste. | 23:26 |
| buZz | nope, it doesnt | 23:26 |
| uvos | not unless you touch it | 23:26 |
| uvos | it then lets you do a format | 23:26 |
| uvos | obv thas bad :P | 23:26 |
| norayr | allowed 'unknown sources' and rooting again. | 23:30 |
| norayr | hope it'll help. | 23:30 |
| norayr | not able to boot it to recovery to reset device with vol up+vol down kes | 23:30 |
| norayr | yet | 23:30 |
| buZz | whats the goal? | 23:32 |
| norayr | no still 'unable to chmod' | 23:32 |
| norayr | i don't know i am trying to follow instructions to be able to install kexecboot | 23:32 |
| norayr | to boot leste from sdcard | 23:32 |
| missMyN900 | uvos: hmm interesting; thanks for sharing | 23:33 |
| buZz | norayr: then why are you rooting it? | 23:33 |
| buZz | its not really needed for leste, we arent using anything from android | 23:34 |
| uvos | buZz: thats not true for b3 or xt875 | 23:34 |
| uvos | *d3 | 23:34 |
| buZz | oh, i thought it was a d4 ^_^ | 23:35 |
| uvos | its a 3 | 23:35 |
| buZz | ahhhh | 23:35 |
| buZz | :D | 23:35 |
| norayr | i don't know. i am following this manual: https://github.com/MerlijnWajer/bionic-clown-boot/tree/solana | 23:35 |
| missMyN900 | uvos: is it a good idea to upgrade a DB to ICS or not? | 23:35 |
| uvos | ics is fine | 23:36 |
| buZz | ah yeah https://leste.maemo.org/Motorola_Droid_3 | 23:36 |
| missMyN900 | because I thought the whole problem was norayr's came with 4 | 23:36 |
| uvos | dont upgrade to 4.1 | 23:36 |
| missMyN900 | oh so no JB? | 23:36 |
| uvos | yeah jb ones are way more annoying | 23:36 |
| missMyN900 | well, if I buy a new one, it should be on 2.3.4 then :) | 23:36 |
| uvos | or ics | 23:36 |
| missMyN900 | that is another advantage | 23:36 |
| uvos | no they also came with ics later i think | 23:36 |
| uvos | but its not a problem | 23:37 |
| norayr | i cannot boot it to recovery | 23:37 |
| norayr | how do i do that? | 23:37 |
| norayr | i shut it down, then i press both volume buttons | 23:37 |
| norayr | then i press power | 23:37 |
| norayr | or maybe if i just press both volume buttons for longer it'll boot? | 23:37 |
| norayr | can i reset it from menu somehow? | 23:37 |
| uvos | no | 23:37 |
| uvos | norayr: press vol up hold, press vol down hold, press power, release power, release volume buttons | 23:39 |
| missMyN900 | only if you have CyanogenMod ;) | 23:39 |
| uvos | CyanogenMod? what decade are you from :P | 23:51 |
| missMyN900 | I know it is LineageOS now ;) I have used it | 23:53 |
| missMyN900 | I ran CyanogenMod on my first smartphone though (low-end Samsung) before I got my N900 | 23:53 |
| missMyN900 | back then Android was still somewhat interesting | 23:53 |
| missMyN900 | you could easily root CM and I overclocked my CPU to squeeze the most out of the 600 MHz ARMv6 processor :D | 23:54 |
| uvos | pff i had a d1 running at 1.1GHz | 23:54 |
| uvos | (for referance, stock is a omap3 at 550MHz :P) | 23:55 |
| missMyN900 | N900 was a glorious upgrade 320x240 -> 800x480 | 23:55 |
| missMyN900 | I was running at 700-800 MHz IIRC | 23:55 |
| uvos | the d1 even still works | 23:55 |
| missMyN900 | from like 140 mb memory or something to 32 GB | 23:55 |
| missMyN900 | RAM was the same (256 MB) | 23:55 |
| missMyN900 | but most importantly ARMv6 -> ARMv7 | 23:56 |
| missMyN900 | ARMv6 was always a second class citizen | 23:56 |
| missMyN900 | many apps were not compatible, even in the F-Droid store | 23:56 |
| missMyN900 | and with v7 you get NEON too (and with the N900 the TI DSP as well of course) | 23:56 |
| uvos | yeah the n900 and d1 are really simmular | 23:57 |
| uvos | (both based hevly on the ti referance platform) | 23:57 |
| uvos | the d1 has a mutch mutch nicer case tho | 23:58 |
| uvos | all metal | 23:58 |
| uvos | and i do mean all metal | 23:58 |
| missMyN900 | I also ran ICS on that Samsung, even though the last official upgrade was Gingerbread | 23:58 |
| missMyN900 | at first camera did not work because Qualcomm refused to release the OpenMAX drivers or something like that | 23:58 |
| missMyN900 | idk I was a noob back then | 23:58 |
| missMyN900 | just going off of what I read on XDA LOL | 23:58 |
| missMyN900 | but yeah, if I look at the situation with current Android phones compared to that super low-end phone, it is really sad | 23:59 |
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