| norayr | because sailfish apps are not portable and require sailfish qt classes. | 00:00 |
|---|---|---|
| norayr | so i managed to export data of sailauth and now i use | 00:00 |
| norayr | oathauthtool for 2fa. | 00:00 |
| norayr | now foilnotes remain. | 00:00 |
| norayr | probably i'll just copy/paste everything manually. but it's a lot of work. | 00:01 |
| norayr | and then nothing will tie me to sailfish anymore. i have it currently on pp, but never boot into it. | 00:01 |
| norayr | i always boot to maemo. i just copied those files of encrypted notes. | 00:01 |
| norayr | so i can open those. | 00:01 |
| * norayr remembers that it is necessary to port amazfish to maemo. it works with regular qt as well, the dev, piggz, prepared also pure qt interface. | 00:02 | |
| norayr | that's why it works under pmos. | 00:02 |
| norayr | amazfish is a software which works with many smartwatches. | 00:03 |
| xmn | I want to port mebble pebble client for maemo to mobian | 02:51 |
| buZz | xmn: cook :)) what is it? | 05:00 |
| buZz | cool* | 05:01 |
| xmn | hah, cook through me off :P | 05:01 |
| buZz | lol | 05:02 |
| buZz | threw* | 05:02 |
| buZz | #include <english> | 05:02 |
| buZz | lol | 05:02 |
| xmn | It's a simple pebble client written in python I believe | 05:02 |
| buZz | for the watch? | 05:03 |
| xmn | I just threw*up inmymouth :P | 05:03 |
| xmn | yeah for the watch | 05:03 |
| xmn | I use it every day for music, notifications and timer etc. | 05:03 |
| xmn | it works with ubports and sailfish and meamo | 05:04 |
| buZz | man, i sooo wish qtwebbrowser would just autosearch on urls that fail to load | 05:04 |
| buZz | nice xmn | 05:04 |
| buZz | i considered many watches since i loct my Seiko UC2000 , but they all seem lame/walledgardens | 05:05 |
| buZz | lost* | 05:05 |
| buZz | 'mebble pebble' isnt given a lot of hits | 05:06 |
| xmn | I never wanted a smart watch, until someone gave it to me and it worked with my n900. I don't really want any other watch so far or more features. | 05:06 |
| buZz | but, if its py3 already, you probably barely need to do any porting | 05:06 |
| buZz | gui is qt5 or gtk2? | 05:07 |
| xmn | yup, which work great fo me, since I'm not a programmer :P | 05:07 |
| xmn | all in terminal | 05:07 |
| buZz | UC2000 is awesome, mine came with 2 qwerty keyboards and a printer :D | 05:07 |
| xmn | nice | 05:08 |
| buZz | ah well, i'm not sure we have a real way to run terminal programs as 'apps' but i guess just wrap in osso-xterm | 05:08 |
| buZz | icon , .desktop file (iirc) , and maybe done | 05:09 |
| buZz | well, and then make it a .deb :P | 05:09 |
| buZz | thats rocketscience to me | 05:09 |
| xmn | yup exactly, you make an desktop icon and it will just launch a terminal | 05:09 |
| buZz | but there are many tools | 05:10 |
| buZz | (to make a .deb) | 05:10 |
| xmn | https://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=97591 | 05:11 |
| buZz | ah maebble | 05:13 |
| buZz | catchy name :P | 05:13 |
| buZz | is it actually more of a daemon/serveer? | 05:13 |
| buZz | -e | 05:13 |
| xmn | yupper | 05:14 |
| buZz | > A reminder that Maebble users need to manually toggle the settings.py when daylight savings begins and ends. | 05:16 |
| buZz | gah :D | 05:16 |
| xmn | yup That one of the few thing I helped with :) | 05:16 |
| buZz | ^_^ | 05:16 |
| xmn | a pain, but hey it an old watch and phone that nobody is maintaining except the users. | 05:17 |
| buZz | :) | 05:17 |
| sicelo | norayr: n900 usn is very easy to fix. it's the modem that can't be fixed | 05:39 |
| sicelo | *usb | 05:46 |
| SuperMarioSF | woah | 06:23 |
| SuperMarioSF | battery calibration completed | 06:23 |
| SuperMarioSF | it works | 06:23 |
| SuperMarioSF | max 1287mAh | 06:25 |
| SuperMarioSF | I guess it's time to have this replaced. | 06:25 |
| Wizzup | SuperMarioSF not sure if it really needs replacing | 09:46 |
| Wizzup | I think it's an underestimation | 09:50 |
| Wizzup | since we don't charge it completely fully | 09:51 |
| norayr | >mebble pebble client for maemo | 11:30 |
| norayr | xmn, i didn't know about it. will try to forward port it to leste. | 11:30 |
| norayr | >all seem lame/walledgardens | 11:31 |
| norayr | yes, unless you have an app like amazfish, which works with them. pinetime, also is by design free. | 11:31 |
| norayr | xmn, what's your type of pebble? i have classic and se2+hr. my friends use pebble times. | 11:32 |
| norayr | >if its py3 already | 11:32 |
| norayr | i doubt it, didn't see anything for the old maemo for py3. | 11:32 |
| norayr | >all in terminal | 11:32 |
| norayr | wow. | 11:32 |
| norayr | uc2000 - omg, i am impressed. how does it connect to the computer? com port? | 11:34 |
| norayr | under sailfish only pebble classic (and possibly time) is supported, pebble 2 uses bt lte, which doesn't work in sailfish for some reason. | 11:38 |
| norayr | buuut... amazfish author somehow bypassed the limitations on the app level. i don't understand how. but yes, amazfish needs to be ported, packaged. | 11:38 |
| norayr | hopefully it uses qt version available for beowulf. | 11:38 |
| norayr | it works with amazfit devices, as well as with pinewatch. | 11:39 |
| Wizzup | we have a happy pinetab user here :) | 12:33 |
| Wizzup | the orientation sensor doesn't work yet, but otherwise he's quite happy | 12:33 |
| Wizzup | says it is much more snappy than plamo on the device (not sure what they do) | 12:33 |
| Wizzup | I think we can probably make it a bit faster still, but it's not bad | 12:33 |
| Keeblo | Norayr, I think that you’re referring to a “Flat Flexible Cable” (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flexible_flat_cable) | 13:04 |
| freemangordon | Wizzup: maybe I shall start with that one (clutter) | 13:16 |
| Wizzup | freemangordon: if you want, I think it is quite low prio imho | 13:23 |
| freemangordon | will see | 13:28 |
| freemangordon | will be better than the nothing I do now :) | 13:28 |
| buZz | norayr: yes rs232 | 13:44 |
| buZz | 1287mAh at SuperMarioSF with the 4.2v limit is already really good | 13:45 |
| _uvos_ | droid4 with no 3d accell is plenty fast | 14:07 |
| _uvos_ | as long as you dont use hildon | 14:07 |
| _uvos_ | wifi bt needs you to load fw but has no dma access. the modems have no access to cpu ram | 14:09 |
| _uvos_ | there also is a closed source bootloader | 14:09 |
| _uvos_ | and as with any cpu, microcode | 14:10 |
| Wizzup | freemangordon: stable ofono on d4 would be great | 14:30 |
| buZz | oh thats a option? :D | 14:57 |
| buZz | hehe | 14:57 |
| buZz | Wizzup: did you notice , recently associating to GSM seems to have been gotten a lot longer? | 14:58 |
| buZz | from ~1 minute to ~10 now | 14:58 |
| buZz | at least for me , that is | 14:58 |
| buZz | the simcard icon disappears at similar speed (indicating ofono finished?) | 14:58 |
| buZz | but getting the '2G' icon in statusmenu from there, ~8 minutes is the fastest i got to see it | 14:59 |
| buZz | and only after getting those icons i can do my weird gprs-connection-dance (restart icd2, tap GPRS IAP in statusmenu, which fails, dont retry, do dhcp, done & working) | 14:59 |
| auanta | hello i am following the Pinephone install guide and would like to help improve it | 16:44 |
| freemangordon | Wizzup: ok, but my mood is like that I want to work on clutter | 16:44 |
| freemangordon | actually I think it should be an easy fix | 16:45 |
| buZz | a record! i got 2G icon within 6 minutes uptime this time :P | 16:49 |
| xmn | auanta you want to help improve the install guide or help improve the install process? | 17:21 |
| freemangordon | Wizzup: what was the hack that lima guys gave us? | 17:21 |
| xmn | I really need to erase and make dedicated sdcard for meamo-leste and a new one for mobian and sailffish and I guess kde plasma. | 17:23 |
| xmn | to give them all a real chance | 17:23 |
| Wizzup | freemangordon: ok, will look in the evening later | 17:38 |
| Wizzup | the patch nis in mesa | 17:38 |
| freemangordon | ok | 17:38 |
| freemangordon | I will find it | 17:38 |
| Wizzup | I think they said to use buffer age | 17:39 |
| freemangordon | yeah | 17:40 |
| freemangordon | that's what I am going to do | 17:40 |
| norayr | Keeblo, thank you didn't know the name. | 17:46 |
| norayr | Wizzup, how are the glaphics drivers of pinetab? | 17:46 |
| norayr | and power management? | 17:46 |
| auanta | i'm having trouble booting the latest image from sd card | 18:00 |
| auanta | i extracted the .img and dd'd it to the sd card | 18:01 |
| auanta | should i just try to build the image myself? | 18:02 |
| freemangordon | dammit, vbox xorg driver does not support EGL_EXT_buffer_age | 18:08 |
| freemangordon | or mesa or whatever | 18:08 |
| auanta | @xmn oops missed this msg, yes i want to improve the documentation - the guide | 18:09 |
| auanta | there are some parts that could be trimmed | 18:10 |
| auanta | and some things that need improvement like you shouldnt need to extract the image TO the SD card, it should be extracted within the Downloads directory on the computer and then dd'd to the DS card | 18:12 |
| auanta | *SD | 18:12 |
| auanta | i don't think the explanation of how to use dd is necessary? but maybe a reference to it or move the extra detail out of immediate view | 18:17 |
| auanta | https://leste.maemo.org/PinePhone#SD_Card_Installation | 18:17 |
| auanta | i also want to update our entry on the PinePhone wiki so i'll do that.. | 18:18 |
| auanta | but i also just wanna get my phone booted up! :D | 18:18 |
| auanta | in the meantime, testing the eMMC install instructions.. | 18:19 |
| * freemangordon upgrades his PP, lets hope it will still boot after that :) | 18:29 | |
| freemangordon | wth has happened with PP? it hangs every couple of seconds if screen is locked? does it suspend or what? | 18:42 |
| buZz | auanta: what device are you working on | 18:51 |
| buZz | ah pp | 18:51 |
| buZz | i didnt try a lot but just img > sd with xzcat worked for me | 18:51 |
| buZz | -maybe- pp needs fw updates before that works? not sure i only have a loaner | 18:52 |
| freemangordon | hmm, maybe uSD is failing | 18:55 |
| auanta | @buZz I have a PinePhone Braveheart edition | 18:59 |
| auanta | the old one | 18:59 |
| auanta | Actually I upgraded the board when explorer came out | 18:59 |
| auanta | i'll try xzcat | 19:00 |
| auanta | firmware updates? that doesn't sound like the usual workflow for pp | 19:00 |
| auanta | the only proprietary portion is the modem and i dont think i need to update that; apart from that it's just the OS image | 19:01 |
| auanta | could i use towboot to flash to eMMC or do i have to edit the image first? | 19:03 |
| auanta | wiki says edit the image, but the infomation also seems old | 19:04 |
| auanta | but this would be say for example if you want to set the root partition on the emmc and put /home on the sd | 19:06 |
| buZz | no clue which this is :P | 19:12 |
| buZz | you did use dd to write it? and made sure to write to card, not to partition? | 19:13 |
| * buZz just guessing | 19:13 | |
| buZz | someone rewrote dd in a electron app :D its so hilarious because it does break so often and also takes >2gb of ram | 19:13 |
| auanta | yes, to sdb not sdb1 | 19:15 |
| auanta | what in the.. | 19:15 |
| auanta | _why_ would anyone rewrite dd | 19:15 |
| auanta | lmao | 19:15 |
| auanta | whoa hold on.. i just booted | 19:16 |
| buZz | w00t | 19:16 |
| buZz | boot on pp does leave the screen black for a long time | 19:16 |
| buZz | might be a nice area of improving | 19:17 |
| auanta | i did remove the battery last night to keep it from discharging but i guess i just needed to give it a lil jump | 19:17 |
| auanta | or that.. maybe the screen | 19:17 |
| auanta | this is gorgeous though | 19:17 |
| buZz | :) | 19:19 |
| buZz | nokia really paid a lot of ppl for a slick gui | 19:20 |
| freemangordon | auanta: how do I know if I have braveheart or later? | 19:20 |
| freemangordon | ah, it is written :D | 19:20 |
| buZz | auanta: the rewrite is called etcher btw | 19:21 |
| auanta | which one did you buy? the phones had names depending when you bought them @freemangordon | 19:21 |
| freemangordon | on the piece of paper that's in the box | 19:21 |
| freemangordon | I didn't buy it | 19:21 |
| auanta | @buZz OH MY | 19:21 |
| freemangordon | they sent it to me | 19:21 |
| freemangordon | as a dev device | 19:21 |
| auanta | @freemangordon sweet :) | 19:21 |
| freemangordon | but I see "Congratulations on receiving our Brave Heart edition..." | 19:22 |
| freemangordon | auanta: anyway, do you see screen flickering on your device while it boots? | 19:22 |
| auanta | no.. let me reboot and see | 19:22 |
| freemangordon | weird | 19:23 |
| freemangordon | while it boots it flickers every time @ symbol is printed | 19:23 |
| freemangordon | flickering stops few seconds (5? 10?) before h-d appears | 19:23 |
| freemangordon | Wizzup: how do you think. is it enough to revert https://github.com/maemo-leste-upstream-forks/clutter-0.8/commit/6f753308446ff833d8c2713357cdc97d94dcb15b or I shall remove mesa hack? | 19:25 |
| freemangordon | hmm, I guess I can test | 19:25 |
| buZz | testing ftw :) | 19:25 |
| auanta | just rebooted and i do not see flickering | 19:26 |
| auanta | the image i'm using is from July 31 | 19:26 |
| auanta | and the pinephone board i did upgrade, so.. let me check.. | 19:26 |
| freemangordon | does not matter, this happens here since we moved to 5.15 | 19:27 |
| freemangordon | "upgrade"? | 19:27 |
| freemangordon | WTYM? | 19:27 |
| buZz | wdym* | 19:27 |
| buZz | :) | 19:27 |
| freemangordon | what do you mean | 19:28 |
| buZz | yeah, d, no t | 19:28 |
| auanta | lessee i bought a new mainboard august last year | 19:28 |
| auanta | what version would that be.. | 19:29 |
| freemangordon | ah, that could be it | 19:29 |
| freemangordon | maybe they fixed something | 19:29 |
| auanta | i think so. i hope so :P | 19:30 |
| auanta | there's no revision number in my records XD | 19:30 |
| freemangordon | anyway | 19:31 |
| buZz | maybe finally notifies OS of incoming call? | 19:31 |
| buZz | :P | 19:31 |
| auanta | i already ignore all my calls so thats fine lol | 19:31 |
| buZz | lol | 19:32 |
| freemangordon | hmm, something is broken, out of the blue commands in terminal stall for 20-30 seconds | 19:33 |
| freemangordon | uSD most-probably | 19:33 |
| buZz | ss | 19:34 |
| buZz | oops | 19:34 |
| auanta | honestly, this is better than mobian imo | 19:35 |
| buZz | auanta: also in 'millions of USD invested' ;) | 19:37 |
| auanta | like why use phosh when this is perfectly fine. but choice is good | 19:37 |
| auanta | keyboard needs a tab and arrow keys for the terminal though | 19:44 |
| auanta | oh we're still on beowulf... what happens if i dist-upgrade i wonder.. XD | 19:45 |
| freemangordon | ok, %iowait hits 99 | 19:51 |
| freemangordon | anybody else with braveheart here? | 19:54 |
| auanta | anyone tried the pinephone keyboard? i think i'll need one for this. editing configs is a little bit.. difficult | 19:54 |
| freemangordon | either my uSD card got broken while sitting in the drawer or recent kernel upgrade broke uSD card driver | 19:54 |
| auanta | @freemangordon do you have spare on hand to check? | 19:55 |
| freemangordon | I don;t think so | 19:55 |
| freemangordon | but I can put that one on uSD<->USB adapter and connect to the PC | 19:56 |
| auanta | +1 | 19:56 |
| freemangordon | yeah, iostat reports > 50% iowait all of the time | 19:56 |
| freemangordon | lets power cycle and retest first | 19:58 |
| freemangordon | I can't power it off even | 20:00 |
| auanta | i dont have that command.. but when i connect to the internet i'll install it | 20:02 |
| auanta | i'll say my phone feels hot | 20:03 |
| auanta | a bit too hot | 20:03 |
| freemangordon | yep, seem it is uSD card | 20:04 |
| auanta | man.. i can't connect to wifi. | 20:17 |
| freemangordon | reboot it | 20:20 |
| auanta | i did | 20:20 |
| Wizzup | pinephone wifi is also broken for me fwiw | 20:23 |
| Wizzup | on -devel | 20:23 |
| auanta | ok not just me.. well my image came from here https://maedevu.maemo.org/images/pinephone/ | 20:24 |
| auanta | where did yours? | 20:25 |
| freemangordon | hmm, after I connected the card to the PC, it somehow recovered | 20:27 |
| freemangordon | weird | 20:27 |
| auanta | does -devel mean you generated the image from git? | 20:28 |
| Wizzup | auanta: I think I have some pre release | 20:29 |
| Wizzup | auanta: no, the images are without devel | 20:29 |
| auanta | oh i c | 20:29 |
| Wizzup | auanta: the switch for wlan is ok yeah? | 20:29 |
| Wizzup | I saw unbalanced pm/pin msgs in dmesg for the wifi driver | 20:29 |
| freemangordon | Wizzup: here, after I upgraded to -devel I see no issues with wifi so far | 20:30 |
| freemangordon | ok, iowait jumped to 100% again | 20:30 |
| Wizzup | yeah,not sure how it works | 20:30 |
| Wizzup | freemangordon: I also have iowait issues, but that is on my d4 | 20:30 |
| Wizzup | I thought my usd is dying | 20:31 |
| freemangordon | ok, but I just connected that to my laptop nad fsck went with ~60MB/s read | 20:31 |
| Wizzup | d4 or pp? | 20:32 |
| freemangordon | I compile clutter ATM, but that should not put that much pressure on IO | 20:32 |
| freemangordon | PP | 20:32 |
| freemangordon | I would say this is kernel issue | 20:32 |
| freemangordon | lemme see if I can downgrade kernel | 20:33 |
| freemangordon | hmm, it recovered | 20:33 |
| auanta | the kill switch? it's in the on position. let me.. check dmesg. ah its too long. what should i grep. pin? | 20:33 |
| Wizzup | auanta: maybe just search for trace/error/warning | 20:34 |
| auanta | nothing seems amiss with wifi. only something about bluetooth and the audio. | 20:38 |
| freemangordon | Wizzup: seems downgrading kernel fixes the issue | 20:45 |
| freemangordon | yeah, -devel kernel is broken, at least on BH :( | 20:47 |
| freemangordon | Wizzup: just reverting the commit is enough | 20:50 |
| freemangordon | no, it is not | 20:51 |
| freemangordon | will have to rebuild mesa | 20:51 |
| norayr | auanta, did u do sync after dd? | 20:58 |
| auanta | whoops someone turned off the electricity without TELLING me.. got a backup wifi going so that explains something.. lol | 21:07 |
| auanta | and i missed all the messages.. | 21:08 |
| auanta | wifi works ok | 21:08 |
| auanta | just trying to see about installing to emmc and making the uSD a /home partition.. | 21:23 |
| Wizzup | auhah | 21:25 |
| Wizzup | auanta: hah, lol | 21:26 |
| auanta | the wiki says "The image, by default, points to /dev/mmcblk0 for SD cards, which must be modified to point to /dev/mmcblk2 for the eMMC." but i would argue that this need not be changed, since if it were installed to eMMC, then the eMMC would become mmcblk0 no? | 21:27 |
| freemangordon | BTW, how big is eMMC? | 21:29 |
| auanta | 32GB | 21:29 |
| freemangordon | ok | 21:29 |
| freemangordon | thanks | 21:29 |
| __20h__ | buZz, greetings. What's the IRC channel of the hackerspace of wageningen? | 23:36 |
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