| buZz | uvos: why were you banned? by who aswell | 00:20 |
|---|---|---|
| buZz | i dont think anyone was banned on this channel in age | 00:21 |
| buZz | s | 00:21 |
| buZz | 00:21:17 -!- 1 - #maemo-leste: ban *!*@p5deb579e.* [by helium.libera.chat, 6287076 secs ago] | 00:21 |
| buZz | pff | 00:21 |
| uvos | libera.chat banns me regularly | 00:21 |
| buZz | the webchat? | 00:21 |
| buZz | we could run our own, i guess | 00:21 |
| uvos | no from the servers | 00:22 |
| buZz | oh ok | 00:22 |
| uvos | i get banned because i share an ip address with all customers of my isp via carrier grade nat | 00:22 |
| uvos | and they keep on banning that ip | 00:22 |
| buZz | they do use DNSBL or some other list | 00:22 |
| buZz | i've been on it, its no fun getting removed | 00:22 |
| uvos | and then i have to go though the procedure to get it unbanned | 00:22 |
| uvos | this happens qutie regularly | 00:22 |
| uvos | yeah dronebl | 00:22 |
| buZz | idiot ip range? :P | 00:22 |
| buZz | i irc from such range | 00:23 |
| buZz | its just so cheap | 00:23 |
| uvos | well i could irc from my server 185.53.129.145 | 00:24 |
| uvos | but its lame | 00:24 |
| uvos | i dont want to have to do that | 00:24 |
| Wizzup | wb | 00:50 |
| norayr | i irc via my xmpp to irc gateway. the software is called biboumi. | 00:57 |
| Wizzup | buZz: with ifconfig wlan0 down it seems better | 01:18 |
| buZz | might be a bug in the driver or something | 01:37 |
| freemangordon | sicelo: yes, missing extcon | 07:08 |
| sicelo | i think i haven't been following this extcon work well enough, but i'm a little confused now - i think the aim was to do charger detection on droid 4? i understand this does work on N900 (broken in 5.19+ due to the irq issue however) ... so i'm not sure i understand why hacks will be needed for it now | 08:56 |
| sicelo | and of course, nice to have it working on Droid 4 too | 08:57 |
| freemangordon | sicelo: it is about ke-recv having hardcoded paths that are device specific | 08:58 |
| freemangordon | if we use extcon, the only device that will need such hardcoded paths will remain n900 | 08:58 |
| freemangordon | I refer to it as a 'hack' because... it is a hack :) | 08:59 |
| freemangordon | see https://github.com/maemo-leste/ke-recv/blob/master/src/udev-helper.c#L67 | 09:00 |
| sicelo | what will the others have? :-) | 09:04 |
| sicelo | sorry for silly questions | 09:04 |
| * sicelo is surprised to see musb-hdrc in the pinephone and lime listings. didn't think it was used outside of omap | 09:08 | |
| freemangordon | it seems to be used all over the place :) | 09:17 |
| freemangordon | the others will have nothing, like, code will use extcon and will try to find the appropriate cables | 09:17 |
| Wizzup | buZz: ifconfig did not help with crackles | 10:45 |
| Wizzup | maybe lower sample rate | 10:45 |
| Wizzup | will keep looking | 10:45 |
| norayr | interesting, my droid, when i left it to charge overnight, in the morning was full and reported 10 hours to empty. now it has 87% of the charge and reports 30.5 hours to empty. | 11:02 |
| sicelo | when it has 30% charge, it will be 200 hours to empty :p | 11:05 |
| Wizzup | when charging I don't think it tries to go in lowest power saving | 11:10 |
| sicelo | i think he was no longer charging when it reported 10 hours ... there shouldn't be TTE while charging, only TTF | 11:13 |
| Wizzup | upower averages | 11:17 |
| Wizzup | freemangordon: ofono is using 100% cpu, anything I can do/check? | 11:21 |
| Wizzup | hmmm upower uses a lot too | 11:21 |
| Wizzup | it seems epoll keeps returning | 11:23 |
| Wizzup | damn, it exited when I left gdb | 11:24 |
| uvos | Wizzup: pretty mutch 100% sure cracles are caused by pulseaudio | 12:31 |
| uvos | they are not there if you use plain alsa or pipewire | 12:31 |
| uvos | while they are there on every output device with pulse | 12:31 |
| uvos | incl wired and bt | 12:32 |
| Wizzup | mhm | 12:32 |
| Wizzup | so one of the reasons I was thinking of debian testing was pipewire | 12:32 |
| Wizzup | (as opposed to chimaera) | 12:32 |
| uvos | load-module module-udev-detect tsched=0 helps a bit btw | 12:34 |
| uvos | more siginifcantly for wired than bt | 12:35 |
| Wizzup | as in, if we go for testing, we might get better pipewire | 12:37 |
| uvos | sure | 12:37 |
| uvos | appearently you want to skip to testing :P | 12:38 |
| Wizzup | for bt in leste we also need to set teh default class to phone I think | 12:38 |
| uvos | best configure this in leste-config per device | 12:38 |
| Wizzup | well bookworm is mid-2023, so maybe it's too far out | 12:38 |
| Wizzup | uvos: right | 12:38 |
| Wizzup | assuming we can dump random files in /etc/bluebooth/*.conf | 12:38 |
| uvos | dont see why not | 12:39 |
| Wizzup | maybe there needs to be an order in which it is read | 12:39 |
| Wizzup | so debian 11 does have pipewire 0.3.19 | 12:40 |
| Wizzup | I use pipewire 0.3.56 on my laptop | 12:40 |
| Wizzup | I think that unless we build pipewire ourselves for chimaera, we can probably forget about it | 12:41 |
| Wizzup | but maybe that's not a problem | 12:41 |
| uvos | i dont think there is anything wrong with pulse persay (asside from the crackles bug that may be gohne in newer versions anyhow) | 12:46 |
| uvos | besides pulse and pw are compataibil, we arnt doing anything rn that dosen work just the same with pw (in theroy) | 12:46 |
| uvos | so i dont see swiching to pw to be a big priority atm | 12:47 |
| Wizzup | uvos: ok | 12:59 |
| Wizzup | agreed | 12:59 |
| Wizzup | I will not bring up daedaelus for some months now | 12:59 |
| Wizzup | promise | 12:59 |
| Wizzup | uvos: well I guess the echo cancel eating up cpu all the time in pulse was annoying, but there's probably a fix for that | 13:30 |
| uvos | also is this still the case in up to date pa? | 13:40 |
| Wizzup | yes | 13:42 |
| Wizzup | i am looking at mpris atm | 13:42 |
| Wizzup | I think when I next get to my car, I will be able to control mpd or mpv using the car | 13:43 |
| Wizzup | I'll do a write up | 13:43 |
| Wizzup | and then also help pali with serial today :) | 13:43 |
| sicelo | thank you | 13:57 |
| sicelo | while messing with serial, may also want to do the other test for tmlind (compaction) | 13:59 |
| Wizzup | please share some info and I'll try that too | 14:00 |
| Wizzup | I haven't been keeping up with the mailing list | 14:00 |
| sicelo | it's the really old one ... i think you said compaction didn't make a difference, but now that you will have serial, at least to confirm and reply :-) | 14:03 |
| sicelo | let me see if i can find the mail quickly | 14:04 |
| Wizzup | oh, the wakeups | 14:04 |
| Wizzup | I am not sure if I can do that today | 14:05 |
| Wizzup | it's not trivial | 14:05 |
| Wizzup | but it's a good reminder | 14:05 |
| sicelo | Subject: [tony@atomide.com: Re: Nokia N900 not hitting OFF mode since 5.9 is caused by proactive memory compaction] | 14:11 |
| Wizzup | bt+mpris works in my car | 14:19 |
| Wizzup | metadata and play/stop/next/prev | 14:19 |
| Wizzup | with mpd in this case | 14:19 |
| buZz | Wizzup: nice! | 14:42 |
| buZz | Wizzup: using mpris-proxy? or does it work native | 14:48 |
| Wizzup | mpris-proxy I think | 16:10 |
| Wizzup | I think one of the mpris things makes the x session hang ;) | 16:14 |
| Wizzup | great | 16:14 |
| freemangordon | Wizzup: what about using /sys/class/udc ? | 17:00 |
| freemangordon | also, do we plan to support more than one USB connector? | 17:01 |
| Wizzup | I don't know if I want to think about multiple connectors now | 17:01 |
| Wizzup | I just rescued my d4, it was unhappy and not booting because of a full disk, all of it was basically the kernel log spam when the modem disappears | 17:01 |
| freemangordon | oh | 17:01 |
| Wizzup | not sure if it's flaky hw, or if it is related to my bluetooth experiments | 17:02 |
| freemangordon | Wizzup: why ke-recv unbinds gadget driver if CDP or DCP cable is connected? | 19:58 |
| freemangordon | this happens on startup only | 20:00 |
| Wizzup | is this the init script? | 20:14 |
| freemangordon | I guess no | 20:15 |
| freemangordon | but I don;t know who controls gadgetfs | 20:15 |
| freemangordon | is that a script? | 20:15 |
| freemangordon | Wizzup: where is gadgetfs controlled? | 20:19 |
| sicelo | i believe that's hildon-usb-gadgets? unless i misunderstood the question ... | 20:24 |
| * sicelo hides | 20:24 | |
| freemangordon | oh | 20:25 |
| freemangordon | https://github.com/maemo-leste/ke-recv/blob/master/src/ke-recv.c#L663 | 20:25 |
| freemangordon | why do we want to always enter PC_SUITE mode? | 20:25 |
| freemangordon | what if we are charging at the moment? | 20:25 |
| sicelo | to get usbnet :-) | 20:25 |
| freemangordon | while connected to a wall charger? | 20:25 |
| freemangordon | I don;t think so | 20:26 |
| sicelo | there's a comment somewhere that there should always be a gadget loaded. not sure why that's the case though | 20:26 |
| freemangordon | yes, there should be | 20:26 |
| freemangordon | but, we shall load one only if there is none loaded already | 20:26 |
| sicelo | makes sense. anyway i think right now, mass storage doesn't work, so only usbnet | 20:28 |
| uvos | its probubly never desirable to get mass storage to work on leste... | 21:38 |
| rafael2k | don't say this | 22:01 |
| rafael2k | :P | 22:01 |
| rafael2k | last time I tried it was working I think, in the PP, need to test again | 22:02 |
| rafael2k | (after usb-net got working again in the PP) | 22:03 |
| sicelo | worked from just pressing on the prompt? at least didn't work for me on d4 the few times i pressed it ... it's not functionality i really need, so i didn't look into it further | 22:04 |
| rafael2k | what does it mean pressing on the prompt? mount .... - yes | 22:04 |
| sicelo | when you connect a cable to device and pc, you get asked to choose between Mass Storage and PC Suite modes. | 22:05 |
| rafael2k | ah, ok ok, I understood when I connect a pendrive to the phone | 22:05 |
| rafael2k | I can mount it | 22:05 |
| rafael2k | not as gadget mode | 22:05 |
| rafael2k | sorry, got the conversation mid-way | 22:06 |
| sicelo | np :-) | 22:06 |
| rafael2k | indeed, no need for a phone appear as mass storage | 22:07 |
| freemangordon | uvos: why? what's wrong with mass-storage? | 22:46 |
| sicelo | exposing 'raw' fs/partition to a foreign device is considered unsafe nowadays. it's considered better to expose it over a protocol/api that allows the host device to retain full control of access and activity on the partition/fs | 22:51 |
| sicelo | --> mtp on android | 22:51 |
| freemangordon | I see | 22:52 |
| freemangordon | does mtp work reliably nowadays? | 22:52 |
| sicelo | no idea since i hardly use it. but i think it does work fine, yes | 22:53 |
| freemangordon | what about the speed, any clue? | 22:53 |
| sicelo | no, sorry :-) | 22:54 |
| Wizzup | (sorry, crazy busy day) | 23:10 |
| freemangordon | Wizzup: https://github.com/maemo-leste/ke-recv/pull/4 | 23:11 |
| freemangordon | tested on d4 only | 23:11 |
| freemangordon | with extcon and wiith -devel kernel | 23:12 |
| * sicelo powers up d4 to update | 23:18 | |
| freemangordon | sicelo: hmm? | 23:21 |
| freemangordon | this is PR only | 23:21 |
| freemangordon | neither is the new kernel in the repos | 23:22 |
| sicelo | ah, i was wondering :p | 23:22 |
| freemangordon | I am still waiting for some feedback on several patches I have sent for upstreaming | 23:23 |
| freemangordon | when (and if :( ) I get feedback I will push kernel stuff and maube we'll have a new release | 23:24 |
| freemangordon | *maybe | 23:24 |
| * sicelo is busy with other things, otherwise i'm curious to build this for n900 and see what happens ... although i don't expect any issue | 23:26 | |
| freemangordon | me neither, but it would be good if somebody confirms I didn't break n900 | 23:27 |
| sicelo | i still didn't fully understand the extcon stuff we discussed earlier ... but what key things would i test? of course charging, what else? | 23:28 |
| freemangordon | USB ethernet | 23:29 |
| sicelo | ok. have ke-recv debs to share maybe? | 23:30 |
| freemangordon | sec | 23:30 |
| * sicelo looks for leste n900 sd card | 23:30 | |
| freemangordon | sicelo: http://46.249.74.23/leste/ke-recv_4.5.9_armhf.deb | 23:32 |
| Wizzup | freemangordon: we have your patches in -devel? | 23:32 |
| Wizzup | (for kernel) | 23:32 |
| freemangordon | I don;t think so | 23:32 |
| Wizzup | because you said: | 23:33 |
| Wizzup | 23:12 < freemangordon> with extcon and wiith -devel kernel | 23:33 |
| sicelo | thanks. let me install and see .. will be a moment though, since battery depleted | 23:33 |
| freemangordon | I am still waiting for feedback from upstream on how to fix the mess with usb phy notifiers | 23:33 |
| Wizzup | but I guess the ke-recv stuff works regardless of kernel changes? | 23:33 |
| freemangordon | that's what I tested - with extcon/cpcap-charger changes and with the kernel in -devel | 23:33 |
| Wizzup | we can merge the ke-recv changes into -devel | 23:34 |
| freemangordon | I mean that I tested with both kernels | 23:34 |
| Wizzup | and see if it works for pp etc | 23:34 |
| freemangordon | well, I requested a review from you, if you are happy with the commit, merge and release | 23:34 |
| freemangordon | I can do as well | 23:35 |
| freemangordon | just LMK | 23:35 |
| sicelo | now i remember my n900 installation has some unresolved issues: | 23:47 |
| sicelo | pkg: error processing package gconf2 (--configure): | 23:48 |
| sicelo | dependency problems - leaving triggers unprocessed | 23:48 |
| sicelo | dpkg: dependency problems prevent processing triggers for gconf2: | 23:48 |
| sicelo | gconf2 depends on default-dbus-session-bus | dbus-session-bus; however: | 23:48 |
| sicelo | Package default-dbus-session-bus is not installed. | 23:48 |
| sicelo | Package dbus-session-bus is not installed. | 23:48 |
| sicelo | Package dbus-x11 which provides dbus-session-bus is not configured yet. | 23:48 |
| sicelo | then apt quits because too many gconf2 errors | 23:48 |
| Wizzup | sicelo: I had this the other day, I search logs and rafael said to remove dbus-x11 and then to install it again by force | 23:58 |
| Wizzup | I did this with dpkg | 23:58 |
| Wizzup | (installing the cached .deb) | 23:58 |
| Wizzup | we should probably figure out what causes this | 23:58 |
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