libera/#maemo/ Wednesday, 2020-12-09

ceenehi guys!07:48
ceenesicelo: poor Yappari :(08:11
sicelo:-)08:11
siceloyeah08:11
ceenethere's no alternative whatsapp client working anymore, is it?08:12
sicelobut, perhaps your UI can be use by Maemo Leste for SMSes, Telegram, etc08:12
ceeneit would be a nice GUI for Telegram indeed08:13
siceloceene: yes doesn't seem to be. in the linux world, people who need whatsapp typically use anbox nowadays08:13
ceenei tried anbox long long ago and couldn't get it to work08:14
ceeneit works now?08:14
siceloseems it works. at least on yt a couple of videos show whatsapp running in it on the pinephone08:15
ceenecool08:17
ceenejust yesterday I installed Leste in one of my N900, and upgraded the easydebian installation on the other08:17
ceeneI assume Anbox won't run on the N90008:17
sicelodue to ram, unlikely. someone got it working on droid 4 however, at least as POC08:21
ceeneoh, it exists on devuan on apt08:26
ceenei'll have to try it08:26
siceloYeah08:36
sicelobtw in Leste is qt5, not qt4, but surely the porting won't be difficult08:36
ceeneand now  they've released qt609:20
ceenewe're always behind09:20
sicelo:P09:21
sicelowell, leste likely can upgrade to qt6 as well09:21
clortleste  is  beste!10:17
bencohyou'd android kernel bits for anbox to work, by the way10:26
bencoh(either as a module, or enabled builtin)10:27
clorthow is compatibility and speed vs something like alien dalvik10:30
CatButts~sb16:12
infobotscratchbox is probably a cross-compiling system that uses binfmt_misc, rpc calls, and an nfs mount to make a cross-build appear to be 100% native, and is found at http://www.scratchbox.org/, hosted by maemo now. Also at http://maemo.merlin1991.at/files/SB16:12
CatButtsif I want to extract headers and libs for compiling maemo5 applications, is server vm image fine too, or is desktop one absolutely necesary?16:18
PaliIIRC X11 is needed only in case you want to run GUI X11 applications16:28
Paliif your "compilation process" does not require to use X11, you do not need X11 desktop at all16:29
bencohI've worked with a headless vm only for years :)16:30
CatButtsdoes X11 presence also imply headers for compiling N900 applications?16:30
bencoh?16:31
CatButtsdoes X11 being present or not in image affect my ability to compile N900 apps that may depend on X11?16:32
bencohyou can do anything you want/need with a headless image16:32
CatButtsah, so server image has all I would need16:32
bencohyeah16:33
bencohiirc I manually installed scratchbox on a headless debian vm back then16:33
CatButtsI'm gonna try my hand at a headers+libs onto a windows hosted ARM crosscompiler16:34
bencohside question, but ... do you enjoy suffering? :]16:35
CatButtsmaybe16:35
bencohoh, this explains that I guess ;>16:35
CatButtsI wouldn't be running windows XP if I didn't!16:35
* bencoh nods16:35
KotCzarnyxp is fine16:37
CatButtsalthough, last time I tried years ago, I remember there was at least 1 pair of headers that were named almost the same, with different capitalization16:37
KotCzarnyif you've said winme, then you would be right16:37
KotCzarnyxp supports ntfs16:38
KotCzarnywhich has case sensitive fs16:38
KotCzarnybut why not just run linux in virtualbox or something?16:38
KotCzarnyyou have vm image already16:38
KotCzarnyjust boot it16:38
KotCzarnykinda obvious16:39
CatButtsI want to compile a linux application with a batch file, so I can take revenge on all those codebases for compiling crossplatform/windows, where you have config sh scripts and makefiles laced with linux commands16:41
CatButtstake that!16:41
KotCzarnyyou should just get a work, you have too much time16:41
KotCzarnys/work/job/16:41
infobotKotCzarny meant: you should just get a job, you have too much time16:41
CatButtswhat GCC version is the one that comes by default with the SDK?16:44
CatButts4.something16:44
KotCzarny4.216:44
CatButtsok, time to suffer16:59
CatButtsfor starters, there seem to be multiple names, such as AArch32 AArch64, eabi gnueabi gnueabi-hf17:00
CatButtsI probably want gnueabi one17:00
CatButtswhat of AArch?17:01
CatButtshttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AArch64 ah ok, so past N900's capabilities, if this recent(2011)17:05
sicelo>> you should just get a job, you have too much time << :-D17:06
CatButts> armeb-linux-gnueabi17:19
CatButtsoh, it gets slightly more complicated17:20
CatButtsARM is bi-endianess, right?17:20
CatButtsbut software/OS can be compiled for either17:20
CatButtswhat endianess is Maemo?17:20
CatButtsI suspect LE, but it doesn't hurt to ask17:22
bencohLE17:27

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