rhombus | Hi everybody | 23:09 |
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rhombus | The N900 I have been using since March 2017 has signs of a fault. The screen spontaneously lights up. | 23:11 |
rhombus | I think it might be an issue with the slider switch. I dropped the phone while it was open about 10 days ago. | 23:11 |
rhombus | Has anyone seen this before? Do you have any advice? | 23:13 |
rhombus | ... and while I'm at it, I wanted to ask: What's the status of the Neo900 project? | 23:13 |
rhombus | Oh, sorry. I just read the status post. | 23:19 |
rhombus | That's a shame. | 23:19 |
sixwheeledbeast | I believe the slider has a magnet to trigger open close state. | 23:39 |
rhombus | sixwheeledbeast:let me be more precise about what I am observing | 23:40 |
rhombus | sixwheeledbeast: so i often activate the screen with the small slider switch on the right hand side of the device | 23:40 |
sixwheeledbeast | that is the lockswitch | 23:41 |
rhombus | ah, ok | 23:41 |
rhombus | That is the switch that seems to be misbehaving | 23:41 |
rhombus | but I can't be sure | 23:41 |
sixwheeledbeast | if you open the keyboard slider the same thing would happen too | 23:42 |
rhombus | right | 23:42 |
rhombus | ok, so I just pulled on the lockswitch | 23:42 |
rhombus | and the screen lit up for about three seconds, then went dark again | 23:42 |
rhombus | did it again and the screen stayed illuminated for only one second | 23:42 |
sixwheeledbeast | Maybe you can log the state of the hardware inputs to check correct operation | 23:43 |
sixwheeledbeast | screen timeout should be consistent | 23:43 |
rhombus | that's why I suspect that the hardware is receiving a signal, I don't think this is a timeout | 23:44 |
rhombus | I also get the opposite behaviour sometimes | 23:44 |
rhombus | The screen is lit, then I lock it, then it spontaneously lights up again | 23:44 |
sixwheeledbeast | It could be possible that the light sensor is changing the backlight? | 23:45 |
rhombus | hmn | 23:45 |
rhombus | Would I expect the screen to go dark if I cover the light sensor? | 23:45 |
sixwheeledbeast | It depends on what is happening, there is a difference between screen backlight and a blank locked screen | 23:45 |
rhombus | Even if I am not calling? | 23:45 |
sixwheeledbeast | yes light sensor controls display backlight | 23:46 |
sixwheeledbeast | and also disables screen in a call | 23:46 |
rhombus | ok, if so, it's not having any effect on my phone | 23:46 |
rhombus | a dumb question -- this phone doesn't have two cameras, does it? The eye I see on the display side is the light sensor, correct? | 23:47 |
sixwheeledbeast | if you make a call and cover the light sensor with your thumb it should blank the screen | 23:47 |
sixwheeledbeast | front and back cameras | 23:47 |
rhombus | yes, that worked the last I checked (blanking during call) | 23:47 |
rhombus | ah | 23:47 |
rhombus | how do i use the back camera? | 23:48 |
sixwheeledbeast | light sensor is the smaller blob to the side of the camera | 23:48 |
sixwheeledbeast | back camera is behind the slide cover | 23:48 |
rhombus | ok, sorry, the front camera then :) | 23:48 |
rhombus | how do I use the front camera? | 23:48 |
sixwheeledbeast | not much uses it | 23:49 |
rhombus | so the regular camera app doesn't use it? | 23:49 |
sixwheeledbeast | video calling and there was a mirror app at some point. It's pretty pants camera. | 23:49 |
sixwheeledbeast | no | 23:49 |
rhombus | ok, I just locked the phone, put it down, and after about 5 seconds, it lit up again and remains lit | 23:50 |
sixwheeledbeast | you can likely call the video output from a terminal somehow. | 23:50 |
rhombus | ok, now it is gone dark again | 23:50 |
rhombus | this is reminiscent of a loose contact | 23:50 |
sixwheeledbeast | blank or backlight off? | 23:50 |
rhombus | blank, as far as I can tell | 23:51 |
sixwheeledbeast | if it's completely blank I would assume the slider switch or keyboard slider | 23:52 |
rhombus | I did drop the phone while it was open about 10 days ago, but I didn't notice this problem until today | 23:53 |
sixwheeledbeast | if you do the same but when it lights up tap the screen and see if it blanks | 23:53 |
rhombus | so unlock it and then when it lights up, tap the screen? | 23:53 |
sixwheeledbeast | If it's the keyboard the display will not lock if it's the lockswitch it will lock | 23:53 |
sixwheeledbeast | lock it, when it does the fault of unlocking itself tap the screen | 23:54 |
rhombus | ah, ok | 23:54 |
rhombus | hang on | 23:54 |
rhombus | ok, I just locked it, and then about two seconds later the screen flickered about 5 times in succession | 23:55 |
sixwheeledbeast | you would need to tap the screen while it's lit up. | 23:56 |
rhombus | ok, I just locked it again, then it lit up, when I tapped the screen, the desktop settings widget appeared in the upper right hand corner | 23:56 |
sixwheeledbeast | and the device hasn't locked itself again? | 23:56 |
rhombus | If by locking you mean the screen going blank and not responding to input, it does do that if I wait long enough | 23:57 |
sixwheeledbeast | yes but that will be the lock timeout like 30 seconds? | 23:58 |
rhombus | it's more like 10 | 23:59 |
sixwheeledbeast | I mean the device doesn't lock and unlock itself quickly like the fault anyway | 23:59 |
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