| rwp | Yes. chkconfig originated with SGI IRIX. And I have found it useful too. Unfortunately it has been declared obsolete and removed. :-( | 01:01 |
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| pungentweasel | are there any pages on the website I'm not seeing that explain anything about daedalus? I assume it is a pre-release of the next version following sequential B,C,D.. naming. But I can't find much of anything about it, or about devuan's release schedules | 01:23 |
| pungentweasel | ah, nevermind .. I finally found a description on this page. https://www.devuan.org/os/documentation/dev1fanboy/en/general-information.html | 01:25 |
| golinux | pungentweasel: https://www.devuan.org/os/releases has info also. | 01:38 |
| pungentweasel | thanks, I missed that one | 01:49 |
| xisop | if i wanted to check support for a specific video card, where should i go for that info? | 01:50 |
| gnarface | the most up-to-date info is always in the help text associated with the driver module in the kernel source for whatever kernel version you're using | 01:52 |
| gnarface | someone mentioned some other consolidation of that information somewhere but i don't remember it | 01:53 |
| gnarface | the kernel source will always be the most up-to-date | 01:53 |
| xisop | okay | 01:53 |
| gnarface | you might try the linux-doc package too | 01:54 |
| gnarface | which particular video card is it you're looking for? | 01:54 |
| gnarface | hmm, the xorg website might have listings as well | 01:55 |
| gnarface | some of the projects like nouveau also have their own comprehensive feature listings | 01:58 |
| gnarface | kernel.org might have something other than the contents of the linux-doc package not sure | 01:59 |
| gnarface | i think nvidia keeps a list in their README.txt file | 02:01 |
| xrogaan | trying to install libatk1.0-dev, but I'm being injured by backports: | 02:11 |
| xrogaan | libatk1.0-dev : Depends: libatk1.0-0 (= 2.36.0-2) but 2.38.0-1~bpo11+1 is to be installed | 02:11 |
| xrogaan | I don't understand | 02:12 |
| gnarface | looks like you need the libatk dev package from backports as well, because you already got the libatk from backports | 02:12 |
| xrogaan | aah | 02:12 |
| xrogaan | I'm a dummy | 02:13 |
| xrogaan | trying to create my own backports | 02:29 |
| xrogaan | can't get the sources of mangohud | 02:29 |
| xrogaan | When using 'apt source mangohud/testing', it errors out with E: Can not find version '0.6.1-1' of package 'mangohud' | 02:29 |
| xrogaan | because 0.6.1-1 is the stable version. testing is 0.6.8 | 02:30 |
| xrogaan | already managed to backport goverlay. So I'm being confused. | 02:30 |
| xrogaan | oh, it's not in main | 02:31 |
| gnarface | xisop: which video card? | 02:35 |
| xrogaan | nope, not it. | 02:38 |
| xrogaan | ok, had to specify the version itself. | 02:44 |
| onefang | Hmmm, Marking runit-helper for removal wants to remove irqbalance, openssh-server, and tor. Think I'll keep it. | 04:19 |
| u-amarsh04 | glad that https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=1023525 has been closed by mozc (2.28.4715.102+dfsg-2.1) unstable; | 08:06 |
| u-amarsh04 | bug described as: "When using ibus-mozc in x11 sessions, the candidate window is empty." | 08:07 |
| ___used | What's the plan on fixing 3.0.17-xx vlc by upgrading to 3.0.18 in Beowulf? I see nothing gets backported? ref: https://www.videolan.org/security/sb-vlc3018.html?cve=title | 11:30 |
| ___used | Additionally, on packages.debian.org, there is no mention of this cve in Buster vlc 3.0.17 compilation notes, in despite of the 3.0.17 Buster/Beowulf package being updated (minor) 2-3 days ago. | 11:31 |
| ___used | Are they addressing the exploit for 3.0.17 in a minor update (already happened?) or??! | 11:31 |
| onefang | Ask Debian, we don't fork VLC, so you get the exact same versions Debian does. | 11:34 |
| ___used | Do Devuan users get flamed on #debian ? | 12:59 |
| TwistedFate | Hello | 13:29 |
| pungentweasel | anyone in here familiar with gnuinos? the netinstall has a screen for software selection. one of the options is "console productivity", but I can't find any information about exactly what that installs.. that option is so vague | 16:24 |
| pungentweasel | nor can I find any source code where this option is defined | 16:29 |
| golinux | pungentweasel: It is a collection of tools needed to work in console | 16:34 |
| pungentweasel | yes but I'm trying to find out WHAT tools that includes :P | 16:34 |
| debdog | pungentweasel: e.g. "aptitude show task-console-productivity" | 16:35 |
| golinux | I don't know that I've ever seen a definitive list. | 16:35 |
| debdog | https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=11021#p11021 | 16:35 |
| golinux | debdog to the rescue! | 16:35 |
| * debdog cheated | 16:35 | |
| golinux | I searched both ML and nada | 16:36 |
| golinux | Haven't searched the logs of this channel though | 16:36 |
| FatPhil | aptitude is heavyweight, just use apt-cache show | 16:43 |
| pungentweasel | thanks golinux! | 16:46 |
| pungentweasel | er | 16:46 |
| pungentweasel | debdog, | 16:46 |
| golinux | Ome comments from a search in the logs of this channel: | 16:49 |
| golinux | removing console productivity nuked dns | 16:49 |
| golinux | console productivity seems to be everything and the kitchen sink. Stuff like mc, gpm, links, what not | 16:49 |
| golinux | http://reisenweber.net/irclogs/libera/_devuan/ | 16:49 |
| pungentweasel | and a package called fbi... lol | 16:50 |
| * pungentweasel squints suspiciously | 16:50 | |
| golinux | Have fun! A complete list may be in there somewhere . . . | 16:50 |
| pungentweasel | irc logs are helpful thank you golinux | 16:53 |
| golinux | debdog posted a complete list on the forum a few lines above | 16:54 |
| golinux | https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=11021#p11021 | 16:54 |
| pungentweasel | yep I looked at it | 16:54 |
| golinux | https://pkginfo.devuan.org/cgi-bin/policy-query.html?c=package&q=task-console-productivity&x=submit | 16:55 |
| golinux | Found it once I learned exactly what to search for | 16:56 |
| * golinux needs food . . . | 16:56 | |
| pungentweasel | yep, I'm there looking too.. it would be nice if the installer had a help page to better describe the software options | 16:59 |
| pungentweasel | even the "web server" option on the installer could use some clarification, since the user doesn't know which web server software is being installed, which is rather important to know | 17:00 |
| golinux | How about you write one and post it to the forum. I can sticky it. :D | 17:14 |
| golinux | We can probably find other places to post it also | 17:15 |
| golinux | Don't know how much room there is in the iso to add that info there | 17:16 |
| golinux | We'll figure it out . . . | 17:17 |
| * golinux goes back to the kitchen . . . | 17:17 | |
| pungentweasel | I could use a hand with gnuinos again.. I need to install golang-go 1.19, but all that is available is 1.15. v1.19 is in devuan chimaera-backports repo, but gnuinos webpage says that gnuinos repositories should not be mixed with other apt repos including devuan, so I don't want to add backports to my sources.list ... how can I proceed? | 20:09 |
| golinux | pungentweasel: Look for aitor | 20:27 |
| golinux | He hasn't been here in a while though - 2022-09-06 | 20:29 |
| golinux | You could contact him via the DNG mail list if no one answers your question. | 20:30 |
| pungentweasel | thanks. I'm just poking around in a vm trying to see if it's a workable option for me, so it's not a huge deal | 20:32 |
| pungentweasel | I got it .... i added only the chimaera-backports repo to my sources.list since gnuinos doesn't provide that one (so I don't suspect there to be a conflict) .. then "apt install -t chimaera-backports golang-go" .. afterwards I can remove those from my sources. this let me install the package | 20:37 |
| ___used | re: vlc and cve / bug in vnc plugin: on #debian I was told to update sources.list -- where there seem to be some missing things in devuan vs debian. I do not quite know how to apply this to the devuan repos which are in my sources.list -- ref: https://security-tracker.debian.org/tracker/CVE-2022-41325 | 20:49 |
| ___used | Note bullseye is on 3.0.17.4-0+deb11u1 (which is also on my Beowulf) -- but 'bullseye (security) 3.0.18-0+deb11u1' is not available on devuan beowulf security | 20:50 |
| ___used | Perhaps the mirroring of debian security got stuck on that item? | 20:50 |
| ___used | My sources.list has, among others: | 20:51 |
| ___used | deb http://deb.devuan.org/merged beowulf-security main contrib non-free | 20:51 |
| ___used | deb http://deb.devuan.org/merged beowulf-backports main contrib non-free | 20:52 |
| ___used | imo the 3.0.18+* should be there, but it is not. | 20:52 |
| ___used | Anyone? | 20:52 |
| ___used | Do we have an 'Index of releases' somewhere on devuan.org? I can't find anything like that. Similar to the one here: https://www.debian.org/releases/ | 20:54 |
| golinux | https://www.devuan.org/os/releases | 20:57 |
| ___used | emergency fix for 3.0.17* : sudo mv /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/vlc/plugins/access/libvnc_plugin.so /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/vlc/plugins/access/libvnc_plugin.so.moved | 21:01 |
| ___used | caution: not audited -- I hope it works | 21:01 |
| ___used | Hmm someone providing Devuan (too) based commercial ? releases https://sourceforge.net/projects/ufficiozero/ | 21:35 |
| bb|hcb | ___used: https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/vlc | 22:36 |
| bb|hcb | As you can see above, there is only 3.0.17.4-0+deb10u2 for buster/beowulf; as per Debian's policies, such problems are preferrably patched without introducing a new version. It is strange how they allowed a version bump for bullseye/chimaera | 22:41 |
| bb|hcb | In other words, what you see there, that will come in Devuan too... | 22:44 |
| _ds_ | A new upstream version which fixes only security bugs (relative to what's in the target release) might be allowed in. | 22:46 |
| _ds_ | Similarly if the version in that release is difficult/impossible to patch to fix the security problems. | 22:48 |
| _ds_ | (i.e. unsupported upstream, patches depend on other patches not for security issues) | 22:48 |
| ___used | I dropped the ball in the (devuan) court. I hope the maintainers will react when they have time. | 22:53 |
| bb|hcb | _ds_: Yes right, the strange part is that old one got patched for buster and new version came in bullseye (I didn't verify that though) | 23:05 |
| bb|hcb | ___used: This only depends on Debian, vlc is not forked - whatever happens in Debian, the same will be in Devuan with a short delay (20-30 minutes) | 23:06 |
| bb|hcb | Did you check if 3.0.17.4-0+deb10u2 has the scurity problem patched? | 23:08 |
| ___used | videolan/vlc says no, but https://security-tracker.debian.org/tracker/CVE-2022-41325 says fixed (buster security) | 23:13 |
| ___used | videolan/vlc website ^ | 23:15 |
| ___used | So apparently it is fixed "silently" ?! | 23:15 |
| ___used | I am on vlc 3.0.17.4-0+deb10u2 indeed here | 23:16 |
| ___used | Sorry for the hubbub but it was not clear 3.0.17 had the fix until a few hours ago when that url (security-tracker) was given to me on #debian | 23:16 |
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