| brocashelm | i wonder if i could somehow make it work with arecord and ffmpeg? | 01:54 |
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| Assassink786[m] | <gnarface> "it's a slow channel but someone..." <- Ok sure... (full message at <https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/v3/download/libera.chat/8318e992273e145b1b44e3a5b378d5c1217c14a0>) | 04:52 |
| gnarface | Assassink786[m]: uh... i'm not gonna click on that. if it's too much to paste just /msg it to me | 05:45 |
| gnarface | or use paste.debian.net instead, then i'll click on it | 05:45 |
| Assassink786[m] | gnarface: http://paste.debian.net/1278496 | 06:07 |
| gnarface | Assassink786[m]: ah, you'd have better luck getting a response by typing that out in-channel directly. as far as i know, nobody has worked on it here, but i'm not on the inside loop so you should hang around and talk to someone actually on the team who knows | 07:09 |
| gnarface | and i don't know of any particular reason it wouldn't work just fine on devuan as-is but i haven't tested it myself | 07:09 |
| * enyc meows | 08:32 | |
| enyc | ** Is Devuas-Dedalus to release along with Debian Bookworm12 ? deb have booked Jun 10th as expected-release-day at the moment. | 08:35 |
| enyc | Uerr, Daedalus .... | 08:36 |
| gnarface | enyc: it will probably not release on the same day, it will probably be a few months afterwards, but it's already considered usable by most of us who have tried it if you want to get ready by testing your own stuff | 09:23 |
| frogmo | Hello | 11:04 |
| frogmo | Anybody help? | 11:05 |
| Assassink786[m] | hi | 11:05 |
| frogmo | How do I proceed to add the non-free repository to the daedalus test system? | 11:07 |
| gnarface | just append it to the lines in /etc/apt/sources.list | 11:12 |
| gnarface | then re-run "apt-get update" | 11:12 |
| gnarface | you have to run "apt-get update" (not to be confused with "upgrade") after any changes to the sources.list before the new packages will show up in searches | 11:12 |
| rustyaxe | w/in 15 | 11:13 |
| frogmo | gnarface And how do you proceed to add? Because the way I did it, I got an error. | 11:14 |
| gnarface | frogmo: you have to be logged in as the root user, or use sudo or su. changing files in /etc/ requires root permissions. | 11:15 |
| gnarface | (running "apt-get update" will too) | 11:16 |
| frogmo | gnarface I did it as root | 11:16 |
| gnarface | what was the error you got? | 11:16 |
| gnarface | if you paste the contents of that file at paste.debian.net i'll sanity check it for you | 11:17 |
| frogmo | One moment please, because the machine is installing xorg | 11:17 |
| gnarface | i think there should be some examples on devuan.org too | 11:19 |
| frogmo | That's how I initially added it, and it gave me an error. | 11:20 |
| frogmo | deb http://deb.devuan.org/merged deadalus main non-free contrib | 11:20 |
| rrq | ea? | 11:20 |
| brocashelm | daedalus, not deadalus | 11:20 |
| brocashelm | btw, it's strongly recommended to include non-free-firmware in your sources | 11:21 |
| brocashelm | deb http://deb.devuan.org/merged daedalus main non-free contrib non-free-firmware | 11:21 |
| brocashelm | and then try again | 11:21 |
| frogmo | brocashelm haha it keeps giving me an error | 11:24 |
| frogmo | The <<http://deb.devuan.org/merged deadalus Release>> file | 11:29 |
| frogmo | does not have a Release file. It cannot be updated from such a | 11:29 |
| frogmo | repository in a secure way and is therefore disabled by default. | 11:29 |
| djph | frogmo: you've spelt 'dAEdalus' wrong there. | 11:34 |
| frogmo | djph I put the one you wrote above, and it keeps giving me an error. deb http://deb.devuan.org/merged daedalus main non-free contrib non-free-firmware | 11:37 |
| djph | frogmo: what's the error now? | 11:38 |
| frogmo | djph The same error we published above | 11:40 |
| gnarface | frogmo: what else is in that sources.list file? | 11:53 |
| gnarface | make sure any other lines start with # | 11:54 |
| frogmo | The other deadalus testing repositories | 11:55 |
| frogmo | gnartace Yes, it is the only line that is uncommented, and the other one is commented by default. | 11:56 |
| gnarface | do you have any apt processes hung in the background or anything like that? | 11:58 |
| gnarface | i'm struggling to imagine what could cause this but the signs are pointing to user error | 11:58 |
| frogmo | # deb http://deb.devuan.org/merged deadalus main non-free | 11:58 |
| gnarface | well that's still spelled wrong but it shouldn't matter | 11:59 |
| gnarface | cause it's commented like you said | 11:59 |
| gnarface | but i can't reproduce any issue, it seems up as far as i can tell | 11:59 |
| frogmo | # deb-src http://deb.devuan.org/merged deadalus-security main contrib non-free | 12:00 |
| gnarface | so there's gotta be a typo in that file or some other error | 12:00 |
| gnarface | you're sure you ran apt-get update not upgrade, right? | 12:00 |
| gnarface | at the very least you should have seen the spelling of daedalus change in the error... | 12:01 |
| gnarface | any caching proxies? | 12:01 |
| gnarface | raid arrays? | 12:01 |
| frogmo | Just run apt-get update | 12:01 |
| gnarface | something that interferes would have to be malfunctioning, or the file just didn't get saved or something... | 12:02 |
| frogmo | gnarface I'm testing on a virtualized machine, and I can't put the way the machine is displayed. | 12:03 |
| frogmo | E: The <<http://deb.devuan.org/merged deadalus Release>> file does not have a Publication file. | 12:05 |
| frogmo | N: It cannot be updated from such a repository in a secure way and is therefore disabled by default. | 12:05 |
| frogmo | The only repositories that work on the xxx test system are these, but it is insufficient! | 12:15 |
| frogmo | deb http://deb.devuan.org/merged deadalus main | 12:15 |
| frogmo | deb-src http://deb.devuan.org/merged deadalus main | 12:15 |
| rrq | s/ea/ae/ | 12:45 |
| frogmo | Does anyone know how to run a .deb file via terminal? | 12:51 |
| brocashelm | sudo dpkg -i /path/to/file.deb | 12:53 |
| brocashelm | be careful with that. it could break your system if the dependencies don't match (apt-get -f install usually takes patches things up again) | 12:54 |
| frogmo | For example the file is at the user's home which would be like this: /home/devu | 12:54 |
| brocashelm | yeah, just specify the full path of the deb file with dpkg -i | 12:55 |
| brocashelm | assuming you want to install that package | 12:55 |
| gnarface | frogmo: those lines still say "deadalus" not "daedalus" are you messing with me? | 12:55 |
| frogmo | gnarface Then there must be a typo in the typography. | 12:57 |
| brocashelm | it's supposed to be daedalus, not deadalus | 12:57 |
| brocashelm | a before the e | 12:57 |
| frogmo | I'm so focused on trying to install a .deb package that is a window manager. | 12:58 |
| n4dir | i think apt can install deb files too, and will take care of the dependencies. | 13:01 |
| n4dir | might well be that feature was added to apt-get too. | 13:01 |
| frogmo | brocashelm Either daedalus or gnarface deadalus deadalus generates an error. | 13:10 |
| frogmo | I generate problems when installing the .deb package with the dpkg -i command | 13:20 |
| n4dir | which problems might that be? | 13:25 |
| frogmo | Devuan Daedalus (testing) | 13:25 |
| frogmo | deb http://deb.devuan.org/merged daedalus main | 13:26 |
| manfred_ | Hi. | 15:52 |
| manfred_ | Is this the right place for me to ask a question regarding Devuan Chimaera? | 15:53 |
| gnarface | it sure is | 15:53 |
| gnarface | it's a slow channel but people read their scrollback logs | 15:54 |
| manfred_ | Great! I installed Devuan on a kvm/qemu vm to test it. I used the Desktop ISO because I wanted to use KDE. Installation went fine but the system boots to a blank screen. Since my host system is AMD Ryzen, I switched to TTY1, logged in and installed the package firmware-amd-graphics | 15:55 |
| gnarface | which -vga flag are you using for qemu? | 15:57 |
| manfred_ | But the problem ist the same. Unfortunately, I don't see an error message in the logs, except one from SDDM that says: could not connect to display 0 | 15:57 |
| manfred_ | It is using virtio for VGA | 15:58 |
| gnarface | hmm, someone else was just having this problem the other day too but i though that using virtio fixed it for them | 15:58 |
| debdog | manfred_: is that 'blank' screen entirely black? if so, does a mouse pointer show up when you move the mouse? | 15:59 |
| manfred_ | It is entirely black, no mouse pointer | 16:00 |
| debdog | yes, I use virtio, too, and it works for me™, too | 16:00 |
| debdog | so, ttys are working... | 16:01 |
| manfred_ | Yes. I can log in as root on tty, which is good | 16:02 |
| debdog | is there an xorg log and if so what does it contain? | 16:02 |
| debdog | (don't ask me where to find that log these days. prolly inside your ~ somewhere | 16:03 |
| debdog | ) | 16:03 |
| manfred_ | I found an Xorg.0.log in /var/log. Will quickly check it | 16:03 |
| gnarface | it should be in ~/.local/share/xorg/Xorg.*.log but there's a chance it would still be in /var/log, the only problem is if you have both you need to make sure which one is getting updated | 16:04 |
| manfred_ | Ah, thanks! Will check and let you know | 16:04 |
| gnarface | and with AMD video hardware there should be no need to run Xorg suid root anymore | 16:05 |
| debdog | and if there's nothing suspicious there, check the display manager's log | 16:06 |
| gnarface | (which would be why it might be in /var/log, btw) | 16:06 |
| debdog | ahh | 16:06 |
| gnarface | some drivers (nvidia) still require you run it suid root, but for everything else it should be sufficient to just be in the video and input groups | 16:07 |
| manfred_ | There is only the Xorg logfile in /var/log. It is the one that is in use. It looks good so far. The CPU as well as the graphics card are AMD | 16:09 |
| manfred_ | I will check the display managers log | 16:09 |
| debdog | ok. if that doesn't have an error listed, disable the dm entirely. reboot, log in as user and run "startx". | 16:11 |
| manfred_ | The sddm.log is empty. How do I disable it? | 16:11 |
| debdog | or just stop the dm and do the startx thing | 16:11 |
| debdog | /etc/init.d/$displaymanager's_name stop | 16:12 |
| manfred_ | Thanks! | 16:12 |
| debdog | then no rebott required! | 16:13 |
| manfred_ | Ok. startx worked | 16:13 |
| debdog | after that, just log in as user and "startx" | 16:13 |
| debdog | ok, then it has to be a fault with the dm | 16:13 |
| gnarface | hmm, the dm worked for me but i didn't try it with kde | 16:14 |
| debdog | unfortunately I don't use one so I am kind of lost now | 16:14 |
| manfred_ | That's really strange, At installation, I marked KDE. What is running now, is XFCE :-D | 16:14 |
| manfred_ | bbs | 16:16 |
| gnarface | i seem to be using slim and xfce | 16:16 |
| debdog | maybe it installed both somehow and defaults to xfce atm | 16:17 |
| gnarface | manfred_: which gui login are you using? check for slim or something else | 16:18 |
| debdog | or sddm ain't compatible with kde and 'blanks' out now :D | 16:18 |
| gnarface | oh, that was already stated it's sddm | 16:18 |
| gnarface | hmm | 16:18 |
| manfred_ | I am not sure, but does the expert installer let me choose which dm to use? | 16:18 |
| debdog | I don't think so. might depend on installed WMs/DEs | 16:19 |
| gnarface | yea i think it's just inferred by what you check at tasksel | 16:19 |
| debdog | check in /etc/rc2.d which dm is called. manfred_ | 16:20 |
| manfred_ | S04sddm | 16:21 |
| debdog | ok | 16:21 |
| gnarface | check for kde too | 16:22 |
| manfred_ | And I just checked - KDE Desktop has been installed | 16:22 |
| gnarface | interesting, there might be a simple way to fix this with update-alternatives | 16:22 |
| debdog | yah, either try figuring out why sddm ain't working or go without dm and do what gnarface said. manfred_ | 16:23 |
| debdog | or switch to another dm | 16:23 |
| gnarface | see what this returns: update-alternatives --list x-window-manager | 16:24 |
| manfred_ | Ok. Great! Thanks a lot for your help, guys" | 16:24 |
| manfred_ | The output is: /usr/bin/kwin_x11 and /usr/bin/xfwm4 | 16:25 |
| debdog | (personally, as a no-dm-user I'd go with gnarface's solution. I have altered my profile so startx is called at login on tty1. on any other tty I just plainly log in.) | 16:25 |
| manfred_ | That sounds good to me! | 16:26 |
| gnarface | manfred_: try this: update-alternatives --set x-window-manager /usr/bin/kwin_x11 | 16:27 |
| gnarface | (as root) | 16:27 |
| manfred_ | Once again: Thanks a lot! | 16:27 |
| debdog | manfred_: the commands I have at the bottom of ~/.bash_profile (user's ~, not root's): ~/.bash_profile | 16:28 |
| debdog | erm. | 16:29 |
| debdog | ~/.bash_profile | 16:29 |
| debdog | heh | 16:29 |
| debdog | https://paste.debian.net/1278542/ | 16:29 |
| debdog | now, eventually ;) | 16:29 |
| debdog | important are the startx and the logout parts, the rest is not necessary. | 16:30 |
| manfred_ | Ok | 16:30 |
| debdog | viel Erfolg und Spaß mit der VM, Manne ;) | 16:40 |
| manfred_ | Dankeschön! Bin sehr gespannt auf die Erfahrung | 16:40 |
| manfred_ | @debdog Sehr feine Sache! Debian ohne Systemd mit KDE/Plasma. Werde das mal als Dualboot direkt auf das Blech installieren. D | 17:52 |
| manfred_ | @debdog Sehr feine Sache! Debian ohne Systemd mit KDE/Plasma. Werde das mal als Dualboot direkt auf das Blech installieren. | 17:52 |
| debdog | just like debian used to be :( | 17:54 |
| rustyaxe | cgroup: Unknown subsys name 'elogind' | 19:34 |
| n4dir | rustyaxe: though it is installed? | 19:35 |
| rustyaxe | elogind is installed and up til whenever my home assistant docker broke (last week or two idk i been gone) | 19:35 |
| rustyaxe | worked | 19:35 |
| rustyaxe | its a minimal devuan install with homeassistant in docker | 19:35 |
| rustyaxe | running upgrade and reboot see what we get but looks like cgroups are wonked somehow | 19:36 |
| temp64 | hi, just installed with xfce and managed to get my wi-fi to work | 20:43 |
| temp64 | but looking at the display settings, I can only see 1024x768 in the list of available resolutions | 20:44 |
| temp64 | there is nothing in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d either and I'm pretty sure my integrated AMD gpu works | 20:44 |
| gnarface | you're probably just missing the firmware-amd-graphics package from non-free | 20:45 |
| temp64 | installing it now | 20:45 |
| temp64 | works like a charm | 20:48 |
| temp64 | thanks! | 20:48 |
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