libera/#devuan/ Sunday, 2023-06-11

brocashelmany way to customize further key shortcuts in thunar? for example, to change alt+1 (switch to tab 1) to ctrl+1 (which is not implemented on the config screen)00:56
golinuxthunar custom actions?02:06
golinuxAdd them under the "edit" option in the nav bar02:07
* Xenguy wonders what thunar looks like these days ...02:18
grayrockXenguy: what file manager do you use?02:21
Xenguygrayrock, The latest I landed on was 'ranger', for it's vi key bindings...02:23
XenguyWorks decently out of the box, and can be customized from there02:23
XenguyBut mostly of interest to those who like vi/vim keybindings02:23
grayrocka cli purist!02:24
grayrocki got used to joe a long time ago becuase it has jstar mode with wordstar bindings, and a was a cp/m-wordstar guy back in the dark ages.02:28
XenguyWordstar was the first wordprocessor I ever used, those were the days : -)02:29
* grayrock nods02:30
XenguyWordprocessor history for me was roughly: wordstar, wordperfect, word, staroffice, libreoffice; now I try to avoid wordprocessors as much as I can  ; -)02:32
grayrockthe ibmpc keyboard that moved the control key was the death knell for wordstar.02:34
golinuxGetting a bit OT, guys . . .02:34
XenguyGood point, there's #devuan-offtopic grayrock , just FYI02:47
brocashelmgolinux: that is not what i was referring to; i want to be able to edit more shortcuts of thunar that are baked into the software03:49
brocashelmspacefm made me realize thunar is not all that customizable as i once thought it was03:50
brocashelmbut it's unmaintained and will be dropped, so w/e03:50
grayrockspacefm would be a worthwhile project for someone interested in becoming a maintainer. it's about the best of the independant fm when you're just kludging together a desktop.03:55
brocashelmthere is a currently maintained one on github from thermitegod, but i could never get it to build, and strangely, neither could the aur maintainer04:12
brocashelmit works perfectly even without dbus or gvfs (there is a trash script that takes care of this)04:13
brocashelmhttps://github.com/thermitegod/spacefm04:13
brocashelmit's only gtk3, though04:14
juma[m]Im looking for a minimal server with orc and 2 containers of docker04:20
grayrockugh, gvfs. i remember it used to keep your luks partition open after you thought you'd closed it.04:22
Xenguyjuma[m], Idle awhile, and see if someone knows04:22
juma[m]I would love to migrate my plez server there04:24
gnarfacejuma[m]: there's a thread on the forum about making docker work. i'm not sure what orc is.05:05
rrqmight be "orca - Scriptable screen reader" ?05:30
gnarfacejuma[m]: if you mean orca, it's in the repo. dunno if it works but worth a try.05:38
Demosthenexright, i'm aware ascii is EOL and archived, but is there a package mirror out there with the final versions? perhaps i could clone locally?09:02
Demosthenextrying to migrate and need a  few files :P09:02
Demosthenexah! no longer deb.devuan.org, but archive.devuan.org, buried in a readme on an ftp mirror09:07
Demosthenexty!09:07
helios21as far as I am aware there has been some work to make cronie a viable scheduler for Debian 12. But what will be installed by default I never tried. So far I just upgraded a system from Debian 10 to 11 to 12 and I think the job scheduler did not change due to the upgrade.09:41
helios21All my private systems are Devuan anyway.09:42
grayrockdevuan is awesome.09:43
helios21Never mind, this was a discussion in the Debian IRC channel. Posted into the wrong channel.09:45
grayrockheh09:45
helios21appears cronie is actually not available in Debian 12.09:51
helios21anyway, staying with cron then. No systemd-cron on my Devuan systems :)09:51
brocashelmworth reading: https://www.debian.org/releases/bookworm/amd64/release-notes/ch-information.en.html10:45
juma[m]<gnarface> "juma: if you mean orca, it's..." <- Openrc😊13:29
juma[m]<gnarface> "juma: there's a thread on the..." <- Thanks :)13:29
gnarfacenp13:31
nemohuh. darn. debian didn't pick up shotwell 0.32 with avif support18:42
nemo(in latest stable/soon-to-be dædalus)19:04
nemofunny readme sheepluva linked me to https://salsa.debian.org/md/usrmerge/raw/master/debian/README.Debian22:02

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