| nethead23 | Hi, enyone here who is running courier MTA with maildrop/spamassassin on Devuan 5? | 01:59 |
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| gnarface | nethead23: i'm not, but that also doesn't sound like a devuan specific problem. perhaps someone has already reported it to the debian bug tracker along with a fix? worth checking... | 02:10 |
| nethead23 | gnarface: Its just i have an seemingly, identical configuration/installation on Debian 11 which works and the Debian 12 based one Devuan 5 doesnt. But you are probably right, its most probably a Debian 12 issue or a problem on my side. | 02:28 |
| gnarface | nethead23: well, i checked the debian bugtracker, and while i didn't see anything labeled obviously related, there were several that ambiguously could be, depending on if you can get more actual information about the error | 02:29 |
| gnarface | https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?dist=stable;package=maildrop | 02:29 |
| gnarface | worth looking through these, at least | 02:29 |
| nethead23 | google search on "debian 12 bug tracker maildrop" restricted to one year old doesnt give any usuable results. Will check your link now. Thx | 02:31 |
| gnarface | only other thing i can suggest is try something else | 02:33 |
| nethead23 | You mean a different MTA? | 02:33 |
| gnarface | no i mean something other than maildrop | 02:33 |
| nethead23 | I have a 20 year plus old .mailfilter.... :) | 02:34 |
| gnarface | oh, hmm. i see. | 02:34 |
| nethead23 | I already have the source package installed and mostly compiled. I did replace the stock debian 12 maildrop with the courier one already but that ddint help. Will try to install completely from source. That should hopefully fix it | 02:35 |
| gnarface | good luck | 02:35 |
| nethead23 | Thx | 02:35 |
| gnarface | shouldn't require that much work really, but if it fixes it... | 02:36 |
| gnarface | i'm just using exim with courier-imaps and spamassassin, but i haven't tried it on daedalus | 02:36 |
| nethead23 | I had been using qmail with courier-imap and spamassassin until 2 months ago... unluckily qmail is too outdated now. | 02:37 |
| nethead23 | But exim is also a good choice, yes | 02:37 |
| systemdlete | all of a sudden... firefox requires about 20 new dependencies? | 05:49 |
| systemdlete | 25, actually | 05:49 |
| debdog | are they by any chance video encoding related? | 05:51 |
| systemdlete | yes, by "chance" they are | 06:02 |
| debdog | https://arstechnica.com/security/2023/09/new-0-day-in-chrome-and-firefox-is-likely-to-plague-other-software/ | 06:03 |
| fluffywolf | why the hell would firefox be using encoding? | 06:05 |
| debdog | let's hope it doesn'T | 06:09 |
| gnarface | mic and camera access would need encoding | 06:11 |
| gnarface | does firefox do that? | 06:12 |
| gnarface | last i used firefox for such, it was through the flash plugin | 06:12 |
| nethead23 | thats one reason i have unloaded the camera modules on my notebook | 06:12 |
| rwp | That notice says "Specific handling of an attacker-controlled VP8 media stream could lead to a heap buffer overflow in the content process. We are aware of this issue being exploited in other products in the wild." | 06:19 |
| rwp | Which to my mind means video advertisements. If you don't have uBlock Origin installed then visiting pages with adverts will play untrusted video content which might be malicious attack vectors. | 06:19 |
| rwp | In contradiction to that the ars report says "The vuln is in VP8 encoding, so if something uses libvpx only for decoding, they have nothing to worry about." | 06:21 |
| rwp | So not sure what to believe from those conflicting reports but there they are. | 06:21 |
| fluffywolf | my reading of it is that firefox makes vp8 encoding available to javascript. | 06:24 |
| fluffywolf | and thus any javascript on any web page can exploit it | 06:24 |
| fluffywolf | bbl, wolfy bedtime | 06:26 |
| rwp | Ah, that helps to explain it. Thanks for that fluffywolf! | 06:34 |
| comborico1611 | I have a recommendation for the Devuan download mirror page. I am in the Philippines. And I couldn´t find the nearest server. But someone here on IRC pointed me to: http://packages.devuan.org/mirror_list.txt | 07:54 |
| comborico1611 | I couldn´t find the correct mirror because the locations are not listed. So my recommendation is that they be listed. | 07:55 |
| gnarface | it was me, but i see locations are listed there... | 07:56 |
| gnarface | "Country" and "CountryCode" fields appear populated | 07:56 |
| gnarface | that's all there are though | 07:57 |
| gnarface | if you want a mirror closer to the Philippines than any of those, you'll have to be the change you want to see in the world | 07:57 |
| comborico1611 | at .../get-devuan ? | 08:00 |
| gnarface | oh, no i thought you meant on the mirror_list.txt | 08:00 |
| gnarface | you meant you want them on the website, i see. that's a fair comment. | 08:01 |
| comborico1611 | Haha | 08:01 |
| comborico1611 | Thanks again. Out. | 08:01 |
| gnarface | i can't actually do anything about it either, but i see the point. | 08:01 |
| gnarface | later. | 08:01 |
| onefang | The /get-devuan mirror list is for the ISO mirrors, http://packages.devuan.org/mirror_list.txt is for the package mirrors. I'm in charge of the later, not the former. | 08:25 |
| onefang | Some mirrors do both, so you might find one in /mirror_list.txt that suits you that is also in get-devuan. | 08:26 |
| onefang | Ah, they left. | 08:26 |
| joerg | geographical distance to a mirror is largely meaningless in our world of global internet. Pick the fastest one, regardless of where it's located | 14:54 |
| joerg | you might judge by TLD if you insist to... | 14:55 |
| joerg | https://www.devuan.org/get-devuan | 14:55 |
| ted-ious | Maybe pick the fastest one that's on the same continent. :) | 15:18 |
| ted-ious | Otherwise you might be using one on the other side of an underwater fiber. | 15:18 |
| onefang | That's one reason I have geographically distributed instances of apt-panopticon, the thing I wrote to monitor package mirrors. It includes speed reports and graphs. | 15:20 |
| ted-ious | Nice! | 15:22 |
| ted-ious | Is that in the standard repositories? | 15:22 |
| alphalpha | Hooi | 15:39 |
| alphalpha | i downloaded the torrent with all daedalus isos, desktop-live and minimal live are all version 5.0.0 | 15:41 |
| alphalpha | and everything inside installer-iso iser version 5.0.1 ... is there any documentation what happened here? | 15:41 |
| gnarface | someone probably knows... ask fsmithred | 15:42 |
| gnarface | i assume it's just a minor bug fix | 15:42 |
| fsmithred | alphalpha, I don't think there's any documentation other than some irc logs and maybe a forum thread. | 15:43 |
| fsmithred | there have been some problems with the installer isos in particular cases, so they've been rebuilt. | 15:43 |
| fsmithred | The live isos don't have those problems. | 15:43 |
| alphalpha | ah okay, i was just wondering because the live isos are still 5.0.0 | 15:43 |
| alphalpha | ok | 15:44 |
| fsmithred | when the middle digit changes, we will do it with all the isos and probably update the associated docs for an official point-release. | 15:44 |
| alphalpha | thx | 15:45 |
| fsmithred | the issues with the installer isos have to do with the bootloader - iso uses syslinux for both bios and uefi boots. | 15:45 |
| fsmithred | sometime when I have more time, I would like to brainstorm with you on the live installer. | 15:46 |
| fsmithred | and maybe some hand-holding to look at your code | 15:46 |
| alphalpha | i am just about to push a major update, i rewrote a lot of the code and made it more readable | 15:47 |
| fsmithred | cool | 15:47 |
| alphalpha | and now i make the menus completely with a awk function, no more using iselect | 15:48 |
| alphalpha | i even had it working with arch, artix and hyperbola | 15:48 |
| fsmithred | oh, nice | 15:48 |
| alphalpha | but i messed up the artix part somehow | 15:48 |
| fsmithred | mine needs an overhaul | 15:48 |
| fsmithred | and I would like to merge some of your additions | 15:48 |
| fsmithred | do you have it on a git repo somewhere? | 15:50 |
| alphalpha | i hope i have my new isos ready be the end of this week or maybe next week, then i will upload everything on gitlab | 15:50 |
| fsmithred | great | 15:50 |
| alphalpha | https://gitlab.com/_alphalpha_/forge-dotfiles/-/tree/main/.local?ref_type=heads | 15:50 |
| alphalpha | but that is still the old version | 15:50 |
| fsmithred | thanks | 15:50 |
| fsmithred | will bookmark it | 15:50 |
| onefang | ted-ious: There are links to the source at the bottom of the apt-panopticon web reports. https://sledjhamr.org/apt-panopticon/results/Report-web.html is the one I run on my server. | 15:55 |
| alphalpha | check this https://imgur.com/a/MWk5VVl | 16:01 |
| DelTomix | alphalpha: In the installer ISO - 5.0.1 was released to provide some updates to the syslinux that fixed some issues when booting physical CDROM/DVD media | 16:02 |
| DelTomix | (specifically on EFI as fsmithred pointed out) | 16:04 |
| alphalpha | thx | 16:04 |
| fsmithred | alphalpha, is that a pic of the installer? | 16:17 |
| alphalpha | that is not part the installer, its a little tool that starts when you log into X, but it can start the installer | 16:21 |
| alphalpha | *part of | 16:21 |
| gnarface | anyone else suddenly have matching foreground and background menu label text in firefox-esr? | 17:18 |
| gnarface | just the label text, the menus themselves are fine | 17:24 |
| gnarface | just the top bar labels basically | 17:25 |
| gnarface | possibly an anomaly from the gtk theme i'm using but it was fine before the latest update | 17:25 |
| peterrooney | gnarface: i'm not understanding what you're describing. text foreground/background matching colours, usually gets reported as "invisible text" or "no text" | 17:56 |
| gnarface | peterrooney: well, that's basically the result, yes | 18:05 |
| gnarface | i happen to know the text is there and not actually technically invisible | 18:05 |
| gnarface | it's unclear why it's now the wrong color when it wasn't before though | 18:06 |
| gnarface | the "new tab" button has the same problem | 18:06 |
| gnarface | they're functional, and the colors on the menu contents are still correct | 18:07 |
| gnarface | it's just the top level menu labels for the menu bar | 18:07 |
| gnarface | it's the default theme so it should be inheriting the values from the system theme | 18:08 |
| gnarface | it seems to suddenly be inheriting the wrong one for this | 18:09 |
| gnarface | or something like that | 18:09 |
| gnarface | (speculating) | 18:09 |
| peterrooney | gnarface: things are fine for me with version 102.15, but my wm is e16 | 18:10 |
| joerg | onefang: wow, that's a nice website | 19:12 |
| joerg | can we have this "officially"? | 19:13 |
| joerg | frequently updated Devuan apt-panopticon mirror web reports. https://sledjhamr.org/apt-panopticon/results/Report-web.html | 19:26 |
| bb|hcb | joerg: http://veritas.devuan.org/apt-panopticon/results/Report-web.html (from a different point of view) | 19:52 |
| bb|hcb | The third one is broken for some reason | 19:52 |
| cfxproxy | How do i add my mirror to the list mirrors list? | 20:50 |
| tele | a | 20:55 |
| tele | add sex to repo pls | 20:55 |
| bb|hcb | cfxproxy: I would assume that you watch the channel log. Depending on your mirror type, ping onefang for packages mirror and Xenguy for ISO mirror (or both, if you mirror both) | 21:17 |
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