| systemdlete | is there a backport of ssl 3.0.9 for chimaera, or will I have to upgrade to daedalus? | 02:01 |
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| systemdlete | (thanks!) | 02:01 |
| rrq | https://pkginfo.devuan.org/openssl* says "no or yes" | 02:08 |
| systemdlete | rrq: Where does it say "no or yes?" I don't see that. I see a listing of various versions of libssl, which I looked at before. Is there some way to specify only look in, say, chimaera-backports? | 02:52 |
| rrq | it says "no" by not enlisting a 3.0.9 version for any chimaera repository, and it says "yes" by doing so for daedalus. That response page only tells about where pacgaes are, and it doesn't explicitly tell about where they aren't (th reader have to infer that) | 02:55 |
| rrq | its spelling is better than mine | 02:55 |
| systemdlete | Actually, it does tell which repos, but it doesn't (seem to) allow filtering. | 02:56 |
| systemdlete | Not sure what you mean by saying "no" or "yes" but I will just assume that the listing is all we get. No filtering of any kind. | 02:57 |
| rrq | no, it doesn't offer a way to reduce its sources.list | 02:58 |
| systemdlete | THat's Ok, thanks for your help. It looks that I will have to either upgrade or change my software. | 02:58 |
| joerg | I read it as >>[backport of ssl 3.0.9 for chimaera] no, or yes [will I have to upgrade]<< ;-) | 03:24 |
| strato | After upgrading some font gets tiny. First experienced with libreoffice when upgreding to daedalus. Yesterday i upgradet, and then firefox and thunderbird did the same. Is there something going on around fonts ? | 10:44 |
| gnarface | strato: which firefox version? | 11:32 |
| brocashelm | must be a reference to that fontconfig issue at some point late last year with unstable | 11:35 |
| brocashelm | for me, i just tried different fonts that looked more similar to the original ones i used | 11:36 |
| gnarface | hmm | 11:36 |
| gnarface | i don't remember having any problems with the fonts when upgrading to daedalus | 11:36 |
| gnarface | font issues were some time long before that | 11:36 |
| gnarface | but yea the default may have simply changed somewhere | 11:36 |
| gnarface | try changing it back then see if it looks normal | 11:36 |
| brocashelm | i was on ceres, and this happened; even my x session would terminate on its own if i launched my browser (pale moon) on a gpu-less pc | 11:37 |
| gnarface | another thing to try: dpkg-reconfigure fontconfig-config | 11:37 |
| brocashelm | that and | 11:37 |
| brocashelm | try having a look around firefox and thunderbird font settings for your profiles | 11:37 |
| AEonFyr | golinux: Thanks, some useful info there. | 12:01 |
| fsmithred | FWIW I noticed a change in my cookie settings when FF got upgraded recently. Browser stopped deleting cookies when I closed it. | 12:22 |
| fsmithred | ff-esr to be exact | 12:22 |
| gnarface | AEonFyr: note, i am not golinux | 12:28 |
| gnarface | only other thing i can think of is make sure DPI auto-detection is correct | 12:28 |
| gnarface | should be in the xorg log | 12:29 |
| strato | gnarface>: version 115.3.0esr 64 bit. Tryid running dpkg-reconfigure fontconfig-config with default setting, no change | 12:31 |
| xrogaan | fsmithred: did they change the logic? Now it has a "Delete cookies and site data when Firefox is closed" | 12:36 |
| onefang | gnarface: I think AEonFyr was referring to a previous discussion, where golinux did respond with a web link. | 12:37 |
| fsmithred | xrogaan, yeah, that looked different. But they un-checked that box for me, so I had accumulated a bunch of cookies that weren't going away. | 12:42 |
| fsmithred | I've also noticed that websites now ask you to allow cookies, and I think they can change your cookie settings for you (for them). | 12:43 |
| xrogaan | The allow cookies is the EU GDPR stuff. Asking if it's okay to store cookie. | 12:44 |
| xrogaan | Just malicious compliance. | 12:44 |
| fsmithred | ah, that explains why it happened everywhere at once | 12:45 |
| fsmithred | do we know what "site data" consists of? | 12:45 |
| xrogaan | cache, stored data. Web3 stuff | 12:46 |
| xrogaan | if you hit F12, you should get the dev console. Has a tab named storage. | 12:47 |
| onefang | That EU GDPR cookie consent thing has been going on for years. | 12:48 |
| xrogaan | https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/API/Web_Storage_API | 12:48 |
| fsmithred | thanks | 12:55 |
| strato | To delete cookies I use # /bin/rm -R -f /home/user/.cache/ in /etc/rc.local, that works. Doing it in setting does not. | 13:01 |
| onefang | That will delete every cached thing, not just web browser stuff. And only on boot. | 13:04 |
| onefang | Some of us don't reboot much. Last tmie I did was coz I was moving the computer to a new house. | 13:05 |
| onefang | Er "Last time". | 13:05 |
| fsmithred | make a panel button for that | 13:06 |
| onefang | Then you have to worry that you are nuking things that might still be in use coz you are logged in. | 13:07 |
| fsmithred | If you never reboot, make one to change the machine-id too. | 13:07 |
| onefang | Well my next boot should be in a week, the annual "pull my super desktop apart and remove the dust". | 13:08 |
| strato | If you never reboot -> crontab :) | 13:08 |
| strato | By the way, I see no reason for cache, at all. | 13:09 |
| onefang | All sorts of other things use /home/user/.cache. And one good reason for cache in something like a web browser is to not download the same stuff over and over again. | 13:10 |
| strato | Whats the problem in downloading again and .... | 13:11 |
| strato | When the server see you dont download caches item, it knows you where there before ... | 13:11 |
| onefang | If you don't have unlimited Internet bandwidth. | 13:11 |
| strato | I see no reason to tell that. | 13:12 |
| onefang | I just moved to a place where my only Internet option is 4G LTE, and the highest plan is 220 GB per month. I've had to work to reduce how much I usually use. | 13:12 |
| strato | Well, I understand not all have high bandwith, yet, I hope it come to you | 13:13 |
| joerg | don't use --force in rm when you don't have to... ;-) | 13:16 |
| onefang | And as I keep saying, that's not the only thing in /home/user/.cache. All sorts of software uses it that are not web browsers, so nuking the lot WHILE YOU ARE USING IT is a bad idea. At boot is fine. | 13:16 |
| strato | Somtimes you have to use the force :) | 13:16 |
| onefang | May the --force be with you. | 13:17 |
| onefang | An example is that my window manager has a directory in there, and my panel. Nuking /home/user/.cache from a panel button might be suicidal for the panel. lol | 13:18 |
| joerg | rm -f is some option the binary should punish with a "are you sure??? [yes-do-it-damn-do-it-now/N]" and a 5s delay ;-D | 13:20 |
| onefang | "sudo rm -fr /" should ALSO get a "What are you smoking?" | 13:21 |
| rrq | how about leaving opinions at -offtopic? | 13:21 |
| joerg | people learn by watching examples | 13:23 |
| joerg | with -f, -r and dealing with hidden files (.<whatever>), you got all the components for disaster in same command | 13:32 |
| xrogaan | onefang: but `sudo rm -rf /*` will work just fine | 13:37 |
| joerg | please don't even write this here! | 13:41 |
| buZz | lol | 13:44 |
| buZz | onefang: rm -fr is for deleting french translation files | 13:44 |
| buZz | ;) | 13:44 |
| onefang | lol | 13:45 |
| djph | buZz: sounds like something a BOFH would tell a user. | 13:47 |
| buZz | 'my homedir is full' 'ok let me fix it ... you have 10 | 13:47 |
| buZz | 'my homedir is full' 'ok let me fix it ... you have 10MB free space again' 'oh so i have 20MB quota now?' 'you have 10MB free space again' *click* | 13:48 |
| buZz | :) | 13:48 |
| djph | hahaha | 13:48 |
| buZz | classics \o/ | 13:48 |
| onefang | Definitely strayed to #devuan-offtopic. | 13:48 |
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