libera/##covid-19/ Sunday, 2021-01-17

BrainstormUpdates for Rwanda: +277 cases (now 10850), +2 deaths (now 140) since a day ago — Netherlands: +4439 cases (now 909455) since 18 hours ago00:10
de-factoi dont get it why news always talk about "back to normal", why would it be a desired goal to go back to a flawed biosecurity that allowed for this pandemic to unleash all its destructive potential?00:50
de-factoit seems journalists dont really think before writing their articles00:51
CoronaBot04/r/coronavirus: US life expectancy drops dramatically due to COVID-19. It's the largest drop in life expectancy in at least 40 years. (10044 votes) | https://www.livescience.com/us-life-expectancy-drop-covid-19.html | https://redd.it/kyltbk00:52
dTalI think you're reading that rather uncharitably, de-facto00:53
dTallet's assume "normal" means I can visit my parents without risking killing them, go dancing, or (heaven forbid) take someone to dinner00:54
de-factoyeah establish a new acceptable status quo but without ignoring biosecurity needs as it obviously was the case before00:55
de-factobut id rather call that a "new normal" than "back to (old) normal" implying we could just ignore it again as if nothing ever happened00:56
dTal"back to new normal"?00:57
de-factowell we newer have been there (established a proper biosecurity concept) hence i would not imply that by using "back to .."00:58
de-factobtw the docu that DocScrutinizer05 linked above is available (German lang) probably georestricted at btw that docu in German language that DocScrutinizer05 linked above is at https://wdrmedien-a.akamaihd.net/medp/ondemand/weltweit/fsk0/233/2338618/2338618_31488868.mp400:59
BrainstormUpdates for France: +16137 cases (now 2.9 million) since 22 hours ago — Switzerland: +2 deaths (now 8675) since 7 hours ago02:07
python476oh, 2M breached -- Total Deaths: 2,029,84103:08
BrainstormUpdates for Netherlands: +5672 cases (now 910688), +95 deaths (now 12967) since 21 hours ago — Gibraltar: +62 cases (now 3637), +9 deaths (now 34) since 21 hours ago — Saint Lucia: +35 cases (now 611), +2 deaths (now 8) since a day ago03:16
LjL%vax Ad26.COV2.S03:47
BrainstormLjL, no such vaccine found. Try checking https://covidvax.org 03:47
LjL%vax janssen03:47
BrainstormLjL, Ad26 alone or with MVA boost is a Non-replicating viral vector vaccine developed in Belgium + USA by Janssen (Johnson & Johnson) + Beth Israel Deaconess Medical Center (Harvard Medical School) + Emergent BioSolutions + Catalent, which began its testing on humans on date Aug 11 with 60000 healthy volunteers aged 18+ → https://covidvax.org/covid19-vaccine/Janssen03:47
LjLpython476, breach my heart instead of dead people03:51
BrainstormUpdates for New Zealand: +10 cases (now 2256) since a day ago04:14
BrainstormNew from r/WorldNews: worldnews: Turkey accused of agreeing to hand over Uighur Muslims to China in exchange for access to its COVID-19 vaccines. Allegations stem from timing of two events: long-delayed arrival of Turkey's order of vaccines from Chinese and Beijing's abrupt move to ratify 2017 extradition deal with Ankara. → https://is.gd/hMZLrK04:28
LjLde-facto, i assume you'd appreciate the bot posting tweets from the people yuriwho mentioned?04:40
de-factohe mentioned really good twitter accounts04:40
de-factoVirology: https://twitter.com/baric_lab "Ralph Baric"04:41
de-factoVariants: https://twitter.com/firefoxx66 "Emma Hodcroft"04:42
de-factoVariants: https://twitter.com/trvrb "Trevor Bedford"04:42
de-factoImmunology: https://twitter.com/jbloom_lab "Jesse Bloom"04:42
de-factoImmunology: https://twitter.com/profshanecrotty "Shane Crotty"04:42
LjLyes, i got them all, thanks04:44
LjLbot should post from them now04:44
LjL(i already had Hodcroft)04:44
de-factoneat :)04:44
LjLone thing's for sure04:45
LjLJan 17 04:43:43 ljlbox poetry[872252]: feeds/setup (MainThread): Registered 76 feeds for ##covid-19 with 10m updates04:45
LjLi'm pushing the bot's limits a little with this channel :P04:45
de-factowhoa04:45
de-factoon what box is it running?04:45
de-facto.title https://cmmid.github.io/topics/covid19/transmission-dynamics.html05:00
Brainstormde-facto: From cmmid.github.io: Transmission dynamics | CMMID Repository05:00
de-facto.title https://cmmid.github.io/topics/covid19/sa-novel-variant.html05:01
Brainstormde-facto: From cmmid.github.io: Estimates of severity and transmissibility of novel South Africa SARS-CoV-2 variant 501Y.V2 | CMMID Repository05:01
BrainstormUpdates for Belgium: +2120 cases (now 677209), +44 deaths (now 20396) since 23 hours ago05:53
BrainstormNew from This Week In Virology: TWiV 708: Alpaca llama full of nanobodies: The TWiVy team deconstructs CoronaVac, the inactivated SARS-CoV-2 vaccine produced by Sinovac Biotech, and production of multivalent camelid nanobodies that block infection with the virus and suppress selection of neturalization-resistant variants. → https://is.gd/qXBO3Q06:11
de-facto^^LjL ooh look TWIV talk about the paper we talked a few days ago here :)06:32
de-facto.title https://science.sciencemag.org/content/early/2021/01/11/science.abe623006:32
Brainstormde-facto: From science.sciencemag.org: Structure-guided multivalent nanobodies block SARS-CoV-2 infection and suppress mutational escape | Science06:33
BrainstormNew from BBC Health: Covid: 10 new mass vaccination centres to open in England: It comes as the government urges people to "play their part" in helping to meet vaccination targets. → https://is.gd/u6mB8i06:49
BrainstormNew from Reddit (test): CoronaVirus_2019_nCoV: India begins world's biggest Covid vaccination programme | World news → https://is.gd/fvBPP907:01
BrainstormNew from r/WorldNews: worldnews: "Don't want to be guinea pig", Delhi health workers refuse to take covid-19 vaccine which was approved without results of phase 3 trials. → https://is.gd/Cijq7Z07:13
BrainstormUpdates for Virginia, United States: +6757 cases (now 429391), +50 deaths (now 5706) since a day ago — Cundinamarca, Colombia: +1564 cases (now 81238), +19 deaths (now 2008) since a day ago — Jalisco, Mexico: +837 cases (now 59747), +78 deaths (now 7082) since a day ago — Saitama, Japan: +582 cases (now 20379), +6 deaths (now 256) since a day ago07:33
BrainstormNew from BBC Health: Covid: 10 new mass vaccination centres to open in England: It comes as the government urges people to "play their part" in helping to meet vaccination targets. → https://is.gd/u6mB8i08:14
BrainstormNew from r/WorldNews: worldnews: COVID-19: More people now vaccinated in the UK than have tested positive for virus | UK News → https://is.gd/rO4Qfy08:54
BrainstormNew from r/Coronavirus: Daily Discussion Thread | January 17, 2021: The WHO pages contain up-to-date and global information. Please refer to our Wiki for additional information. → https://is.gd/tQs3O609:06
BrainstormNew from BBC Health: Covid: 10 new mass vaccination centres to open in England: It comes as the government urges people to "play their part" in helping to meet vaccination targets. → https://is.gd/u6mB8i09:31
CoronaBot04/r/coronavirus: COVID-19: More people now vaccinated in the UK than have tested positive for virus | UK News (10035 votes) | https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-uk-records-1-295-more-deaths-and-another-41-346-cases-12189589 | https://redd.it/kys3h309:38
BrainstormUpdates for American Samoa: +1 cases (now 4) since a month ago09:55
CoronaBot04/r/covid19: Long COVID in the skin: a registry analysis of COVID-19 dermatological duration (81 votes) | https://www.thelancet.com/journals/laninf/article/PIIS1473-3099(20)30986-5/fulltext | https://redd.it/kyhl1a10:02
BrainstormNew from BBC Health: (news): Covid-19: Beating September vaccine target for all over-18s would a 'bonus' - Raab → https://is.gd/wUAcxi10:48
BrainstormNew from r/WorldNews: worldnews: Pay and skip quarantine: Cops bust scam at Mumbai airport. Police seized Rs 1.4 lakh INR cash, 200 Saudi riyals, a fake rubber stamp of home quarantine, few letterheads with stamp and signatures of doctors → https://is.gd/lC45aN12:40
pavel42ru[m]are you here to duplicate horror stories from centralized media? are you a sect?12:59
pavel42ru[m]the word "terrorism" comes from the word "terror", which means fear, horror. terrorism is fear-mongering. and this is done through the media. you are their accomplices. you are terrorists.12:59
BrainstormNew from BBC Health: (news): Covid-19: Beating September vaccine target for all over-18s a 'bonus' - Raab → https://is.gd/wUAcxi13:04
BrainstormUpdates for UAE: +3453 cases (now 253261), +5 deaths (now 745) since a day ago13:33
BrainstormNew from r/WorldNews: worldnews: Egypt to manufacture and distribute COVID vaccines for Africa and Middle East, will freely share e-system for tracking vaccines with any country unable to develop its own → https://is.gd/MlqjYw14:17
BrainstormNew from BBC Health: (news): Covid-19: England delivering 140 jabs a minute, says NHS chief executive → https://is.gd/wUAcxi14:30
CoronaBot04/r/covid19: Hyperbaric oxygen therapy: Can it be a novel supportive therapy in COVID-19? (80 votes) | https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7791429/ | https://redd.it/kyyhje14:36
BrainstormNew from The Indian Express: World: German minister says COVID curbs should be eased for vaccinated people → https://is.gd/Hozb3I15:06
ubLIX[m]blog notes on Israel's vaccination program: http://blog.eladgil.com/2021/01/israel-has-pulled-ahead-of-much-in.html15:12
BrainstormNew from BBC Health: (news): Covid-19: England delivering 140 jabs a minute, says NHS chief executive → https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-5569496715:19
BrainstormUpdates for Germany: +14923 cases (now 2.0 million) since 23 hours ago15:25
BrainstormNew from The Indian Express (Health): Art and Culture: Brooms, mops, a dark horse, and a visceral interpretation of the pandemic year → https://is.gd/djSgtI15:55
livaciousI apologize for being off-topic but this is real16:30
livaciousI apologize for being off topic16:30
livacioushttps://twitter.com/psaintlaurent0/status/1329514173387190280 This guy has been live tweeting his family being extorted for months.  He even got hit with an electronic weapon and live tweeted it. I contacted the FBI directly and they sent me to their tips line.  If you have time call the FBI and bitch there is someone with an actual electronic16:31
livaciousweapon and video of it being used on someone.16:31
livacious1900 V/m and 54uT which is essentially someone trying to give that guy a heart attack in broad daylight16:31
livaciousIf you have time contact the FBI someone has an actual active denial system being used in a residential neighborhood16:32
BrainstormNew from Reddit (test): nCoV: COVID-19: Ice cream tests positive for coronavirus in China | 17JAN21 → https://is.gd/HYCcup16:44
DocScrutinizer05ubLIX[m]: thanks!16:59
BrainstormUpdates for Netherlands: +5485 cases (now 914940), +60 deaths (now 13026) since 17 hours ago — Canada: +6481 cases (now 705244), +119 deaths (now 17899) since 23 hours ago17:22
BrainstormNew from BBC Health: (news): Covid-19: England delivering 140 jabs a minute, says NHS chief executive → https://is.gd/wUAcxi17:33
BrainstormUpdates for United Kingdom: +11267 cases (now 3.4 million), +197 deaths (now 88866) since 10 hours ago17:41
CoronaBot04/r/coronavirus: People in England are being vaccinated four times faster than new cases of the virus are being detected, NHS England's chief executive has said. (10727 votes) | https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-55694967 | https://redd.it/kz661m17:56
BrainstormNew from r/WorldNews: worldnews: Norway Raises Concern Over Vaccine Jabs for the Elderly → https://is.gd/jAQHfC17:58
BrainstormNew from r/WorldNews: worldnews: COVID-19: US intelligence claims Wuhan lab researchers had coronavirus symptoms before first reported cases → https://is.gd/PidA7S18:22
BrainstormNew from r/WorldNews: worldnews: Scientists at Wuhan lab admit being bitten while collecting samples in cave which is home to Covid-infected bats → https://is.gd/wbdhAv18:34
ArsaneritDaily Fail.18:41
BrainstormUpdates for US Virgin Is: +130 cases (now 2260) since 9 days ago18:43
LjLArsanerit, yeah... i mean, maybe it's true, but it's a tiny article where they just state it as fact without even bothering to, like, say, "In an interview with ..." "During ..."18:45
BrainstormNew from r/WorldNews: worldnews: Police in Amsterdam turned a water cannon on hundreds of demonstrators who were taking part in a banned protest Sunday against the Dutch government and its tough coronavirus lockdown. Police on horseback also moved in to break up the demonstration → https://is.gd/dF50V818:47
DocScrutinizer05>>England are being vaccinated four times faster than new cases of the virus are being detected<< that sounds great at first, but it's depressing on 2nd thought19:07
DocScrutinizer05>>Norway Raises Concern Over Vaccine Jabs for the Elderly<< gosh! another 6¡  -  still nonsense19:09
BrainstormNew from r/WorldNews: worldnews: Mainland China on high alert after COVID-19 outbreak near North Korea → https://is.gd/TYO1mt19:11
DocScrutinizer05in a cohort of 42000 elderly >80 (>75?) you *statistically* have a one or two dozen fatalities every week, if not more. I really don't think a 18 or 24 fatalities "from or with mRNA vaccine" are any statistically relevant issue19:17
DocScrutinizer05we all know there will be side effects like fever. The vaccinated got informed about this and they deliberately and very reasonably decided that they rather want to take the risk of slight fever - even knowing that they are more prone to dying from it than younger people - than to risk a covid infection much more likely to kill them19:21
BrainstormNew from The Indian Express: World: UAE lowers age requirement for COVID-19 vaccines to 16 → https://is.gd/9XucAA19:48
BrainstormUpdates for Italy: +12544 cases (now 2.4 million), +377 deaths (now 82177) since a day ago — Isle of Man: +9 cases (now 428) since a day ago — Switzerland: +5 deaths (now 8680) since 17 hours ago19:51
CoronaBot04/r/covid19: A Serology Strategy for Epidemiological Studies Based on the Comparison of the Performance of Seven Different Test Systems - The Representative COVID-19 Cohort Munich (81 votes) | https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.01.13.21249735v1 | https://redd.it/kz57k319:57
BrainstormNew from Medical Xpress: Pfizer reassures Europe over coronavirus vaccines as pandemic surges: Pharma giant Pfizer tried to ease concerns in Europe about deliveries of its coronavirus vaccine as nations across the world doubled down on restrictions to fight the rampaging pandemic. → https://is.gd/mCTt2D20:13
BrainstormUpdates for France: +12750 cases (now 2.9 million), +112 deaths (now 70173) since 22 hours ago20:22
CoronaBot04/r/covid19: Epidemiology of post-COVID syndrome following hospitalisation with coronavirus: a retrospective cohort study (81 votes) | https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.01.15.21249885v1 | https://redd.it/kz8pcu20:51
BrainstormNew from r/WorldNews: worldnews: Portugal's health system on brink of collapse as COVID-19 cases surge → https://is.gd/BtLwsy21:02
DocScrutinizer05hmm, that last one https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.01.15.21249885v1 about post-COVID syndrome looks a worthwhile read21:22
BrainstormNew from ProPublica: Inside the Capitol Riot: What the Parler Videos Reveal: by Alec MacGillis ProPublica is a nonprofit newsroom that investigates abuses of power. Sign up to receive our biggest stories as soon as they’re published. The man’s smartphone camera pans the crowd on the east side of the U.S. Capitol. It’s smaller than what had [... want %more?] → https://is.gd/9u1ojT21:27
xrogaanI need to drop a rant, about the press, the authorities and the new variant. None of them seems to appreciate that it is too late as soon as the new variant™ is discovered in a community.21:57
xrogaanThat means it has **already** spread within the community and possibly beyond.21:57
xrogaanConfining locally is then pointless, actions should have been taken way before to restrict population movement to and from area known to have the new variant.21:58
xrogaanAnd absolutely refuse that people go out in holidays. People going away in vacation is the stupidest choice during a pandemic.21:59
BrainstormNew from r/WorldNews: worldnews: Foreigners in Bali are punished with push-ups for not following coronavirus health protocols → https://is.gd/KuED0T22:03
Jigsy%cases UK22:19
BrainstormJigsy: In United Kingdom, there have been 3.4 million confirmed cases (5.1% of the population) and 89261 deaths (2.6% of cases) as of 4 hours ago. 63.1 million tests were performed (5.4% positive). See https://offloop.net/covid19/?default=United%20Kingdom for time series data.22:19
BrainstormUpdates for Comoros: +15 cases (now 1592), +4 deaths (now 45) since a day ago22:26
BrainstormNew from Emma Hodcroft: @firefoxx66: R to @firefoxx66: There are 161 new, non-UK sequences in 501Y.V1 (B.1.1.7) from the Netherlands, Denmark, Australia, Spain, Norway, Germany, the USA, & Switzerland, and from Turkey and Ecuador for the first time.2/16 → https://is.gd/XM5v8a22:27
BrainstormNew from r/WorldNews: worldnews: UK plumber has helped over 2,000 vulnerable families fix heating and plumbing during the pandemic for free → https://is.gd/Jziis522:52
qkalli've been avoid this room for a bit but i'm back... 23:07
qkalllol23:07
Jigsyhttps://www.theguardian.com/law/2021/jan/17/jonathan-sumption-cancer-patient-life-less-valuable-others23:14
Jigsy%title23:14
BrainstormJigsy: From www.theguardian.com: Lord Sumption tells stage 4 cancer patient her life is 'less valuable' | Law | The Guardian23:14
Jigsy>[...] said he did not accept that “all lives are of equal value”.23:15
JigsyAll animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others.23:15
de-factodifficult topic https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Years_of_potential_life_lost23:28
Specdamn, 8.7 million person-years lost due to heart disease23:33
BrainstormNew from Emma Hodcroft: @firefoxx66: For a fantastic article featuring some great scientists covering *a lot* of the most common questions people asking about the new variants, children, & schools - read on!#SARSCoV2 #COVID19 #schoolclosures → https://is.gd/pvB7bz23:53

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