| LjL | hmmm looks like Covidly had a drop in totals for India, Brainstorm doesn't like that | 00:01 |
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| LjL | i will reset the database, it may result in a bit of spam about countries that it already reported on | 00:01 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews: worldnews: India elections: Narendra Modi's party BJP defeated in battleground West Bengal. It failed to win a key state in elections held amid record deaths and cases of coronavirus. → https://is.gd/1rhvp3 | 00:03 |
| spybert | de-facto: Looks like Canada has about the same infection rate now as the US, just across the border. | 00:04 |
| LjL | "okay so you can reopen the border" "no you first" "no you" | 00:05 |
| spybert | Might want to look at local infection rates though, I was looking at national figures. There might be a lot of anti-vaxxers and mask refusers in border states. | 00:06 |
| CoronaBot | /r/covid19: SARS-CoV-2 antibodies remain detectable 12 months after infection and antibody magnitude is associated with age and COVID-19 severity (82 votes) | https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.04.27.21256207v1 | https://redd.it/n3cnlo | 00:30 |
| de-facto | http://offloop.net/covid19/?default=EU;US;Canada&byPopulation=yes&cumulative=no&smooth=yes | 00:34 |
| de-facto | ok seems like Canada is having a decline since mid of April after its steep rise | 00:35 |
| de-facto | still above US and slower decline than it | 00:36 |
| ryouma | would be great if cumulative could take into account antibodies (not saying it could) | 00:37 |
| de-facto | so roughly for each 4 cases in Canada there are 3 cases in US right now | 00:38 |
| LjL | yeah it can't, there are no official antibody numbers for most countries | 00:38 |
| LjL | i was looking at italy on offloop... well, at US vs Italy, but then i paid attention to Italy alone | 00:38 |
| LjL | non-cumulative | 00:38 |
| ryouma | or even infected within a certain time numbers | 00:38 |
| LjL | i noticed that when you factor out the various spike, there is a sort of general growing trend anyway | 00:39 |
| LjL | it might be because each time the virus is better adapted | 00:39 |
| de-facto | last summer there were some antibody surveys in Germany, they found 4-6 times more cases than officially detected via PCR, but than in the first wave (spring 2020) there was not as much testing in Germany as we have it right now (only symptomatic or contacts back then) | 00:39 |
| LjL | anyway we're now "out of a spike" but with numbers that are double the numbers we had in the first wave | 00:39 |
| LjL | (granted, we weren't testing enough) | 00:39 |
| LjL | and last summer we had practically no cases for quite a while | 00:40 |
| LjL | de-facto, they still only test symptomatic people here or contacts, you won't get tested just because you feel like it | 00:40 |
| LjL | here* | 00:40 |
| de-facto | here i could go to city at any daytime and get a quicktest and if its positive i get an PCR | 00:41 |
| de-facto | when its negative i could go into stores with the certificate | 00:41 |
| ryouma | why is arizona wihtout testing showing up | 00:42 |
| de-facto | what i mean is that those 4-6 fold seroprevalence compared to PCR prevalence probably does not apply anymore, we need new surveys | 00:42 |
| LjL | de-facto, you can't go to stores without a negative test certificate? | 00:43 |
| de-facto | not right now, except supermarkets and pharmacies | 00:43 |
| LjL | oh wow | 00:43 |
| de-facto | otherwise stores would have to be closed | 00:43 |
| LjL | well, they've been open here again for quite a while... :\ | 00:44 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews: worldnews: Canada Will Require Using A Vaccine Passport For Entry → https://is.gd/6tTN7h | 00:44 |
| LjL | i mean, you know italy's measures aren't uniform. but in Lombardy and in most regions, they have | 00:44 |
| de-facto | to be honest i dont think the infecitons happen in the stores, i think they would happen more in crowds and queues | 00:44 |
| ryouma | what is a vaccine passport? i know there has always been vaccine certifications required for visas. | 00:44 |
| LjL | ryouma, just a fancier name for the same thing except now it will be required everywhere by everyone | 00:44 |
| de-facto | or public transport if its crowded due to people going for shopping again etc | 00:44 |
| LjL | and the EU and presumably other groups of countries are agreeing to a common format for it | 00:45 |
| ryouma | why isn't the hvac industry going bananas. or is it. | 00:45 |
| LjL | in the EU it will basically be a QR code, from what i understand, encoding whether you have been vaccinated, have had COVID, or have a recent negative test | 00:45 |
| de-facto | yeah vaccine passports dont get me started on those, they currently are discussing taking back all restrictions for vaccinated | 00:45 |
| de-facto | question: where is the scientific study proving that vaccinated 1) cant be infected 2) cant transmit the infection? | 00:46 |
| LjL | nowhere is there such a study with stringent results | 00:46 |
| de-facto | reminder: AZ was so poor against B.1.351 that SA did not want it | 00:46 |
| LjL | but i don't think that's the issue honestly | 00:46 |
| LjL | if AZ is poor, it's going to act poorly anyway | 00:46 |
| LjL | even if people don't travel, B.1.351 is already everywhere | 00:47 |
| LjL | if AZ doesn't stop infections from it, it will "just" become prevalent | 00:47 |
| de-facto | vaccines might protect against severe progressions, but that does not mean that all restrictions could just be taken back for vaccinated with any vaccine against any VoC | 00:47 |
| LjL | ah right you're talking about the restrictions now, not the vaccines | 00:47 |
| de-facto | but they are jurists, they are too stupid to understand probabilities | 00:47 |
| LjL | but look, when do you think restrictions *could* be loosened? if you tell people "only when we have zero cases", everyone will laugh at you. you need to find a solution that people will take on board | 00:48 |
| Robinson | Ye | 00:48 |
| de-facto | yes i know, but they have to tell people the truth, otherwise they lose their trust | 00:49 |
| de-facto | what if they will have to put back restrictions because they realize vaccines have breakthrough by some mutants? | 00:49 |
| LjL | then they'll say "we couldn't anticipate this, hold tight for longer, we'll get out of it" | 00:50 |
| LjL | and again, i guess :\ | 00:50 |
| de-facto | yeah well vaccinations might help with bringing down incidence, but they cant replace distancing | 00:51 |
| de-facto | i guess we will see, but i think its a mistake to take back restrictions for vaccinated | 00:51 |
| dTal | so what, we distance forever then | 00:52 |
| de-facto | (apart from it being unfair to the ones fhat did not get an offer yet) | 00:52 |
| de-facto | not distancing forever, but for as long as we have high incidence scenario | 00:52 |
| de-facto | reproduction = contact_rate * transmissibility * duration_of_infectiousness, when we trade contact_rate for transmissibility * duraction_of_infectiousness we might end up just at the same reproduction than before | 00:54 |
| de-facto | but if we dont allow contact_rate to increase for vaccinated it will bring down reproduction and therefore incidence hence help the whole population to come faster and closer to the common goal to get rid of the problems with the damn virus | 00:55 |
| de-facto | in fact the current generation of vaccines never were designed to prevent transmission, with their intramuscular injection they were designed to prevent severe progressions, and that is what they achieve | 00:56 |
| de-facto | for vaccines that prevent transmission we would need some that induce IgA antibody response on the mucus of the nasal and pharyngeal regions | 00:57 |
| de-facto | i think they are in the pipeline | 00:58 |
| ryouma | i have a problem with authorities catering to the status quo opinions of the masses instead of trying to communicate with them the truth. they shouldn't say oh you don't have to do whatever anymore because you are vaccinated as an inducement to vaccinate if there is not a good reason for it otherwise. | 01:00 |
| ryouma | i think they have a positive duty to inform the public of the truth even if the public currently does not accept it. | 01:00 |
| ryouma | otherwise leaders follow and you get recursive insanity | 01:01 |
| de-facto | i guess we will see, but i dont like that politicians are just playing with the fire and the only effective weapon we have against COVID, why do they risk import and transmission of evasive mutants breaking through vaccinations with allowing all vaccinated (with any vaccine for any time) to drop containment measures completely | 01:01 |
| de-facto | ryouma, yeah thats exactly the reason they want to take back restrictions, to motivate more people to go for a vaccination | 01:02 |
| ryouma | i thinkt hat's wrong. i think they need to educate. | 01:02 |
| ryouma | i know it is a tall order | 01:02 |
| de-facto | i am pretty sure more than enough people will happily take a vaccination offer just to mitigate the risk of severe progression for themselves | 01:03 |
| de-facto | and right now there are not enough vaccines for everyone anyhow | 01:03 |
| ryouma | but you kind of have to do it. a lot of places wil just sort of keep the same reproduction rate if you don't | 01:03 |
| de-facto | supply wont be able to satisfy the demand for long time | 01:04 |
| de-facto | yes thats the only thing that matters: incidence | 01:05 |
| de-facto | everything else is just a consequence of that | 01:05 |
| de-facto | although https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/israel/ gives some hope, their cases go down and down | 01:09 |
| de-facto | i really do hope that it will continue like that for them (and everyone else at that level of population vaccination) | 01:10 |
| de-facto | that really looks very good, question is how many evasive mutants are involved (or hopefully wont become involved) | 01:11 |
| de-facto | but we need to have scientific studies evaluating the vaccine breakthrough risks for all the VoCs and also transmission probability | 01:14 |
| de-facto | only based on that politicians should be allowed to take back proven to be effective containment measures | 01:15 |
| de-facto | everything else is gambling and thats not their job in this situation | 01:15 |
| LjL | de-facto, i think mRNA vaccines will turn out to prevent transmission fine (and things are already pointing in that direction) | 01:16 |
| LjL | if they don't with variants, well that's a problem with variants not vaccines that weren't designed for them | 01:16 |
| de-facto | well yeah they might be working fine for the current variants and the studies evaluating that at their peak protection value, but both will erode the protection with time, waning off immunity as well as bruteforcing mutants getting better and better at their evasion | 01:19 |
| de-facto | LjL, so yeah when we are lucky mRNA vaccinations will bring down incidence fast enough that there just is not enough pathogen in the population anymore for that to happen, hence infection chains dying off, but that is a question of vaccination rates vs incidence | 01:21 |
| de-facto | the vaccinations did a fantastic job at preventing fatal outcomes though so far, and probably that will continue like that | 01:22 |
| de-facto | that by itself already is a really awesome achievement, saving a LOT of lives | 01:24 |
| de-facto | i am just against starting to not take it serious anymore just because we have something that works for now | 01:25 |
| de-facto | afaik UK does NOT take back restrictions for vaccinated, instead they investigate breakthroughs | 01:25 |
| de-facto | THAT is how we should do it aswell imho | 01:25 |
| de-facto | btw out of curiosity are there any breakthrough studies for B.1.617 in India? | 01:28 |
| de-facto | i.e. do we know how well their fully vaccinated are protected against infection and hospitalization with B.1.617? | 01:28 |
| de-facto | same for P.1 in Brazil | 01:29 |
| de-facto | .title https://www.nature.com/articles/s41577-021-00556-5 | 01:35 |
| Brainstorm | de-facto: From www.nature.com: Will SARS-CoV-2 variants of concern affect the promise of vaccines? | Nature Reviews Immunology | 01:35 |
| de-facto | i think the good news are that once we managed to bring down incidence worldwide it also means bruteforcing the immunity is reduced hence the likelihood of evasive mutants emerging much lower | 01:40 |
| de-facto | but that means politicians have to stop sabotaging that by ensuring incidence stays high with immediately opening once a situation is somewhat stabilized | 01:41 |
| LjL | i see "Michigan is now hospitalizing more people under 40 than those over 80 for COVID-19" https://www.mlive.com/public-interest/2021/05/michigan-is-now-hospitalizing-more-people-under-40-than-those-over-80-for-covid-19.html | 01:48 |
| LjL | i think we must be careful when spikes seem small but in reality they are "large" spikes that are lessened by the vaccine, but only on certain categories of people | 01:48 |
| LjL | it's good that the elderly are more protected now, but not so good if we take that as an excuse to let a similar number of younger people have serious disease | 01:49 |
| LjL | "oh but young people don't often get serious disease", they'll get it pretty often if it's ravaging through them | 01:49 |
| de-facto | yes 100% ack | 01:50 |
| de-facto | and the problem with tolerating large spikes is that when the only limiting factor taken into consideration is not to overwhelm the healthcare system we ignore that for the younger people there are exponentially more infections per one hospitalized case than for the elderly before | 01:52 |
| de-facto | hence exponentially more breeding of mutants if incidence is just ignored | 01:52 |
| ryouma | what do you mean by exponentially | 01:52 |
| rpifan | mutations* | 01:56 |
| rpifan | no xmen corona | 01:56 |
| de-facto | disease severity probably is an exponential function of age, just as are fatal progressions | 01:57 |
| rpifan | well france is gonan reopen its stuff | 01:58 |
| rpifan | with over 400 cases por 100,000 | 01:58 |
| ryouma | it is a possible concern if populations get mild less monitored versions in large numbers. long covid can result from those also. and if propaganda succeeds in downplaying long covid, then nobody will care enough to prevent it. and then the nubmers of both will rise and rise and rise. | 01:58 |
| ryouma | elon musk said it's just a cold. like that. | 01:59 |
| darsie | ryouma: Got a trusted source for that? | 02:03 |
| ryouma | darsie: for what? | 02:03 |
| darsie | elon musk said it's just a cold. | 02:03 |
| ryouma | no | 02:03 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews: worldnews: Thousands in Brazil rally for President Jair Bolsonaro, ignoring coronavirus rules → https://is.gd/i3L8tl | 02:04 |
| darsie | "My symptoms are that of a minor cold, which is no surprise, since a coronavirus is a type of cold." https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1327743762273955841 | 02:05 |
| darsie | Coronaviruses are a group of viruses known for causing the common cold. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_cold | 02:06 |
| ryouma | darsie: i hope i did not turn my recollection of htat more nuanced statement into what i said. i recall him downplaying the pandemic, telling his employees they can go home if it makes them feel less anxious, but that he will not go home. that was the context. wha tyou are quoting is different. | 02:06 |
| de-facto | maybe Musk should go to India telling them that little secret, maybe it helps them with not consuming so much oxygen? | 02:07 |
| ryouma | i mean, i know i did not turn that statemet into what i aid. i hope i did not turn a similar nuanced statement intow hat i said. | 02:07 |
| de-facto | (sorry for being sarcastic) | 02:07 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Malawi: +1 cases (now 34096) since 2 hours ago | 02:08 |
| ryouma | https://observer.com/2020/03/elon-musk-tesla-staff-letter-coronavirus-covid19-lockdown/ --- “My best guess, for what it is worth, based on the latest Center for Disease Control data, is that confirmed Covid-19 (this specific form of the common cold) cases will not exceed 0.1 percent of the U.S. population.” | 02:11 |
| ryouma | not a great example but still | 02:12 |
| darsie | ok | 02:13 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews: worldnews: India's Covid vaccine shortage: The desperate wait gets longer → https://is.gd/ueo1gn | 02:15 |
| de-facto | tbh i was thinking highly about Musk before his statements about SARS-CoV-2, i am glad i see him clearer now | 02:19 |
| ryouma | it was mindblowing whatever it was he said that was recorded in this channel. there might be quotes if there are archives | 02:20 |
| darsie | gn | 02:24 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Brazil: +28935 cases (now 14.8 million), +446 deaths (now 407326) since 2 hours ago — France: +4944 cases (now 5.7 million), +24 deaths (now 104843) since 2 hours ago — Netherlands: +2757 cases (now 1.5 million), +2 deaths (now 17297) since 2 hours ago — Ukraine: +2578 cases (now 2.1 million), +81 deaths (now 45440) since 2 hours ago | 02:33 |
| LjL | ... and still no india | 02:33 |
| Robinson | Who wanna know about India anyways | 02:36 |
| LjL | me | 02:36 |
| Robinson | Do they even count the real stats lol | 02:39 |
| LjL | Robinson, yes, Brainstorm has literally a crystal ball | 02:46 |
| LjL | %8ball does India have a lot more cases than stated? | 02:46 |
| Brainstorm | LjL, My sources say no | 02:46 |
| LjL | be careful with it though, it's crystla | 02:46 |
| Robinson | Lol | 02:46 |
| ryouma | plastic with water inside | 02:46 |
| LjL | shush | 02:47 |
| ryouma | last epidemiologist post on msf? https://blogs.msf.org/blogs/professions/epidemiologist | 02:49 |
| ryouma | " MSF epidemiologists develop data collection systems—from chart forms to database management systems—for a wide range of project health services and serve as the data focal point for a project. In conjunction with the medical team, they will problem-solve data collection issues to ensure good quality data that does not interfere with rapid patient care." | 02:50 |
| ryouma | so what are theyd oing | 02:50 |
| Robinson | Tbh the thought of lockdown sucks it's been hard time for business | 02:51 |
| LjL | Robinson, it will be a harder time if the virus just keeps ravaging everywhere | 03:08 |
| Robinson | Maybe it's just pneumonia | 03:09 |
| LjL | the countries whose economies have done best (or at least the least bad) in this year have been the ones that got the virus under control, often with tight lockdowns | 03:09 |
| LjL | what | 03:09 |
| Robinson | The virus just cause pneumonia | 03:11 |
| Robinson | At worse imo | 03:11 |
| LjL | except it doesn't? | 03:12 |
| LjL | what the hell are you talking about | 03:12 |
| LjL | the virus does a lot more than causing pneumonia | 03:12 |
| LjL | it would make sense to make that claim in like... february 2020 | 03:12 |
| LjL | also even if it "just" caused pneumonia, you may have failed to notice it's the kind of pneumonia that's disproportionately deadly | 03:12 |
| Robinson | I don't really follow up on it's effects since I've got infected with it twice lol | 03:12 |
| LjL | well if you haven't had any lingering effect, that's lucky for you, but many no | 03:13 |
| LjL | many do* | 03:13 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews: worldnews: Bill gates says covid vaccine tech should not be shared with India , India being the largest vaccine manufacturer in the world. → https://is.gd/MC6AU1 | 03:26 |
| ryouma | Robinson: yes, lockdown sucks | 03:26 |
| ryouma | pandemics suck | 03:26 |
| Robinson | Lol | 03:26 |
| ryouma | it does not follow that 18:11 <Robinson> At worse imo | 03:27 |
| Robinson | I didn't got your point mate | 03:27 |
| ryouma | lockdown sucks. i think it sucks that you have issues because of lockdown. the root cause is the pandemic. | 03:28 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Mauritania: +19 cases (now 18448) since 3 hours ago | 03:29 |
| Robinson | Yeah | 03:35 |
| de-facto | i bet business owners in Australia or NZ like that their government does its job | 03:43 |
| de-facto | to be honest sometimes here i get the impression that management tries to prevent that incidence comes down too much, they always rise the threshold above a value where tracing would have any chance to bring it down without additional containment and as soon as incidence goes slightly below the threshold they rush extremely fast with opening everything | 04:00 |
| de-facto | so its almost like if they ensure with much care that case numbers never get in a range where tracing could take them down further | 04:01 |
| de-facto | i know that does not make sense, but since when do their decisions have to make sense? | 04:02 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Germany: +655 cases (now 3.4 million) since 4 hours ago — South Korea: +488 cases (now 123728), +1 deaths (now 1834) since 4 hours ago — Peru: +153 cases (now 1.8 million), +6 deaths (now 61795) since 4 hours ago — Denmark: +131 cases (now 253043) since 4 hours ago | 04:06 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Mexico: +1093 cases (now 2.3 million), +65 deaths (now 217233) since 4 hours ago — Bahamas: +66 cases (now 10519), +10 deaths (now 209) since 4 hours ago — Suriname: +61 cases (now 10489), +3 deaths (now 207) since 4 hours ago — Norway: +46 cases (now 113469) since 4 hours ago | 04:31 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews: worldnews: Massive underreporting in MP : Govt says 104 Covid - 19 deaths in Bhopal, Crematoriums says 2,557 → https://is.gd/09Cj0Z | 04:48 |
| de-facto | oh really, what a big surprise, who would have thought that | 04:51 |
| ryouma | it is like the us all over again | 04:57 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Paraguay: +1520 cases (now 282543), +96 deaths (now 6572) since 5 hours ago — Panama: +260 cases (now 365104), +3 deaths (now 6238) since 5 hours ago | 05:08 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for St. Vin. and Gren.: +18 cases (now 1882) since 5 hours ago — New Zealand: +4 cases (now 2622) since 5 hours ago — Barbados: +3 cases (now 3866) since 5 hours ago | 05:33 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews: worldnews: Malaysia reports first case of Indian COVID-19 variant → https://is.gd/je9zFF | 05:38 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Indian Express (Health): Food & Wine: COVID-19 diet: Khichdi is a ‘safe’ option; other healthy foods that patients can eat → https://is.gd/LGQtR9 | 05:48 |
| Brainstorm | New from EurekAlert!: Screening healthcare workers could serve as early warning system for future viruses: New research has shown that COVID-19 infections in healthcare workers during the first wave of the pandemic provided an accurate sample of the general population, suggesting that data from healthcare workers could be used to estimate the severity [... want %more?] → https://is.gd/ngaJOV | 06:28 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Belgium: +2128 cases (now 995562), +33 deaths (now 24291) since 6 hours ago — Germany: +2270 cases (now 3.4 million), +26 deaths (now 83607) since 6 hours ago | 06:42 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Indian Express: World: Russian attempts to expand Sputnik vaccine set off discord in Europe → https://is.gd/6hLgEU | 06:49 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Sao Paulo, Brazil: +5323 cases (now 2.9 million), +117 deaths (now 97058) since 7 hours ago — Bogota, Colombia: +4400 cases (now 797937), +74 deaths (now 15766) since 7 hours ago — Lima, Peru: +4225 cases (now 833226), +229 deaths (now 27188) since 7 hours ago — Pakistan: +4213 cases (now 834146), +79 deaths (now 18149) since 7 hours ago | 07:38 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews: worldnews: India’s Media Is Partly to Blame for Its COVID Tragedy | Time → https://is.gd/RAqjP4 | 08:00 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Thailand: +2041 cases (now 71025), +31 deaths (now 276) since 7 hours ago — Honduras: +803 cases (now 213970), +16 deaths (now 5334) since 7 hours ago | 08:03 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Indian Express (Health): Health: Bhagyashree pens note on ‘prioritising one’s own health’ amid pandemic → https://is.gd/oTwzGy | 08:20 |
| overseer[m] | corona feku | 08:35 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for India: +255479 cases (now 19.8 million), +3512 deaths (now 218959) since 8 hours ago — El Salvador: +10 deaths (now 2134) since 8 hours ago | 08:40 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews: worldnews: Argentina: hospitals full as covid cases hit 3 million → https://is.gd/FUG1Ol | 08:41 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Cambodia: +841 cases (now 15361), +3 deaths (now 106) since 8 hours ago — Turks and Caicos: +3 cases (now 2393) since 8 hours ago | 08:59 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/Coronavirus: Daily Discussion Thread | May 03, 2021: Please refer to our Wiki for more information on COVID-19 and our sub. You can find answers to frequently asked questions in our FAQ , where there is valuable information such as our: → https://is.gd/pBsOoe | 09:12 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews: worldnews: Pfizer Donates $70 Million Worth COVID-19 Treatment Drugs To India → https://is.gd/dqCeSu | 09:22 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Uzbekistan: +363 cases (now 92006), +1 deaths (now 653) since 9 hours ago — Kyrgyzstan: +277 cases (now 96337), +3 deaths (now 1622) since 9 hours ago | 09:36 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Lithuania: +657 cases (now 250337), +6 deaths (now 3956) since 9 hours ago | 10:01 |
| Brainstorm | New from Reddit (test): CoronavirusEU: How the EU Got Its COVID Vaccine Program Back on Track. Just three months on from January’s low point, the European Union’s vaccination effort has rebounded, predicting 70% of adults protected by mid-July. → https://is.gd/lWQXjW | 10:22 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Maharashtra, India: +56647 cases (now 4.7 million), +669 deaths (now 70284) since 10 hours ago — Karnataka, India: +37733 cases (now 1.6 million), +217 deaths (now 16011) since 10 hours ago — Kerala, India: +31959 cases (now 1.6 million), +49 deaths (now 5405) since 10 hours ago [... want %more?] | 10:38 |
| rpifan | thats really disappoining | 10:39 |
| Brainstorm | New from StatNews: WHO’s Tedros plans to seek reelection, setting up referendum on his leadership: EXCLUSIVE: Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus, the director-general of the WHO, plans to run for a second five-year term, setting up a referendum on the agency's handling of the Covid-19 pandemic under… → https://is.gd/d2cFZo | 10:43 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews: worldnews: A Chinese Communist Party-linked account mocked India's Covid crisis on social media. It backfired → https://is.gd/OEuiAD | 10:53 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Russia: +8489 cases (now 4.8 million), +336 deaths (now 111198) since 11 hours ago — Philippines: +7242 cases (now 1.1 million), +94 deaths (now 17525) since 11 hours ago — Bolivia: +1034 cases (now 307561), +12 deaths (now 13021) since 11 hours ago — Armenia: +145 cases (now 217008) since 11 hours ago | 11:16 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Poland: +2523 cases (now 2.8 million), +37 deaths (now 68105) since 11 hours ago — Czechia: +505 cases (now 1.6 million), +22 deaths (now 29365) since 11 hours ago — Uganda: +68 cases (now 41973) since 11 hours ago — US Virgin Is: +45 cases (now 3138) since 11 hours ago | 11:34 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Croatia: +349 cases (now 335522), +36 deaths (now 7218) since 12 hours ago — Finland: +117 cases (now 87345) since 12 hours ago — N. Cyprus: +79 cases (now 6361), +1 deaths (now 32) since 12 hours ago — S. Sudan: +19 cases (now 10602) since 12 hours ago | 12:12 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Latvia: +203 cases (now 119953), +10 deaths (now 2154) since 12 hours ago — Slovakia: +130 cases (now 383228), +41 deaths (now 11807) since 12 hours ago — Singapore: +17 cases (now 61235) since 12 hours ago — Nigeria: +14 cases (now 165167) since 12 hours ago | 12:30 |
| CoronaBot | /r/coronavirus: Israel : Only 13 new COVID cases diagnosed in 24-hours, lowest in 14 months (10047 votes) | https://www.timesofisrael.com/only-13-new-covid-cases-diagnosed-in-24-hours-lowest-in-14-months/ | https://redd.it/n3hwlk | 12:35 |
| Brainstorm | New from Politico: Moderna commits up to 500M vaccine doses to COVAX: Under the deal, Moderna will work with Gavi, the Vaccine Alliance, to supply 34 million doses to COVAX in late 2021. → https://is.gd/A8vBiW | 12:35 |
| de-facto | wow Israel is really giving us hope these days | 12:39 |
| de-facto | its really good to know that a bit of determination in fighting this can be successful | 12:41 |
| Brainstorm | New from ECDC: Data on the daily number of new reported COVID-19 cases and deaths by EU/EEA country: The downloadable data file is updated daily and contains the latest available public data on COVID-19. Each row/entry contains the number of new cases and deaths reported per day and per country in the EU/EEA. → https://is.gd/tBASDi | 13:05 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for UAE: +1772 cases (now 525567), +3 deaths (now 1596) since 13 hours ago — Bangladesh: +1739 cases (now 763682), +65 deaths (now 11644) since 13 hours ago — Romania: +682 cases (now 1.1 million), +98 deaths (now 28380) since 13 hours ago | 13:08 |
| de-facto | .title https://imgur.com/a/mpON2hT https://i.imgur.com/c4t6U6j.png source: https://www.rki.de/DE/Content/InfAZ/N/Neuartiges_Coronavirus/DESH/Bericht_VOC_2021-04-28.pdf?__blob=publicationFile | 13:32 |
| Brainstorm | de-facto: From imgur.com: COVID Germany: Trends for Variants of Interest (VoI) and Variants of Concern (VoC) - Album on Imgur | 13:32 |
| -RSSBot[LjLmatrix- Feed: Calendario prova pratica selezione pubblica, per titoli ed esami, riservata a persone con disabilità, per tirocini formativi di 6 mesi, assunzione a tempo pieno ed indeterminato di 6 unità personale della PCM - “Addetto ai servizi interni”, B - F1 ( https://www.governo.it/it/articolo/calendario-prova-pratica-selezione-pubblica-titoli-ed-esami-riservata-persone-con-disabilit ) | 13:34 | |
| de-facto | It looks like since Calendar Week 13 the take over by the britisch VoC B.1.1.7 stopped for some reason | 13:35 |
| de-facto | How come? are there other VoCs with similar increased reproduction hidden under "Other" category? | 13:36 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Malaysia: +2500 cases (now 417512), +18 deaths (now 1551) since 13 hours ago — Oman: +1093 cases (now 196900), +10 deaths (now 2053) since 13 hours ago — Austria: +1091 cases (now 623201), +15 deaths (now 10260) since 13 hours ago — Belarus: +834 cases (now 361897), +10 deaths (now 2572) since 13 hours ago | 13:45 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Iran: +20732 cases (now 2.6 million), +391 deaths (now 72875) since 14 hours ago — Iceland: +11 cases (now 6483) since 14 hours ago — Guam: +8 cases (now 7989) since 14 hours ago — Burkina Faso: +5 cases (now 13324) since 14 hours ago | 14:03 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Indian Express (Health): Health: COVID-19: Ayush Ministry recommends preventive Ayurveda measures → https://is.gd/Z6iMDL | 14:07 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews: worldnews: Covering India’s Covid crisis: ‘Hundreds of journalists have lost their lives’ → https://is.gd/60ILsb | 14:27 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for India: +378224 cases (now 19.9 million) since 14 hours ago — Libya: +464 cases (now 178335), +8 deaths (now 3047) since 14 hours ago — Slovenia: +211 cases (now 241883), +6 deaths (now 4269) since 14 hours ago — Madagascar: +121 cases (now 37751), +11 deaths (now 677) since 14 hours ago | 14:41 |
| de-facto | https://outbreak.info/situation-reports?pango=B.1.620 | 14:49 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Nepal: +7388 cases (now 343418), +37 deaths (now 3362) since 14 hours ago — Denmark: +761 cases (now 253673) since 14 hours ago — Ghana: +82 cases (now 92683) since 14 hours ago — San Marino: +1 cases (now 5067) since 14 hours ago | 14:59 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews: worldnews: New Zealand fires nine border workers who refused Covid vaccine → https://is.gd/LKZzdI | 15:08 |
| Brainstorm | New from StatNews: STAT+: Sarepta’s more potent Duchenne treatment shows promise, greater toxicity, in small study: Sarepta Therapeutics said a second-generation medicine for patients with a certain type of Duchenne muscular dystrophy showed improved performance in laboratory tests over the biotech’s marketed treatment. → https://is.gd/gFC9ho | 15:18 |
| Brainstorm | New from StatNews: STAT+: Pharmalittle: U.S. trade rep to talk with WTO about IP and Covid-19 vaccines; WHO’s Tedros plans to seek re-election: Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus, the director-general of the World Health Organization, plans to run for a second five-year term, setting up a referendum on the WHO’s handling of the Covid-19 pandemic. → https://is.gd/Z6dlwc | 15:28 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Indonesia: +4730 cases (now 1.7 million), +153 deaths (now 45949) since 15 hours ago — Switzerland: +3978 cases (now 663952), +14 deaths (now 10648) since 15 hours ago | 15:37 |
| Brainstorm | New from EMA: What's new: Medicine: Human medicines European public assessment report (EPAR): Helicobacter Test INFAI, 13C-urea, Breath Tests,Helicobacter Infections, Date of authorisation: 14/08/1997, Revision: 18, Status: Authorised → https://is.gd/yHp6De | 15:38 |
| de-facto | .title https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0250853 | 15:39 |
| Brainstorm | de-facto: From journals.plos.org: Investigation of SARS-CoV-2 infection in dogs and cats of humans diagnosed with COVID-19 in Rio de Janeiro, Brazil | 15:39 |
| de-facto | "Between May and October 2020, 39 pets (29 dogs and 10 cats) of 21 patients were investigated. Nine dogs (31%) and four cats (40%) from 10 (47.6%) households were infected with or seropositive for SARS-CoV-2. Animals tested positive from 11 to 51 days after the human index COVID-19 case onset of symptoms. Three dogs tested positive twice within 14, 30, and 31 days apart. SARS-CoV-2 neutralizing antibodies were detected in one dog (3.4%) | 15:40 |
| de-facto | and two cats (20%). In this study, six out of thirteen animals either infected with or seropositive for SARS-CoV-2 have developed mild but reversible signs of the disease. Using logistic regression analysis, neutering, and sharing bed with the ill owner were associated with pet infection." | 15:40 |
| de-facto | "The presence and persistence of SARS-CoV-2 infection have been identified in dogs and cats from households with human COVID-19 cases in Rio de Janeiro, Brazil. People with COVID-19 should avoid close contact with their pets during the time of their illness" | 15:42 |
| de-facto | passage through animals, and possible jump back into family households, great :( | 15:43 |
| de-facto | what else could we try to breed new mutants? | 15:43 |
| genera | cases full of minks? | 15:44 |
| de-facto | oh yeah minks for everyone | 15:44 |
| genera | only if you take 10! | 15:46 |
| de-facto | cats, dogs, rodents, minks, why not bats themselves? | 15:47 |
| de-facto | no sarcasm aside, this is concerning because every animal got slightly different proteins and immune system compared to humans, hence a jump in species is a jump in selective pressure and gives rise to a new "direction" of mutations | 15:49 |
| de-facto | therefore when jumping back to human population probably will have changed enough to evade the pre-existing immunity either by recovery from ancestor variants or vaccinations and then be able to spread much faster in such a partly immune population compared to non-species jumped variants | 15:51 |
| CoronaBot | /r/covid19: Elevated blood glucose levels as a primary risk factor for the severity of COVID-19 (80 votes) | https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.04.29.21256294v1 | https://redd.it/n3redl | 16:06 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews: worldnews: Germany's Oktoberfest to be cancelled for second year due to pandemic → https://is.gd/vLhmBq | 16:10 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Serbia: +1249 cases (now 693169), +23 deaths (now 6432) since 16 hours ago — Zambia: +29 cases (now 91722) since 16 hours ago | 16:14 |
| -RSSBot[LjLmatrix- Feed: Programma straordinario per la riqualificazione urbana e la sicurezza delle periferie – aggiornamento della composizione del Gruppo di monitoraggio e della Segreteria tecnica ( https://www.governo.it/it/articolo/programma-straordinario-la-riqualificazione-urbana-e-la-sicurezza-delle-periferie ) | 16:14 | |
| Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews: worldnews: Chinese post mocking India’s COVID-19 deaths pulled after outrage → https://is.gd/8INn7E | 16:20 |
| Brainstorm | New from WebMD: It's Getting Tougher to Find a Doctor in Rural America: Health care in rural America has become ever more scarce during the coronavirus pandemic, with folks finding it increasingly difficult to find a doctor or get to a hospital. → https://is.gd/t3z5fl | 16:31 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Portugal: +180 cases (now 837457) since 16 hours ago — Netherlands: +7196 cases (now 1.5 million) since 16 hours ago — Afghanistan: +12 cases (now 60300) since 16 hours ago — Bhutan: +8 cases (now 1119) since 16 hours ago | 16:45 |
| de-facto | correction: i said yesterday one would require a negative rapid antigen test for shopping in stores that sell non-essential articles, idiotic management dropped that motivation for citizens to get tested, no test required anymore. this management is a complete disaster in every way | 16:54 |
| de-facto | probably as usual, politicians are nothing more than prostitutes for the lobbyists, instead of doing their job and ensure incidence continues to go down they do the opposite and ensure it would not go down far enough that tracing could regain control over it | 16:55 |
| de-facto | i am really pissed with their failure, it almost looks like they are sabotaging the interests of the citizens in bringing down further the infections by promoting testing | 16:56 |
| de-facto | also: WHY on earth do we still dont have MANDATORY tests at working places? there just has to be an "offer", but no mandatory tests | 16:57 |
| de-facto | their measures STILL are based on 1.5m distancing over a year into the pandemic | 16:58 |
| de-facto | why? because lobbyists want it that way. | 16:58 |
| de-facto | why does management follow the lobbyists rather than scientists in questions of transmissions paths? do they really think lobbyists competence outways the one from scientific research? | 17:00 |
| de-facto | imho this is outright criminal of management to behave like this, its against the common interest of the majority of citizens | 17:00 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Germany: +4263 cases (now 3.4 million), +51 deaths (now 83632) since 17 hours ago | 17:04 |
| Brainstorm | New from ClinicalTrials.gov: (news): Mouth-to-mouth Ventilation Efficiency Through Breathable Self-sterilizing Respirator During BLS in COVID-19 Pandemic (MOVE) → https://is.gd/5lui4l | 17:23 |
| Brainstorm | New from ClinicalTrials.gov: (news): Proxalutamide (GT0918) Treatment for Outpatients With Mild or Moderate COVID-19 Illness → https://is.gd/SDhvBT | 17:34 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Iraq: +5068 cases (now 1.1 million), +30 deaths (now 15566) since 17 hours ago — Montenegro: +99 cases (now 97718), +5 deaths (now 1510) since 17 hours ago — Myanmar: +4 cases (now 142842) since 17 hours ago | 17:41 |
| Brainstorm | New from WebMD: Why U.S. Hispanic People Got COVID at Higher Rates: A new study claims workplace exposure to the new coronavirus is a major reason for Hispanic Americans' disproportionately high COVID-19 death rate. → https://is.gd/td1FKi | 17:44 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Jordan: +149 cases (now 713050), +1 deaths (now 8898) since 18 hours ago — Kenya: +137 cases (now 160559), +18 deaths (now 2781) since 18 hours ago | 18:06 |
| Brainstorm | New from WebMD: U.S. Vaccine Safety System Still Has Gaps: With some 100 million Americans fully vaccinated, the U.S. is relying on a patchwork network of vaccine monitoring systems that lack the breadth and depth of large, population-based programs, experts said. → https://is.gd/pQDJR9 | 18:36 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Palestine: +565 cases (now 298203), +11 deaths (now 3283) since 18 hours ago — Luxembourg: +98 cases (now 67495), +4 deaths (now 800) since 18 hours ago — Canada: +3807 cases (now 1.2 million) since 18 hours ago | 18:38 |
| Brainstorm | New from WebMD: CVS, Walgreens Wasted More Vaccine Than Many States: More than 200,000 doses of covid vaccine have gone to waste since December, KHN has learned. Two national pharmacy chains account for most of it. → https://is.gd/zNVBKk | 18:47 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Ecuador: +747 cases (now 388046), +25 deaths (now 18765) since 19 hours ago — Qatar: +644 cases (now 207592), +8 deaths (now 480) since 19 hours ago — Ireland: +452 cases (now 250290) since 19 hours ago — French Guiana: +154 cases (now 19697), +3 deaths (now 104) since 19 hours ago | 19:15 |
| Brainstorm | New from Gazzetta Ufficiale italiana: GARANTE PER LA PROTEZIONE DEI DATI PERSONALI - DELIBERA 23 aprile 2021: Avvertimento in merito ai trattamenti effettuati relativamente allacertificazione verde per COVID-19, prevista dal decreto-legge 22aprile 2021, n. 52. (Provvedimento n. 156). (21A02576) → https://is.gd/9szjDx | 19:18 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Turkey: +24733 cases (now 4.9 million), +347 deaths (now 41191) since 19 hours ago — Italy: +5946 cases (now 4.1 million), +256 deaths (now 121433) since 19 hours ago — Greece: +2146 cases (now 348568), +134 deaths (now 10587) since 19 hours ago — Cuba: +932 cases (now 109625), +11 deaths (now 675) since 19 hours ago | 19:33 |
| Brainstorm | New from ScienceNews: The surge in U.S. coronavirus cases shows a shift in who’s getting sick: Younger, unvaccinated people are a rising share of COVID-19 cases, raising concerns anew that lack of vaccine access may hit minority populations hard. → https://is.gd/8owRiW | 19:38 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews: worldnews: Japanese nurses angered at call to work Tokyo Olympics amid COVID crisis → https://is.gd/L2rpEB | 19:59 |
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| de-facto | https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&u=https://www.sabes.it/de/news.asp?aktuelles_action%3D4%26aktuelles_article_id%3D655392 | 20:03 |
| de-facto | btw they allowed such tests for "ensuring" that no mutants would be imported from Mallorca. Afaik no quarantine after arrival if such a test would be negative. | 20:05 |
| de-facto | Politicians are a complete failure currently. | 20:06 |
| de-facto | oxek, "is there a place online where I could see all these posts that Brainstorm is making?" -> look in the logs at https://is.gd/xpld3l | 20:10 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Liberia: +11 cases (now 2110) since 20 hours ago — Burundi: +8 cases (now 4046) since 20 hours ago | 20:11 |
| de-facto | oxek, also there is ##coronalinks on freenode | 20:11 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Chile: +4895 cases (now 1.2 million), +98 deaths (now 26659) since 20 hours ago — Saudi Arabia: +953 cases (now 420301), +13 deaths (now 6992) since 20 hours ago — Algeria: +195 cases (now 122717), +10 deaths (now 3280) since 20 hours ago — Jamaica: +172 cases (now 46039), +6 deaths (now 790) since 20 hours ago | 20:36 |
| LjL | de-facto, they are no longer up to date, Doc kept them :( | 20:45 |
| LjL | uh except they are | 20:45 |
| LjL | secret presence! | 20:45 |
| Brainstorm | New from CIDRAP: COVID-19 Scan for May 03, 2021: COVID vaccines, variants B1351 variant clusters in US → https://is.gd/QlUiQd | 20:50 |
| LjL | oxek, also when i spot a link that seems particularly vital i add it to https://github.com/ljl-covid/links or at least ideally i should, if you think there's something that should be added feel free to point it out | 20:51 |
| LjL | also if you just want a txt of all the links Brainstorm ever sent i can probably grep it easily from my logs and pastebin it somewhere | 20:52 |
| CoronaBot | /r/coronavirus: Coronavirus Vaccine Updates: FDA expected to approve Pfizer vaccine for ages 12-15 this week (10152 votes) | https://abc7ny.com/covid-vaccine-india-coronavirus-charges/10572704/ | https://redd.it/n3u6kx | 21:02 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Sri Lanka: +990 cases (now 112743) since 21 hours ago — Afghanistan: +96 cases (now 60384) since 21 hours ago — Israel: +77 cases (now 838621), +1 deaths (now 6367) since 21 hours ago — France: +157 deaths (now 104976) since 21 hours ago | 21:13 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Spain: +16353 cases (now 3.5 million), +77 deaths (now 78293) since 21 hours ago | 21:38 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Lebanon: +249 cases (now 528457), +21 deaths (now 7345) since 21 hours ago | 22:33 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Maldives: +585 cases (now 31330) since 22 hours ago — Gabon: +126 cases (now 23201), +1 deaths (now 140) since 22 hours ago — Yemen: +22 cases (now 6363), +6 deaths (now 1239) since 22 hours ago — Mali: +22 cases (now 13937), +2 deaths (now 491) since 22 hours ago | 22:40 |
| Brainstorm | New from CIDRAP: US sees COVID-19 cases decline, travel increase: Stephanie Soucheray | News Reporter | CIDRAP News May 03, 2021 The 7-day average of new COVID-19 cases fell under 50,000 for the first time since October . → https://is.gd/1SSLYA | 22:53 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Cabo Verde: +421 cases (now 24548), +6 deaths (now 226) since 23 hours ago — Monaco: +8 cases (now 2465) since 23 hours ago — Comoros: +6 cases (now 3845) since 23 hours ago — Eritrea: +2 cases (now 3673), +2 deaths (now 12) since 23 hours ago | 23:11 |
| Brainstorm | New from CIDRAP: Global officials welcome steps to shore up COVAX gaps: Lisa Schnirring | News Editor | CIDRAP News May 03, 2021 A WHO official says COVAX has so far distributed about 20 million vaccine doses, prioritizing health workers. → https://is.gd/B8YN6k | 23:14 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Tunisia: +1004 cases (now 312747), +47 deaths (now 10915) since 23 hours ago — Ethiopia: +429 cases (now 258813), +31 deaths (now 3757) since 23 hours ago — Aruba: +29 cases (now 10679), +1 deaths (now 100) since 23 hours ago | 23:36 |
| Brainstorm | New from Medical Xpress: Canada recommends J&J vaccine for 30 years and over, probing first batch: A Canadian government advisory panel on Monday recommended the use of the Johnson & Johnson vaccine for people aged 30 years and over, despite blood clotting fears. → https://is.gd/VWp5t5 | 23:45 |
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