| Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews: worldnews: Customers call out banks for increasing fees during pandemic while profits are up → https://is.gd/Xupdui | 00:02 |
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| Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews: worldnews: COVID is surging in unvaccinated Taiwan. Australia should take heed → https://is.gd/kH4xOP | 00:12 |
| Brainstorm | New from Ars Technica: Science: Efficacy of Chinese vaccines is “not high”—officials back 3rd dose → https://is.gd/VPJa6J | 00:22 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Lancet (Online): [Correspondence] Time to reconceptualise health systems: The COVID-19 pandemic continues to expose tremendous vulnerabilities in every country's health system. It also highlights deficiencies in existing conceptualisations of health systems that overlook health security and health promotion. The global spread of COVID-19 [... want %more?] → https://is.gd/6w5YJq | 00:33 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Ivory Coast: +91 cases (now 47033) since a day ago — Germany: +4952 cases (now 3.7 million) since 18 hours ago | 01:35 |
| freenode_MephMay | Slash: Not really..? If i walked down to my local super market if to get say, pasta, rice, or toilet paper if i run out today, i wouldn't be able to. At all. Even if i travelled cross state. It's really that bad. Media is making covid way more dangerous then it actually is. | 01:44 |
| freenode_MephMay | Already is man. I've literally seen people selling singular rolls of toilet paper for $5-10AUD. | 01:44 |
| freenode_MephMay | Mefistofeles: Hey! We sorta have the same name. Neat. | 01:44 |
| freenode_MephMay | Slash, you say that, but Australia is a shit show at the moment, no one can buy toilet paper because mass hysteria, so people are buying all the toilet paper they can, and people who just want to get one or two packs can't even do that. | 01:44 |
| freenode_mefisto | %data Chile | 01:44 |
| freenode_mefisto | %data Colombia | 01:44 |
| freenode_mefisto | so underdiagnosed in those two, for sure | 01:44 |
| freenode_mefisto | MephMaybe: heh, hey | 01:44 |
| freenode_mefisto | %data US | 01:44 |
| freenode_mefisto | %data Germany | 01:44 |
| freenode_mefisto | yeah, most countries just cannot afford it | 01:44 |
| freenode_mefisto | slash_: I am, yes | 01:44 |
| freenode_mefisto | those numbers are wrong | 01:44 |
| Brainstorm | freenode_mefisto: In Chile, there have been 1.3 million confirmed cases (7.0% of the population) and 28548 deaths (2.1% of cases) as of 4 hours ago. 14.4 million tests were performed (9.3% positive). Fatality can be broadly expected to lie between 1.6% (assuming prevalence as in tests) and less than 2.2% (considering only deaths and recoveries). See https://offloop.net/covid19/?default=Chile for time series data. | 01:44 |
| freenode_mefisto | sure, but the assumption ofexponential growth for ever, up to may or whatever, is not a good assumption | 01:44 |
| freenode_mefisto | so those numbers are not conservative at all, as she claims, but quite the opposite | 01:44 |
| freenode_mefisto | containing it is not an option | 01:44 |
| freenode_mefisto | mitigating it is, as the WHO has said | 01:44 |
| freenode_mefisto | tinwhiskers: yes, just to be clear on the words :) and use the same words they use | 01:44 |
| LjL | okay sorry, that was supposed to join *one* matrix bridge bot | 01:44 |
| LjL | and also not sure i would have expected it to relay ancient messages | 01:45 |
| LjL | maybe i shouldn't play with dangerous toys | 01:46 |
| Bridgestorm | <LjL> test | 02:27 |
| LjL | test | 02:27 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Suriname: +191 cases (now 13302), +7 deaths (now 256) since 22 hours ago — Netherlands: +3243 cases (now 1.6 million), +8 deaths (now 17683) since 23 hours ago — United Kingdom: +2244 cases (now 4.5 million), +4 deaths (now 127854) since 23 hours ago — Canada: +1842 cases (now 1.4 million) since 23 hours ago | 02:37 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews: worldnews: Pfizer, Moderna order books full, India looks at long, uncertain wait | The shortage of vaccines has slowed or stopped vaccinations across the country → https://is.gd/EeKsh1 | 03:02 |
| Bridgestorm | <LjL> that's not very muted | 03:03 |
| Bridgestorm | <LjL> although, uhm | 03:03 |
| Bridgestorm | <LjL> oh it's +z | 03:03 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Liberia: +19 cases (now 2161), +1 deaths (now 86) since 5 days ago | 03:39 |
| qkall | %stats iran | 03:47 |
| Brainstorm | qkall: In Iran, there have been 2.8 million confirmed cases (3.4% of the population) and 78848 deaths (2.8% of cases) as of 14 hours ago. 19.1 million tests were performed (14.9% positive). Fatality can be broadly expected to lie between 0.6% (assuming prevalence as in tests) and less than 3.2% (considering only deaths and recoveries). See https://offloop.net/covid19/?default=Iran for time series data. | 03:47 |
| LjL | first bot call on the new network? | 04:00 |
| qkall | LjL: did i do bad thingie? | 04:07 |
| LjL | qkall, haha no | 04:16 |
| LjL | i just think it's the first time someone uses the bot since the move to Libera | 04:16 |
| LjL | well, since the partial move to Libera | 04:16 |
| qkall | oh... lol | 04:16 |
| qkall | i've def pm'd it a few tims | 04:16 |
| LjL | oh well i don't look at the logs all day ;) | 04:17 |
| qkall | also... does world/global/earth work | 04:17 |
| qkall | lol | 04:17 |
| LjL | no, sorry, i haven't looked at fixing that yet :( | 04:17 |
| qkall | i'm all about that data | 04:17 |
| qkall | no wrries | 04:17 |
| LjL | but i think https://offloop.net/covid19 does have a "World" group | 04:17 |
| qkall | i have provided no funding so i cannot possibily complain | 04:17 |
| qkall | without looking like a total asshat | 04:17 |
| qkall | and. i try really hard | 04:17 |
| qkall | to not be one | 04:17 |
| qkall | i try to be a good dude. | 04:18 |
| LjL | that's a good thing to try not to be | 04:18 |
| LjL | especially given the world has turned into asshattery central in some ways | 04:18 |
| LjL | (maybe it's always been and i was just too naive) | 04:18 |
| qkall | i honestly don't know when people stopped wanting to have like good ass convos... it's odd | 04:21 |
| qkall | dudes i grew up with like 20+ years ago | 04:21 |
| qkall | i had real ass convos with | 04:21 |
| qkall | now they're like strangers that believe stupid shit and when presented tangible evidence presented simply, still say nah nah that's bs. i knwo it. i feel it yo | 04:22 |
| * qkall i don't want to live on this planet anymore | 04:22 | |
| LjL | the world gives bad vibes. i don't know what's going on. i can describe some individual behaviors and trends and patterns, but i don't have the whole picture | 04:23 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews: worldnews: COVID curbs reimposed in Melbourne after five cases discovered → https://is.gd/uRMNrI | 05:09 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews: worldnews: Gottlieb says there’s growing circumstantial evidence that Covid may have originated in a lab → https://is.gd/vPLcfY | 05:19 |
| Bridgestorm | <_io__> so | 05:25 |
| Bridgestorm | <_io__> who here trusts the scientific establishment | 05:26 |
| Bridgestorm | <{> me | 05:29 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Belgium: +941 cases (now 1.0 million), +11 deaths (now 24853) since 23 hours ago | 05:31 |
| Bridgestorm | <KREYREEN> https://invidious.snopyta.org/watch?v=1hd3-_ekzMM rare hearth imflammation ? | 05:43 |
| Bridgestorm | <KREYREEN> I assume caused by the blood clots ? | 05:46 |
| Bridgestorm | <Peter> So Brainstorm is being a relaybot for now? | 05:48 |
| LjL | pwr22, yes, but with shortcomings as you see. the bot won't be usable by users on the wrong side, for one thing. and your nick will be wrong :P | 05:49 |
| LjL | people on IRC won't be able to tab-complete people on Matrix... it has all sorts of issues | 05:50 |
| LjL | but i'm told that while there is still no ETA for a "real" Matrix-Libera bridge, it will be a matter of days rather than weeks | 05:51 |
| LjL | the way it's set up right now it's also indirectly acting as a bridge between Libera and freenode | 05:52 |
| Bridgestorm | <Peter> I saw the weekend floated about somewhere | 05:52 |
| Bridgestorm | <Peter> Yeah I figured it probably would be 😀 | 05:52 |
| Bridgestorm | <Peter> lol | 05:52 |
| Brainstorm | New from EurekAlert!: ED visits for appendicitis, miscarriage fell sharply in first wave of COVID-19 pandemic: Emergency department visits for common conditions such as appendicitis, miscarriage, gallbladder attacks and ectopic pregnancy decreased markedly at the start of the COVID-19 pandemic, but patient outcomes were not worse, found research [... want %more?] → https://is.gd/XPJSD2 | 06:23 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Seychelles: +976 cases (now 10740), +3 deaths (now 38) since 7 days ago | 06:33 |
| Brainstorm | New from EurekAlert!: UBCO researchers examine how pandemics impact the homeless: A team of UBC Okanagan researchers is looking at strategies that could help the homeless during a pandemic. John Graham, director of UBC Okanagan's School of Social Work, says while many populations have been targeted with guidelines to keep them safe, homeless people [... want %more?] → https://is.gd/neruL7 | 06:44 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Indian Express: World: US agencies examine reports of early COVID-19 infections in Wuhan lab → https://is.gd/czftII | 06:55 |
| Bridgestorm | <ErrantEgo> i missed the news tonight, can someone help me get the numbers for Michigan? | 06:58 |
| Bridgestorm | <ErrantEgo> nm guys, i was able to find what i was looking for on Michigan's website | 07:12 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Indian Express (Health): Health: COVID 19: How Zinc may help protect against coronavirus → https://is.gd/DxYJaa | 07:27 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Saint Petersburg, Russia: +851 cases (now 433833), +38 deaths (now 14077) since 23 hours ago — West Virginia, United States: +619 cases (now 160354) since 2 days ago — Meta, Colombia: +387 cases (now 50638), +2 deaths (now 1190) since 23 hours ago — Tolima, Colombia: +314 cases (now 73759), +11 deaths (now 2392) since 23 hours ago | 07:35 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews: worldnews: Kelp, maggots and mycoprotein among future foods that must be mass-farmed to combat malnutrition:Radical changes to the food system are needed to safeguard our food supply and combat malnutrition in the face of climate change, environmental degradation and epidemics, says new report. → https://is.gd/V5y1JK | 07:48 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews: worldnews: WHO Chief Decries 'Scandalous' Vaccine Inequality Where Rich Nations Control 'Fate of the World' → https://is.gd/vWdahP | 07:59 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for India: +196427 cases (now 26.9 million), +3626 deaths (now 306067) since 15 hours ago | 08:37 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Indian Express (Health): Feelings: Memories die hard: Patients recovering from Covid struggle to shake off hospital images → https://is.gd/ciKi19 | 08:41 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/Coronavirus: Daily Discussion Thread | May 25, 2021: Please refer to our Wiki for more information on COVID-19 and our sub. You can find answers to frequently asked questions in our FAQ , where there is valuable information such as our: → https://is.gd/pwCaWt | 09:03 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Vietnam: +157 cases (now 5561) since 18 hours ago | 09:39 |
| Brainstorm | New from Medical Xpress: New Zealand halts travel bubble with Australian state: New Zealand suspended quarantine-free travel with Australia's Victoria state over a new coronavirus cluster Tuesday, the fourth time the trans-Tasman travel bubble has been disrupted since it opened last month. → https://is.gd/b1lN0g | 09:45 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews: worldnews: Analysis | Timeline: How the Wuhan lab-leak theory suddenly became credible → https://is.gd/xiSBnf | 09:56 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews: worldnews: Preparing for third Covid wave, Delhi imports 6,000 oxygen cylinders from China → https://is.gd/N7dEJG | 10:38 |
| Brainstorm | New from BMJ: Covid-19: Public debate is needed to decide how UK will live with SARS-CoV-2, says ethics collaborative: As the UK eases its covid-19 restrictions, and the initial two-dose vaccination rollout nears its end, more radical forms of public engagement will be essential when resolving the difficult questions... → https://is.gd/uDzfpQ | 10:49 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews: worldnews: Czech fourth health minister since start of the pandemic will resign and will be replaced by the first one (which resigned in 9/2020), Adam Vojtěch → https://is.gd/tep3ko | 11:10 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Ireland: +1164 cases (now 259050) since 3 days ago — Canada: +33 deaths (now 25265) since 13 hours ago | 11:31 |
| Bridgestorm | <RSS Bot [@LjL:matrix.org]> Feed: Colloquio Draghi - Macron a margine del Consiglio europeo a Bruxelles ( https://www.governo.it/it/articolo/colloquio-draghi-macron-margine-del-consiglio-europeo-bruxelles/16934 ) | 11:38 |
| Brainstorm | New from Reddit (test): Where would we be without vaccines? An updated model: With the recent talk of B.1.617.2 and the risk of a sharp spike in infections, potentially followed by hospital admissions, it can be easy to fall into a pit of frustration: "How can it be, when the vaccine rollout has gone so well? What the heck is the point of the vaccines, then?" → https://is.gd/my9H4q | 11:42 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews: worldnews: Agency linked to Russia offered thousands to French influencers to denigrate Pfizer vaccine. → https://is.gd/tred6O | 12:05 |
| Brainstorm | New from Politico: Coronavirus: Czech health minister resigns, fourth to go since start of pandemic → https://is.gd/7awYbz | 12:36 |
| Brainstorm | New from BMJ: Covid-19: Are high rates of B.1.617.2 linked to vaccine hesitancy?: Last week England’s health and social care secretary, Matt Hancock, linked high rates of infection and hospital admissions of people with the B.1.617.2 variant of covid-19 first identified in India... → https://is.gd/qiXOBE | 12:47 |
| Brainstorm | New from EMA: What's new: General: COVID-19 vaccines: research and development → https://is.gd/B7dTc0 | 13:08 |
| Brainstorm | New from BMJ: Tackling childhood obesity in the wake of covid-19: lessons from Chile: Modi and Hanson highlight the importance of placing the health of children at the centre of post-pandemic measures to reduce social inequality, improve population health, and promote economic... → https://is.gd/yJV47t | 13:29 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Malaysia: +7289 cases (now 525889), +60 deaths (now 2369) since a day ago — Andorra: +95 cases (now 13664) since 6 days ago | 13:36 |
| Brainstorm | New from BMJ: Patient information on covid-19 vaccines—a vaccine centre lottery: Members of the Royal Pharmaceutical Society’s retired pharmacists group committee have been collating our experiences of being vaccinated against covid-19. We live in England, Wales, and Scotland.... → https://is.gd/rOS9wO | 13:50 |
| Brainstorm | New from Medical Xpress: New drugs to fight COVID-19 developed: Scientists from QIMR Berghofer Medical Research Institute in Queensland have developed two new drugs to both prevent SARS-CoV-2 infection, and also treat people who have been exposed to the virus so they do not develop severe disease. → https://is.gd/ZxsTss | 14:12 |
| Brainstorm | New from Medical Xpress: Getting vaccinated won't make 'long COVID' worse: A small case series of patients who received one dose of either the Pfizer-BioNTech or Oxford-AstraZeneca vaccine found that vaccination was not associated with worsening symptoms or quality of life in patients with persisting symptoms after acute COVID-19. These findings may [... want %more?] → https://is.gd/xvJAdX | 14:22 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Switzerland: +4 deaths (now 10782) since 19 hours ago | 14:38 |
| Brainstorm | New from BBC Health: Covid-19 vaccines: Why some African states can't use their vaccines: African countries have struggled to get vaccines, but some now plan to throw away thousands of doses. → https://is.gd/mwuKKQ | 14:44 |
| Brainstorm | New from StatNews: Moderna says its Covid-19 shot works in kids as young as 12: Moderna said Tuesday its Covid-19 vaccine strongly protects kids as young as 12, a step that could put the shot on track to become the second option for that age… → https://is.gd/OCi0ej | 14:59 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Nepal: +8387 cases (now 528848), +169 deaths (now 6700) since a day ago | 15:02 |
| Brainstorm | New from NPR: Moderna's COVID-19 Vaccine Is Safe And Effective For Teens, Company Says: Moderna will ask the Food and Drug Administration to authorize its vaccine for kids from age 12 to 17 in early June, the company's CEO says. → https://is.gd/nyuM5L | 15:32 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews: worldnews: Ramdev: Doctors furious over yoga guru's insulting Covid remark → https://is.gd/6jAUjX | 15:54 |
| Brainstorm | New from EMA: What's new: Orphan: Orphan designation: Humanised IgG1 monoclonal antibody against the extracellular domain of receptor tyrosine kinase-like orphan receptor 1 coupled via a proteolytically cleavable maleimidocaproyl-valine-citrulline-para-aminobenzoate linker to monomethyl auristatin E, Treatment of mantle cell lymphoma, 09/12/2020, Positive → https://is.gd/apTJVx | 16:05 |
| Brainstorm | New from Medical Xpress: Most cases of multisystem inflammatory syndrome in kids with COVID resolve after 6 months: Since the COVID-19 pandemic emerged, doctors have reported rare but severe cases in infected children of an inflammatory disorder dubbed multisystem inflammatory syndrome (MIS-C). → https://is.gd/WUgN95 | 16:16 |
| Bridgestorm | <CoronaBot> /r/covid19: Moderna Announces TeenCOVE Study of its COVID-19 Vaccine in Adolescents Meets Primary Endpoint and Plans to Submit Data to Regulators in Early June (80 votes) | https://investors.modernatx.com/news-releases/news-release-details/moderna-announces-teencove-study-its-covid-19-vaccine | https://redd.it/nkokma | 16:25 |
| Brainstorm | New from Shane Crotty: @profshanecrotty: Thanks vaccines!https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us-reports-lowest-number-new-covid-19-cases-nearly-year-2021-05-24/ → https://is.gd/4GoM8P | 16:27 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Haiti: +131 cases (now 14037), +4 deaths (now 292) since a day ago | 16:29 |
| Brainstorm | New from Virological.org: Latest posts: Spike protein sequences of Cambodian, Thai and Japanese bat sarbecoviruses provide insights into the natural evolution of the Receptor Binding Domain and S1/S2 cleavage site: We are updating this post to include spikes from four additional sarbecoviruses: RpYN06, PrC31, RaTG15 (which has a nearly identical spike [... want %more?] → https://is.gd/HyuQaq | 16:49 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Indian Express: World: Moderna says its Covid-19 shot works in kids as young as 12 → https://is.gd/RB7TL3 | 17:00 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Dem. Rep. Congo: +309 cases (now 31172), +1 deaths (now 780) since 3 days ago — S. Sudan: +25 cases (now 10677) since 9 days ago — Germany: +24 deaths (now 87825) since 22 hours ago | 17:07 |
| Brainstorm | New from Ars Technica: Science: COVID cases after vaccination are still very rare—variants aren’t changing that → https://is.gd/YaGR0Q | 17:12 |
| Brainstorm | New from Reddit (test): Tuesday 25 May 2021 Update: submitted by /u/HippolasCage to r/CoronavirusUK → https://is.gd/Gn60d8 | 17:34 |
| Brainstorm | New from NPR: Not Yet Vaccinated? United Is Offering Free Flights For A Year If You Get The Shot: Companies and local governments - in what is perhaps a mix of commercial interest and civic-minded altruism - are offering prizes to encourage vaccination. United Airlines is the latest to do so. → https://is.gd/Sgbehq | 18:19 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Reunion: +1335 cases (now 24901), +13 deaths (now 189) since 6 days ago | 18:34 |
| Brainstorm | New from Medical Xpress: Nearly half of COVID-19 patients left hospital in worse physical condition: Over a year after the novel coronavirus cemented its grip on the world, much of the conversation surrounding the disease remains simple: how many people died and how many survived? → https://is.gd/sMt3Nm | 18:41 |
| Bridgestorm | <CoronaBot> /r/coronavirus: Wisconsin Catholic pastor who preached against Covid-19 vaccine ordered to step down (10037 votes) | https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/wisconsin-catholic-pastor-who-preached-against-covid-19-vaccine-ordered-n1268352 | https://redd.it/nkeg2t | 19:02 |
| Brainstorm | New from In The Pipeline: Clearing Cellular Dead Wood: For many years now, the topic of “senescent cells” has been the subject of plenty of research work. Back in the 1960s the “Hayflick limit” was noticed in cell culture: there was an apparent limit to the number of cell divisions that could take place before the cells just sort of stalled [... want %more?] → https://is.gd/Wcl7Qv | 19:04 |
| * de-facto pets Bridgestorm | 19:14 | |
| Bridgestorm | <Robinson> Are you here | 19:15 |
| Bridgestorm | <de-facto> yes | 19:15 |
| Bridgestorm | <Robinson> Noice | 19:16 |
| Bridgestorm | <de-facto> on both sides now we got portals :D | 19:16 |
| Bridgestorm | <Robinson> Lol | 19:18 |
| Bridgestorm | <Robinson> How's you been | 19:18 |
| Nokaji | fauci knew chynah would accidentally release a virus/bioweapon before end of 2020 - https://youtu.be/Kh3twYon8pc | 19:26 |
| Nokaji | Fauci Warned Trump Administration a 'Surprise Outbreak' Was Coming in 2017 | 19:26 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Italy: +3220 cases (now 4.2 million), +166 deaths (now 125501) since a day ago — Canada: +2443 cases (now 1.4 million), +41 deaths (now 25273) since 21 hours ago | 19:36 |
| de-facto | hmm isn't a pandemic (as something against the interest of majorities) always a surprise outbreak? would that not mean we always have to expect a next surprise outbreak? | 19:42 |
| de-facto | what else would Fauci have referred to in that statement there? | 19:43 |
| Bridgestorm | <TwoTwenty> https://youtu.be/DeuwqHDIRSQ | 19:43 |
| bin | LjL: can you set Bridgestorm to /ignore me please | 19:44 |
| Bridgestorm | <de-facto> this is damn cool :) | 19:47 |
| Bridgestorm | <finely> Between 97.1 and 99% of the funding for the AZ vaccine came from public sources. The fact a private company has a patent on this technology is absurdly corrupt. | 19:54 |
| Bridgestorm | <finely> | 19:54 |
| Bridgestorm | <finely> https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.04.08.21255103v1 | 19:54 |
| Nokaji | that's often how they get their patents, e.g. cheap university funding, then they take the prize | 19:56 |
| Nokaji | or no-risk, govt funding | 19:56 |
| Nokaji | nice work if you can get it | 19:56 |
| Bridgestorm | <iz> wtf | 20:01 |
| Bridgestorm | <iz> did this channel get taken over? | 20:01 |
| Bridgestorm | <finely> I wonder if pressure from the rest of the economy will force a suspension of patents? There are more monopolists hurting from the chaos and lockdowns than pharma execs benefiting from it. The other companies have a more diffuse interest in suspending patents, but combined they can buy a lot more access to the politicians that matter. | 20:01 |
| Bridgestorm | <iz> who | 20:01 |
| Bridgestorm | <finely> Freenode sheninigans. | 20:02 |
| Nokaji | already has, iirc - though maybe not quite for that reason | 20:02 |
| Nokaji | has or is pending ... | 20:03 |
| Nokaji | https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/op-eds/bidens-covid-19-vaccine-patent-waiver-would-benefit-china | 20:04 |
| Bridgestorm | <iz> i guess freenode is dead anyway | 20:04 |
| Nokaji | Biden's COVID-19 vaccine patent waiver would benefit China | 20:04 |
| Nokaji | chynah joe | 20:04 |
| Bridgestorm | <iz> well, i might come back when it's not stupid channel takeover time | 20:05 |
| Nokaji | free speech is dead | 20:06 |
| Brainstorm | New from New Scientist: Covid-19 news: UK updates travel guidance for England variant hotspots: The latest coronavirus news updated every day including coronavirus cases, the latest news, features and interviews from New Scientist and essential information about the covid-19 pandemic → https://is.gd/CGtOQs | 20:08 |
| Bridgestorm | <finely> > <@Brainstorm:matrix.org> <Nokaji> Biden's COVID-19 vaccine patent waiver would benefit China | 20:13 |
| Bridgestorm | <finely> | 20:13 |
| Bridgestorm | <finely> The pharma lobbyists latest lie. | 20:13 |
| Bridgestorm | <finely> A waiver would benefit us all. | 20:14 |
| Bridgestorm | <de-facto> actually its not that easy, it would have to be a technology transfer from the current manufacturers to whomever is willing to produce | 20:15 |
| Bridgestorm | <de-facto> and it also would mean more competition on the supply chain, and it might already be the bottleneck | 20:15 |
| Nokaji | philanthropic gates refused to let india make the stuff ...iirc | 20:16 |
| Nokaji | not top of my list of concerns so can't say I'm following it all too closely | 20:16 |
| Bridgestorm | <de-facto> State Serum Institute of India is one of the worlds biggest vaccine producers | 20:16 |
| Nokaji | what's with all these double-barrelled names? | 20:17 |
| Bridgestorm | <de-facto> currently supplying India exclusively afaik, because of their grim situation there | 20:17 |
| de-facto | haha its portals, i love it its very cool | 20:18 |
| Nokaji | is this some matrix type piping channel? | 20:18 |
| Nokaji | okie | 20:18 |
| Bridgestorm | <de-facto (@de-facto:matrix.org)> yes also that :) | 20:18 |
| de-facto | LjL did an awesome job :) | 20:18 |
| Nokaji | oh christ, not that person | 20:19 |
| Nokaji | censorship central | 20:19 |
| Nokaji | good job I'm only passing through | 20:19 |
| Nokaji | blood on her hands | 20:20 |
| Bridgestorm | <finely> > <@freenode_de-facto:matrix.org> actually its not that easy, it would have to be a technology transfer from the current manufacturers to whomever is willing to produce | 20:21 |
| Bridgestorm | <finely> | 20:21 |
| Bridgestorm | <finely> Yes, but the first step is vaccine waivers. The new, smaller mRNA manufacturing plants can be run with single use inputs. The supply chain problems have to solved one way or another. | 20:21 |
| Bridgestorm | <de-facto (@freenode_de-facto:matrix.org)> waivers or licenses i dont think its the current bottleneck, the manufacturing technology itself though as well as the raw materials very well could be afaik | 20:23 |
| Bridgestorm | <de-facto (@freenode_de-facto:matrix.org)> also there is the issue of quality assurance | 20:24 |
| Bridgestorm | <de-facto (@freenode_de-facto:matrix.org)> and that is extremely important, especially with such a large campaign | 20:24 |
| Bridgestorm | <de-facto (@freenode_de-facto:matrix.org)> yet whatever is necessary to ramp up production rates has to be done, probably identifying current bottlenecks would be a good start | 20:25 |
| bin | ugh this bridge is annoying :( | 20:27 |
| de-facto | i think its very cool :) | 20:27 |
| LjL | it's what i could set up without getting k-lined. hopefully Libera staff and Matrix staff find an arragement for a real bridge soon. | 20:28 |
| Brainstorm | New from Derek Lowe: @Dereklowe: I've been waiting for more background on this story, and unfortunately, it's taking just the turn I feared. Vaccine fear-mongering for fun and (geopolitical) profit. → https://is.gd/cPSPc3 | 20:30 |
| Bridgestorm | <finely> There is a single manufacturer in Bangladesh capable of 600 million doses a year that is not producing the vaccines it could. There are many more. Patents are absolutely a limiting factor right now. | 20:31 |
| Bridgestorm | <finely> | 20:31 |
| Bridgestorm | <finely> There is no reason quality can't be maintained. Inspection and testing is a routine part of the industry. The bottleneck is intellectual property. | 20:31 |
| Bridgestorm | <de-facto> quality control is extremely difficult | 20:33 |
| Bridgestorm | <de-facto> nothing routine about that actually | 20:33 |
| Bridgestorm | <finely> We do that for billions of doses of thousands of medications a year. | 20:35 |
| bin | this is illegible | 20:36 |
| bin | i'll be in the other channel | 20:36 |
| Bridgestorm | <finely> Although some western companies are always competent. | 20:37 |
| Bridgestorm | <finely> https://www.theguardian.com/business/2010/oct/27/glaxosmithkline-whistleblower-awarded-96m-payout | 20:37 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Spain: +5359 cases (now 3.7 million), +90 deaths (now 79801) since 21 hours ago — Switzerland: +7 deaths (now 10786) since 21 hours ago | 20:38 |
| Bridgestorm | <finely> *not always competent. | 20:38 |
| Brainstorm | New from NPR: Half Of All U.S. Adults Will Be Fully Vaccinated Against COVID-19 As Of Tuesday: The stunning speed of the vaccines' development and rollout has helped tame COVID-19 in the U.S., which remains the worst-hit country in the world. → https://is.gd/9i8vAN | 20:41 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews: worldnews: U.S. to reopen Jerusalem consulate, upgrading Palestinian ties → https://is.gd/ekZOoW | 20:52 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Jersey: +5 cases (now 3243) since 5 days ago | 21:09 |
| Brainstorm | New from Medical Xpress: Researchers uncover mechanism related to severe post-COVID-19 disease in children: A multidisciplinary team from MassGeneral Hospital for Children (MGHfC), Brigham and Women's Hospital and other institutions have identified the mechanism of how an extremely rare but serious post-COVID-19 complication develops in children and [... want %more?] → https://is.gd/XWdvL7 | 21:15 |
| Bridgestorm | <LjL> test | 21:20 |
| de-facto | whoa :) | 21:21 |
| Brainstorm | New from Reddit (test): CoronaVirus_2019_nCoV: More than half of American adults vaccinated as COVID-19 cases ebb → https://is.gd/eC9gGz | 21:25 |
| bin | ayy it works LjL :D | 21:36 |
| LjL | yes. not on freenode but that's unavoidable | 21:36 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for India: +200121 cases (now 27.0 million), +3737 deaths (now 307457) since 22 hours ago | 21:40 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews: worldnews: Social media heavyweights wooed for Pfizer smear campaign → https://is.gd/IPqzfy | 21:47 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Germany: +60 deaths (now 87867) since 23 hours ago | 21:59 |
| Brainstorm | New from FDA Press Releases: FDA: Coronavirus (COVID-19) Update: May 25, 2021 → https://is.gd/NnpOe9 | 22:20 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews: worldnews: Canadian soldier faces mutiny charges for trying to block vaccine distribution → https://is.gd/jusd9w | 22:41 |
| Brainstorm | New from CIDRAP: News Scan for May 25, 2021: COVID-19 low in dentists Tocilizumab as COVID treatment Secondary infections in COVID patients Polio emergency extended → https://is.gd/KQiAPt | 22:52 |
| Brainstorm | New from BBC Health: (news): Covid: Advice to areas worst-hit by Indian variant will be updated - No 10 → https://is.gd/7Ni31Q | 23:02 |
| Brainstorm | New from Gazzetta Ufficiale italiana: DECRETO-LEGGE 25 maggio 2021, n.73: Misure urgenti connesse all'emergenza da COVID-19, per le imprese, illavoro, i giovani, la salute e i servizi territoriali. (21G00084) → https://is.gd/neJm68 | 23:56 |
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