libera/##covid-19/ Sunday, 2021-11-07

BrainstormNew from r/WorldNews: worldnews: Victoria reports nine COVID-19 deaths and 1,173 cases a day after pandemic law protests → https://old.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/qoch9o/victoria_reports_nine_covid19_deaths_and_1173/01:13
BrainstormUpdates for Uruguay: +185 cases (now 395099), +1 deaths (now 6085), +19849 tests (now 3.9 million) since a day ago — Paraguay: +38 cases (now 461313), +1 deaths (now 16259), +3812 tests (now 1.9 million) since a day ago01:33
BrainstormNew from r/WorldNews: worldnews: All children will have to take Covid-19 jab in Costa Rica → https://old.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/qocyfe/all_children_will_have_to_take_covid19_jab_in/01:34
BrainstormNew from COVID tweets: Eric Topol (@EricTopol): The number of US covid hospitalizations has come down today below 45,000 for the first time since July pic.twitter.com/zJqbCxqg76 → https://twitter.com/EricTopol/status/145715178491742208202:07
BrainstormUpdates for Barbados: +315 cases (now 19831), +2 deaths (now 172), +3838 tests (now 400218) since a day ago — Gabon: +154 cases (now 36174), +5 deaths (now 254), +7275 tests (now 1.3 million) since 2 days ago02:10
BrainstormNew from COVID tweets: Prof Francois Balloux (@BallouxFrancois): It might feel paradoxical to be very supportive of vaccines, and to be against vaccine mandates. I don't believe it is, as I worry we may pay dearly in the future any short-term gain in vaccination coverage that was obtained by forcing people to [... want %more?] → https://twitter.com/BallouxFrancois/status/145715719172353229302:29
BrainstormUpdates for Faroe Is.: +48 cases (now 2586), +3000 tests (now 505000) since 23 hours ago — Curacao: +12 cases (now 17146), +904 tests (now 318833) since a day ago02:35
BrainstormUpdates for New Zealand: +114 cases (now 7457), +55797 tests (now 4.3 million) since 23 hours ago — United Kingdom: +30426 cases (now 9.3 million) since 23 hours ago — Australia: +1415 cases (now 180361), +301468 tests (now 44.4 million) since 23 hours ago — Netherlands: +11982 cases (now 2.2 million) since 23 hours ago03:37
asdflkj_shhttps://doi.org/10.1101/2021.08.30.21262866 claims that  "For boys 12-15 without medical comorbidities receiving their second mRNA vaccination dose, the rate of CAE is 3.7 to 6.1 times higher than their 120-day COVID-19 hospitalization risk as of August 21, 2021 (7-day hospitalizations 1.5/100k population) and 2.6-4.3-fold higher at times of high weekly hospitalization risk (7-day03:47
asdflkj_shhospitalizations 2.1/100k), such as during January 2021."03:47
asdflkj_shis that a credible claim?03:47
asdflkj_shhow would you persuade a member of that demographic, a boy aged 16-17 without medical comorbidities (allegedly at 1.5–3.5× higher risk of CAEs than covid hospitalization), or someone near that range (eg. an age 14 girl or a 19 year old boy), to take the vaccine after reading that study?03:57
BrainstormNew from r/WorldNews: worldnews: Pfizer board member declares "covid pandemic over " → https://old.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/qoew67/pfizer_board_member_declares_covid_pandemic_over/04:08
BrainstormNew from r/WorldNews: worldnews: Unvaccinated in Greece face new restrictions as COVID cases soar → https://old.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/qog10d/unvaccinated_in_greece_face_new_restrictions_as/04:40
BrainstormUpdates for Peru: +1070 cases (now 2.2 million), +36 deaths (now 200409), +47083 tests (now 19.3 million) since 23 hours ago05:04
BrainstormNew from This Week In Virology: TWiV 827: A shot to save the world with Greg Zuckerman: Greg Zuckerman joins TWiV to discuss his book that explores the race to produce COVID-19 vaccines, with insights into the companies, scientists, and executives involved and the rivalries, ambitions, ego, and a desire to save the world. → https://www.microbe.tv/twiv/twiv-827/05:23
BrainstormUpdates for Germany: +23788 cases (now 4.8 million) since 23 hours ago05:29
BrainstormNew from r/WorldNews: worldnews: B.C. [Canada] COVID-19 denier dies days after saying he was ill on social media → https://old.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/qohp9s/bc_canada_covid19_denier_dies_days_after_saying/06:28
BrainstormUpdates for Cayman Islands, United Kingdom: +194 cases (now 2676) since 23 hours ago — Magallanes, Chile: +18 cases (now 29374) since 23 hours ago — Lombardy, Italy: +823 cases (now 898072), +4 deaths (now 34198) since 23 hours ago — Kherson Oblast, Ukraine: +808 cases (now 69803), +144 deaths (now 2010) since 23 hours ago06:31
BrainstormUpdates for India: +10826 cases (now 34.4 million), +521 deaths (now 460791) since 15 hours ago07:33
joergasdflkj_sh: maybe compare the long term risk from catching covid to that from suffering a treated CAE?08:41
joerg>>120-day COVID-19 hospitalization risk<< sounds like a rather arbitrarily picked reference to compare to08:43
joergalso, do you know all comorbidities? Does a flu count?08:46
BrainstormNew from r/WorldNews: worldnews: Aboriginal Covid cases climb as Australian vaccination ‘surge’ falls short: Calls for greater resources as Aboriginal people disproportionately forced to ‘live with Covid’ → https://old.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/qojmr9/aboriginal_covid_cases_climb_as_australian/08:48
BrainstormUpdates for Czechia: +5766 cases (now 1.8 million), +37 deaths (now 31022), +70354 tests (now 41.2 million) since 23 hours ago09:01
BrainstormNew from r/Coronavirus: Daily Discussion Thread | November 07, 2021: Please refer to our Wiki for more information on COVID-19 and our sub. You can find answers to frequently asked questions in our FAQ , where there is valuable information such as our: → https://old.reddit.com/r/Coronavirus/comments/qok03w/daily_discussion_thread_november_07_2021/09:10
BrainstormNew from Reddit (test): Covid2019: Clear communication needed with college students regarding COVID-19 vaccine procedures and cost: many students at this level did not know that the COVID-19 vaccines are free. About one in seven were prepared to pay up to $99 dollars for [... want %more?] → https://old.reddit.com/r/Covid2019/comments/qokjrv/clear_communication_needed_with_college_students/09:53
BrainstormNew from r/Science: science: New COVID vaccine design is completely protein-based, making it easy for many facilities to manufacture all over the world and it doesn't need cold storage. → https://old.reddit.com/r/science/comments/qokkz1/new_covid_vaccine_design_is_completely/10:14
BrainstormUpdates for Georgia: +4104 cases (now 752855), +67 deaths (now 10435), +5072 vaccines (now 1.1 million), +37115 tests (now 10.6 million) since a day ago10:40
BrainstormNew from r/WorldNews: worldnews: COVID: How India is vaccinating isolated tribes in insurgency-hit areas → https://old.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/qol5zn/covid_how_india_is_vaccinating_isolated_tribes_in/10:48
BrainstormUpdates for Slovakia: +5338 cases (now 518635), +24 deaths (now 13229), +16826 tests (now 4.1 million) since 23 hours ago11:05
BrainstormUpdates for Laos: +1076 cases (now 47056), +1 deaths (now 82), +6472 tests (now 687708) since 23 hours ago — Indonesia: +444 cases (now 4.2 million), +11 deaths (now 143545), +219957 tests (now 48.4 million) since 23 hours ago — Germany: +23077 cases (now 4.8 million) since 20 hours ago11:30
BrainstormUpdates for Austria: +8554 cases (now 883887), +20 deaths (now 11502), +397268 tests (now 100.3 million) since a day ago12:07
BrainstormUpdates for Nepal: +141 cases (now 814558), +9 deaths (now 11448), +1980 tests (now 4.5 million) since a day ago — Qatar: +103 cases (now 240098), +5428 tests (now 2.9 million) since 23 hours ago13:03
BrainstormNew from The Indian Express: World: Court Temporarily Blocks Biden’s Vaccine Mandate → https://indianexpress.com/article/world/court-temporarily-blocks-bidens-vaccine-mandate-7611509/13:31
BrainstormUpdates for Vietnam: +7646 cases (now 968684), +61 deaths (now 22531), +1677876 tests (now 62.2 million) since 22 hours ago — Iran: +7554 cases (now 6.0 million), +126 deaths (now 127299), +443370 tests (now 36.3 million) since 23 hours ago — Latvia: +1255 cases (now 231824), +27 deaths (now 3499), +8434 tests (now 5.1 million) since a day ago [... want %more?]13:40
BrainstormNew from Reddit (test): Global COVID Cases For 07NOV21: On 06NOV21 the island nation of Tonga was added to the list of nations with cases of COVID-19 increasing the total to 222 → https://old.reddit.com/r/nCoV/comments/qoo7o4/global_covid_cases_for_07nov21/14:15
de-facto.title https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/277310814:28
Brainstormde-facto: From jamanetwork.com: Fluvoxamine vs Placebo and Clinical Deterioration in Outpatients With Symptomatic COVID-19: A Randomized Clinical Trial | Critical Care Medicine | JAMA | JAMA Network14:28
de-facto.title https://www.thelancet.com/journals/langlo/article/PIIS2214-109X(21)00448-4/fulltext14:28
Brainstormde-facto: From www.thelancet.com: The Lancet | The best science for better lives14:28
BrainstormUpdates for Belarus: +1912 cases (now 613927), +15 deaths (now 4745), +33205 tests (now 9.8 million) since 23 hours ago — Germany: +23805 cases (now 4.8 million) since 23 hours ago — UAE: +70 cases (now 740432), +1 deaths (now 2140), +254696 tests (now 95.2 million) since 23 hours ago — United Kingdom: +30446 cases (now 9.3 million) since 23 hours ago14:36
Dredd<asdflkj_sh> "how would you persuade a..." <- It weighs be more interesting to have a like for like comparison14:44
DreddBut largely by pointing out the risk is still very small and it's about making them less of a risk to their older relatives and parents14:44
BrainstormNew from r/WorldNews: worldnews: Australian woman wins $1m - just for getting vaccinated against COVID-19 → https://old.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/qoo9dx/australian_woman_wins_1m_just_for_getting/14:48
BrainstormNew from Reddit (test): nCoV: Number of critically ill COVID patients rises after rules relaxed | 07NOV21 → https://old.reddit.com/r/nCoV/comments/qoozid/number_of_critically_ill_covid_patients_rises/14:59
BrainstormUpdates for Uganda: +78 cases (now 126570), +1 deaths (now 3227), +5090 tests (now 1.8 million) since 22 hours ago — Zambia: +33 cases (now 209902), +1 deaths (now 3664), +3098 tests (now 2.6 million) since a day ago15:01
de-factoalso be aware that you compare two different things here: hospitalization with covid is something different than vaccine side effects15:14
de-factoCOVID most likely will leave some long lasting problems (such as long-COVID or years of healthy life lost etc), side effects from vaccination are most likely transient and most likely will vanish completely15:17
de-factoat least if comparing hospitalized COVID, but also some mild infections may result in some long lasting COVID symptoms15:17
de-factowiht the less risk for others i would be careful, vaccination lowers the risk of infection and transmission but fully vaccinated still can infect others, hence must still take care if meeting risk groups such as elderly15:19
BrainstormNew from Reddit (test): CoronaVirus_2019_nCoV: US Will Start Allowing International Travelers Monday: All adult foreign nationals traveling to the US must be fully vaccinated before boarding.... ...still have to show proof of a negative COVID-19 test taken within [... want %more?] → https://old.reddit.com/r/CoronaVirus_2019_nCoV/comments/qopbc5/us_will_start_allowing_international_travelers/15:20
de-factovaccinations mainly are protection from severe progressions (such as hospitalized COVID) and to some extend also protect from long-COVID (afaik for adults around half the rate of long-COVID in the breakthrough infections)15:21
de-factoof course vaccinations also significantly lower the risk of a contamination dose resulting in an infection, hence the protection from long-COVID must be multiplied with that lower probability to catch an infection15:22
BrainstormUpdates for Bangladesh: +178 cases (now 1.6 million), +4 deaths (now 27895), +15234 tests (now 10.5 million) since a day ago15:32
BrainstormNew from COVID tweets: Dr. Tom Frieden (@DrTomFrieden): Wearing an N95 or similar mask gives you greater protection against the virus that causes Covid. If you're elderly or immunocompromised, consider upgrading to a more effective mask when indoors in a community with high spread. → https://twitter.com/DrTomFrieden/status/145735897629997466216:04
BrainstormNew from COVID tweets: Eric Topol (@EricTopol): Fortunately rare and usually mild and self-limiting, myocarditis after mRNA vaccination remains a mechanistic mystery wsj.com/articles/resea… by @Loftus ahajournals.org/doi/epub/10.11… by @BiykemB @PeterHotez @ishannovation pic.twitter.com/mL2cXH9rgK → https://twitter.com/EricTopol/status/145736732955405926716:26
BrainstormUpdates for Canada: +1328 cases (now 1.7 million), +9 deaths (now 29194) since 22 hours ago16:41
BrainstormNew from COVID tweets: Eric Topol (@EricTopol): On the "dithering" decision for teen vaccination in the UK,  by @anjahuja @FTft.com/content/e5dd42… pic.twitter.com/Gw42Lip9XK → https://twitter.com/EricTopol/status/145737912527915827517:10
hogspeed[m]Hello people of the covid of the 19 room on matrix public server. I would much like to be knowing what is the best place to discuss the truths concerning the covid of the 19? Many of the thanks17:12
BrainstormUpdates for Chile: +2567 cases (now 1.7 million), +21 deaths (now 37862), +80924 tests (now 24.0 million) since a day ago17:12
BrainstormNew from COVID tweets: Marc Veldhoen (@Marc_Veld): Why do some people with SARS-CoV-2 get sicker than others? Although many factors govern how sick people become, a key driver of the severity appears to be genetic, which is common for other human viruses. It is something you often do not know! science.org/doi/10.1126/sc… → https://twitter.com/Marc_Veld/status/145737976176909517717:21
BrainstormUpdates for Netherlands: +11387 cases (now 2.2 million), +9 deaths (now 19003) since 23 hours ago — Jordan: +2097 cases (now 875804), +14 deaths (now 11128), +31420 tests (now 11.2 million) since a day ago — Dominican Rep.: +896 cases (now 388165), +7991 tests (now 2.3 million) since 22 hours ago17:37
LjL-MatrixI assume your strangely unidiomatic language together with the codeword "truths" means you want to talk about bullshit17:39
BrainstormUpdates for Greece: +4283 cases (now 784904), +52 deaths (now 16295), +288562 tests (now 27.8 million) since 23 hours ago18:02
BrainstormNew from r/WorldNews: worldnews: Japan reports no COVID-related deaths for first time in 15 months → https://old.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/qos8w9/japan_reports_no_covidrelated_deaths_for_first/18:05
BrainstormNew from COVID tweets: Nikos Bosse (23/28 meditations) (@nikosbosse): 'Forecasts' have played an important role in shaping public policy in the pandemic, but I think we talked too little about what a 'forecast' actually is. To have a productive discussion, we need to differentiate between actual forecasts, [... want %more?] → https://twitter.com/nikosbosse/status/145738794130785076018:16
BrainstormNew from COVID tweets: Eric Topol (@EricTopol): We'd have a 1 hour M&M conference to review the circumstances of one preventable death.What about hundreds of thousands?~150,000 deaths in the US Delta wave, more than 90% preventable by vaccination pic.twitter.com/Z6ycDWtNbH → https://twitter.com/EricTopol/status/145739617890399027318:27
BrainstormUpdates for Italy: +5822 cases (now 4.8 million), +26 deaths (now 132391), +434771 tests (now 107.3 million) since a day ago — India: +11633 cases (now 34.4 million), +521 deaths (now 460804) since 23 hours ago — Moldova: +447 cases (now 345964), +43 deaths (now 8099), +17955 tests (now 2.1 million) since 23 hours ago18:39
BrainstormNew from COVID tweets: Eric Topol (@EricTopol): When organic chemistry becomes quite relevant. Two small molecules in the form of pills that take down #SARSCoV2 will be making a big difference in the months ahead for preventing hospitalizations and deaths, adding to the powerful impact of vaccines pic.twitter.com/mF4wgmN5kP → https://twitter.com/EricTopol/status/145740759569874534619:11
BrainstormUpdates for United Kingdom: +29973 cases (now 9.3 million), +62 deaths (now 142236) since 23 hours ago — Maldives: +182 cases (now 88817), +4656 tests (now 1.6 million) since 23 hours ago — Canada: +753 cases (now 1.7 million) since 21 hours ago19:35
BrainstormNew from r/Science: science: Scientists have identified a gene that doubles the risks of respiratory failure and death from Covid. The gene is the most important genetic risk factor identified so far and is carried by roughly 60% of people with south Asian backgrounds, compared [... want %more?] → https://old.reddit.com/r/science/comments/qoulur/scientists_have_identified_a_gene_that_doubles/19:55
BrainstormUpdates for Mali: +29 cases (now 16371), +2 deaths (now 576), +1191 tests (now 462716) since 21 hours ago20:00
BrainstormNew from r/WorldNews: worldnews: Country with half a million secret Covid deaths → https://old.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/qoup3n/country_with_half_a_million_secret_covid_deaths/20:06
BrainstormNew from r/WorldNews: worldnews: No COVID deaths in Japan for 1st time in 15 months → https://old.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/qovemv/no_covid_deaths_in_japan_for_1st_time_in_15_months/20:28
BrainstormNew from COVID tweets: Eric Topol (@EricTopol): Iceland is one of several European countries with a recent surge in Covid, with data indicating the cases stem from unvaccinated adults and teens, and, to a lesser extent, vaccinated adultsgrapevine.is/news/2021/11/0… pic.twitter.com/4FEhsfGsBu → https://twitter.com/EricTopol/status/145743006984917811220:38
hogspeed[m]Hey guys, where do I go to promote the truth concerning covid-19 and the future of man?20:43
Juerdlol20:49
BrainstormNew from COVID tweets: Tom Wenseleers (@TWenseleers): Well done Australia & New Zealand! Getting those Covid vaccines into people's arms before having the virus infect half of the population: it is possible it seems... twitter.com/jmhorp/status/… → https://twitter.com/TWenseleers/status/145743183214898791020:49
hogspeed[m]Juerd: Lol? I'm looking to share the truth on this covid stuff and to share the future of man and your response is lol?20:52
JuerdYep20:52
JuerdIt's not funny enough for a lmao or rofl, but it definitely warrants a lol.20:53
BrainstormUpdates for Germany: +14 deaths (now 97033) since 23 hours ago21:02
BrainstormNew from r/Science: science: Analysis of Google search data indicates politics played a major role in shaping COVID-19 fears in the United States. → https://old.reddit.com/r/science/comments/qowa9z/analysis_of_google_search_data_indicates_politics/21:11
BrainstormUpdates for France: +8547 cases (now 7.3 million), +10 deaths (now 118866) since 7 hours ago21:39
BrainstormNew from COVID tweets: Josiah Grindrod (@JT_Grindrod): @fitterhappierAJ We drop rabies vaccines from aircraft all over the eastern states let's do the same thing with COVID vaccines → https://twitter.com/JT_Grindrod/status/145745614000705126522:17
BrainstormUpdates for Canada: +1291 cases (now 1.7 million), +11 deaths (now 29203) since 23 hours ago22:29
BrainstormNew from StatNews: STAT+: Moderna millionaires and the double-edged sword of stock market riches: In just a few years, Moderna went from stock market dud to moonshot, a prime example of how Massachusetts’ life sciences and tech companies can create wealth that ripples [... want %more?] → https://www.statnews.com/2021/11/07/moderna-millionaires-double-edged-sword-stock-market-riches/22:39
BrainstormNew from COVID tweets: Brian Hjelle, virologist (@hjelle_brian): Not exactly convinced you can get there from "antibody OD values" but authors conclude SARS-CoV-2 will be able to reinfect us even more rapidly than do the other 4 endemic corona ("cold") viruses.  thelancet.com/journals/lanmi… → https://twitter.com/hjelle_brian/status/145746508019534643423:01
BrainstormUpdates for Bahrain: +40 cases (now 277081), +16730 tests (now 7.0 million) since a day ago — Kuwait: +23 cases (now 412844), +21269 tests (now 4.9 million) since a day ago — Rwanda: +16 cases (now 99947), +2 deaths (now 1334), +16123 tests (now 3.2 million) since a day ago23:06
BrainstormUpdates for India: +11105 cases (now 34.4 million), +252 deaths (now 461043) since 16 hours ago23:37
BrainstormNew from r/WorldNews: worldnews: Anti-Vaxxers Attempt To Bribe Doctors For A Fake Vaccine But End Up With The Real Thing → https://old.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/qozizr/antivaxxers_attempt_to_bribe_doctors_for_a_fake/23:44

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