| LjL | so it's hypocritical to say it has "ended", but at the same time, what we are really saying is "there's nothing more we can or will do at this point", and indeed that may mean a high death rate, but... what is the pursuable alternative that people would accept= | 00:00 |
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| Tuvix | Well, the alternative may no longer be an option due to political & social reasons, but it would have been to require more broad vaccination for participating in more social interaction, like jobs that aren't 100% remote (which is most of them) and so on. | 00:01 |
| Tuvix | But, yes, I'll readily concede that such a policy just isn't viable, certainly in the US, and really the better-vaccinated countries aren't that way because of government requirement, but because their societies understands the benefit of not having sick workers and dead family, neighbors, and friends. | 00:02 |
| Tuvix | I guess I'm just frustrated that we consider something like the Omicron wave/peak bad here and it's suddenly news-worthy, but the portion that was >2500 deaths daily only lated a week or so. We're at about half-that now, and that's seemingly okay and just the new-normal. | 00:03 |
| Tuvix | Maybe I'm looking at it wrong through; as you point out, it's hitting the unvaccinated a lot harder, although also the older age-groups and immune-compromised that aren't as well equipped to fight it off even fully vaccinated compared to the younger ages | 00:08 |
| ecks | it's really crazy how the pandemic dropped off a cliff due to the ukraine war, in terms of media coverage | 00:10 |
| Tuvix | I guess my big complaint in terms of US data this past month is how the sharp decline in new hospital admits and ICU patients has _not_ resulted in a big drop in deaths. | 00:12 |
| Tuvix | That seems to suggest, at least for 3-4 weeks longer than we'd expect to see it, that we are still losing people well after declines in markers that usually mean improvement in outcomes, or at least fatal outcomes. | 00:12 |
| Tuvix | Being over 50 is much worse than the under-50 group, although it scales somewhat logrithmically with age there: https://imgur.com/a/JlnZAFl | 00:14 |
| Tuvix | (that doesn't break down the benefit of vaccination, so deaths are totals by month in the US for each age-group) | 00:14 |
| de-facto | let me guess: doubling each 5.75 years of age increase? | 00:14 |
| ecks | man, time flies. Sweden has been virtually without restrictions for over a month now | 00:15 |
| Tuvix | The US has been virtually without restrictions since spring last year. | 00:15 |
| Brainstorm | New from StatNews: STAT+: A compromise is reached on an intellectual property waiver for Covid-19 vaccines, but does it go far enough?: After 18 months of talks, a compromise was reached on a proposal to waive intellectual property rights for Covid-19 medical products, according to a document shared [... want %more?] → https://www.statnews.com/pharmalot/2022/03/15/covid19-vaccine-patents-wto/ | 00:17 |
| Tuvix | Here's an intersting comparison between the US & Germany; if you mouse-over the country names and compare the rates between hospital & ICU to the deaths, you'll notice the Germany is more or less in sync even through Omicron, but the US has by contrast "stalled" a recovery in fatal outcomes despite sharp drops in hospital/ICU: | 00:19 |
| Tuvix | https://ourworldindata.org/explorers/coronavirus-data-explorer?yScale=log&zoomToSelection=true&time=2021-01-23..latest&Metric=Cases%2C+hospital+admissions%2C+ICU+patients%2C+and+deaths&country=USA~DEU | 00:19 |
| Tuvix | Perahps that not really a fair comparison since Germany hasn't yet seen its big dropoff from cases & hospital/ICU impact. | 00:19 |
| Tuvix | Italy is a better example. | 00:20 |
| Tuvix | The dropoff of fatal outcomes roughly continues to match the declining hospital & ICU rates, despite getting hit pretty sharply with Omicron. | 00:20 |
| Brainstorm | New from COVID on Twitter: Marc Veldhoen (@Marc_Veld): VE against severe Covid-19 is high among the elderly. It waned slightly after 2 doses, but a third restoredthe protection. VE against severe Covid-19 remained high even after the emergence of Omicron. pic.twitter.com/Gf8BHcuDj5 → https://twitter.com/Marc_Veld/status/1503873892930265093 | 00:27 |
| LjL | <de-facto> let me guess: doubling each 5.75 years of age increase? ← in that graph, the share of deaths-by-age changes over time, so either 1) no, or only sometimes, or 2) maybe, but you can't tell it from that graph (i.e. maybe older people who were likely to die had already died and so now they're less) | 00:36 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Lancet (Online): Analía Rearte, Juan Manuel Castelli, Ramiro Rearte, Nora Fuentes, Velen Pennini, Martina Pesce, Pilar Barcena Barbeira, Luciana Eva Iummato, Melisa Laurora, María Lucía Bartolomeu, Guido Galligani, María Del Valle Juarez, Carlos María Giovacchini, Adrián [... want %more?] → https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(22)00011-3/fulltext | 00:37 |
| LjL | Tuvix, the US may be worse than other countries, but i don't really see it as a qualitative difference. the pandemic is being treated as "over" in much of Europe plus the US, and subtle differences aside, what do all those places have in common in terms of the pandemic? well, that's it NOT over! :P | 00:37 |
| Tuvix | Yea, I guess I'm just frustrated that we (and a Global "we" here) have almost shot ourselves in the foot if we have a major immune-escape worse than the VoC spikes we've had thus far. | 00:38 |
| Tuvix | Maybe this really is just the new thing we get to deal with. We dealt with influenza all these years after all, so what's 13 of them in terms of loss of life, instead of just 1? | 00:40 |
| LjL | also am i supposed to look at "admissions" or "patients"? because depending on the country, there may be only one of them (depending on ICU or "hospital" also) ;( | 00:40 |
| Tuvix | Yea, some don't track all metrics in whatever OWID is sourcing from, either due to them not being published or no import process. | 00:40 |
| Tuvix | It's mostly just a way to judge if an improving metric results in improvement to more-serious outcomes. | 00:41 |
| LjL | Tuvix, we have accepted, seemingly, that the ability to move quickly with our own vehicle is so important that even though it's the leading cause of death in younger people, we don't care, we teach people roughly how to do it at 18 (or 16 if you're in the US) and then they do it. and then some of them die. we consider it tragic but also accept it. maybe COVID is the price for wanting unfettered air travel ;( (note i'm not highlighting anyone in particular!) | 00:41 |
| Tuvix | Usually cases drive hospital admits which drive ICU capacity which ultimatley drive deaths. When there's a break, it's either good (eg: case-spikes no longer result in hospital & worse) or bad (eg: cases etc come down but something else that's worse does not.) | 00:42 |
| LjL | (unfettered, is that the word i wanted?) | 00:42 |
| LjL | (yes) | 00:42 |
| Tuvix | Either way it's a de-coupling, but we *want* a de-coupling where cases don't necessarily have as large of an impact. We're seeing a bit of the reverse. | 00:42 |
| Tuvix | ie: sustained poor outcomes despite an improvement. I can't really tell if that's just because Omicron is and remains quite serious, but it's only really evident in the at-risk populations (old, immune-deficient, and/or unvaccinated) | 00:43 |
| Tuvix | And, sure, vehicle is a decent example and we do have deaths there. But we also have mandates that we enforce with ticketing for things like seatbelts and manufacturer-installed airbags and other safety features. | 00:44 |
| LjL | Tuvix, try comparing the US to Italy, i think you'll find the phenomenon you mention is even worse in Italy | 00:44 |
| LjL | so maybe it's Germany that's a bit special, maybe because they managed to keep things pretty low for so much longer than Italy or the US, and later it evolved differently | 00:45 |
| Tuvix | Well, using that log graph OWID I linked, the sharp falloff of hospital & ICU in the US hasn't done much for a dropoff in deaths. | 00:45 |
| Tuvix | In Italy however, the dropoff, while not as notable in magnitude for hospital/ICU, that's only since the US started from a much worse place. | 00:45 |
| Tuvix | So, looking at the basically-parallel lines (on log scale, ie: showing magnitude of change in either direction) the slope of the hospital, ICU, & death reduction is about even across all 3 graphs, for Italy. | 00:46 |
| Tuvix | But, for the US, the sharp & quite pronounced drop in hospital & ICU has only led to a meager and weak improvement in the death rate, and is now fairly flat for a week; Italy by comparison is still improving. | 00:46 |
| LjL | Tuvix, uhm, wait, maybe this explains why i had difficulty making the comparison visually - what am i *supposed* to see in your link? because i see in the URL it says all of "cases", "hospital admissions", "ICU patients", and "deaths", but really the only graph i see is deaths unless i manually change it | 00:47 |
| Tuvix | It shows all 4 for me; let me verify I didn't mess up and nuke an HTTP param I shouldn't have. | 00:47 |
| Tuvix | It's crucial to see all for this comparison. | 00:47 |
| Tuvix | I just loaded it in a fresh browser profile, works for me. | 00:48 |
| Tuvix | You should see US vs. Italy, and all 4 charts (cases, hospital admits, ICU, & new deaths) populated, in log-scale. | 00:48 |
| LjL-Matrix | This is what I see | 00:49 |
| * LjL-Matrix uploaded an image: (336KiB) < https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/r0/download/matrix.org/MUZahexgsQWzGWeCzNXNaAHV/image.png > | 00:49 | |
| LjL | (and no i don't see more graphs if i scroll down, not sure if it's supposed to be all in the same graph or what) | 00:49 |
| LjL | even if i hover on the graph i only see the one number | 00:49 |
| LjL | deaths presumably | 00:49 |
| Tuvix | Something is wrong with that load then, becuase that URL contains the param: &Metric=Cases%2C+hospital+admissions%2C+ICU+patients%2C+and+deaths | 00:49 |
| Tuvix | Obviously that's the metric-selection that should be used, but I guess you can just manually go through each ¶m=value in that URL and set them yourself, as annoying as that is :\ | 00:50 |
| LjL | oh | 00:50 |
| Tuvix | I've no idea why that happens for you, since it works fine here in Firefox & Chrome. | 00:50 |
| LjL | yeah i see what i should be seeing, it works in Chromium | 00:50 |
| LjL | not in Firefox though | 00:50 |
| LjL | actually now it worked in Firefox too. and yet earlier i had refreshed like twice and it didn't. whatever | 00:51 |
| LjL | and now in Chromium it's randomly become empty with "no country selected"! are these browsers kidding me? | 00:51 |
| Tuvix | So yea, what I was comparing above is the relative synchronicity of the rates-of-change of hospital & ICU to deaths. | 00:52 |
| Tuvix | I think it's fairly clear the US is doing very badly here; notable improvements that have lasted longer than the expected delay to see improvement in death have not resulted in an as-expected decline, which is unlike most of our peer nations. | 00:52 |
| Tuvix | But this isn't the first time the US has under-performed here; we had the same kind of "stall" after Delta, mostly as it continued to rip through the vulnerable parts of our population. I think my conclusion is basically that the US just has more pockets of more-vulnerable people. | 00:53 |
| Brainstorm | New from COVID on Twitter: Eric Topol (@EricTopol): "The definition of fully vaccinated now is reasonably three doses."—Edward Mills and @dr_gilmarreis thelancet.com/journals/lance… @HEI_mcmaster @McMasterU @TheLancet today → https://twitter.com/EricTopol/status/1503883698139123713 | 01:06 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/COVID19: COVID19: The Growing Influence of State Governments on Population Health in the United States → https://old.reddit.com/r/COVID19/comments/tf5bri/the_growing_influence_of_state_governments_on/ | 02:17 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/COVID19: COVID19: Duration of Infectious Virus Shedding by SARS-CoV-2 Omicron Variant–Infected Vaccinees → https://old.reddit.com/r/COVID19/comments/tf5jik/duration_of_infectious_virus_shedding_by_sarscov2/ | 02:36 |
| Brainstorm | New from Reddit (test): nCoV: UK to end all COVID-19 travel rules ahead of Easter break | 14MAR22 → https://old.reddit.com/r/nCoV/comments/tf6e3n/uk_to_end_all_covid19_travel_rules_ahead_of/ | 02:55 |
| Brainstorm | New from COVID on Twitter: Eric Topol (@EricTopol): When South Korea, a model country for the pandemic, has >400,000 new cases in a day, leading the world per capita, you take notice. Tests 4X the US with <1/6th the population. BA.2 is 26% as of this week's report.Very high 2-shot vaxx 87%, 3-shot 63%. The pandemic [... want %more?] → https://twitter.com/EricTopol/status/1503913507665764352 | 03:04 |
| Brainstorm | New from Reddit (test): nCoV: Experts watch China situation, say India won’t be hit by new Covid variant | 16MAR22 → https://old.reddit.com/r/nCoV/comments/tf6sfh/experts_watch_china_situation_say_india_wont_be/ | 03:14 |
| Brainstorm | New from COVID on Twitter: Scott Gottlieb, MD (@ScottGottliebMD): Grim data from Hong Kong, 1 in 20 covid cases estimated to be resulting in death, biggest factor may be low vax rates. @FT When Omicron hit, over two thirds of people aged 80+ in Hong Kong were unvaccinated. Portends risks for Chinese [... want %more?] → https://twitter.com/ScottGottliebMD/status/1503928998073675781 | 04:02 |
| LjL | 1 in 20 O.O | 04:25 |
| jacklsw | 2022, getting covid is normal | 04:31 |
| Brainstorm | New from COVID on Twitter: Tulio de Oliveira (@Tuliodna): Yes, pandemic is not over and large circulation of SARS-CoV-2 in Asia, Eastern and Central Europe gives chance to the virus to evolve further. Said that, South Korea also shows the power of vaccination to decrease deaths. twitter.com/erictopol/stat… → https://twitter.com/Tuliodna/status/1503964037062737923 | 06:25 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/Coronavirus: Daily Discussion Thread | March 16, 2022: Please refer to our Wiki for more information on COVID-19 and our sub. You can find answers to frequently asked questions in our FAQ , where there is valuable information such as our: → https://old.reddit.com/r/Coronavirus/comments/tfbkvy/daily_discussion_thread_march_16_2022/ | 08:10 |
| Brainstorm | New from Reddit (test): nCoV: Global COVID Cases For 16MAR22 → https://old.reddit.com/r/nCoV/comments/tfcmv7/global_covid_cases_for_16mar22/ | 09:18 |
| Brainstorm | New from Reddit (test): Covid2019: ‘Complete change in our quality of life’: Long COVID a burden for many Canadians → https://old.reddit.com/r/Covid2019/comments/tfdbtb/complete_change_in_our_quality_of_life_long_covid/ | 10:07 |
| Brainstorm | New from COVID on Twitter: Marc Veldhoen (@Marc_Veld): Our study suggests that in people >60 years, vaccination with rAd26-rAd5, ChAdOx1 nCoV-19, or BBIBP-CorV was effective in preventing SARS-CoV-2 infection and even more effective in preventing death in patients with COVID-19 pic.twitter.com/SHkVnnelh5 → https://twitter.com/Marc_Veld/status/1504023339450388480 | 10:17 |
| Brainstorm | New from Reddit (test): nCoV: Chinese province bordering North Korea, Russia in 'last ditch' COVID battle | 16MAR22 → https://old.reddit.com/r/nCoV/comments/tfdk5j/chinese_province_bordering_north_korea_russia_in/ | 10:26 |
| Brainstorm | New from COVID on Twitter: John Roberts (@john_actuary): Latest age-standardised rates for deaths involving COVID from ONS show that in the last couple of months, having a booster has significantly reduced the risk of death at the height of the Omicron wave.That booster campaign worked!1/ pic.twitter.com/gdQS31fwUH → https://twitter.com/john_actuary/status/1504029779422584832 | 10:45 |
| Brainstorm | New from Reddit (test): nCoV: US Government, Pfizer 'All Agreed' to Delay Decision on Company's COVID-19 Vaccine for Young Children: Bourla | 15MAR22 → https://old.reddit.com/r/nCoV/comments/tfdzuu/us_government_pfizer_all_agreed_to_delay_decision/ | 10:56 |
| Brainstorm | New from Reddit (test): CoronaVirus_2019_nCoV: COVID treatment not used enough for most at-risk individuals in San Diego: Those who are immunocompromised may get little or no protection from COVID-19 vaccines, that is where the preventative antibody Evusheld [... want %more?] → https://old.reddit.com/r/CoronaVirus_2019_nCoV/comments/tffcjj/covid_treatment_not_used_enough_for_most_atrisk/ | 12:22 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/COVID19: COVID19: Pfizer and BioNTech Submit for U.S. Emergency Use Authorization of an Additional Booster Dose of their COVID-19 Vaccine for Older Adults → https://old.reddit.com/r/COVID19/comments/tffgok/pfizer_and_biontech_submit_for_us_emergency_use/ | 12:31 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Atlantic: A New Strategy for Staying One Step Ahead of the Virus: The hunt for the next big, bad coronavirus variant is on. Scientists around the world are sampling wastewater and amassing nose swabs from the sick; they’re scouring the microbe’s genetic [... want %more?] → https://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2022/03/covid-surge-prediction-antibody-tracking/627073/ | 13:09 |
| Brainstorm | New from COVID on Twitter: Marc Veldhoen (@Marc_Veld): As recently confirmed by the WHO; the C19 vaccine is now a 3 dose vaccine.Evaluating COVID-19 vaccines in the real worldthelancet.com/journals/lance… → https://twitter.com/Marc_Veld/status/1504070738915037184 | 13:29 |
| Brainstorm | New from COVID on Twitter: John Burn-Murdoch (@jburnmurdoch): Excellent thread from the always-excellent @AdeleGroyer, digging beneath the surface of English Covid hospital numbers to shed light on what's happening in the current wave twitter.com/adelegroyer/st… → https://twitter.com/jburnmurdoch/status/1504073215618002955 | 13:38 |
| Brainstorm | New from COVID on Twitter: Dr. Brandy St. Laurent (@mosquitohunting): Last week we lost an extraordinary person and a fountain of mosquito knowledge, Siti Zubaidah, to Covid. Widely revered as “the mosquito lady”, Ibu Zubaidah was a crucial part of hundreds of malaria and mosquito studies across Indonesia [... want %more?] → https://twitter.com/mosquitohunting/status/1504074970305122306 | 13:59 |
| Brainstorm | New from BioNTech: BioNTech to Report Full Year and Fourth Quarter 2021 Financial Results and Operational Update on March 30, 2022: MAINZ, GERMANY, March 16, 2022 (GLOBE NEWSWIRE) – BioNTech SE (Nasdaq: BNTX, “BioNTech” or “the Company”) [... want %more?] → https://investors.biontech.de/news-releases/news-release-details/biontech-report-full-year-and-fourth-quarter-2021-financial | 14:09 |
| pwr22 | My previously covidified boss has returned to work now | 14:13 |
| peetaur | and is he happy to return or does he long covid? | 14:16 |
| Brainstorm | New from COVID on Twitter: Eric Topol (@EricTopol): The pattern of American denialism when it comes to Covid, and its new wavestheguardian.com/commentisfree/… my latest piece @guardian → https://twitter.com/EricTopol/status/1504087452742430722 | 14:39 |
| pwr22 | peetaur: I don't know yet but I expect he's okay | 14:53 |
| Brainstorm | New from CIDRAP: Severe COVID-19 tied to long-term depression, anxiety: Mary Van Beusekom | News Writer | CIDRAP News Mar 16, 2022 The study suggests that mental health effects aren't equal and that time spent bedridden is a key factor. → https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-perspective/2022/03/severe-covid-19-tied-long-term-depression-anxiety | 15:08 |
| galaxykid2000 | how many of you are going to get a booster shot every 3 months? | 15:09 |
| undefined_bob | galaxykid2000: if its offical available, I gonna get it asap | 15:16 |
| galaxykid2000 | but the problem is, every 3 months your expected to take it. | 15:17 |
| undefined_bob | thats not entirely clear by now | 15:18 |
| undefined_bob | as far as I know they are working on an vaccine designed for omicron | 15:18 |
| undefined_bob | and maybe the 'every 3 month' will be for vulnerable people | 15:19 |
| galaxykid2000 | they are also working on a yearly vaccine. | 15:19 |
| undefined_bob | which is good | 15:19 |
| undefined_bob | we will see what the future brings | 15:20 |
| undefined_bob | in my country they dont speak about the three month thing yet. Not even about one after you got three shots yet | 15:20 |
| galaxykid2000 | still have mandates? | 15:22 |
| undefined_bob | some, yes | 15:23 |
| undefined_bob | cases are on an alltime high at the moment | 15:23 |
| undefined_bob | they gonna drop almost all mandates next week. Scientists calling this crazy | 15:24 |
| galaxykid2000 | your polititians are the problem just like here? | 15:25 |
| undefined_bob | they are not as stupid as in other countries but it feels like they are resigning a bit | 15:26 |
| undefined_bob | and they are busy with the war | 15:26 |
| undefined_bob | but whatever they decide, I contininue to take care and wear a mask | 15:27 |
| xx | scientists don't know anything and are just paid by big pharma. Instead use common sense, wear a proper mask, wash your hands, avoid being near other people, do online shopping, avoid all travel, ... | 15:41 |
| -Bridgestorm- 🏠 地震? Earthquake? M6- estimated tremor, possibly occurred 6 minutes ago (14:34:27 UTC), during a gibbous moon night, Minami-Sōma, Japan (37.7, 141.65) ± 3 km, ↓50 km likely felt 250 km away (in 仙台市, 南相馬市, いわき市, 石巻市, 相馬市, 名取市…) by 2.2 million people with maximum intensity Shindo 4 (www.kmoni.bosai.go.jp) | 15:41 | |
| xx | avoid smoking, avoid drinking alcohol, avoid being fat, exercise, eat healthy, sleep enough and well, manage stress, ... | 15:41 |
| xx | ideally also avoid getting old | 15:42 |
| dTal | also, hydrate | 15:42 |
| xx | yeah, that | 15:42 |
| undefined_bob | "scientists don't know anything and are just paid by big pharma" <-- wow thats some big bullshit here | 15:43 |
| xx | if anyone ever tells me that "now it's safe to get into a packed bus filled with coughing and sneezing and smelly people" then I'll tell them to fuck right off | 15:43 |
| -Bridgestorm- 🌖 地震! Earthquake! 6.0 M tremor, occurred 9 minutes ago (14:34:26 UTC), during a gibbous moon night, Namie, Japan (37.6, 141.7), ↓60 km likely felt 270 km away with maximum intensity Shindo 5- (www.kmoni.bosai.go.jp) | 15:43 | |
| dTal | I think that was sarcasm bob | 15:43 |
| undefined_bob | are you sure? | 15:43 |
| dTal | no | 15:44 |
| xx | I don't even know anymore | 15:44 |
| undefined_bob | I'm not good at detecting sarcasm | 15:44 |
| undefined_bob | I took the bus this morning, tho | 15:44 |
| xx | in your respective countries, has there been much coverage of covid anymore? | 15:44 |
| undefined_bob | it was full of teens and kids | 15:44 |
| dTal | no everyone's forgotten about it | 15:44 |
| undefined_bob | its almost all about the war | 15:44 |
| undefined_bob | but covid cases hit a new all time high | 15:45 |
| xx | yeah, I'm observing the same, war coverage completely erased covid coverage | 15:45 |
| undefined_bob | war is more deadly than covid :( | 15:45 |
| dTal | the first covid-related article on the Guardian homepage is in tiny letters nestled just above "Dug out Giant potato in New Zealand is not in fact a potato, Guinness World Records rules" | 15:45 |
| xx | how are covid cases hitting all time highs when people are ignoring covid and not even going tested? | 15:45 |
| undefined_bob | and against covid I can wear a mask but mask wont help against bombs :( | 15:46 |
| xx | where are the actual test numbers coming from? Who bothers getting tested now? | 15:46 |
| undefined_bob | not sure why but many people still getting tested | 15:46 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for South Korea: +763053 cases, +457 deaths since 2 days ago — Vietnam: +440270 cases, +160 deaths since 2 days ago — Germany: +390595 cases, +287 deaths since a day ago — Austria: +95708 cases, +68 deaths, +68 deaths since 2 days ago | 15:46 |
| undefined_bob | we do daily tests here at work too | 15:46 |
| xx | but the tests are not even compulsory in most places anymore, and a positive result doesn't even get you out of work anymore either | 15:47 |
| xx | wait what | 15:47 |
| xx | those numbers are bullshit, right? | 15:47 |
| Brainstorm | New from COVID on Twitter: Prof. Akiko Iwasaki (@VirusesImmunity): Another excellent piece by @KatherineJWu - this time on the importance of community immune surveillance to inform public health measures. “At its most powerful..a strategy like this could act as an immunological fuel gauge, sounding the alarm [... want %more?] → https://twitter.com/VirusesImmunity/status/1504104659371319302 | 15:48 |
| xx | oh it's since 2d ago, not 1d ago | 15:50 |
| xx | still, wtf is going on in S.Korea? | 15:50 |
| xx | and why haven't I seen anything about it in the news? | 15:51 |
| galaxykid2000 | There were crazy out of town anti-vaccine people occupying my city and spitting on people who were wearing masks. Sometimes people were spit on in front of cops and the cops do nothing. | 15:51 |
| xx | that's why open-carry states are the best | 15:52 |
| xx | good luck spitting on someone who visibly has a gun on their belt | 15:52 |
| galaxykid2000 | they were crazy people who just lost there jobs from vaccine mandates, they may grab your gun. | 15:53 |
| xx | that's just gonna be ruled a suicide then :) | 15:54 |
| -Bridgestorm- 🏠 地震! Earthquake! 6.0 Mb tremor, occurred 19 minutes ago (14:34:21 UTC), during a gibbous moon night, North Pacific (37.72, 141.62), ↓10 km likely felt 270 km away (in 仙台市, 南相馬市, いわき市, 石巻市, 福島市, 相馬市…) by 2.5 million people with 7 nearby reactors (www.seismicportal.eu) | 15:54 | |
| -Bridgestorm- ⭕ 地震! Earthquake! 7.3 Mi tremor, registered by AT,EMSC,PT, occurred 21 minutes ago (14:36:30 UTC), during a gibbous moon night, Minami-Sōma, Japan (37.75, 141.63) ± 7 km, ↓17 km likely felt 660 km away (in 仙台市, 石巻市, 南相馬市, 相馬市, 福島市, 名取市…) by 2.6 million people (earthquake.usgs.gov) | 15:57 | |
| galaxykid2000 | We all have a right to defend ourselves. | 15:58 |
| Brainstorm | New from Contagion Live: Oral Nirmatrelvir Highly Effective Against COVID-19 in Phase 2/3 Trial: Pfizer’s COVID-19 pill Paxlovid, which includes nirmatrelvir and ritonavir, reduced the risk of hospitalization and death by 89% among adults at high risk for severe [... want %more?] → https://www.contagionlive.com/view/oral-nirmatrelvir-highly-effective-against-covid-19-in-phase-2-3-trial | 15:58 |
| Brainstorm | New from Reddit (test): China_Flu: A Cross-Sectional Study of the Relationship Between Exercise, Physical Activity, and Health-Related Quality of Life Among Japanese Workers → https://old.reddit.com/r/China_Flu/comments/tfjeca/a_crosssectional_study_of_the_relationship/ | 16:07 |
| -Bridgestorm- ⭕ 地震! Earthquake! 6.2 Mww tremor, registered by CI,EMSC,US, occurred 47 minutes ago (14:34:27 UTC), during a gibbous moon night, Near East Coast Of Honshu, Japan (37.67, 141.65) ± 4 km, ↓33 km likely felt 310 km away (in 仙台市, 南相馬市, いわき市, 石巻市, 福島市, 相馬市…) by 11.2 million people (www.seismicportal.eu) | 16:22 | |
| Brainstorm | New from ClinicalTrials.gov: (news): Inspiratory Muscle Training in Post SARS-CoV-2 Infection Subjects → https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT05282199 | 16:27 |
| undefined_bob | galaxykid2000: sounds like USA and sounds like a legitimate reason to put a bullet in someones head if they spit on you | 16:39 |
| galaxykid2000 | there may be more appropriate measures than a firearm. Your allowed Prong Tasers in USA right? | 16:40 |
| undefined_bob | yeah | 16:41 |
| undefined_bob | but a firearm is way more effective and works nearly 100% | 16:42 |
| undefined_bob | tasers only work if both prongs get a good connection. Clothes prevent that most often | 16:43 |
| galaxykid2000 | Watching your enemys twitch on the ground and piss them selves is pretty rewarding. | 16:43 |
| dTal | there's a pretty big gap between the right to self defense and sadistic pleasure | 16:43 |
| undefined_bob | police most often only use tasers when they have lethal cover because tasers really often fail | 16:43 |
| galaxykid2000 | so a bullet would be less inhumane than a taser? | 16:46 |
| Brainstorm | New from ClinicalTrials.gov: (news): LatInamerican Vaccine Effectiveness Against Hospitalizations Due to Circulating COVID-19 VoC RWE Study → https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT05282017 | 16:47 |
| Brainstorm | New from ClinicalTrials.gov: (news): Pulmonary and Extrapulmonary Impacts of COVID-19 on Young Adults → https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT05282043 | 16:56 |
| Brainstorm | New from COVID19 Vaccine Tracker: (translated) valerie: AnGes: AG0301-COVID19 → https://covid19.trackvaccines.org/vaccines/3/ | 17:06 |
| Brainstorm | New from COVID19 Vaccine Tracker: valerie: AIM Vaccine: LVRNA009 → https://covid19.trackvaccines.org/vaccines/189/ | 17:16 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/COVID19: COVID19: Decrease in Tuberculosis Cases during COVID-19 Pandemic as Reflected by Outpatient Pharmacy Data, United States, 2020 → https://old.reddit.com/r/COVID19/comments/tfm476/decrease_in_tuberculosis_cases_during_covid19/ | 17:36 |
| Brainstorm | New from COVID19 Vaccine Tracker: (translated) valerie: AnGes: AG0302-COVID19 → https://covid19.trackvaccines.org/vaccines/31/ | 17:55 |
| Brainstorm | New from COVID19 Vaccine Tracker: valerie: Airlangga University: UNAIR Inactivated COVID-19 Vaccine → https://covid19.trackvaccines.org/vaccines/181/ | 18:05 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Netherlands: +60263 cases, +11 deaths since 2 hours ago | 18:10 |
| Brainstorm | New from COVID on Twitter: Eric Topol (@EricTopol): Even with lower fatality of Omicron where there's an immunity wall (69% 2-shot, 42% 3-shot), a booster shot reduces mortality 96% ourworldindata.org/covid-deaths-b…@OurWorldInData pic.twitter.com/6lywOwGjUp → https://twitter.com/EricTopol/status/1504150709217812484 | 18:44 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Italy: +74147 cases, +137 deaths, +137 deaths since 3 hours ago | 19:07 |
| Brainstorm | New from COVID on Twitter: Tom Peacock (@PeacockFlu): @jcbarret a small part of me dies everytime I see that word on a reputible news site - I'll take a 1000 stealth omicrons to never hear it again... → https://twitter.com/PeacockFlu/status/1504160435125342218 | 19:22 |
| Brainstorm | New from COVID on Twitter: CEPI (@CEPIvaccines): We’ve recruited over 50 Nipah survivors into a study with @icddr_b to advance understanding of the body’s response to infection @NIBSC_MHRA will support the project through developing tools for much-needed Nipah vaccines @MHRAgovuk | @Telegraphtelegraph.co.uk/global-health/… → https://twitter.com/CEPIvaccines/status/1504161828758331398 | 19:31 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for United Kingdom: +90974 cases, +153 deaths since 4 hours ago | 20:03 |
| Brainstorm | New from COVID on Twitter: NIAID CIVICs (@niaidcivics): Today is National Vaccination Day! Vaccinations lessen disease severity and reduce the number of patients infected. The #CIVICs community is working to better flu #vaccines.Learn more about the work done by the #CIVICs community [... want %more?] → https://twitter.com/niaidcivics/status/1504174741543919620 | 20:29 |
| Brainstorm | New from WebMD: With Fewer PSA Tests, Rate of Advanced Prostate Cancers Rose: New information shows that since the recommendation changed against routine prostate screening tests (PSA), there has been a rise in advanced prostate cancer cases. → https://www.webmd.com/prostate-cancer/news/20220316/as-use-of-psa-test-fell-rate-of-advanced-prostate-cancers-rose | 20:39 |
| LjL | Brainstorm, why do you say deaths twice, i get it it's a lot of deaths thanks | 21:01 |
| Brainstorm | LjL: like yeah, it's pseudoscience | 21:01 |
| LjL | oh, okay then | 21:01 |
| xx | are you talking to yourself? | 21:02 |
| xx | oh wait, that's the automatic Brainstorm thing | 21:03 |
| xx | Brainstorm: lorem ipsum dolor sit amet | 21:03 |
| Brainstorm | xx: is that those people to listen to anyone who had been in the same as pointing a loaded question, but people won't know that some people to sit at home instead of donating them to horses | 21:03 |
| LjL | xx, it's literally you | 21:04 |
| LjL | so you're talking to yourself | 21:04 |
| xx | hmm | 21:04 |
| xx | I think I remember something like that | 21:04 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Germany: +88494 cases since 5 hours ago | 21:05 |
| Brainstorm | New from COVID on Twitter: Derek Lowe (@Dereklowe): Simultaneously watching European coronavirus cases head back up, and watching the Boston wastewater RNA levels for signs of it coming on here. So far, it's quiet, and I hope it stays that way. . . twitter.com/JohnRossMD/sta… → https://twitter.com/Dereklowe/status/1504188039379275782 | 21:19 |
| Brainstorm | New from COVID on Twitter: Covid Fact Check UK (@fact_covid): Whilst it’s frustrating (but not entirely unexpected) to see cases rising again, I’ve been struck by how many “first-timers” there are at the minute - i.e. infected people who believe they’ve never had COVID until now.Omicron (particularly [... want %more?] → https://twitter.com/fact_covid/status/1504191018261958661 | 21:29 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Japan: +57822 cases, +163 deaths since 6 hours ago — France: +108832 cases since 6 hours ago — Cook Islands, New Zealand: +377 cases since a month ago | 22:01 |
| Brainstorm | New from CIDRAP: Twice as many Black COVID patients deemed lowest priority in ICU triage system: Mary Van Beusekom | News Writer | CIDRAP News Mar 16, 2022 Ongoing analysis and modifications of crisis-standards-of-care scoring systems could help [... want %more?] → https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-perspective/2022/03/twice-many-black-covid-patients-deemed-lowest-priority-icu-triage-system | 22:08 |
| Brainstorm | New from COVID on Twitter: Eric Topol (@EricTopol): In contrast to the lack of protection vs Omicron infections above, this >1 million people age 60+ study of 4-dose vs 3-doses showed a 4-fold protection vs severe illness at 12+ daysmedrxiv.org/content/10.110… pic.twitter.com/vwmiQGOMnv → https://twitter.com/EricTopol/status/1504202270950391810 | 22:18 |
| Brainstorm | New from COVID on Twitter: Eric Topol (@EricTopol): Similar neutralizing antibody titers to Omicron BA.1 and BA.2 (<-lower by a factor of ~1.4) People who were vaccinated and had BA.1 infections had robust BA.2 nAb titers, suggesting substantial cross-reactive natural immunitynejm.org/doi/full/10.10… @NEJM [... want %more?] → https://twitter.com/EricTopol/status/1504205439268843523 | 22:27 |
| Brainstorm | New from COVID on Twitter: Eric Topol (@EricTopol): "A third dose ...was needed for induction of consistent neutralizing antibody titers against either BA.1 or BA.2."andWhy BA.2 out-competes with BA.1 is mostly related to its higher transmissibility, not more evasion of immune response. → https://twitter.com/EricTopol/status/1504205442267824129 | 22:37 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Newfoundland and Labrador, Canada: +2188 cases, +2 deaths since 4 days ago | 23:04 |
| Brainstorm | New from COVID on Twitter: Eric Topol (@EricTopol): The association of predominantly mild Covid and subsequent Type 2 diabetes link.springer.com/article/10.100… @DiabetologiaJnl Matched pair analysis of >35,000 people who develop diabetes vs controls with acute URI, ~28% increase pic.twitter.com/roWweT918n → https://twitter.com/EricTopol/status/1504217090005241856 | 23:15 |
| rpifan | still quite sick | 23:22 |
| Brainstorm | New from Reddit (test): nCoV: Japan to lift COVID quasi-emergency measures in all prefectures on Monday | 16MAR22 → https://old.reddit.com/r/nCoV/comments/tfuxt5/japan_to_lift_covid_quasiemergency_measures_in/ | 23:34 |
| Brainstorm | New from COVID on Twitter: Eric Topol (@EricTopol): Is occurring at the time when "Britons less cautious over Covid than at any point during pandemic" /2 pic.twitter.com/RFFYnKQLEE → https://twitter.com/EricTopol/status/1504227297309593600 | 23:54 |
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