| Brainstorm | Updates for South Africa: +8179 cases, +55 deaths since a day ago — Germany: +9742 cases, +14 deaths since 6 hours ago | 00:02 |
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| Brainstorm | New from COVID on Twitter: Tom Wenseleers (@TWenseleers): In S Africa, the BA4/5 wave will likely cause ca 1/3d of the hospitalisations seen during the Omicron BA.1 wave. mobile.twitter.com/rid1tweets/sta… → https://twitter.com/TWenseleers/status/1527046802599559169 | 00:08 |
| Brainstorm | New from StatNews: Health: Large U.K. study links vaccination after Covid infection to lower odds of long Covid symptoms → https://www.statnews.com/2022/05/18/study-links-vaccination-after-covid-infection-to-lower-odds-long-covid/ | 00:46 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Singapore: +6442 cases, +2 deaths since 19 hours ago — Mali: +18 cases since a day ago | 00:59 |
| Brainstorm | New from COVID on Twitter: Sarah Eaglesfield (@zenxv): Didn't really want to make this common knowledge, but it's suspected I've had monkeypox for the last 4 weeks. Swabbed today.At scabbing stage now. Won't share the photos, as instant vomit factor. On a solid 8g of anti-biotics + Aciclovir anti-viral.No idea [... want %more?] → https://twitter.com/zenxv/status/1527061731721334784 | 01:15 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Canada: +6829 cases, +97 deaths since 23 hours ago — Guatemala: +794 cases, +22 deaths since 21 hours ago | 02:08 |
| Brainstorm | New from BBC Health: Government failed health staff in pandemic - BMA: The doctors' union cites lack of PPE and says medics still suffer the health impacts of the pandemic. → https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-61483373 | 03:48 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Costa Rica: +11369 cases, +28 deaths, +85984 tests since 8 days ago — Falkland Is.: +386 cases since 6 days ago — United Kingdom: +594 cases since 20 hours ago | 05:03 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for New Zealand: +14692 cases, +7 deaths since 23 hours ago — Thailand: +6305 cases, +42 deaths since 23 hours ago | 06:00 |
| Brainstorm | New from Politico: US reopens embassy in Kyiv: The soft opening is a move that lawmakers from both parties have sought for weeks. → https://www.politico.com/news/2022/05/18/u-s-reopens-embassy-kyiv-ukraine-00033467 | 07:08 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Pennsylvania, United States: +25604 cases, +84 deaths since 2 days ago — Western Australia, Australia: +17057 cases, +6 deaths since a day ago — Hawaii, United States: +7149 cases, +12 deaths since 7 days ago — New Jersey, United States: +5111 cases, +15 deaths since a day ago | 08:05 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/COVID19: COVID19: Scent dogs in detection of COVID-19: triple-blinded randomised trial and operational real-life screening in airport setting → https://old.reddit.com/r/COVID19/comments/usw6oj/scent_dogs_in_detection_of_covid19_tripleblinded/ | 08:06 |
| Brainstorm | New from MedicineNet: (news): Is It COVID, Flu or RSV? New At-Home Test May Tell → http://www.medicinenet.com/script/main/art.asp | 08:44 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/Coronavirus: Daily Discussion Thread | May 19, 2022: Please refer to our Wiki for more information on COVID-19 and our sub. You can find answers to frequently asked questions in our FAQ , where there is valuable information such as our: → https://old.reddit.com/r/Coronavirus/comments/usxkgy/daily_discussion_thread_may_19_2022/ | 09:03 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/COVID19: COVID19: 129Xe MRI ventilation defects in ever-hospitalised and never-hospitalised people with post-acute COVID-19 syndrome → https://old.reddit.com/r/COVID19/comments/usxqwe/129xe_mri_ventilation_defects_in_everhospitalised/ | 09:32 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Taiwan: +89420 cases, +59 deaths, +155925 tests since a day ago | 10:04 |
| Brainstorm | New from Contagion Live: Regdanvimab—A New Attack of the (Mono)Clones: A review of the neutralizing antibody that was studied in a phase 2/3 trial in outpatients with mild to moderate infections of COVID-19. → https://www.contagionlive.com/view/regdanvimab-a-new-attack-of-the-mono-clones | 10:29 |
| Brainstorm | New from StatNews: Watch: Why isn’t there a nasal vaccine for Covid-19 yet?: How would an intranasal Covid-19 vaccine work, and why is development so tricky? Watch this short explainer. → https://www.statnews.com/2022/05/19/intranasal-vaccine-covid19-explainer/ | 10:48 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Israel: +2150 cases, +9 deaths since 22 hours ago | 11:01 |
| Brainstorm | New from NPR Science: Pro-Trump counties continue to suffer far higher COVID death tolls: As Americans commemorate a million deaths due to COVID-19, the partisan divide of who has gotten sick and died continues to grow, mostly due to disinformation about the vaccines. → https://www.npr.org/2022/05/19/1098543849/pro-trump-counties-continue-to-suffer-far-higher-covid-death-tolls | 11:07 |
| pwr22 | de-facto: how's the covid situation where you are atm? Here in the UK we still have 1k deaths a week and yet everyone is treating that as "normal" | 11:19 |
| pwr22 | Still seems too high to me | 11:19 |
| ArchCyrus[m] | Tucson, Arizona. COVID is still hasn't been isolated, Jew Jab still killin and masks still causing bacterial pneumonia | 11:20 |
| ArchCyrus[m] | s/is//, s/killin/killing/ | 11:20 |
| pwr22 | Arch Cyrus: do you have any evidence of that? | 11:21 |
| ArchCyrus[m] | Evidence that COVID hasn't been isolated? Sure. Nobody has isolated it. Meaning they haven't proven its real haha | 11:21 |
| de-facto | pwr22, in Germany we got 55k infections and ~130 of people dying every day from COVID | 11:21 |
| undefined_bob | omg shut up with your fake stupid bullshit, ArchCyrus[m] | 11:21 |
| pwr22 | Arch Cyrus: it was isolated almost immediately | 11:22 |
| pwr22 | Two years ago now | 11:22 |
| * ArchCyrus[m] posted a file: (7170KiB) < https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/r0/download/matrix.org/LUrewlsTOHiYlbRxrGIkPJwe/2_5364066440741653295.pdf > | 11:22 | |
| de-facto | lol | 11:22 |
| undefined_bob | pwr22: its not worth the time and effort. Some people are just lost | 11:23 |
| pwr22 | This isn't really the right matrix room for those views - this one tends to largely agree with the mainstream science and whilst we allow discussions of more fringe views they are held to the same standard of reasoned discussion as the mainstream science views | 11:23 |
| * ArchCyrus[m] uploaded an image: (534KiB) < https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/r0/download/matrix.org/TIKEYOXUKFKqnFkSsEMSAEoi/Fraud_Remdesivir.png > | 11:23 | |
| de-facto | stop that nonsense | 11:23 |
| pwr22 | Arch Cyrus: I'm not going to read a whole book 😄 | 11:24 |
| undefined_bob | a whole 'book' full of lies and fakenews and bullshit | 11:24 |
| ArchCyrus[m] | I know you're not, just like you're not going to do research and trust the JewTube 🤣 | 11:25 |
| pwr22 | That infographic is mostly just a random sound bytes | 11:25 |
| pwr22 | We're not okay with racism / anti-semitism either | 11:25 |
| ArchCyrus[m] | kike kike kike kike kike kike kike kike kike kike kike kike kike kike kike | 11:25 |
| pwr22 | You might want to find another matrix channel more conducive to your beliefs 🙂 | 11:25 |
| pwr22 | Bye | 11:26 |
| undefined_bob | puh | 11:27 |
| Brainstorm | New from BMJ: Caught on film: NHS life during the pandemic: bmj;377/may19_4/o1224/FAF1faSelfless, an exhibition of the work of photographer Jessica van der Weert that captures the working lives of NHS staff during the covid pandemic, has opened in... → http://www.bmj.com/content/377/bmj.o1224.short | 11:46 |
| Brainstorm | New from StatNews: AstraZeneca’s ambitious vaccine dreams are finally, officially dead: AstraZeneca’s unfortunate Covid vaccine saga came to an end in December, when the White House quietly canceled its contract, documents published by STAT show. → https://www.statnews.com/2022/05/19/astrazeneca-white-house-contract-canceled/ | 12:45 |
| Brainstorm | New from BMJ: Covid-19: US hospitals continued to perform unnecessary surgeries during pandemic: US hospitals continued to perform eight overused and unnecessary surgical procedures for older patients during the first year of the pandemic, a study1 has shown.Cardiologist Vikas Saini, president... → http://www.bmj.com/content/377/bmj.o1254.short | 12:54 |
| Brainstorm | New from Reddit (test): nCoV: Global COVID Cases For 19MAY22 → https://old.reddit.com/r/nCoV/comments/ut1rf5/global_covid_cases_for_19may22/ | 14:01 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for UAE: +349 cases, +242793 tests since a day ago | 14:03 |
| Brainstorm | New from Reddit (test): Covid2019: Wastewater testing shows continued uptick in COVID cases after Derby: "We’ve had some of the highest levels of virus in the wastewater that we’ve ever seen in the last few weeks" → https://old.reddit.com/r/Covid2019/comments/ut24kv/wastewater_testing_shows_continued_uptick_in/ | 14:21 |
| Brainstorm | New from Reddit (test): Covid2019: The Role of Wastewater Data in Pandemic Management → https://old.reddit.com/r/Covid2019/comments/ut2eu2/the_role_of_wastewater_data_in_pandemic_management/ | 14:40 |
| Brainstorm | New from Reddit (test): Covid2019: Variants, Sublineages, and Recombinants: The Constantly Changing Genome of SARS-CoV-2 → https://old.reddit.com/r/Covid2019/comments/ut2jti/variants_sublineages_and_recombinants_the/ | 14:50 |
| Brainstorm | New from Contagion Live: The Importance of Antimicrobial Stewardship in Patients Coinfected with COVID-19 and Sepsis: To reduce the risk of antimicrobial resistance, rapid laboratory diagnostics are needed to identify the pathogens in hospital [... want %more?] → https://www.contagionlive.com/view/the-importance-of-antimicrobial-stewardship-in-patients-coinfected-with-covid-19-and-sepsis | 15:09 |
| Brainstorm | New from StatNews: Pharma: STAT+: Pharmalittle: Pfizer resists requests for study supplies of its Covid pill; WTO talks on Covid vaccine patent waivers are bogged down → https://www.statnews.com/pharmalot/2022/05/19/covid19-vaccines-pfizer-wto-patents-shkreli-abbvie-lobbying-fda-medicaid/ | 15:19 |
| Brainstorm | New from COVID on Twitter: Eric Topol (@EricTopol): The US BA.2/BA.2.12.1 wave Yesterday's 190,000 new confirmed US cases, which equates to over 1 million actual, and nearly 900 added hospitalizations charts.medriva.com/us pic.twitter.com/fLBEmiDR9E → https://twitter.com/EricTopol/status/1527280569469390850 | 15:40 |
| Brainstorm | New from COVID on Twitter: Michael Lin, MD PhD (@michaelzlin): This is a really excellent graph. Unfortunately the news it conveys is not excellent. Painful how slowly the red bar for ≥75 year-olds moves.Basically 20% absolutely refuse to get vaccinated, despite their >10% risk of death if they contract [... want %more?] → https://twitter.com/michaelzlin/status/1527287784318177283 | 16:10 |
| Brainstorm | New from COVID on Twitter: Michael Lin, MD PhD (@michaelzlin): Pfizer piggybacks on university research but then won't provide a little bit of Paxlovid to researchers.I may be the intended effect of laws on inventions and drug prescriptions. But in another time pharma might have cared for the optics and [... want %more?] → https://twitter.com/michaelzlin/status/1527296748338655232 | 16:40 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Canada: +4248 cases, +77 deaths since 21 hours ago — United Kingdom: +334 cases since 17 hours ago | 17:05 |
| Brainstorm | New from Contagion Live: Outcomes of Monoclonal Antibody Treatment in Hospitalized COVID-19 Patients: Leveraging antimicrobial stewardship programs was crucial to ensure COVID-19 hospital inpatients received monoclonal antibody therapy quickly and safely. → https://www.contagionlive.com/view/outcomes-of-monoclonal-antibody-treatment-in-hospitalized-covid-19-patients | 17:10 |
| Brainstorm | New from COVID on Twitter: Theo Sanderson (@theosanderson): The inverse would be the whole of the SARS-CoV-2 phylogeny as a reddit comment thread of sequences → https://twitter.com/theosanderson/status/1527305795620446210 | 17:19 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/COVID19: COVID19: Americans Shed COVID Precautions Despite New Surge → https://old.reddit.com/r/COVID19/comments/ut5snp/americans_shed_covid_precautions_despite_new_surge/ | 17:30 |
| Brainstorm | New from COVID on Twitter: Josiah 'So M̶i̶l̶d̶ Mysterious' Grindrod (@JT_Grindrod): And before I see "ZeroCOVID twitter is saying monkeypox is rabies! Unscientific fearmongers!", let me be clear that the above is an "analogy", not to be interpreted literally. Thank you for your time /end → https://twitter.com/JT_Grindrod/status/1527314564114620420 | 17:49 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Germany: +46368 cases, +118 deaths since 17 hours ago | 18:01 |
| Brainstorm | New from BBC Health: Vulnerable adults set for autumn Covid booster jab: Government's vaccine advisers said winter remains the riskiest time for the virus. → https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/61513975 | 18:28 |
| Brainstorm | New from COVID on Twitter: Eric Topol (@EricTopol): The benefit of vaccination to prevent #LongCovid is supported by many studies, ~50% reduction. But what about vax after having Covid? A new @BMJ_latest report suggests there is some (albeit smaller) reduction, especially with 2 doses. No [... want %more?] → https://twitter.com/EricTopol/status/1527329022421524483 | 18:47 |
| Brainstorm | New from COVID on Twitter: Tulio de Oliveira (@Tuliodna): I do seat with Marion Koopmans in the WHO virus evolution working group to identify virus threats. I agree with her that it is very unusual and worrisome. However, our senior ID specialist team believe that will be the largest MonkeyPox global outbreak but not [... want %more?] → https://twitter.com/Tuliodna/status/1527331591508598784 | 18:56 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Chile: +6939 cases, +13 deaths, +70855 tests since 23 hours ago — Italy: +30722 cases, +108 deaths, +247471 tests since 23 hours ago | 19:04 |
| Brainstorm | New from Virological.org: Latest topics: HIV Immunology Database PI: Vacancy Name: IRC108864 Job Title: Scientist 2 Organization Name: T-6 / Theoretical Biology and Biophysics Group Los Alamos National Laboratory, Los Alamos, NM USA What You Will Do: This position will be filled at either the Scientist 2 or [... want %more?] → https://virological.org/t/hiv-immunology-database-pi/798 | 19:35 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Japan: +39570 cases, +36 deaths since 22 hours ago | 20:00 |
| Brainstorm | New from COVID on Twitter: Marc Veldhoen (@Marc_Veld): Trajectory of long covid symptoms after covid-19 vaccination: community based cohort studyVaccines reduce risk of LC with 50%: 2 dosages after COVID-19 may also reduce LC itself.bmj.com/content/377/bm… → https://twitter.com/Marc_Veld/status/1527348632948641793 | 20:05 |
| Brainstorm | New from COVID on Twitter: Eric Topol (@EricTopol): Paxlovid is an important backstop for Covid infections to prevent hospitalizations/deaths. But real world data now do not mimic the randomized clinical trials (during Delta wave) w/r to 5-day Rx being adequate in a high %. Possible explanation: higher viral load of [... want %more?] → https://twitter.com/EricTopol/status/1527350279972147224 | 20:15 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/COVID19: COVID19: Excretion and viability of SARS-CoV-2 in feces and its association with the clinical outcome of COVID-19 → https://old.reddit.com/r/COVID19/comments/ut9jw9/excretion_and_viability_of_sarscov2_in_feces_and/ | 20:24 |
| de-facto | %title https://www.who.int/emergencies/disease-outbreak-news/item/2022-DON383 | 20:26 |
| Brainstorm | de-facto: From www.who.int: Monkeypox - United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland | 20:26 |
| xx | de-facto: what's the personal defense against it? | 20:27 |
| xx | masks, washing hands, staying away from people? | 20:27 |
| de-facto | yeah and no sexual contacts | 20:28 |
| xx | is it actually confirmed to be sexually transmitted, or is that the same case as with covid where they assume no masks etc. | 20:29 |
| de-facto | i guess so, it also causes blisters etc | 20:33 |
| de-facto | also if its still new in humans it may undergo rapid natural selection in the first passages, hence change its properties? | 20:33 |
| xx | fair point, too early to tell I guess | 20:33 |
| xx | humans are such dirty apes | 20:34 |
| de-facto | if dRt / dt > 0 and Rt > 1 it may become much more transmissible | 20:34 |
| de-facto | yes most humans are just disgusting | 20:34 |
| de-facto | for real | 20:34 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/COVID19: COVID19: Exploring the Association Between Latent Toxoplasma gondii Infection and COVID-19 in Hospitalized Patients → https://old.reddit.com/r/COVID19/comments/ut9vtx/exploring_the_association_between_latent/ | 20:34 |
| xx | de-facto: sadly it's exactly those humans who cause the trouble for rest of us | 20:34 |
| de-facto | unfortunately true | 20:35 |
| xx | like, somebody just had to fuck a monkey or eat monkey meat, and now we have AIDS | 20:35 |
| de-facto | hunting wild animals, importing them dead or alive, eating bush meat, getting infected, not caring about spreading diseases to other humans by disgusting contacts etc | 20:36 |
| de-facto | xx maybe countries that dont suppress such practices effectively (e.g. contact to animals thereby allowing zoonosis) should get internationally completely isolated | 20:38 |
| xx | lots of zoonosis in factory farms | 20:40 |
| xx | and there's factory farms in almost every country | 20:40 |
| xx | it's the most efficient way of producing meat | 20:40 |
| de-facto | closing the farms down permanently then, so the remainder does prevent that then | 20:40 |
| de-facto | there are ways to do it quite safely, hence industrial meat is mostly fine | 20:41 |
| xx | sadly we're a long way off closing down high-concentration factory farming | 20:42 |
| xx | the meat itself is fine, but the factory workers frequently have various animal viruses in them | 20:42 |
| xx | though usually not in a way that it could spread to other people | 20:42 |
| de-facto | yet not really new unknown zoonosis from the wildlife | 20:43 |
| xx | wildlife makes <1% of world meat | 20:43 |
| de-facto | they are closely monitored and the pathogens known, hence the possibility to test for them etc | 20:43 |
| de-facto | xx as you said it just requires one event | 20:43 |
| xx | looks like birds don't get monkeypox, so at least there's that | 20:43 |
| de-facto | monkeys learned to fly | 20:44 |
| xx | that'd be scary | 20:44 |
| xx | oh wait, there are some flying monkeys | 20:44 |
| de-facto | :P | 20:44 |
| xx | damn | 20:44 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/COVID19: COVID19: Long COVID occurrence in COVID-19 survivors → https://old.reddit.com/r/COVID19/comments/uta2sn/long_covid_occurrence_in_covid19_survivors/ | 20:44 |
| xx | well, how long before covid combined with monkeypox? | 20:45 |
| de-facto | i dont think that is possible | 20:45 |
| xx | monkeyvid? covipox? | 20:45 |
| de-facto | completely different virus | 20:45 |
| xx | that'd be my assumption too | 20:45 |
| de-facto | no natural recombination possible i assume | 20:46 |
| xx | but then I know there are viruses that infect viruses and use them as transport agents | 20:46 |
| xx | so not necessarily viral recombination | 20:46 |
| de-facto | yes but neither of the pathogens are such a thing here | 20:47 |
| xx | as far as we know, probably a safe assumption, but we might get surprised | 20:47 |
| xx | take an immunocompromised person, infected with both covid and monkeypox, and taking that medicine that promotes viral mutation, and we might end up with something interesting | 20:48 |
| xx | (not saying to do it intentionally, just noting that such a case might happen) | 20:48 |
| de-facto | coinfection though, hmm that could indeed play a role | 20:49 |
| de-facto | e.g. previous COVID tuning the immune system on SARS-CoV-2 making it more vulnerable for other viruses such as that pox? | 20:49 |
| de-facto | not sure that would be completely speculation | 20:49 |
| xx | yeah I fully admit I'm just speculating here | 20:51 |
| xx | after all, humans are full of other viruses and we haven't seen anything fancy yet | 20:51 |
| de-facto | well SARS-CoV-2 infection may give rise to dormant other viruses such as HSV or potentially also EBV etc | 20:52 |
| de-facto | so its thinkable at least | 20:52 |
| de-facto | COVID does all sorts of damages to the immune system, among them depleting T-cells etc | 20:53 |
| Asako | some say it's really CoV-3 now | 20:54 |
| xx | and pretty large number of world population have already had covid, thus having some damage | 20:54 |
| xx | nobody gets off without damage from what I've been reading recently | 20:54 |
| xx | at the very least it's brain damage | 20:54 |
| Asako | 60% of the US proles have had a version Topol guesstimates | 20:55 |
| Asako | I like this guy: https://nitter.net/cha_myoung | 20:58 |
| de-facto | %title https://www.bbc.com/news/health-61506562 | 21:03 |
| Brainstorm | de-facto: From www.bbc.com: Monkeypox cases investigated in Europe, US and Canada - BBC News | 21:03 |
| de-facto | at least its a double stranded DNA virus, hence will have a very low mutation rate i assume? | 21:04 |
| de-facto | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monkeypox_virus | 21:05 |
| de-facto | https://www.ecdc.europa.eu/en/all-topics-z/monkeypox/factsheet-health-professionals | 21:07 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/COVID19: COVID19: Longitudinal Analysis of Coronavirus-Neutralizing Activity in COVID-19 Patients → https://old.reddit.com/r/COVID19/comments/utawxy/longitudinal_analysis_of_coronavirusneutralizing/ | 21:23 |
| LjL | tl;dr how many cases in how many countries so far? | 21:35 |
| LjL | also any explanation for increased human-to-human transmission compared to previous outbreaks? | 21:35 |
| pwr22 | >looks like birds don't get monkeypox, so at least there's that | 21:38 |
| pwr22 | xx: but birds aren't real! Think about it, have you ever seen a baby pigeon? | 21:38 |
| xx | I know birds aren't real | 21:38 |
| xx | they can still transfer diseases though | 21:39 |
| xx | LjL: every modern outbreak will be worse than any previous one, because there's more people on the planet everywhere | 21:39 |
| LjL-Matrix | That's not really an answer to my question | 21:41 |
| LjL-Matrix | It was known to have low transmissibility between humans, now that's somehow clearly not so much the case | 21:41 |
| ecks | i swear to god if we get a second pandemic i'm gonna lose my shit | 21:42 |
| Brainstorm | New from COVID on Twitter: Eric Topol (@EricTopol): The substantial immune escape of BA.2.12.1 & BA.4/BA.5, which helps to explain the current US surge despite vaccination + extensive prior BA.1 infections medrxiv.org/content/10.110…suggests "the SARS-CoV-2 Omicron variant has continued to evolve w/ increasing [... want %more?] → https://twitter.com/EricTopol/status/1527373511936729088 | 21:43 |
| xx | ecks: there'll always be some pandemic | 21:45 |
| xx | as long as there are so many people on the planet, so high concentration of people in cities, and so much travel between continents and countries | 21:45 |
| ecks | yes but preferably not right after one | 21:46 |
| xx | after? It's still not over | 21:47 |
| xx | it will be during :) | 21:47 |
| ecks | i'm mentally over it | 21:47 |
| xx | we'll have a pandemic while we're already having a pandemic | 21:47 |
| xx | I heard you like pandemics so much so I put a pandemic in your pandemic | 21:48 |
| ecks | for my intents and purposes, it's been over since march-ish | 21:49 |
| pwr22 | > however, the case fatality rate for monkeypox may still be as high as 10% without prompt treatment | 21:49 |
| pwr22 | yay | 21:49 |
| pwr22 | LjL: is it time to make ##MPOX-22 ? | 21:49 |
| xx | and of course most of the world won't get prompt treatment, especially while healthcare systems are still under pressure due to covid | 21:50 |
| xx | pwr22: we should just unify and redirect all the channels to one | 21:50 |
| xx | #humansaredirtyapes | 21:50 |
| pwr22 | On the matrix side we have an #epidemics:matrix.org space so we can add it into that 😛 | 21:51 |
| pwr22 | ecks: lots of people and governments have decided it's over but at the current rate 1k people still die every week in the UK from COVID ☹️ | 21:52 |
| pwr22 | Which is much higher than we managed to get the death rate down to here twice before when we re-opened after lockdown | 21:52 |
| pwr22 | And this time we have vaccines and such, so effectively we're doing a much much worse job in that light | 21:52 |
| ecks | is there excessive mortality? | 21:53 |
| pwr22 | I believe so yes | 21:53 |
| ecks | not according to euromomo | 21:54 |
| pwr22 | I believe ~70% of those covid deaths could be considered excess | 21:55 |
| pwr22 | Though I can't find official statistics that are up to date so I'm judging that based on when we were at roughly the same levels back in nov/dec 2021 | 21:56 |
| pwr22 | Since our testing is shit now I'd expect to see a shift from the excess deaths being attributed to covid but they should still be there | 21:58 |
| ecks | Europe is currently under 2018 levels in cumulative excess mortality | 21:58 |
| pwr22 | Is it meaningful to compare to a particular year? I think you'd need to take an average adjusted per population and compare to that? | 21:59 |
| pwr22 | At least that's what the UK ONS does | 21:59 |
| ecks | sure, but it's good to put numbers into perspective | 22:01 |
| pwr22 | Yup, not everywhere is the same though or has reliable date either which can suck | 22:01 |
| pwr22 | It's good that some places aren't so bad though | 22:02 |
| Brainstorm | New from COVID on Twitter: (translated) Marc Veldhoen (@Marc_Veld): We also have a good and safe vaccine, the smallpox vaccine. This vaccine can be used up to 4 days after infection. Unfortunately, effective medication against this virus does not really exist.cdc.gov/poxvirus/monke… → https://twitter.com/Marc_Veld/status/1527377973447249934 | 22:02 |
| pwr22 | Largely the situation here could be better if it weren't for our incompetent government and a substantial portion of our population being selfish and belligerent about the covid situation ☹️ | 22:02 |
| pwr22 | If we had just waited 1 more month before throwing out all restrictions, I think that would have made a big difference we'd still be feeling now | 22:03 |
| pwr22 | And many peoples relatives would still be alive ☹️ | 22:03 |
| pwr22 | Sure, less than before but not an insignificant number | 22:03 |
| pwr22 | "Unfortunately, effective medication against this virus does not really" <- what about Tecovirimat? | 22:05 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Guatemala: +817 cases, +28 deaths since 19 hours ago — France: +27842 cases, +67 deaths since a day ago | 22:06 |
| xx | what about... ivermectin? | 22:08 |
| pwr22 | I can't make money on a stock with that one 😛 | 22:09 |
| xx | did you buy the stocks for the tecovirimat manufacturer? | 22:10 |
| xx | it's probably up today | 22:10 |
| pwr22 | If I bought yesterday I'd be up about 18% 😛 | 22:10 |
| Asako | "over it" ; hasn't even begun | 22:16 |
| pwr22 | > The index case was a British resident who travelled to Lagos and Delta State in Nigeria in late April 2022,[1] areas in which monkeypox is considered to be an endemic disease. The individual developed symptoms of monkeypox, including a rash, on 29 April while still in Nigeria. They subsequently flew back to the United Kingdom, arriving on 4 May. They presented to hospital later the same day | 22:29 |
| pwr22 | What an asshole 🤦♂️ | 22:29 |
| xx | wonder if they'd catch it if they still had the various immigration forms, temperature measurements, ... | 22:30 |
| xx | mandatory quarantines | 22:30 |
| Brainstorm | New from Reddit (test): Covid2019: The detection and isolation of bat sarbecoviruses from several locations in Japan → https://old.reddit.com/r/Covid2019/comments/utcdc5/the_detection_and_isolation_of_bat_sarbecoviruses/ | 22:31 |
| de-facto | passenger travel and pathogen delivery at your service | 22:55 |
| de-facto | maybe we should create welcome scenarios for pathogens with increased contact rates in dense crowds | 22:56 |
| de-facto | ... oh wait we have that already | 22:57 |
| Asako | used to have Yellow Fever cards | 22:58 |
| Asako | guess now the phantom lords would find that unfreedumb like | 22:59 |
| Brainstorm | New from Reddit (test): Covid2019: Unique antibody responses after third COVID-19 mRNA vaccination: in line with several prior reports, the present study found that a third mRNA vaccine dose induces immune responses similar to hybrid immunity → https://old.reddit.com/r/Covid2019/comments/utcwj6/unique_antibody_responses_after_third_covid19/ | 23:00 |
| LjL | This is a public service announcement, this is not a test: | 23:06 |
| LjL | ##monkeypox is open on Libera.chat and bridged with #monkeypox:matrix.org for discussion of the monkeypox outbreak currently in progress in the United Kingdom and several other countries. | 23:06 |
| LjL | The bot will post news, blah blah, you know the drill. | 23:07 |
| LjL | If you're on Matrix, joining #epidemics:matrix.org could be something to consider. | 23:07 |
| LjL | (That's a space that includes these other rooms) | 23:08 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Portugal: +64224 cases, +57 deaths since a day ago — Germany: +56603 cases, +150 deaths since 23 hours ago | 23:09 |
| Asako | \o/ | 23:10 |
| Brainstorm | New from COVID on Twitter: Eric Topol (@EricTopol): Hospitalization and ICU admissions in the United StatesThe absolute number is still low compared with the Omicron (BA.1) wave. But the rate of rise (log-plots) is similar to the Delta wave pic.twitter.com/bLbuDw5z2n → https://twitter.com/EricTopol/status/1527397878246670336 | 23:27 |
| Brainstorm | New from COVID on Twitter: Eric Topol (@EricTopol): $40 Billion new aid for UkraineX $0 new aid vs Covid → https://twitter.com/EricTopol/status/1527403294577963009 | 23:47 |
| Brainstorm | New from COVID on Twitter: Eric Topol (@EricTopol): I am *totally*supportive of all aid to UkraineBut zero support vs Covid at this juncture is a capitulation erictopol.substack.com/p/the-covid-ca… → https://twitter.com/EricTopol/status/1527406828065148928 | 23:56 |
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