libera/#devuan-arm/ Sunday, 2021-05-30

tuxd3v_c0rnelius, does you use rng-tools using hardware {t,P}RNG15:49
tuxd3v_I can't on h315:49
tuxd3v_it doesn't have TRNG15:50
tuxd3v_but have PRNS15:50
tuxd3v_sorry15:50
tuxd3v_PRNG15:50
tuxd3v_but sun8i-ss has PRNg support :/16:12
tuxd3v_so it shouold workd16:13
tuxd3v_should*16:13
tuxd3v_well I go with /dev/urandom :/16:59
tuxd3v_sun8i-ss should provide at least a PRNG17:00
tuxd3v_c0rnelius, h3 is pin to pin compatible with h5, onlr the mmc card ip is diferentr :)17:02
c0rneliusYeah I know there isn't much diff. Besides one being 32 and the other 64bit.18:02
c0rneliusCurrently messing around with dual booting using extlinux on the pi4.18:08
tuxd3v_nice :)18:09
c0rneliusSo far I got it working but it does take manual setup.18:09
c0rneliusOnly problem is because of the nature of u-boot I can't seem to load a 32bit kernel on a 64bit system.18:11
c0rneliusBut could have a Devuan desktop on USB and Debian on the SD... I guess if I built it for armhf could put LibreELEC on USB and whatever on SD.18:12
c0rneliusYesterday I bought Odroid N2+ with everything but the kitchen sink included off one of the Armbian boys. So that should be fun to play with next week when it arrives.18:16
tuxd3v_ho you got new board, nice to hear that :)18:32
tuxd3v_I am waiting rk3588 boards..18:32
tuxd3v_the chip never gets out :(18:32
c0rneliusYeah. I've been waiting to order the N2+ forever and he happened to be trying to sell his. So it worked out. Comes with PSU, 32GB eMMC, case, fan, heatsink, wifi dongle... Pretty much everything I thinks?18:35
c0rneliusOnly a $13018:35
tuxd3v_wow, you brought it from a armbian guy?18:36
c0rneliusMhmm18:36
c0rneliusOne of the guys who is doing the desktop stuff for them.18:37
c0rneliusI guess he moved on to messing with the NanoPC-T4 now and doesn't want it anymore.18:37
c0rneliusPlus they want me to fix mainline u-boot for them on the N2/+. :)18:38
c0rneliusWhich I'm pretty sure I already know why its not working for them, but I need the board first before I can do the PR.18:38
c0rneliusAmlogic u-boot creates two binaries, one specific to MMC and one for SD. It looks to me that they are flashing the wrong binary and doing so the wrong way. chewitt from LibreELEC says the second binary "u-boot.bin.sd.bin" is suppose to work for both MMC/SD but I need to test that first.18:42
tuxd3v_nanopi NEO plus2, is another device were I notice the problem, but there are a lot..18:47
c0rneliusYeah that's the one I have.18:48
tuxd3v_in bananapi m2 zero, it sometimes work sometimes not...it will be my next check, using CONFIG_SERIAL_8250_16550A_VARIANTS in a kernel for it, so see if it solves, but I am sure it will..18:48
c0rneliusGood board.18:49
tuxd3v_the neo plus2 is a nice board indeed18:49
tuxd3v_it has lots of options on it..18:49
c0rneliusThe onboard wifi/bluetooth chip sux but besides that it's pretty solid.18:49
tuxd3v_I got amazed when I looked at the schematics the other day :)18:49
tuxd3v_You need to work better the dts, and I am 100% sure it will work out-of-the-box, always after that..18:50
tuxd3v_CONFIG_SERIAL_8250_16550A_VARIANTS, ends being a work around, as email was sent to a lot of locations, I also received it, by apritzel, asking why that commit was made..18:51
tuxd3v_he is asking why, and asking for more insight of the problem..18:52
c0rneliusYeah. I mean I the wifi works, its just 2.4GHz which in my house isn't the best. Bluetooth is a whole other thing.18:52
tuxd3v_because to gain 20ms in a virtual machine boot up, it ended cracking the uart devices, and so bluetooth is off in vitually any device :(18:53
c0rneliusOnly seen work like twice?18:53
tuxd3v_yes because that patch cut the timings needed for the uarts18:53
tuxd3v_the uarts ends timeout18:53
tuxd3v_WIFI is another history,because its sdio( the same interface as emmc,sdcard )18:54
c0rneliusSince I currently use it to run weechat I don't even bother with it anymore. I use a rtl88XXAU dongle on it, as that can get 5GHz.18:55
c0rneliusBut I know the onboard wifi works fine.18:56
tuxd3v_yeah WIFI 5Ghx, I don't know if the kernel already supports both modes?18:56
c0rneliusThat board only supports 2.418:56
tuxd3v_does you need a patch for it to work on 2.4Ghz and 5Ghz?18:56
tuxd3v_ok that was my idea18:56
c0rneliusthe NEO3/4 looks nice too18:57
c0rneliusThose are rockchip though18:57
c0rneliusrk3328/339918:57
c0rneliusThey have usb3 :)18:57
c0rneliusI bet they get hot as all hell though being in that small form factor.18:59
tuxd3v_I have nanipi R2s its a rk3328 and yes it get hot as hell, even without load..19:03
tuxd3v_I needed to buy the alumunium case, and even then its around 50-60 degress in the summer19:04
c0rneliusThose are nuts. I have a Renegade and Rock64 which uses the same SoC and without a heatsink and fan they are kinda useless.19:05
tuxd3v_it has 1 downside, it has a rtl8153b and it is a usb3-to-ethernet controller..19:05
tuxd3v_becaue of that it doesn't have tx buffers, and needs to be done on the kernel side of usb319:06
tuxd3v_and it resets a lot of times, if pushed to the extreme19:06
tuxd3v_I tested it around 1 month19:06
c0rneliusProbs cuz of the heat19:06
tuxd3v_heavy testing it19:06
c0rneliusUSB will reset if it gets to hot.19:07
tuxd3v_I believe its also the drivers, but I can't rule out the heat indeed..19:07
c0rneliusThe board is trying to save its self :)19:07
tuxd3v_the driver has a very bad decision ... when it resets it atributes a random maccadress do the device.. I had to craft there a static maccadress..19:07
tuxd3v_but the resets I couldn't solve.. not a new driver is out19:08
tuxd3v_2.0.15 I believe19:08
c0rneliusPut a fan on it and place it under heavy load and see what happens?19:08
tuxd3v_but I read that some users had problems with it, reseting so maybe the problem persists :/19:09
tuxd3v_in that regard I think that Alwinner devices are a lot better, a lot less heat19:09
tuxd3v_but they lack usb3 :/19:09
c0rneliusSorta yeah... They are good as they are easy to work with, but they also overheat really bad.19:10
c0rneliusEspecially the H519:10
tuxd3v_ho I didn't knew of that.. I only have h2+,h3,H619:11
tuxd3v_the H6 should be the one in nanopi R2S19:11
c0rneliusMy Tritium which is an H5 is just running Apache and has a huge heatsink on it and is currently sitting at - CPU Temp:  55°C19:11
tuxd3v_its formidable, but the drivers are not there yet, specially usb3 driver..19:12
c0rneliusIf I tried to compile something on it without a fan it would stall.19:12
tuxd3v_I believe, that when you push the processing power they heat, even the alwinner A20 do, I can't touch it when compiling mesa lima driver for userspace19:13
tuxd3v_it has small heatsing..19:13
tuxd3v_but without pushing them, they should mantain low temperatures..19:13
c0rneliusGenerally, yes.19:14
tuxd3v_nanopi r2s is mind blowing, as it heats even without load to crazy temps..19:14
c0rneliusAlso depends on location I suppose.19:14
tuxd3v_yes indeed, that also matters :)19:14
tuxd3v_I believe R2s heats a lot also because it has 2 internet controlers very close, the board is very small, and is closed to the heat can't excape..19:15
c0rneliusWell for sure. The form factor isn't ideal at all for that SoC.19:16
tuxd3v_but those guys are crazy.. they are charging now 48$ only for the basic board..19:16
tuxd3v_https://www.friendlyarm.com/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=28219:16
tuxd3v_they are rising the prices... I don't know if it has todo with pandemic..19:17
c0rneliusThey seemed to have raised the prices on everything.19:17
tuxd3v_indeed19:17
c0rneliusI think its the chip shortage.19:17
c0rneliusthis use to be way cheaper - https://www.friendlyarm.com/index.php?route=product/product&path=69&product_id=26819:18
tuxd3v_yeah I read about it19:18
c0rneliusand now you can't even buy it anymore :)19:19
tuxd3v_yes like my neo Air at 999$19:20
tuxd3v_its mind blowing19:20
tuxd3v_Its a chip shortage indeed, but its related with the pandemic, that created that situation..19:20
c0rneliusSomething like that19:21
tuxd3v_that are a lot of boards in standby to be produced because they can't acess the chips..19:21
tuxd3v_I am waiting for the rk3588 for a year or so, and nothing..19:21
ShorTieit's China being ass's21:43
ShorTiefoundation was smart and moved all of that stuff to the UK21:43
c0rneliusand the US not being smart enough to keep some of those jobs here.22:29
tuxd3v_ShorTie, I believe its a big problem inside of China because of the virus..23:06
tuxd3v_its not being talked much, but we notice that there capacity for mass production is severely indered..23:07
tuxd3v_I agree that countries should protect the jobs of their people , that is true :)23:07
tuxd3v_c0rnelius, your h5 has a mali 450 MP4, have you ever tried to compile mesa lima driver for it and then run:23:42
tuxd3v_'vblank_mode=0 glxgears'23:42
tuxd3v_?23:42
tuxd3v_I have Mali 400 MP2, the best results I got is ~330 fps23:42

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