| c0rnelius | I honestly don't run Devuan as a daily and it was only added to the builder by request. | 00:00 |
|---|---|---|
| Latrina | I see :) | 00:00 |
| c0rnelius | I'm not hung about systemd :) | 00:00 |
| Latrina | honestly I am kinda over the systemd war these days | 00:01 |
| c0rnelius | With that said I do test the imgs to make sure they work as well as the others, but thats as far as I go with it. | 00:01 |
| Latrina | though I have used Gentoo with OpenRC for the past 6 years and I came to appreciate it | 00:01 |
| c0rnelius | I was more of CRUX guy myself and I do like Void alot which I believe uses runit. | 00:02 |
| c0rnelius | But with that said, I'm old and lazy now and don't give a lot fucks. I just want stuff to work. | 00:03 |
| Latrina | I never liked runit myself | 00:03 |
| Latrina | I think it is the worst init system implementation by far | 00:03 |
| Latrina | OpenRC suits me well | 00:03 |
| c0rnelius | Its different for sure. | 00:03 |
| Latrina | sysvinit should do too | 00:03 |
| c0rnelius | I like the old BSD style, which is what attracted me to CRUX. | 00:04 |
| Latrina | oh same :) | 00:04 |
| Latrina | I have used freebsd for about 10 years | 00:04 |
| c0rnelius | But its all to much effort for me these days. Plus writing a quick systemd service file is super simples. | 00:04 |
| Latrina | can't really call myself a freebsd user these days given that all I run on it is the NAS cluster | 00:05 |
| c0rnelius | Hey its still BSD. | 00:05 |
| Latrina | but back in the days I used to be on it big times | 00:05 |
| c0rnelius | Me too | 00:05 |
| Latrina | I also like Solaris SMF | 00:05 |
| c0rnelius | I've played with it, but never got involved. Kinda like QNX. | 00:06 |
| Latrina | never used that one | 00:06 |
| Latrina | btw quick question. Does anyone know to what docker version the Devuan's 1.5-2 package refers to ? | 00:07 |
| Latrina | I would think it isn't actually docker 1.5-2 as it is way too old.. | 00:08 |
| c0rnelius | If ur on beowulf its gonna be a pretty old versiob. | 00:08 |
| c0rnelius | version* | 00:08 |
| Latrina | yeah I am On beowful | 00:09 |
| Latrina | fine, I will install the binaries | 00:10 |
| c0rnelius | I usually use Ubuntu for docker stuff. | 00:10 |
| stiltr | From packages.debian.org: docker (1.5-2) This is a transitional package for system tray docking application. | 00:10 |
| stiltr | I think you want docker.io | 00:11 |
| c0rnelius | Yeap. | 00:11 |
| c0rnelius | But will it work on Devuan out of the box? | 00:12 |
| Latrina | wouldn't that clash with systemd deps? | 00:12 |
| c0rnelius | Sometimes projects provide inits as well as the systemd service, but I'm not sure about the docker.io package. | 00:13 |
| c0rnelius | For example MotionEYE has inits available, they just aren't installed by default. | 00:14 |
| Latrina | https://raw.githubusercontent.com/moby/moby/master/contrib/init/sysvinit-redhat/docker | 00:14 |
| Latrina | wrong paste | 00:14 |
| stiltr | Considering its popularity and the fact that devuan hasn't forked it, I'd guess it would work, but I don't know for certain. | 00:14 |
| Latrina | stiltr, will try the binaries first | 00:15 |
| Latrina | thanks though | 00:15 |
| stiltr | No worries. Most of the devuan packages come straight from debian and they have a more convenient search page. haha | 00:17 |
| Latrina | :) | 00:21 |
| Tenkawa | stiltr: you've been around awhile right? | 00:29 |
| Tenkawa | (to unix and such) | 00:30 |
| stiltr | A while. haha. Not as long as some, but more than others. | 00:30 |
| Tenkawa | were you around for NCR SVR4 Microchannel? | 00:31 |
| Tenkawa | (and AT&T) | 00:31 |
| stiltr | Nah, that was a little before my time. | 00:32 |
| Tenkawa | that was during the X.25 days | 00:32 |
| Tenkawa | heheh | 00:32 |
| Tenkawa | yeah.. I'm old | 00:32 |
| stiltr | I feel old, does that count? | 00:32 |
| * Tenkawa notes he's sitting here with a broken collarbone and just recovered wrist | 00:33 | |
| Tenkawa | lol | 00:33 |
| c0rnelius | old man | 00:33 |
| Tenkawa | and barely even felt it | 00:33 |
| stiltr | Ouch! That doesn't sound fun. | 00:33 |
| Tenkawa | stiltr: sad part is… its not the first time I did it | 00:33 |
| Tenkawa | lol | 00:33 |
| Tenkawa | fortunately it was on my "bad" arm | 00:34 |
| Tenkawa | so I don't use it much anyway | 00:34 |
| stiltr | Shoot! Well maybe you'll learn your lesson this time. lol | 00:35 |
| Tenkawa | stiltr: doubtful | 00:35 |
| Tenkawa | lol | 00:35 |
| stiltr | Haha | 00:35 |
| c0rnelius | Yeah he won't | 00:35 |
| Tenkawa | especially if you knew me | 00:35 |
| Tenkawa | I was a former car racer, skateboarder, etc…. I never learn | 00:36 |
| Latrina | I ended up installing docker from the docker.io debian repo | 00:36 |
| Latrina | it worked | 00:36 |
| stiltr | Tenkawa: Haha, fair enough! | 00:36 |
| stiltr | Nice! | 00:36 |
| Tenkawa | but hey…. I'm going to keep trying to learn | 00:36 |
| Tenkawa | thats how I got into computers…. just by trying | 00:37 |
| Tenkawa | granted that was 40+ years ago | 00:37 |
| stiltr | Yeah, same here. Though more like 20 for me. haha | 00:38 |
| Tenkawa | for anyone interested.. Full Dune trailer was released the other day | 00:39 |
| stiltr | Oh cool. | 00:39 |
| Tenkawa | we may finally get something worth watching in Hollywood again | 00:39 |
| Tenkawa | it was an amazing trailer | 00:40 |
| * stiltr crosses fingers | 00:40 | |
| * Tenkawa is an original Dune fanatic even | 00:40 | |
| Tenkawa | may not have been true to the books but it was still good | 00:41 |
| c0rnelius | I'm sure everyone will hate it like they did Blade Runner 2049 because of the run time. | 00:42 |
| c0rnelius | Which also will cut down on prophet for the studio. | 00:43 |
| Tenkawa | I like long movies | 00:43 |
| c0rnelius | Not saying I dislike them, but most people can't sit thru more than 90 minutes at most. | 00:44 |
| Tenkawa | oh and this is just part 1.. wow | 00:45 |
| c0rnelius | Plus longer movies mean less showting in the theater, which also hurts them. | 00:45 |
| c0rnelius | showings* | 00:45 |
| Tenkawa | or called Dune: Part One | 00:45 |
| c0rnelius | oops profit* :) | 00:46 |
| c0rnelius | The trailer did look good. Hopefully it does well. | 00:46 |
| Tenkawa | yeah it looks amazing | 00:47 |
| c0rnelius | I read that James Gunn's new Suicide Squad movie is actually not garbage and is super gory. | 00:47 |
| c0rnelius | and the trailers for that was kinda garbage. | 00:48 |
| Tenkawa | I heard that it ws=asnt bad | 00:48 |
| Tenkawa | er wasnt | 00:48 |
| Tenkawa | c0rnelius: you said your n2+ is up and running atm right? | 00:49 |
| c0rnelius | If its like Brightburn with I higher budget I'm sure its pretty good. | 00:49 |
| c0rnelius | Yeah its running | 00:49 |
| Tenkawa | is it busy io atm or idling? | 00:50 |
| c0rnelius | idle | 00:50 |
| Tenkawa | wanted to see if you could run a hdparm if it wasnt io busy | 00:50 |
| Tenkawa | hdparm -t your emmc | 00:50 |
| c0rnelius | mmc or ssd? | 00:51 |
| c0rnelius | oh | 00:51 |
| c0rnelius | k | 00:51 |
| Tenkawa | going to test mine here in a sec (gotta plug it in to the socket) | 00:51 |
| c0rnelius | /dev/mmcblk0: | 00:52 |
| c0rnelius | Timing cached reads: 4228 MB in 2.00 seconds = 2114.00 MB/sec | 00:52 |
| Tenkawa | hopefully its hot/partprobe capable | 00:52 |
| c0rnelius | Timing buffered disk reads: 496 MB in 3.00 seconds = 165.33 MB/sec | 00:52 |
| c0rnelius | You can unbind and then bind it once plugged in, if it doesn't see it | 00:53 |
| c0rnelius | https://github.com/pyavitz/debian-image-builder/blob/feature/files/scripts/write2mmc#L45 | 00:54 |
| Tenkawa | yeah I'm going to have to do that | 00:55 |
| Tenkawa | it didnt see it | 00:55 |
| Tenkawa | there we go | 00:56 |
| Tenkawa | Timing cached reads: 3852 MB in 2.00 seconds = 1926.07 MB/sec | 00:57 |
| Tenkawa | Timing buffered disk reads: 514 MB in 3.01 seconds = 170.69 MB/sec | 00:57 |
| Tenkawa | not too bad | 00:57 |
| c0rnelius | looks fine. | 00:58 |
| c0rnelius | Is running really well for now. | 00:58 |
| Tenkawa | better than: | 00:58 |
| Tenkawa | Timing cached reads: 3772 MB in 2.00 seconds = 1885.96 MB/sec | 00:58 |
| Tenkawa | Timing buffered disk reads: 242 MB in 3.02 seconds = 80.18 MB/sec | 00:58 |
| Tenkawa | the sd card thats in there | 00:58 |
| Tenkawa | time for a clone | 00:59 |
| c0rnelius | I haven't had a single hiccup since the patch revert on the kernel. | 00:59 |
| Tenkawa | good | 00:59 |
| c0rnelius | Puts my RK3399 to shame really :) | 00:59 |
| c0rnelius | Although, that old grrl is still solid as all hell. | 01:00 |
| Tenkawa | by specs majorly.. theres only one rk thats even close | 01:00 |
| Tenkawa | its that big one | 01:00 |
| c0rnelius | Which SoC? | 01:01 |
| Tenkawa | let me look it up | 01:02 |
| c0rnelius | There are a few revisions of the 3399. I'm running one of the first which is slower than the rest. | 01:02 |
| c0rnelius | It's not slower by much, but yeah. It's not as speedy as the S922X thats for sure. | 01:03 |
| Tenkawa | the quartz64 one with the rk3568 | 01:04 |
| Tenkawa | still a lot to be developed for it but its a powerhouse | 01:04 |
| c0rnelius | I think thats the one they just talk about but have never released :) | 01:04 |
| Tenkawa | no.. its out | 01:05 |
| Tenkawa | 59.99 | 01:05 |
| Tenkawa | for the lowest level one | 01:06 |
| Tenkawa | https://pine64.com/product/quartz64-model-a-8gb-single-board-computer/ for the 8gb | 01:06 |
| Tenkawa | but like they say… good luck to you | 01:06 |
| c0rnelius | It only has 4 cores | 01:07 |
| Tenkawa | that is 1/2 the fun though | 01:07 |
| c0rnelius | https://gadgetversus.com/processor/rockchip-rk3399-vs-rockchip-rk3568/ | 01:08 |
| c0rnelius | Looks like the latest 3399 still beats it in the pure horse power department. | 01:09 |
| Tenkawa | way lower io though | 01:10 |
| Tenkawa | the pcie bandwidth would destroy it | 01:10 |
| Tenkawa | at least with what I've seen on the cm4 | 01:11 |
| c0rnelius | Would need to real world test it for sure. | 01:11 |
| c0rnelius | Buy one :) | 01:11 |
| Tenkawa | haahaa | 01:12 |
| Tenkawa | I'd still buy a Homeycomb LX2 first | 01:12 |
| Tenkawa | er Honeycomb | 01:13 |
| tuxd3v | Tenkawa, advance for the Honeycomb :) | 02:08 |
| tuxd3v | but I believe their support is still for older kernels :( | 02:08 |
| Tenkawa | tuxd3v: I want one of those but I would rather Beagle just get their act together and get the BeagleV released | 02:09 |
| Tenkawa | tuxd3v: older kernels isnt that big of a problem.. I was a kernel porter/developer.. I know resources there | 02:09 |
| tuxd3v | Latest machine I look, it has Baikal-M Cpu.. the problem is cortex a57@1.5Ghz | 02:11 |
| tuxd3v | if it was cortex a73@2Ghz I would by it.. | 02:12 |
| tuxd3v | even tought I don't know were to get it from lol | 02:12 |
| Tenkawa | this one is a 16xa72 | 02:13 |
| Tenkawa | granted its 750$USD | 02:13 |
| tuxd3v | its a 8 core: https://www.baikalelectronics.com/products/338/ | 02:14 |
| Tenkawa | (the LX2) | 02:14 |
| tuxd3v | Tenkawa, yeah that machine seems better is some respects also because it pack the double of cpus, their frequencies are also higher I believe | 02:14 |
| tuxd3v | but Baikal M packs 12MB cache ;) | 02:15 |
| Tenkawa | yeah and its a whole board.. not just the chip | 02:15 |
| Tenkawa | that cache wont do you that much good if you dont pipeline code for it | 02:15 |
| Tenkawa | and most people's code isn't designed for it | 02:16 |
| * Tenkawa starts up a 18 thread build of gcc-11 lol | 02:19 | |
| tuxd3v | :) | 02:24 |
| Tenkawa | got my server running crosscompiles for things like this | 02:25 |
| Tenkawa | I can let it run for 12-16 hours at a time+ | 02:26 |
| tuxd3v | what is your machine? your laptop? :) | 02:38 |
| tuxd3v | you have a crazy one :) | 02:38 |
| tuxd3v | powerfull | 02:38 |
| Tenkawa | tuxd3v: its a gaming machine | 02:40 |
| Tenkawa | so yeah designed to be | 02:40 |
| Tenkawa | It became a better server after I got a different machine so I just transitioned it | 02:41 |
| tuxd3v | I am still running a Xeon L5430, very old a 755 socket I believe :D | 03:06 |
| tuxd3v | but the principal problem is Ram for me :( | 03:07 |
| tuxd3v | only 4 GB | 03:07 |
| tuxd3v | I don't buy a computer since 2016 hehe | 03:07 |
| tuxd3v | in the work, I have company computers in the house I have 2 towers | 03:08 |
| tuxd3v | My cat managed to damage my personal laptop.. | 03:08 |
| Tenkawa | 16gb avg on all my build servers | 03:09 |
| Tenkawa | yeah I have to keep my cats away from my machines | 03:09 |
| tuxd3v | I still have a asus netbook, but last time I checked it doesn even power up | 03:09 |
| tuxd3v | lol | 03:09 |
| Tenkawa | they would do the same if I let them | 03:09 |
| tuxd3v | c0rnelius, found a good way to teach his own pets, I couldn't educate mine better | 03:10 |
| tuxd3v | maybe I failed at it.. | 03:10 |
| Tenkawa | our cats "teach | 03:10 |
| Tenkawa | er teach us | 03:10 |
| tuxd3v | right, agree :D | 03:10 |
| Tenkawa | my wife and I are trained well | 03:10 |
| tuxd3v | I feel he is always messing with things because he has no friend.. | 03:11 |
| Tenkawa | ours just like blinky lights and moving objects | 03:12 |
| tuxd3v | It s alonely cat, and maybe because of that he is like a terror :D | 03:12 |
| Tenkawa | we have 3 | 03:12 |
| tuxd3v | yeah, mine too, likes to mess with my stuff | 03:12 |
| tuxd3v | sometimes he stole from me even my credit card or my keys of the house.. | 03:13 |
| tuxd3v | its umbelivable.. | 03:13 |
| Tenkawa | ouch | 03:13 |
| tuxd3v | yeah a lot of times I find them behind the Sofa.. | 03:13 |
| tuxd3v | I already found some "secret" places were he hides things from me :D | 03:14 |
| Tenkawa | haahaa | 03:15 |
| Tenkawa | yeah I found spots where ours have dumped like 20 cat toys | 03:15 |
| Tenkawa | (more like lost) | 03:15 |
| tuxd3v | I never tought in getting 3, but I believe 2 I should have, because he cannot develop well only alone, and I can't substitute another cat.. | 03:15 |
| Tenkawa | we had 5 at one time and usually have 4 | 03:16 |
| tuxd3v | yeah | 03:16 |
| tuxd3v | how do you manage to feed them? and at night they do trouble | 03:16 |
| Tenkawa | we have feeder bowls for them and they are really good about it . | 03:17 |
| tuxd3v | mine is like as 23:30h seems that his spirit waks him up, and start running and screaming around, until 2/3 of the morning | 03:17 |
| Tenkawa | feed them twice a day and they do quite well | 03:17 |
| tuxd3v | Tenkawa, that is a thing that I never brought and I feel I should | 03:18 |
| Tenkawa | we've had cats over 20 years now so a lot of practice | 03:18 |
| Tenkawa | actually 26 years | 03:19 |
| Tenkawa | now that I think about it | 03:19 |
| Tenkawa | longer than I thought | 03:19 |
| c0rnelius | Jesus. What is up with people wanting grub on a Pi? | 03:21 |
| Tenkawa | c0rnelius: uggh that is just wrong | 03:22 |
| Tenkawa | grub on a pc is a pain enough | 03:22 |
| c0rnelius | The famous SUSE did it reply and not considering the fact those people get paid to make that shit work. | 03:23 |
| c0rnelius | And last time I checked they don't support a multi kernel system. It's just grub booting one kernel. | 03:23 |
| tuxd3v | c0rnelius, indeed I also saw that, and its not the first time they charge :D | 03:24 |
| Tenkawa | yeah | 03:24 |
| c0rnelius | tuxd3v: Yeah I'm done with that conversation :) | 03:25 |
| Tenkawa | c0rnelius: forum or online? | 03:26 |
| c0rnelius | The forum | 03:26 |
| tuxd3v | people are still insisting on it, you will and up with 2 bootloader, to boot only a system | 03:26 |
| Tenkawa | oh ok | 03:26 |
| c0rnelius | I understand getting a multi boot on different boot mediums, but wanting multi kernel support on one? Thats some x86 shit, that isn't gonna fly on a pi with out a lot of effort I thinks. | 03:28 |
| tuxd3v | c0rnelius, I agree with you | 03:28 |
| tuxd3v | I believe its possible to have a uboot booting menu, but a lot of devices don't have hdmi enable at boot time, so I don't how we could handle it for all devices.. | 03:30 |
| tuxd3v | don't know* | 03:31 |
| c0rnelius | yeah rk3328's uboot doesn't support hdmi. not in mainline anyway. | 03:31 |
| tuxd3v | but that question come from time to time.. | 03:31 |
| tuxd3v | yeah | 03:31 |
| c0rnelius | The problem with the Pi's is all the stages of the bootloader. | 03:32 |
| c0rnelius | Which complicates the whole process. | 03:32 |
| c0rnelius | Not to mention its still stuck on a fat partition for boot. | 03:32 |
| c0rnelius | Also some kernel revisions aren't gonna support other dtb files. So where does one put the file and how to tell grub use this one? | 03:33 |
| c0rnelius | Be some over the top scripting involved in this. | 03:34 |
| c0rnelius | Plus its an ARM SBC... It's not a desktop computer :) | 03:35 |
| c0rnelius | I should go complain to Roku and ask for multi boot on my TV box. | 03:37 |
| tuxd3v | I agree with everything :) | 03:37 |
| tuxd3v | people doesn't really think, I believe they are used to something and they believe it possible from the beginning, and its not like that.. | 03:40 |
| tuxd3v | systems have some constraints.. | 03:40 |
| c0rnelius | Unfortunately. | 03:40 |
| tuxd3v | yeah | 03:40 |
| tuxd3v | they can compile a new kernel, and adjust the system to boot the new one, if they want, its all what we need.. | 03:42 |
| Tenkawa | cheers all.. | 03:48 |
| c0rnelius | It really comes down to, it isn't an x86 computer. These devices depend on the dtb file which isn't always the same between revisions. So one would need to be specific of its location and or name for that kernel. | 03:58 |
| c0rnelius | And then the Pi boot loader looks for specific kernel names on top of that. Unless you tell it specific this is the kernel I want it to boot ur out of luck, but unfortunately you can't define the dtb. So even if you tell it this kernel, how is it gonna know the dtb file? | 04:01 |
| c0rnelius | Essentially its not gonna work. Multi booting two different OSs would probs be easier than having two or more kernel options on one system. | 04:02 |
| tuxd3v | c0rnelius, agree with you | 05:20 |
| c0rnelius | I'm trying not to be a dick :) | 05:20 |
| tuxd3v | I don't think you are :) | 05:21 |
| tuxd3v | I agree with everything, there are a lot of restrictions, majority are not even imposed by us | 05:22 |
| tuxd3v | and in the PI the situation with its bootloader, its even worst situation.. | 05:23 |
| c0rnelius | Yeah its not easy to work with | 05:24 |
| c0rnelius | As a matter of fact it complicates things | 05:25 |
| c0rnelius | Which is why I suggested if he/she put in the work, share. | 05:25 |
| c0rnelius | wtf :) | 05:25 |
| tuxd3v | indeed is does complicate, but it was the way they went.. | 05:25 |
| tuxd3v | agree with you :) | 05:25 |
| c0rnelius | thanx. I'll leave it alone. That person is pretty heated for some reason. | 05:26 |
| tuxd3v | we are talking about very serious work, that could take very long time, without any guaranties, I agree with you | 05:27 |
| c0rnelius | For sure. Thats way above my efforts as a contributor. | 05:27 |
| c0rnelius | To be frank | 05:28 |
| tuxd3v | I also noticed that, maybe he has some other issues, and thought that it was the perfect place to put them out.. | 05:28 |
| c0rnelius | If someone threw me a bone that would be one thing. | 05:28 |
| tuxd3v | yeah people don't understand the work we do, some people just feel that they have the right to claim some feature out of nowehere that they think would be the perfect thing.. | 05:30 |
| c0rnelius | I use to mod the xfce forum. I now remember why I stopped :) | 05:30 |
| tuxd3v | And I think that we have more serious things to be worried with.. | 05:30 |
| tuxd3v | :) | 05:30 |
| c0rnelius | Yeah people today. I don't know what happened? | 05:30 |
| c0rnelius | I don't care really. Ha | 05:31 |
| c0rnelius | I just shake my head a lot. With that being said I'm all up to being shown something I don't hence why I pushed for a contribution. | 05:31 |
| tuxd3v | yeah we have to let it go, one time I had a user that was asking for support on rpi1 for sata disk in usb | 05:33 |
| c0rnelius | I don't know* | 05:33 |
| c0rnelius | Well... thats just silly. | 05:33 |
| tuxd3v | he was with a bad power supply... but the problem was trying to convince him of that.. always charging :D | 05:33 |
| c0rnelius | sounds like the pi channel | 05:33 |
| tuxd3v | after so many posts, he just come back, and asks me for sorry, because I was right and he was out of his way :D | 05:33 |
| tuxd3v | I said ok, everything fine. :) | 05:33 |
| c0rnelius | Well in the end, it is fine. | 05:34 |
| tuxd3v | yeah :) | 05:34 |
| c0rnelius | I get out of line sometimes. I think? I thinks we all do. | 05:34 |
| c0rnelius | We aren't perfect beings. I know I'm not anyway. | 05:34 |
| c0rnelius | I try | 05:34 |
| tuxd3v | sometimes we all do, probably also due to personal reasons that end affecting us on other things.. | 05:35 |
| c0rnelius | exactly | 05:36 |
| c0rnelius | personal life. what a shit show :) | 05:36 |
| tuxd3v | we should avoid mixing waters, but I know that sometimes we just can't, because we are humans | 05:36 |
| tuxd3v | yeah :) | 05:36 |
| c0rnelius | Well sir, this is why I try and avoid interaction. People are weird. | 05:37 |
| tuxd3v | agree :D | 05:37 |
| c0rnelius | Even when I try to be helpful people are off I find. | 05:37 |
| tuxd3v | yes | 05:38 |
| tuxd3v | :) | 05:38 |
| Latrina | good morning | 10:32 |
| Latrina | so far I have been pretty impressed with devuan on the rpi4b | 10:32 |
| Latrina | I guess I will roll it across the cluster this weekend | 10:32 |
| adhoc | Latrina: what does your cluster look like? | 11:20 |
| Latrina | adhoc, 5 rpi4b | 11:43 |
| Latrina | running raspian + kubernetes | 11:43 |
| adhoc | what kinda of cluster are you building ? | 11:43 |
| adhoc | ah, k8s | 11:43 |
| Latrina | k3s actually | 11:43 |
| adhoc | just starting to get my gitlab runners setup | 11:43 |
| adhoc | yeah, use that at work | 11:43 |
| Latrina | the OS boots from PXE and NFS | 11:45 |
| adhoc | neat | 11:45 |
| adhoc | I was messing with flatcar on x86-64, as there is also an arm64 version | 11:45 |
| Latrina | never heard of that | 11:46 |
| adhoc | flatcar is fedora based | 11:46 |
| Latrina | I really wanted to switch from a 32bit to a 64bit arm distro | 11:46 |
| adhoc | with all the pain and suffering that systemd brings | 11:46 |
| Latrina | though non of the raspios 64bit worked for me | 11:46 |
| Latrina | than I remembered the Devuan project and here I am :) | 11:47 |
| adhoc | Latrina: so how did it go installing? | 14:49 |
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