| joerg | I guess I should put a ban on ozone in this channel ;-) She wouldn't love to see this | 00:42 |
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| joerg | (ozone == sigyn) | 00:43 |
| mason | joerg: Does she hate ALSA with burning rage? | 00:49 |
| joerg | [4 Jun 2021 00:47:17] <jess> single users flooding will not make ozone interested in your channel | 00:51 |
| joerg | [4 Jun 2021 00:47:17] <spb> joerg: voice them | 00:51 |
| joerg | [4 Jun 2021 00:47:54] <spb> having voice will bypass a lot of the ircd spambot checks which are what might summon ozone without being invited | 00:51 |
| joerg | I learned ozone is now a "he" | 00:51 |
| mason | Ah. Either way. I guess I could have used a pastebin. Didn't think of it. | 00:52 |
| mason | Ended up not being useful in any event. | 00:52 |
| mason | golinux wasn't on a computer that could access this | 00:52 |
| joerg | hm? | 00:53 |
| joerg | access what? | 00:53 |
| mason | joerg: We were on the weekly meeting and golinux was having audio issues. I pasted that into the meeting chat but golinux couldn't copy/paste, so I tried here instead, but she was not at a computer where she could see that when she needed it. | 00:53 |
| mason | So, a pastebin might have been more useful after all. | 00:54 |
| golinux | mason: I finally got it fixed without an asoundrc | 00:54 |
| joerg | well, I'm mainly interested in keeping the channel operational and useful | 00:54 |
| mason | golinux: Good good. What was it, out of curiosity? | 00:54 |
| mason | joerg: I appreciate it! | 00:54 |
| golinux | Jitsi was on the wrong audio device. | 00:55 |
| mason | joerg: What's the intended count before a paste starts looking spammy? | 00:55 |
| golinux | 3 or 4 lines | 00:55 |
| mason | ah, and I was at ten | 00:55 |
| golinux | unless you're voiced which we are now. | 00:55 |
| joerg | no idea. Depends I guess. A very generic rule says "no more than 3 lines" but... we're free to ignore that | 00:55 |
| joerg | the command is /msg chanserv flags #devuan-dev <nickname> +V | 00:57 |
| joerg | for +V_oice | 00:58 |
| mason | Ah, thanks. I don't think I inherited ops in the new world order. | 00:58 |
| mason | checking | 00:58 |
| mason | Oh, thank you. | 00:59 |
| mason | kk | 00:59 |
| mason | I'll limit myself to voicing people who should be voiced in here. I've grown fond once again of suppressing joins/parts. | 01:00 |
| joerg | could you please try to voice me? | 01:00 |
| joerg | I guess you can't | 01:01 |
| mason | Oh, hold on. | 01:01 |
| mason | Oh, I see. | 01:01 |
| mason | I thought I'd reacquired ops, but I've reacquired +V | 01:01 |
| mason | I'm fine without ops, FWIW./ | 01:02 |
| mason | bbiab, making use of the remaining daylight | 01:02 |
| golinux | Voice != ops | 01:04 |
| joerg | mason: you may voice me now and do /msg chanserv flags #devuan-dev <nickname> +V for other users | 01:04 |
| joerg | golinux: you as well | 01:05 |
| joerg | set +v mode on users and make them receive automatic +v by the above command | 01:06 |
| joerg | the f is the permission they do same as well | 01:07 |
| joerg | the v is the permission for voicing termporarily, and the V is permanent auto-voicing | 01:07 |
| joerg | mason: you were +o on FN? | 01:11 |
| joerg | sorry I lost any ACLs from there | 01:11 |
| joerg | at least right now | 01:11 |
| joerg | and particularly of this channel | 01:11 |
| joerg | I'll stick with what parazyd has set up for new, except the +V for "everybody" | 01:16 |
| joerg | for now* | 01:16 |
| joerg | the idea being you won't trigger attention of any spam filtering when pasting long code segments, and in case of spambot attacks you can simply set the channel +q so only those with voice may talk which doesn't apply to any bots | 01:17 |
| joerg | /ac *!*@devuan/* +fvV | 01:23 |
| joerg | and /msg chanserv deop .... does the opposite | 01:36 |
| joerg | please everybody consider project cloaks | 01:42 |
| joerg | /who devuan/* | 01:43 |
| Beer | I wrote to parazyd about that cloak and I guess he offered a devuan/user one... but I went AFK for a bit and he wasn't responsve aymroe afterwards :D | 02:24 |
| Beer | Are we sticking to "generic" roles or could that be customised? | 02:24 |
| UsL | I was surprised that libera.chat didn't have +x cloaks | 02:24 |
| UsL | I am used to xmpp. Having your ip fully visible again is refreshing though. | 02:25 |
| mason | He gave me one but they started hanging out work cloaks, so I snagged one. | 02:27 |
| mason | So he'll likely get to it at some point before long. | 02:27 |
| Beer | work cloaks? | 02:28 |
| mason | ~mason@redhat/mason | 02:28 |
| Beer | Ah. Oh, Red Hat. | 02:29 |
| Beer | And it seems I got a Devuan cloak after all! | 02:29 |
| mason | I had one on Leenode, and wasn't sure what was happening here. | 02:29 |
| Beer | Well, parazyd, if you're around: thx! :D | 02:29 |
| UsL | Fleenode? | 02:30 |
| Beer | I guess that's a pun: Freenode : Andrew Lee | 02:30 |
| Beer | Freenode + Andrew Lee | 02:30 |
| mason | kk, looks like I can voice people | 02:30 |
| UsL | And Fleenode since r is hard to pronounce sometimes. | 02:31 |
| mason | if anyone's missing a voice say the word, and thanks Xenguy for pointing it out | 02:31 |
| Beer | What does the voice attribute do? | 02:32 |
| Beer | Is it only vanity? | 02:32 |
| UsL | no, you can speak when +m I think | 02:32 |
| mason | No, I think it means you can speak when the channel is moderated to silence, and joerg was noting it exempts you from some automated limits. | 02:32 |
| mason | That. | 02:32 |
| UsL | I haven't really done irc since 2005. But Some stuff never gets forgotten somehow. | 02:33 |
| mason | The flags here are a bit different. | 02:33 |
| mason | Founder isn't evidently the same, for instance. Freenode, it was +F with +f being all-but-+F | 02:34 |
| Beer | https://github.com/solanum-ircd/solanum/blob/main/doc/oper-guide/cmodes.rst | 02:35 |
| mason | Hrm, I think if I have +f it implies +o. Lessee. | 02:35 |
| Beer | Libera Chat runs solanum, which they brought with them from Leenode | 02:35 |
| Beer | (I'm using "Leenode" as of now if I may borrow that mason? :D) | 02:35 |
| mason | Beer: I can't claim credit. Go for it. :) | 02:36 |
| Beer | Haha | 02:36 |
| * Xenguy likes Fleenode... | 02:36 | |
| Beer | Oh that's a good one too | 02:36 |
| Beer | So many puns! | 02:36 |
| * Beer brains explode | 02:36 | |
| Xenguy | : -) | 02:36 |
| UsL | but.. that.. I did.. Oh well. | 02:37 |
| UsL | ; ) | 02:38 |
| UsL | oh, look at that. Sun is rising. Gnight devuans | 02:38 |
| Beer | nn | 02:39 |
| Beer | UsL: You're right. Didn't notice :P | 02:39 |
| UsL | I need +V! :) | 02:40 |
| Xenguy | nn | 02:40 |
| UsL | nn | 02:40 |
| joerg | mason: I don't think you can op yourself or anybody else | 03:11 |
| joerg | +f only applies for the other flags you have | 03:12 |
| joerg | sou you can give +Vv ACL records to other users | 03:14 |
| joerg | and obviously you can ask chanserv to (de)voice other users immediately | 03:15 |
| mason | joerg: Yeah, that seems right. | 03:17 |
| Beer | That's all in the docs, if you got the courage to read 'em: https://github.com/solanum-ircd/solanum/blob/main/doc/oper-guide/cmodes.rst | 03:19 |
| Beer | (I haven't... yet) | 03:20 |
| joerg | well, or in /msg chanserv help flags | 03:20 |
| Beer | That's true. /msg chanserv -> /cs, too | 03:25 |
| Beer | It seems /quote help cmode is more verbose | 03:26 |
| joerg | cmodes are not same like ACL flags though, they are like executive and admisistration level | 03:33 |
| Beer | OK sry then. Dammit down the rabbit hole it goes | 03:35 |
| joerg | chanserv's ACL list makes chanserv set certain cmodes (+v_oced) to certain users either automatically (+V: automatic +v_oiced of a certain user on join) or on command to do so (/msg chanserv voice #devuan-dev beer ) | 03:36 |
| Beer | (trying to run compiled solanum on the side) | 03:36 |
| joerg | the latter command is only free to use for you if you got a +v flag in chanserv flags aka ACL | 03:38 |
| joerg | using this command you may voice yourself or arbitrary other users until they leave the channel. a +V (uppercase) in same ACL will make chanserv auto-voice you on join | 03:40 |
| Beer | ALright thx for all that | 04:08 |
| Beer | nn y'all | 04:08 |
| LeePen | Just deployed new updates to amprolla. Please advise if you notice anything unexpected in the repositories. | 11:46 |
| bgstack15 | LeePen: the xrdp 0.9.12-1.1+devuan1 package has been built in Jenkins now. | 21:07 |
| bgstack15 | In a day or so, should I go ahead and roll unstable to 0.9.15? | 21:07 |
| LeePen | bgstack15: Thanks. Yes, once 0.9.12-1.1+devuan1 is in chimaera (5 days) | 22:03 |
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