| brocashelm | let me know when we can proceed with the wiki talks | 00:39 |
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| golinux | proceed anytime | 00:51 |
| golinux | We'll discuss any progress on Thuirsday. | 00:52 |
| brocashelm | great! | 00:52 |
| plasma41 | fsmithred: Just so we're on the same page: When the description in the Devuan net-tools package says "In the upstream package 'hostname' and friends are included." it's not referring to the Debian package. That text actually comes from the Debian package and refers how the software is distributed by the sourceforge upstream. | 01:10 |
| fsmithred | oh, I see you're right. The debian description is the same. | 01:12 |
| rrq | plasma41: at a quick glance the only significant source difference is in debian/patches/Bug_549397-fix-decoding-of-MII-vendor-ids.patch concerning the show_basic_mii function | 01:29 |
| plasma41 | rrq: Is that Devuan-specific in any meaningful way? | 01:34 |
| rrq | no .. i.e., yes, maybe any original reason for forking net-tools have become void | 01:35 |
| rrq | has | 01:35 |
| fsmithred | Rebuilding to reset priority to important | 01:39 |
| fsmithred | Mar 2018 ^^^ | 01:39 |
| fsmithred | Version: 1.60+git20181103.0eebece-1 | 01:40 |
| fsmithred | Priority: optional | 01:40 |
| fsmithred | sid ^^^ | 01:40 |
| brocashelm | i'm going to test out that new refracta (runit) iso right now | 01:42 |
| gast0n | fsmithred: I tried the Alpha desktop-live (amd64) version of Chimaera again, but now with: apparmor=0, and I no longer had a problem with the screen freezing. The test I am doing on a netbook with Dual Core Intel Atom N2600 with 2GB of RAM. | 01:51 |
| gast0n | later I will test it on a PC with an AMD Athlon 64 3000 | 01:51 |
| gast0n | with apparmor=0 | 01:51 |
| fsmithred | ok, I think I'll add it back in now before I forget | 01:52 |
| fsmithred | thanks | 01:52 |
| gast0n | apparmor sucks? | 01:52 |
| gast0n | :D | 01:53 |
| gast0n | do you want me to comment on this in the thread you started on the mailing list? | 01:53 |
| fsmithred | yes, that would be good. Others may give more info. | 01:54 |
| fsmithred | I don't know apparmor well enough to comment on it. | 01:55 |
| gast0n | the other thing is that the wallpaper is not that of Devuan, one of XFCE appears | 01:55 |
| fsmithred | you booting from usb? | 01:55 |
| gast0n | yes | 01:55 |
| fsmithred | I get the same with my live usbs, even without desktop-base. | 01:56 |
| fsmithred | but if I use a persistent volume and change the wallpaper on the desktop, it sticks when I boot with persistence. | 01:56 |
| gast0n | the volume control appears with an X and does not work | 01:57 |
| fsmithred | yeah, there's some conflict in package deps | 01:57 |
| fsmithred | pavucontrol got installed but not pulseaudio (I think I said that right) | 01:57 |
| gast0n | n which folder can I find the devuan wallpaper in this live version? | 01:58 |
| gast0n | in* | 01:58 |
| plasma41 | fsmithred & rrq: I just ran a debdiff on the source packages of net-tools from Sid and Ceres and there is absolutely no meaningful difference that I can see. | 01:58 |
| fsmithred | plasma41, did you check the control files? | 01:59 |
| fsmithred | Priority: | 01:59 |
| plasma41 | fsmithred: The only difference I see between the control files is in Maintainer, Uploaders, Vcs-Browser, Vcs-Git, and Origin fields. | 02:01 |
| plasma41 | fsmithred: Priority is important in both. | 02:01 |
| fsmithred | huh | 02:01 |
| fsmithred | maybe debian changed back | 02:01 |
| fsmithred | apt show net-tools shows the following for sid | 02:02 |
| fsmithred | Version: 1.60+git20181103.0eebece-1 | 02:02 |
| fsmithred | Priority: optional | 02:02 |
| fsmithred | gast0n, /usr/share/desktop-base or /usr/share/images/desktop-base | 02:04 |
| gast0n | thanks :) | 02:04 |
| plasma41 | fsmithred: I don't know how you're seeing that. https://tracker.debian.org/media/packages/n/net-tools/control-1.60git20181103.0eebece-1 refutes that. | 02:05 |
| fsmithred | I have this in sources.list: deb http://debian.csail.mit.edu/debian sid main | 02:06 |
| fsmithred | pinned low | 02:06 |
| fsmithred | that's weird | 02:08 |
| brocashelm | the refracta chimaera test iso is pretty nice so far. the deepsea-milky wallpaper looks good too. i'm taking a look at the runscript collections and reading the document now | 02:10 |
| plasma41 | fsmithred: Downloading http://debian.csail.mit.edu/debian/pool/main/n/net-tools/net-tools_1.60+git20181103.0eebece-1_amd64.deb and running 'dpkg-deb --info' on it shows "Priority: important". | 02:12 |
| plasma41 | Unless someone can find something I'm missing, we should drop net-tools from our list of forked packages. | 02:13 |
| fsmithred | I just installed debian recently. If it's still there, I'll check. | 02:21 |
| fsmithred | If I can remember where it is. | 02:21 |
| brocashelm | ok, having a problem here | 02:24 |
| rrq | presumably debian has changed back to "important"... in any case, I'd agree with plasma41 | 02:24 |
| brocashelm | following the steps, /etc/init.d/cron start = permission denied | 02:24 |
| fsmithred | isn't cron set to run from a runit script? | 02:24 |
| fsmithred | cron and anacron? | 02:24 |
| brocashelm | yes, but it gave me the same error with stop (first step) | 02:26 |
| brocashelm | the other steps worked (like dpkg-divert) | 02:26 |
| brocashelm | my output: https://paste.debian.net/plainh/be6b2464 | 02:28 |
| rrq | chmod a+x /etc/init.d/cron | 02:29 |
| brocashelm | ah | 02:30 |
| fsmithred | oh yeah. I neutered the ones I switched over to run scripts. | 02:33 |
| fsmithred | read the readme! | 02:33 |
| brocashelm | yeah, it worked otherwise | 02:36 |
| brocashelm | i'll try a few other services next | 02:37 |
| fsmithred | plasma41, in the bullseye I installed yesterday, net-tools has Priority: optional and it did not get installed by default. | 02:39 |
| fsmithred | and BTW, 2G ram in the VM is not quite enough for gnome to function. Takes a long time for anything to happen. | 02:40 |
| fsmithred | and I know I'm in the wrong channel for this, but I resent having to type 'terminal' in a search box to be presented with a terminal icon on the desktop. | 02:41 |
| plasma41 | fsmithred: FWIW, Ctrl+Alt+T opens a terminal window on my system. I think it's part of the standard Xfce config. | 04:13 |
| fsmithred | this was in gnome on debian bullseye | 04:14 |
| fsmithred | that key combination might work. It works in other places, too. | 04:15 |
| LeePen | Beowulf updated: clearlooks-phenix-cinnabar-theme, eudev and rsyslog | 15:49 |
| fsmithred | thanks | 17:09 |
| plasma41 | Larabel's watching us like a hawk. https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Devuan-4.0-Alpha-Builds-July | 20:18 |
| plasma41 | The comments section so far is surprisingly chill. I guess that's a good thing, but I was kinda hoping to enjoy some delicious saltiness :-P | 20:22 |
| brocashelm | yeah, i like reading the discussions there | 20:54 |
| brocashelm | good so far | 20:54 |
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