| aldcor | hi! which devuan has xfce? | 16:51 |
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| fsmithred | aldcor, the desktop-live isos have xfce and any of the installer isos will install xfce if you don't change anything in the tasksel window | 16:56 |
| aldcor | oh, i see! good to know. thanks! | 16:56 |
| fsmithred | one exception is the speech synthesis installs on all the installer isos | 16:57 |
| fsmithred | you'll get mate with that, and the computer will talk to you | 16:57 |
| aldcor | yeah, i was reading that.. confused me | 16:57 |
| aldcor | oops.. i don't want AI talk to me | 16:57 |
| fsmithred | it's for blind people. | 16:57 |
| fsmithred | you get a real plain text installer with that | 16:57 |
| aldcor | i have no problems with vision :) | 16:57 |
| aldcor | but good idea to have it for people who needs it | 16:58 |
| dan9er[m] | I have this 3rd-party Xbox 360 wireless receiver dongle from a company called HDE. It's not official, so in their instructions they tell me to do something dodgy on Winblows: Open Device Manager, select the "unknown device", and manually/forcefully assign the X360 receiver driver to it. | 17:17 |
| dan9er[m] | Is there a equivalent on Linux, or is there a better way? Yes I'm aware I can fuck my shit up if i'm careless | 17:19 |
| fsmithred | dan9er[m], look at dmesg when you plug it in or try lsusb for more info about the hardware. Maybe there is already a firmware package for it in the repo. | 17:37 |
| fsmithred | dmesg | tail\ | 17:38 |
| fsmithred | no | 17:38 |
| fsmithred | dmesg | tail | 17:38 |
| aldcor | so, i installed devuan on external sdd but it's not showing up in boot menu. At one point I was asked to install EFI partition iirc and i selected sdb1 which is meant for boot. And that's wrong step i guess. | 17:42 |
| aldcor | i might be understanding this wrong also.. so correct me if I am | 17:43 |
| aldcor | also there was option to do smth with windows partition but i didn't wana touch that | 17:43 |
| aldcor | i mean regarding EFI | 17:43 |
| fsmithred | are you using a live iso or installer iso? | 17:44 |
| aldcor | devuan_chimaera_4.0.2_amd64_desktop-live | 17:44 |
| fsmithred | how many partitions do you have? | 17:45 |
| aldcor | on external sdd i got two - boot and `the rest` | 17:45 |
| fsmithred | do you have a separate partition for /boot? That is not the same thing as the efi partition | 17:45 |
| aldcor | oh | 17:45 |
| aldcor | i see, so I need another partition for EFI | 17:45 |
| aldcor | so - boot, EFI and `the rest` right? | 17:45 |
| fsmithred | fdisk -l | 17:46 |
| fsmithred | don't paste the output here | 17:46 |
| aldcor | i can't do it now, gotta reboot | 17:46 |
| fsmithred | you're not in the live system now? | 17:47 |
| aldcor | I'm in windows now. So I got two partitions on external disk (on which I want devuan) and they are boot and `home` or whatever you want to call `the rest`. And on Windows i got efi, `home` and recovery partition | 17:48 |
| fsmithred | where's the linux root partition? | 17:49 |
| aldcor | if i understand correctly I need to repartition and make EFi partition. i guess reinstall | 17:49 |
| aldcor | linux root is `the rest` | 17:50 |
| fsmithred | is your windows booting in uefi mode? | 17:50 |
| aldcor | yes | 17:50 |
| fsmithred | then you already have the efi partition | 17:50 |
| fsmithred | you don't need to tell grub about it, but the live installer will ask you to select it. | 17:50 |
| aldcor | oooh | 17:50 |
| aldcor | i see | 17:50 |
| aldcor | when it asked to select I thought that's the location on which something will be installed | 17:51 |
| fsmithred | I think it will. Maybe only if there's more than one. I forget. I don't do many uefi installs. | 17:51 |
| aldcor | and so I didn't select it cause I got important work on windows | 17:51 |
| fsmithred | it asks for partition for os, for home, for /boot and for efi | 17:51 |
| aldcor | yes | 17:51 |
| aldcor | i see now | 17:51 |
| fsmithred | it won't wipe out the window bootloader | 17:51 |
| aldcor | yes, I was afraid of that | 17:52 |
| fsmithred | look on the efi partition and you should see something like EFI/windows and EFI/devuan (or maybe debian) | 17:52 |
| fsmithred | and then of course, some motherboards will only recognize the windows directory | 17:52 |
| fsmithred | (HP I'm looking at you) | 17:53 |
| aldcor | ok, gona reinstall and hopefully not wipe windows away :D | 17:54 |
| fsmithred | wait | 17:54 |
| aldcor | yes? | 17:54 |
| fsmithred | just boot the live iso and let's look at what you have | 17:54 |
| aldcor | right | 17:54 |
| fsmithred | you might just need to install the bootloader | 17:54 |
| aldcor | fdisk -l you need? | 17:55 |
| fsmithred | did you see a bunch of files fly past in the termiinal during the install? | 17:55 |
| fsmithred | did you get to set root and user passwords? | 17:55 |
| aldcor | yes | 17:55 |
| fsmithred | cool. boot and examine | 17:55 |
| fsmithred | you have more than just that one computer? Or do you have to leave here to reboot? | 17:55 |
| aldcor | no, i'm sshing | 17:57 |
| aldcor | i'm in live now | 17:57 |
| aldcor | hm. i remember I made efi partition before | 17:58 |
| aldcor | i have to repartition anyway | 17:58 |
| fsmithred | do not remove the existing efi partition | 17:58 |
| fsmithred | do not add another efi partition | 17:59 |
| aldcor | yes, when i run install it says not to format | 17:59 |
| fsmithred | yeah, on some systems that could screw it up badly | 17:59 |
| aldcor | I added it (maybe) on external disk | 17:59 |
| aldcor | so, i think maybe fresh install might be better | 17:59 |
| aldcor | sure, I will not remove existing efi | 18:00 |
| aldcor | that's my biggest fear :) | 18:00 |
| fsmithred | post fdisk -l output to paste.debian.net | 18:00 |
| aldcor | command not found | 18:00 |
| fsmithred | su vs 'su -'? | 18:00 |
| fsmithred | use su - | 18:00 |
| aldcor | wait how would this work even? I'm booted via usb now | 18:01 |
| aldcor | i have no option to boot IN to external disk now | 18:01 |
| fsmithred | that's ok | 18:01 |
| aldcor | ok, what is password? | 18:02 |
| fsmithred | usb is connected to same computer as the hard drive? | 18:02 |
| aldcor | yes | 18:02 |
| fsmithred | root toor | 18:02 |
| fsmithred | devuan devuan | 18:02 |
| fsmithred | it'll see the hard drive | 18:02 |
| fsmithred | or use sudo in the live system | 18:03 |
| aldcor | as I said.. i'm via usb now. I don't have access to my external disk | 18:04 |
| aldcor | can't authenticate | 18:04 |
| fsmithred | oh | 18:04 |
| fsmithred | can't plug both in at the same time? | 18:04 |
| aldcor | i can however use gparted to view | 18:04 |
| fsmithred | I'm confused | 18:05 |
| fsmithred | is the external disk attached? | 18:05 |
| aldcor | yes | 18:05 |
| fsmithred | then fdisk will see it | 18:05 |
| aldcor | i can't use fdisk command | 18:05 |
| fsmithred | are you root? | 18:06 |
| aldcor | no.. i can't authenticate | 18:06 |
| fsmithred | what command gave you that message? | 18:06 |
| aldcor | https://paste.debian.net/1254277/ | 18:09 |
| aldcor | this is visible during install first steps | 18:09 |
| aldcor | you know it's all clear to me actually. i will reinstall | 18:12 |
| fsmithred | yeah. | 18:12 |
| fsmithred | you don't need sda1 | 18:12 |
| aldcor | this is time wasting what we do now | 18:12 |
| aldcor | yeah, i realized that. i was making it as /boot i guess | 18:12 |
| fsmithred | are you only going to boot this external drive on this one computer? | 18:13 |
| aldcor | yes | 18:13 |
| fsmithred | cool. YOu only need one partition for linux | 18:13 |
| fsmithred | and it'll use the internal efi partition to boot | 18:13 |
| fsmithred | nvme-whatever | 18:13 |
| fsmithred | where were you sshing to? | 18:14 |
| aldcor | my raspberry pi | 18:14 |
| aldcor | power of weechat :) | 18:15 |
| fsmithred | I can relate. Part of this conversation happened on a vnc connection with the laptop on the other side of the room | 18:15 |
| aldcor | i was typing from laptop on which i got voidlinux, at one point from windows again and then from usb live.. without ever leaving channel. i like that concept :) | 18:17 |
| aldcor | however ugliness of xfce vannile is impressive.. | 18:18 |
| aldcor | but is is speed of it | 18:19 |
| aldcor | impressive | 18:19 |
| aldcor | fsmithred: no I'm in stage where it asks to install bootloader, abort, chroot or continue | 18:20 |
| aldcor | i think I didn't click `install bootloader` before | 18:20 |
| fsmithred | install bootloader | 18:23 |
| fsmithred | and don't be alarmed if it installs it twice | 18:24 |
| aldcor | all good | 18:25 |
| aldcor | booted in disk now | 18:25 |
| fsmithred | cool | 18:25 |
| aldcor | thanks for support ;) | 18:25 |
| fsmithred | yw | 18:26 |
| aldcor | wow.. only one display resolution available | 18:27 |
| aldcor | i need driver I guess | 18:27 |
| fsmithred | ? | 18:27 |
| fsmithred | amd? | 18:27 |
| aldcor | nvidia 3080 O_O | 18:28 |
| fsmithred | lspci -k | 18:28 |
| fsmithred | make sure it's using nouveau | 18:28 |
| aldcor | kernel modules: nouveau | 18:29 |
| aldcor | doing update now | 18:30 |
| aldcor | maybe after update I will have other resolution options? | 18:30 |
| fsmithred | probably not. That's a new iso. | 18:30 |
| aldcor | right | 18:30 |
| fsmithred | I'm surprised there's only one res available. But maybe you do need to install nvidia driver | 18:30 |
| fsmithred | which i proabably should not help you with. Check debian wiki for instructions. | 18:31 |
| aldcor | yeah, me too | 18:31 |
| fsmithred | oh | 18:31 |
| fsmithred | I can help | 18:31 |
| aldcor | these days installing drivers are easy | 18:31 |
| aldcor | usually they're in repos | 18:31 |
| fsmithred | make sure you install with option --no-install-recommends so you avoid nvidia-persistenced | 18:32 |
| fsmithred | yeah, make sure contrib and non-free are enabled in sources.list | 18:32 |
| aldcor | nice. now I can see something :) | 18:52 |
| aldcor | after installing nvidia driver, every apt installation ends with - `nvidia-persistenced. E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1` | 23:34 |
| aldcor | i tried some solutions I found online but error persists | 23:34 |
| aldcor | however, packages are installed | 23:34 |
| fsmithred | aldcor, is nvidia-persistenced installed? | 23:39 |
| Xenguy | An insane tactical game: https://yewtu.be/watch?v=bHLGHQet3Qk | 23:45 |
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