| Wizzup | freemangordon: so the service providers have gconf keys for a custom ui, like icons, markup text, etc, this is also what I used in my video a few days ago | 11:46 |
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| Wizzup | the problem is that these are stored in this path: /system/osso/connectivity/srv_provider/%s/custom_ui/%s (format with service_type, service_id) | 11:46 |
| Wizzup | So there is no way to set the tor icon for the tor service type, unless you set it for every existing service_id | 11:47 |
| Wizzup | I don't think that makes sense , and I don't want to implement duplicating the keys for no reason for every service_id (which is really just a configuration for a service) | 11:47 |
| Wizzup | freemangordon: this is iap_common_get_service_gconf_path btw | 11:48 |
| Wizzup | so my suggestion was to add something like /system/osso/connectivity/srv_provider/%s/default_custom_ui | 11:48 |
| Wizzup | I'm becoming more inclined to just have the same icons for every service_id though, and not allow for the even further customisation for now | 11:59 |
| inky_ | we don't have tablet mode applet, right? | 13:06 |
| inky_ | i have no sim card, but i know that modem announces itself to the networks. | 13:06 |
| inky_ | so i'd like it to not even announce. | 13:06 |
| buZz | what does 'offline mode' do for you inky_ ? | 13:23 |
| inky_pbp | where does leste store internet connections information? | 13:51 |
| inky_pbp | i'd like to back it up from time to time | 13:51 |
| inky_pbp | if i just backup my home, will the connections be backed up too? | 13:52 |
| parazyd | Install gconf-editor and have a look around as normal user | 13:54 |
| parazyd | Everything's there | 13:54 |
| parazyd | From CLI you can use gconftool | 13:54 |
| Wizzup | inky_: so you mean you want the modem offline | 14:24 |
| lel | MerlijnWajer opened a pull request: https://github.com/maemo-leste/connui-common/pull/1 (iap-common: add default_custom_ui provider parsing) | 14:48 |
| joerg | wait what? modem doesn't announce itself to networks particularly if it has no SIM. AFAIK | 14:48 |
| Wizzup | freemangordon: see https://github.com/maemo-leste/connui-common/pull/1 | 14:48 |
| lel | MerlijnWajer opened a pull request: https://github.com/maemo-leste/connui-internet/pull/3 (status-menu-item: use iap_common_get_service_properties) | 14:53 |
| Wizzup | freemangordon: and https://github.com/maemo-leste/connui-internet/pull/3 | 14:53 |
| joerg | the only way to make the modem start tra<nsmitting without SIM is to start a 911 call | 15:06 |
| lel | MerlijnWajer synchronize a pull request: https://github.com/maemo-leste/connui-common/pull/1 (iap-common: add default_custom_ui provider parsing) | 15:07 |
| joerg | unless somebody fucked up the fundamental cellular air protocol specs since they been established | 15:08 |
| joerg | look at it this way: a modem without SIM would not even know at *which* network it should "announce itself" | 15:10 |
| inky_pbp | Wizzup, yes always offline. i am not doing anything criminal but i don't like that 'they' see where am i. | 15:12 |
| inky_pbp | so i never use cellular. my xa2 is in offline mode. first thing i did with pinephone before turning it on was to switch the modem off. | 15:12 |
| inky_pbp | joerg, i believe i have read a former engineer on diaspora who wrote modem drivers, and he was saying it announces itself to all towers. anyway, good to hope it doesn't. | 15:13 |
| inky_pbp | so on xa2 i don't have a sim card but i also keep it in airplane mode. | 15:14 |
| inky_pbp | sailfish allows airplane + wifi, but maemo needs tablet mode. | 15:15 |
| inky_pbp | parazyd, thank you, so everything is in home. great! i know gconf-editor, used it before. thanks for the tip! | 15:15 |
| Wizzup | inky_pbp: triangulation does happen, but that requires you to be connected to the network | 15:18 |
| _inky | good to know. | 15:18 |
| _inky | btw i do understand what uvos says, and i do consider abook + telepathy a killer feature that i really need. and i enjoy it on sailfish. | 15:19 |
| _inky | and it was suggested to uvos to look at manjaro posh | 15:20 |
| joerg | inky_pbp: I wouldn't know the protocol the towers would accept to receive and process such SIM-less registration | 15:20 |
| _inky | so i think maemo is much better | 15:20 |
| _inky | than manjaco posh | 15:20 |
| _inky | even now. | 15:20 |
| _inky | because it's devuan, without systemd integration | 15:20 |
| _inky | because it is very leightweight | 15:21 |
| _inky | even now posh uses wayland, but i use x forwarding with maemo | 15:21 |
| _inky | maemo is really cool. | 15:22 |
| joerg | inky_pbp: for reference, I worked on modem firmware, so that probably tops that diaspora driver author ;-) | 15:24 |
| inky_pbp | joerg, thanks! | 15:25 |
| joerg | also note, the whole thing changes massively as soon as you initiate a 911 call | 15:26 |
| inky_pbp | good to know. | 15:26 |
| inky_pbp | back to abook, it is such a pleasure to scroll through the address book, and see that this person is busy in jabber - don't write them, and this person is online. | 15:28 |
| inky_pbp | i am really surprised that it existsed only on maemo and still exists only on sailfish. | 15:29 |
| inky_pbp | well may be on nemo as well? didn't try nemo for some time. | 15:29 |
| inky_pbp | but i really like modules, and i don't understand the details good enough. | 15:30 |
| Wizzup | inky_: agreed | 18:01 |
| kona | Sweet, repo updates fixed geary. | 19:26 |
| kona | I don't suppose there's already a Maemoized mail app, though? | 19:27 |
| Wizzup | We haven't ported over modest yet, although some people did make a start with that, there is another mail app, but I don't think it's hildonized | 19:28 |
| lel | MerlijnWajer synchronize a pull request: https://github.com/maemo-leste/connui-common/pull/1 (iap-common: add default_custom_ui provider parsing) | 19:29 |
| inky | i searched to understand better what this 'hildonized' means but didn't understand. so hildot is a gtk2 fork, right? | 19:37 |
| inky | and probably it has elements for menus | 19:37 |
| inky | and this notification yellow line | 19:38 |
| inky | so i probably teed ho litk ho libhildon instead of libgtk? or to both? | 19:43 |
| inky | does ribhildon complement or replace gtk? | 19:43 |
| Wizzup | kona: if you want to work on it, see https://github.com/0mark/modest4leste | 19:43 |
| inky | tdat what i did not undershand. | 19:43 |
| inky | sorry for typing errors | 19:44 |
| kona | I kinda do, wizzup | 19:45 |
| kona | Hoping to score a pinephone kb too when they release :) | 19:45 |
| inky | i'd better use droid to type. just the letters are small and hard to read | 19:46 |
| Wizzup | It might not be super hard, I just haven't really looked at it, but the repo I linked above has lots of details | 19:46 |
| kona | Is the repo owner still active? | 19:48 |
| Wizzup | kona: not sure if he's around on irc | 19:53 |
| kona | Ok, I'll reach out and see. | 19:55 |
| inky__ | It is me r droid. | 19:56 |
| inky__ | From | 19:56 |
| inky__ | Ok again typing problems | 19:57 |
| kona | Higher signal to noise ratio, though | 19:57 |
| inky__ | So should one link to libhildon instead of gtk or to both? | 19:58 |
| kona | I'm still daily driver on Android | 19:58 |
| inky__ | I cannot use android. Mostly sailfish, and trying to use droid more. Got pinephone and motivated to bring more software to maemo to use. | 19:59 |
| kona | Same question, I saw some comment about gtk2 vs gtk3 on the Maemo Leste wiki, too. | 19:59 |
| kona | Same, I just couldn't find a sailfish phone. | 20:00 |
| kona | Tried lineage for a week on a spare oneplus and might flash it on this s10e in a week or two | 20:01 |
| Wizzup | well, I think a lot of exciting stuff is around the corner :) | 20:01 |
| Wizzup | having the mail client would be welcome | 20:01 |
| Wizzup | I think soon we'll have some kind of working phone calls, and audio setup on pp, droid4, n900, and there's the maemo contacts coming now | 20:01 |
| kona | I'm also messing with the Bluetooth firmware on pinephone, because on screen keyboard has drawing issues, but maybe I should debug that instead | 20:02 |
| kona | (Specifically one or more rows don't always render, have to switch to symbols and back to workaround) | 20:03 |
| Wizzup | yeah, the pinephone 3d situation is a bit saddening | 20:03 |
| Wizzup | we focus a bit more on the droid4 and n900 currently | 20:03 |
| Wizzup | although I think the pinephone 3d has improved | 20:04 |
| inky__ | Kona, sailfish works on sony devices. Still maemo is more like a normal linux with normal kernel. So i like it more. It already made a lot of proress and now is promising. | 20:04 |
| inky__ | Ok i got used to small font of hexchat on droid. | 20:05 |
| kona | Yes, I also prefer marm | 20:05 |
| kona | Maemo* since os2007 | 20:05 |
| inky__ | Aaaaa, found a way to increase it. Yay. | 20:06 |
| inky__ | I used it since os2008, still havetwo n810s | 20:06 |
| inky__ | I think those are very beautiful. | 20:06 |
| inky__ | Unfortunately mainline kernel doesnt work on them. | 20:07 |
| kona | Mine are somewhere in a box since ssl/tls switch. Lovely machines. | 20:07 |
| inky__ | Yesterday i was talking to someone who was very sceptical about linux devices | 20:08 |
| kona | I don't think mainline supports HTC vision, either, and I think mine has bad flash, so I picked I a pinephone | 20:08 |
| kona | Skeptical how? | 20:11 |
| inky_ | and he asked if i tried to use ios. | 20:11 |
| inky_ | and i told him - how can i use something that will cut internet connection of my programs? | 20:11 |
| inky_ | and showed him that i have full multitasking on maemo. | 20:12 |
| inky_ | when you press the left upper button, and see all windows, not just screenshots of them, like in case of android, but real updated windows. | 20:12 |
| inky_ | one of those can be mplayer. | 20:12 |
| inky_ | which shows video in background. | 20:12 |
| kona | Was he interested? | 20:20 |
| inky_ | well it was completely different perspective for him. | 20:20 |
| inky_ | but people are reluctant to believe in things that aren't widespread. | 20:21 |
| kona | "We fear change" | 20:23 |
| kona | That's OK. Less demand on pinephones and droids for us :) | 20:24 |
| inky_ | heh. (: | 20:24 |
| sicelo | kona: hildonized mail application is apparently Trojita | 21:35 |
| kona | Is that in devuan already? | 21:36 |
| sicelo | here, https://github.com/maemo-leste-extras/Trojita | 21:37 |
| sicelo | i haven't used it myself though | 21:37 |
| sicelo | kona: in other works, `apt install trojita` on your leste device should work | 21:40 |
| sicelo | s/works/words/ | 21:41 |
| kona | Will check it out. Modest feels more... Maemo, though:) | 21:41 |
| sicelo | i agree :-) | 21:41 |
| sicelo | but .. | 21:41 |
| kona | Working is working and I could focus on something else? :) | 21:45 |
| sicelo | i think you can definitely work on modest. | 21:47 |
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