| Brainstorm | Updates for Rwanda: +122 cases (now 8250), +7 deaths (now 86) since 23 hours ago | 00:19 |
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| Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews: worldnews: In less than 2 weeks, Israel has vaccinated 10% of its population against Corona → https://is.gd/RPe1c4 | 00:35 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Switzerland: +101 deaths (now 7594) since 23 hours ago | 00:57 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews: worldnews: Covid: France mobilises 100,000 police to stop New Year's Eve gatherings → https://is.gd/5kpEpY | 01:00 |
| CoronaBot | 04/r/covid19: Vaccine Roundup, Late December (80 votes) | https://blogs.sciencemag.org/pipeline/archives/2020/12/30/vaccine-roundup-late-december | https://redd.it/kn93i9 | 01:04 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews: worldnews: Antibiotics banned in UK but fed to US animals ‘may undermine drugs for cancer, Covid and infections’: Ban on hormone beef and chlorinated chicken in UK-US trade deal would not be enough to protect consumers, report warns. → https://is.gd/4tmKI0 | 01:26 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews: worldnews: Nurse suspended after stripping PPE to have sex with Covid patient → https://is.gd/bRriPm | 01:51 |
| LjL | top quality news, ladies and gentlemen, is what we provide | 01:52 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for France: +16127 cases (now 2.6 million) since 22 hours ago — Canada: +8152 cases (now 573658), +89 deaths (now 15467) since 23 hours ago — N. Mariana Is.: +9 cases (now 122) since 21 days ago — Netherlands: +6638 cases (now 788211) since 22 hours ago | 01:52 |
| Brainstorm | New from Lockdowns from Wikipedia: Monkbot: Task 18 (cosmetic): eval 201 templates: hyphenate params (5×);: Task 18 (cosmetic) : eval 201 templates: hyphenate params (5×); ← Previous revision Revision as of 00:50, 31 December 2020 Line 148: Line 148: A third wave of COVID-19 arrived in Ireland on 21 December. {{cite [... want %more?] → https://is.gd/uhc8nH | 02:04 |
| Brainstorm | New from "Cluster 5" on Wikipedia: OAbot: Open access bot: doi added to citation with #oabot.: Open access bot : doi added to citation with #oabot. ← Previous revision Revision as of 01:25, 31 December 2020 Line 8: Line 8: In Denmark, there have been five [[gene cluster|clusters]] of mink variants of SARS-CoV-2; the Danish [[Statens Serum [... want %more?] → https://is.gd/74bzDF | 02:28 |
| CoronaBot | 04/r/covid19: Rapid inactivation in vitro of SARS-CoV-2 in saliva by black tea and green tea (80 votes) | https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.12.28.424533v1 | https://redd.it/kmeajm | 02:28 |
| LjL | Spec, ↑ tea! | 02:30 |
| CoronaBot | 04/r/coronavirus: Dawn Wells, ‘Gilligan’s Island’s’ Mary Ann, Dies of COVID at 82 (10222 votes) | https://variety.com/2020/tv/news/dawn-wells-dead-gilligans-island-mary-ann-1234876755/ | https://redd.it/kn91mg | 02:53 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Seychelles: +39 cases (now 256) since a day ago | 03:13 |
| Brainstorm | New from BBC Health: (news): New Year's Eve Covid warning as millions are told to 'stay at home' → https://is.gd/IQzBn1 | 03:35 |
| CoronaBot | 04/r/covid19: North American deer mice are susceptible to SARS-CoV-2 (80 votes) | https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.07.25.221291v1.full | https://redd.it/knarx2 | 03:53 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews: worldnews: US distillers fined 14 grand for making hand sanitizer during shortage/pandemic. Help spread this. → https://is.gd/6dg8Ww | 04:13 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for New Zealand: +11 cases (now 2162) since a day ago | 04:15 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews: worldnews: Thailand becomes first country to ban eating and drinking on domestic flights due to COVID-19 → https://is.gd/avKIQN | 05:03 |
| Brainstorm | New from BBC Health: (news): Covid: New Year's Eve warning as millions are told to stay at home → https://is.gd/IQzBn1 | 05:27 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Belgium: +2831 cases (now 644242), +80 deaths (now 19441) since 23 hours ago | 05:58 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Indian Express: World: Anthony Fauci sees US gaining control over pandemic by next autumn → https://is.gd/E9Jlke | 06:04 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Indian Express: World: Mexico says approval of AstraZeneca vaccine ‘imminent’ after UK go-ahead → https://is.gd/vO2CLm | 06:41 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Indian Express: World: A Chinese Covid-19 vaccine has proved effective, its maker says → https://is.gd/llH8Ac | 07:06 |
| CoronaBot | 04/r/covid19: Efficacy and Safety of the mRNA-1273 SARS-CoV-2 Vaccine (81 votes) | https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2035389 | https://redd.it/knd8bn | 07:06 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for New York, United States: +12917 cases (now 963390), +153 deaths (now 37840) since 23 hours ago — Illinois, United States: +7374 cases (now 955380), +215 deaths (now 17811) since 23 hours ago — Louisiana, United States: +6744 cases (now 311229), +51 deaths (now 7448) since 23 hours ago [... want %more?] | 07:19 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Indian Express: World: McConnell thwarts Trump bid for $2,000 coronavirus economic relief checks → https://is.gd/LVsgjq | 07:30 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | what the heck does this mean? >>If the number of participants in a subgroup was too small, it was combined with other subgroups for the subgroup analyses.<< from Efficacy and Safety of the mRNA-1273 SARS-CoV-2 Vaccine | 08:01 |
| Brainstorm | New from Medical Xpress: Published data from Moderna COVID-19 vaccine trial show 94.1 percent efficacy: A peer-reviewed paper published in The New England Journal of Medicine provides data from the much-anticipated COVE study, which evaluated mRNA-1273, a vaccine candidate against COVID-19 manufactured by Moderna, Inc. Results from the primary analysis [... want %more?] → https://is.gd/FIQIoM | 08:19 |
| Brainstorm | New from Medical Xpress: Brain damage of patients with Covid-19: In an in-depth study of how COVID-19 affects a patient's brain, National Institutes of Health researchers consistently spotted hallmarks of damage caused by thinning and leaky brain blood vessels in tissue samples from patients who died shortly after contracting the disease. In addition, [... want %more?] → https://is.gd/USqCBL | 08:31 |
| Brainstorm | New from Medical Xpress: Study of virus screening at concert reports zero infections: The organizers of an indoor music festival in Barcelona to test the effectiveness of same-day coronavirus screening said Wednesday that preliminary results indicate there was zero transmission inside the venue. → https://is.gd/h4tfpL | 08:43 |
| Brainstorm | New from Medical Xpress: Scientists trying to understand new virus variant: Does it spread more easily? Make people sicker? Mean that treatments and vaccines won't work? Questions are multiplying as fast as new variants of the coronavirus, especially the one moving through England and now popping up in the U.S. and other countries. → https://is.gd/ULuYLl | 08:55 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Czechia: +17039 cases (now 718661), +151 deaths (now 11580) since 23 hours ago | 09:04 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/Coronavirus: Daily Discussion Thread | December 31, 2020: The WHO pages contain up-to-date and global information. Please refer to our Wiki for additional information. → https://is.gd/Gk9Uqq | 09:08 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Indian Express: World: Hindu-American community mobilises efforts to distribute over 2,96,000 pounds of food amid COVID-19 → https://is.gd/w8zkmn | 09:46 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Indian Express: World: Brexit, lockdown and a vaccine: A head-spinning day of change in UK → https://is.gd/82Z1OL | 09:58 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews: worldnews: Japan may consider declaring a state of emergency to counter rising Covid-19 cases → https://is.gd/YGngay | 10:35 |
| Brainstorm | New from StatNews: First Opinion: Opinion: As a doctor in the Covid-19 era, I’ve learned that judging patients’ decisions comes easier than it should → https://is.gd/4Vuu2k | 10:48 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Indian Express (Health): Art and Culture: With the stage locked down, a new art form emerged during the pandemic — the Digital Theatre → https://is.gd/7356Ez | 11:00 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | Happy New Year in Kiribati (Tabwakea Village), Samoa (Apia) | 11:00 |
| decimuss[m] | Hope 2021 is a much happier year for everyone | 11:14 |
| mobidrop | I hope it, but I expect that things are going to get worse | 11:17 |
| de-facto | RKI COVID-19 Germany 2020-12-31 (between the years rep.): Weekly incidence 139.8/100k, Infections +32552 (1719737 total), Fatalities +964 (33071 total), COVID@ICU 5615 (incl 3094 on ventilator) | 11:39 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Germany: +32186 cases (now 1.7 million), +1030 deaths (now 33296) since 23 hours ago | 11:39 |
| de-facto | so lockdown ... could not prevent numbers that are comparable to before the lockdown? | 11:40 |
| de-facto | or is it too early to tell? | 11:40 |
| de-facto | 32k infections per day, thats 32-fold too much to control | 11:40 |
| de-facto | probably we need a hard curfew 24/7 | 11:41 |
| jason500[m] | virus evolved to level 20 | 11:41 |
| jason500[m] | r0 basically doubles | 11:42 |
| de-facto | people just dont seem to understand that they should NOT have any contacts to other people | 11:42 |
| jason500[m] | people are social, goes against basic nature | 11:42 |
| de-facto | i did not see any human since like Dec 20 in person | 11:42 |
| de-facto | its not that hard | 11:42 |
| elchupacabra420[ | Whats nothing less than completely against human nature. | 11:42 |
| de-facto | humans are stupid, they want to be entertained and socially interact, even if it means they could die. | 11:43 |
| jason500[m] | kids and families can't stay home nonstop | 11:43 |
| jason500[m] | muhh social time muhh likes | 11:43 |
| jason500[m] | especially teenagers | 11:43 |
| de-facto | why not? get stuff for lockdown, then stay indoors strictly without exception | 11:43 |
| jason500[m] | they must be fuming | 11:44 |
| de-facto | fuming is not good for their health anyhow | 11:44 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Slovakia: +6315 cases (now 179543), +73 deaths (now 2138) since a day ago | 12:10 |
| Brainstorm | New from BMJ: Covid-19: Frontline doctors speak out about struggle to maintain care standards: Frontline doctors have testified to deteriorating conditions in hospitals in London and the south east as the NHS deals with a surge in covid-19 cases.Speaking to the Independent SAGE group of... → https://is.gd/fcGPwR | 12:13 |
| de-facto | I really do hope people do NOT party tonight, it would be ASTRONOMICALLY futile not to isolate in high incidence areas. | 12:48 |
| Brainstorm | New from Medical Xpress: Fatigue, loss of smell, organ damage: A range of symptoms plague many long after COVID-19 infection: Just as much of the nation was shutting down because of the coronavirus pandemic in March, Michaelene Carlton's 17-year-old son tested positive for COVID-19 and quickly passed it to his parents. → https://is.gd/cWfZTQ | 12:49 |
| mobidrop | my brother is going to a party, I'm staying at home | 12:54 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Malaysia: +2525 cases (now 113010), +8 deaths (now 471) since a day ago | 12:54 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Switzerland: +36 deaths (now 7624) since 18 hours ago | 13:00 |
| mobidrop | ironically my brother is also pro lockdown and I'm against | 13:07 |
| blkshp | Why are you against it!? | 13:10 |
| mobidrop | it causes more damage suffering than it prevents | 13:14 |
| blkshp | Please, elaborate. | 13:14 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Indian Express (Health): Fitness: Yearender 2020: Cycling tops fitness charts amid pandemic restrictions; celebs lead the way → https://is.gd/Hrjh3L | 13:15 |
| mobidrop | we severely damage the mental / physical / economic health of the 99% to "protect" the 1%, badly | 13:19 |
| mobidrop | countries with very strict lockdowns, less strict lockdowns, and no lockdowns show similar curves in death rates | 13:19 |
| mobidrop | so the suffering induced to the population seems to have little effect to reduce death | 13:20 |
| de-facto | how can you know the estimate of how much cost in health, fatalities and economy (COVID has severe impact on economy) was not prevented by a lockdown? i.e. how can you assume lockdowns are ineffective for a specific country (you cant just compare to other countries with totally different circumstances and epidemiological history) | 13:23 |
| de-facto | like how can you assume it would not have been worse without lockdown? obviously contact rates are reduced by lockdowns, and infections only can happen on contact hence should be directly linked to contact rates | 13:24 |
| mobidrop | seeing as the average age of death from covid is the same age as the average life expectancy, all economic damage incurred because of COVID is due to our response, not because of the threat that this virus poses | 13:25 |
| mobidrop | obviously we can't compare lockdowns vs no lockdowns in the same country because we only have the data for lockdowns | 13:26 |
| de-facto | if that was the case (average age from covid and natural death being the same) how come there is any overmortality at all? | 13:26 |
| de-facto | its simply not the case | 13:26 |
| mobidrop | but everybody in the beginning was saying Sweden had a bad policy, now we can say that they did the right thing for Sweden | 13:26 |
| mobidrop | huh you're right | 13:27 |
| mobidrop | seems like the average age of death for corona is higher than the average life expectancy in the Netherlands | 13:28 |
| mobidrop | I just looked up the numbers | 13:28 |
| de-facto | lol something cant be correct there, would that mean that getting covid prolongs your life over average? | 13:29 |
| mobidrop | seems like 2019 was a very mild flu season, so that's why some older people survived for one more year and there's a bigger spike in this year | 13:29 |
| mobidrop | no there's other causes for death other than just corona | 13:30 |
| de-facto | yeah such effects can play a role indeed, hence better compare to an average of one decade or such | 13:30 |
| mobidrop | we're also dealing with an aging population so higher death numbers could start to be a normal thing (boomer generation dying off) | 13:31 |
| de-facto | yeah but the other causes should not have changed too much by COVID, maybe even less (e.g. less flu this year etc) or more (people dont visit hospitals because of fear to catch COVID) | 13:31 |
| de-facto | both effects are thinkable | 13:31 |
| mobidrop | there's a lot of numbers that don't add up for me so I don't think taking the freedom of the 99% to badly protect the 1% is sensible anymore | 13:32 |
| de-facto | this is simply wrong much more than 1% are severely affected by COVID | 13:33 |
| de-facto | %cases NL | 13:33 |
| Brainstorm | de-facto: In Netherlands, there have been 792943 confirmed cases (4.5% of the population) and 11371 deaths (1.4% of cases) as of 6 hours ago. 6.0 million tests were performed (13.2% positive). See https://offloop.net/covid19/?default=Netherlands for time series data. | 13:33 |
| mobidrop | according to official government data 98% doesn't get badly ill with little to no symptoms | 13:34 |
| de-facto | so already 4.5% of population had a detected infection, take ~5-fold of that (those would be the factor for Germany, probably NL got similar?) for getting the infection numbers, hence ~22.5% | 13:34 |
| mobidrop | 1-1.5% has to go to the hospital, 0.35% has to go to IC | 13:35 |
| de-facto | many will suffer from longterm impact of having had COVID much much more than those severely ill enough to end up on ICU | 13:35 |
| de-facto | you cant do black and white thinking there, you would have to look at all the "gray" effects in between | 13:36 |
| mobidrop | just like before there were people suffering long term effects from getting the flu, but back then it was an acceptable risk | 13:36 |
| mobidrop | to be free is also to be free to go out and get ill, just like being free to stay at home and not take any risk | 13:37 |
| de-facto | .title https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.12.24.20248802v2 | 13:37 |
| Brainstorm | de-facto: From www.medrxiv.org: Characterizing Long COVID in an International Cohort: 7 Months of Symptoms and Their Impact | medRxiv | 13:37 |
| de-facto | "96% reported symptoms beyond 90 days." | 13:38 |
| de-facto | mobidrop, its not just about yourself, we all sit in one boat with this, so you cant talk about "your own" freedom/risk/whatever because your behavior seriously affects the health of others too in a pandemic situation. unfortunately this demonstrates the limits of "western" individualism, it ends where the freedom of others gets affected (and this is very much the case with pathogen transmission) | 13:39 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | happy new year! | 13:40 |
| mobidrop | DocScrutinizer05, is it already 2021 where you live? :) | 13:41 |
| de-facto | hoping for a much better year 2021, since 2020 was a complete disaster. | 13:41 |
| mobidrop | de-facto, the politicians that get their high salaries regardless don't sit in the same boat as the thousands of people they put out of a job with their policies | 13:41 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | isn't the recipient's timezone relevant more than then sender's? | 13:42 |
| mobidrop | de-facto, just because some are at risk doesn't mean the entire population should give up all their constitutional rights, who really is selfish here? | 13:42 |
| elchupacabra420[ | <mobidrop "de-facto, the politicians that g"> So true. | 13:42 |
| darsie | 2020 was great. Nature could recover a bit. Or ... die slower. | 13:43 |
| mobidrop | also if I really saw the severity of this supposed pandemic I'd also easily fall in line, but the numbers don't add up at all | 13:45 |
| de-facto | mobidrop, everyone is at risk and is impacted by the presence of the pathogen, the entire population MUST give up their stupid behavior that leads to uncontrolled spread of this potentially deadly virus. Selfish are those that dont recognize the biological impact of the contagion and disease from this pathogen because they would place their own needs above those of a society from which they still want to profit. | 13:45 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | de-facto: let me know if, contrary to all prior instances and experience, you achieve whatever small result in a debate with corona deniers | 13:46 |
| de-facto | and talking of a "supposed pandemic" 10 months into this being a fact of everydays life speaks for itself revealing your true attitude. | 13:46 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | +1 | 13:47 |
| mobidrop | de-facto, obviously in a time of the black plague / Spanish flu pandemic you're right; but in normal times there is also a pathogen that is potentially deadly for the few: the flu | 13:47 |
| de-facto | its not a flu. not at all | 13:47 |
| mobidrop | and I'm thinking this Corona virus is a lot closer to the flu than to a real pandemic like the Spanish flu / black plague | 13:47 |
| de-facto | oh my | 13:47 |
| mobidrop | well apparently the death rate for the normal flu is higher for people < 60 than corona | 13:47 |
| de-facto | source? | 13:48 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | >>a lot closer to the flu than to a real pandemic like the Spanish flu<< find the mistake | 13:48 |
| de-facto | mobidrop, your claims are just false. | 13:48 |
| mobidrop | DocScrutinizer05, I mean influenza vs Spanish flu haha | 13:49 |
| mobidrop | de-facto, I have to look it up | 13:49 |
| de-facto | maybe start with https://github.com/mbevand/covid19-age-stratified-ifr#comparing-covid-19-to-seasonal-influenza | 13:49 |
| de-facto | .title | 13:49 |
| Brainstorm | de-facto: From github.com: GitHub - mbevand/covid19-age-stratified-ifr: Calculates the age-stratified infection fatality ratio (IFR) of COVID-19 | 13:49 |
| de-facto | COVID is over ONE MAGNITUDE more deadly than seasonal flu | 13:50 |
| de-facto | more than 10 times as deadly is hardly comparable in my book | 13:50 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | >><mobidrop> DocScrutinizer05, I mean influenza vs Spanish flu haha<< Spanish flu WAS an influenza HAHA¡ | 13:50 |
| de-facto | and comparing diseases 100 years ago does not make any sense either | 13:50 |
| de-facto | medical system was much different back then, as was life and everything else | 13:51 |
| Brainstorm | New from BMJ: Covid-19: Russia admits to understating deaths by more than two thirds: Russia’s true death toll from the novel coronavirus pandemic is not about 57 000, as official figures claim, but more than 180 000, the country’s deputy prime minister, Tatiana Golikova, conceded at... → https://is.gd/HaLuvq | 13:52 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I wonder what makes people who are convinced they get cheated by authorities and there's no such thing like a pandemic, join media channels that try to provide proper info instead of fake and then those folks try to argue why everybody attendant except themselves was plain wrong | 13:52 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | maybe deep in their subconscious thesy know they are wrong and they hope somebody would convince them? Or are they so scared about their own beliefs that they hope to convince others so they get some approval for their own notion | 13:55 |
| mobidrop | I just want the truth | 13:56 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | well, except US residents of course, who think a virus is sth political | 13:56 |
| de-facto | if you want the truth then try to collect information from credible sources that have contradicting claims (i.e. on both sides, especially the side you think is not true) and try to find out what remains of the claims when investigated further. | 14:01 |
| mobidrop | hard to find anything about flu deaths, all articles I see mention corona | 14:02 |
| de-facto | have you looked at the link i posted? | 14:03 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | >><mobidrop> I just want the truth<< Oh? And I thought you already decided the publicly available mainstream info was _not_ the truth and you instead already found _your_ truth in facebook, twitter and shady "enlightened" youtupe channels | 14:04 |
| Brainstorm | New from BBC Health: (news): Covid: New Year's Eve warning as millions are told to stay at home → https://is.gd/IQzBn1 | 14:04 |
| de-facto | .title https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden/2018-2019.html | 14:04 |
| Brainstorm | de-facto: From www.cdc.gov: Estimated Influenza Illnesses, Medical visits, Hospitalizations, and Deaths in the United States â 2018â2019 influenza season | CDC | 14:04 |
| de-facto | if you https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confirmation_bias | 14:05 |
| de-facto | then you would not find the truth | 14:05 |
| mobidrop | well you also have confirmation bias, you don't like seeing info that makes the pandemic seem less bad such as the fact that the average death age for corona is higher than the average life expectancy | 14:06 |
| de-facto | btw about confirmation bias: this is a very good first question to ask for any study that is published, what effort did they made to exclude confirmation bias | 14:07 |
| de-facto | mobidrop, so lets assume that getting covid prolongs the life expectancy beyond the average death age for a moment, how would that be consistent with an increased death rate in 2020 i.e. overmortality? | 14:08 |
| mobidrop | de-facto, I don't understand the jump you make in thinking that this data would suggest that getting covid prolongs the life expectancy? | 14:10 |
| mobidrop | de-facto, for example maybe the average deathrate for falling is higher than the average life expectancy, but that doesn't mean falling from the stairs increases your life expectancy | 14:10 |
| ubLIX[m] | mobidrop: in your mind, what is the significance of the observation that average age of death due to covid may be found to be higher than life expectancy? | 14:13 |
| de-facto | comparing the probability to die at a certain age from a previous year, say 2019 where COVID was not there with the probability for the same age to die in 2020 with COVID present, it obviously did increase, especially for the elderly | 14:13 |
| de-facto | https://www.cbs.nl/en-gb/news/2020/48/less-excess-mortality-during-second-wave-but-still-high-after-9-weeks | 14:13 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ubLIX[m]: prolly a >>those who die from covid did deserve it, they already lived longer than the average<<?? TF! | 14:14 |
| de-facto | so if probability to die with the presence of covid did increase, how can that make the pandemic look less bad? getting covid shortens the life expectancy obviously, otherwise we would not have fatal outcomes caused by COVID. | 14:14 |
| mobidrop | ubLIX[m], it means that covid is not a significant threat to the vast majority of the population | 14:16 |
| de-facto | 30% of population is at high risk | 14:22 |
| de-facto | in my book a significant thread | 14:22 |
| ubLIX[m] | in unnatural isolation, the fact, should it prove durable, does indeed have a suggestive force in the direction you take | 14:22 |
| ubLIX[m] | but i think you take the isolation of that fact beyond reason | 14:23 |
| mobidrop | according to the government > 98% has no significant symptoms, I don't understand the 30% | 14:23 |
| de-facto | https://www.ecdc.europa.eu/en/covid-19/high-risk-groups | 14:23 |
| de-facto | https://www.thelancet.com/journals/langlo/article/PIIS2214-109X(20)30264-3/fulltext | 14:25 |
| de-facto | .title | 14:25 |
| Brainstorm | de-facto: From www.thelancet.com: Global, regional, and national estimates of the population at increased risk of severe COVID-19 due to underlying health conditions in 2020: a modelling study - The Lancet Global Health | 14:25 |
| ubLIX[m] | a well established covid infection imposes a burden on the functional reserve seemingly of every organ system. with increasing age, functional reserve decreases. it is inevitable and may i say unremarkable that such a burden as covid should appear most prominently in those most diminished. at first. | 14:28 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | https://experience.arcgis.com/experience/478220a4c454480e823b17327b2bf1d4/page/page_1/ | 14:28 |
| de-facto | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_median_age | 14:29 |
| ubLIX[m] | a saying, adjusted to suit: "What doesn't kill you.. generally makes you weaker." | 14:29 |
| de-facto | .title https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s10654-020-00698-1 | 14:30 |
| Brainstorm | de-facto: From link.springer.com: Assessing the age specificity of infection fatality rates for COVID-19: systematic review, meta-analysis, and public policy implications | SpringerLink | 14:30 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | rightmost tab >>Todesfälle Altersgruppe/100.000 EW in der Gruppe<< in above only shows the *immediate* fatalities and not the numerous long term damage and resulting late fatalities | 14:31 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | and honestly, I wouldn't want to suffer any of the long term effects even if I had no risk of dying from corona at all | 14:32 |
| de-facto | productivity severely is impacted by longterm covid effects, hence also economy | 14:32 |
| de-facto | like peoples mental capacity | 14:33 |
| de-facto | hopefully it wont last too long and people just need some more time to recover | 14:33 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | >>BUT BUT... *MY* constitutional rights!!1!!<< The F... | 14:34 |
| de-facto | because official "recoveries" more appropriately would be named "COVID without fatal outcome" | 14:34 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ^^^ | 14:34 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | without *immediate* fatal outcome... | 14:35 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I'm _not_ "older than average life expectance" and yet even if I had no additional health issues (alas I do though) I'd still have a chance of 0.1% to die from covid. I think MY constitutional rights well justify YOU adhere to some precautional measures to reduce the risk that YOU *KILL* ME | 14:42 |
| de-facto | well yeah but i dont think longterm COVID effects are lethal, at least we dont have any evidence of that so far. | 14:42 |
| de-facto | in reply to "without *immediate* fatal outcome" | 14:43 |
| de-facto | yeah i agree the individual freedom ends exactly where it begins to impact those of others (especially their health and physical well being) | 14:43 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | oh, we do. Recently there been a report of a iirc 20yo boy recovering fine from covid, a few months later dropped dead during playing football - heart damage by corona | 14:44 |
| de-facto | and that is the case in a pandemic, people not respecting that cant be part of a society | 14:44 |
| de-facto | unfortunately there is nowhere to go for such people, hence they have to stick to a behavior that prevents risk to others in society | 14:45 |
| de-facto | oh DocScrutinizer05 you are correct there are those longterm Myocarditis issues indeed, almost forgot about those | 14:46 |
| de-facto | btw DocScrutinizer05 should we start downloading the daily vaccination stats from RKI to archive those and make a graph out of those? | 14:54 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | pondered it. Not sure yet if it's so interesting | 14:54 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | b ut probably we should | 14:55 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | sidenote: yeterday 60k total, today 130k | 14:55 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | seems to ramp up slowly | 14:55 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | about time | 14:55 |
| de-facto | yeah i think it would be interesting to have graphs for that | 14:56 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | seems orthogonal to my existing statistics, so probably a completely unrelated new chart | 14:57 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | incl new data source? | 14:57 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | do you already have spotted a source? | 14:58 |
| de-facto | yes | 15:00 |
| de-facto | https://www.rki.de/DE/Content/InfAZ/N/Neuartiges_Coronavirus/Daten/Impfquotenmonitoring.xlsx?__blob=publicationFile | 15:00 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ta | 15:00 |
| de-facto | https://github.com/dilshod/xlsx2csv/blob/master/xlsx2csv.py | 15:01 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | WAAAH XLS | 15:01 |
| de-facto | the XLSX is linked from https://www.rki.de/DE/Content/InfAZ/N/Neuartiges_Coronavirus/Daten/Impfquoten-Tab.html | 15:01 |
| de-facto | but can be converted with above tool | 15:01 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | well, you know I still do my charts with this unbearable LO ;-P so XLS is maybe the genuine format for me, particularly with so few records in the dataset | 15:03 |
| de-facto | xlsx2csv --sheetname "$(date --date="-1 day" +%d.%m.%y)" Impfquotenmonitoring-31.12.20-1609416775.xlsx | sed -E 's/,/\t/g;/Gesamt/q' | 15:03 |
| de-facto | for example | 15:03 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | :-D thanks | 15:03 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | aaaah damn, it's a snapshot, to time series | 15:04 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | s/to/no/ | 15:04 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | so finally about time to start a local RDBMS holding that shit | 15:05 |
| de-facto | yeah why not just archive the downloads like wget -qO "Impfquotenmonitoring-$(date +%d.%m.%y)-$(date +%s)" "https://www.rki.de/DE/Content/InfAZ/N/Neuartiges_Coronavirus/Daten/Impfquotenmonitoring.xlsx?__blob=publicationFile" | 15:05 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | or... simply concatenate csv to one large file? | 15:05 |
| de-facto | i would not do that, they probably will change their format and then you are screwed | 15:06 |
| de-facto | if you download to an archive with date you always can recover | 15:06 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | yeah, sure. valid point, but... regardless of it being a valid point, I want to do a chart time series and not process every XLS every tay again, this would turn into another exponential pest of workload ;-D | 15:10 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | s/tay/day/ | 15:10 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | so "archive, process and aggregate" it is | 15:11 |
| de-facto | yup | 15:11 |
| Brainstorm | New from BMJ Open: Remote monitoring of marginalised populations affected by COVID-19: a retrospective review: Objectives The COVID-19 outbreak in Singapore has largely centred around migrant worker dormitories, comprising over 90% of all cases in the country. Dormitories are home to a culturally and linguistically distinct, low-income population, [... want %more?] → https://is.gd/2AKKuN | 15:19 |
| de-facto | DocScrutinizer05, ts="$(date +%s)"; now="$(date +%d.%m.%y)"; prev="$(date --date="-1 day" +%d.%m.%y)"; wget -qO "Impfquotenmonitoring-${now}-${ts}.xlsx" "https://www.rki.de/DE/Content/InfAZ/N/Neuartiges_Coronavirus/Daten/Impfquotenmonitoring.xlsx?__blob=publicationFile" ; xlsx2csv --sheetname "${prev}" "Impfquotenmonitoring-${now}-${ts}.xlsx" | sed -E 's/,/\t/g;/Gesamt/q' | tee "Impfquotenmonitoring-${now}-${ts}.tsv" | 15:20 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | kate | 15:21 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | damn | 15:22 |
| de-facto | needs xlsx2csv to be installed from packet manager | 15:22 |
| de-facto | (a Debian package) | 15:22 |
| de-facto | also could be done with LO though | 15:22 |
| de-facto | unoconv | 15:24 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | aaaaaargh | 15:26 |
| de-facto | ?? | 15:26 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | HE SAID UNO | 15:26 |
| de-facto | lol | 15:26 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | >>Debian package<< hmmmm | 15:27 |
| de-facto | SuSE? | 15:32 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | zypper se xlsx2csv #; No matching items found. | 15:34 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | yeah leap15 | 15:35 |
| de-facto | hmm no idea you are the LO expert :P | 15:41 |
| de-facto | actually i would wait a few days until their upstream stabilized format, not sure if they let it stay liket his | 15:42 |
| de-facto | hence my intend to archive so there always is a possibility to reconstruct previous dates | 15:42 |
| mobidrop | DocScrutinizer05, "I'd still have a chance of 0.1% to die from covid. I think MY constitutional rights well justify YOU adhere to some precautional measures to reduce the risk that YOU *KILL* ME" It's authoritarian to tell others how to live their life / take their rights away for your own safety | 15:49 |
| mobidrop | for example second hand smoking kills, but we don't ban all cigarettes either | 15:52 |
| mobidrop | it's wrong to shift the risks on the other person to justify tyrannical measures | 15:53 |
| mobidrop | we should be free to take our personal risks, risk of death is part of life; we can't all stay safe 100% of the time | 15:57 |
| mobidrop | we have not defeated old age, illness, and death | 15:57 |
| de-facto | how about my freedom to experiment with dangerous radioactive substances? how about me running by own S4 biosecurity lab? | 15:57 |
| CoronaBot | 04/r/coronavirus: Hospital worker fired for deliberately leaving hundreds of COVID vaccine doses out of refrigerator (10456 votes) | https://www.cbsnews.com/news/covid-vaccine-aurora-medical-center-grafton-wisconsin-hospital-worker-fired/ | https://redd.it/knoajc | 15:58 |
| mobidrop | as long as it's done in a place where other people are not unknowingly put at risk | 15:58 |
| de-facto | if your presence is a risk to me, my demand to you to stop that activity that is a health risk to you outways your individual freedom. | 15:58 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | lol! >>we don't ban all cigarettes either<< AHA! thought you live in USA, no? AFAIK there cigarettes ARE banned in all public buildings and restaurants | 15:58 |
| de-facto | simple as that. | 15:58 |
| mobidrop | if presence of people is a risk to you, you should remove yourself from that area | 15:59 |
| de-facto | no i should remove those people that are a risk to me | 15:59 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | and honestly, when you think you may pass by me coughing into my face sharing air to breathe with me and gibve me corona, then why should I not be allowed to shoot you before you get near me? | 16:00 |
| de-facto | how about my freedom to shoot someone into the face? what if my aiming is only lethal in 0.1% of cases? | 16:00 |
| mobidrop | "look at this mf just standing there breathing, imma shoot him" - American haha | 16:00 |
| mobidrop | I believe intent matters | 16:01 |
| mobidrop | no one breathes intending to harm others | 16:01 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | you purposefully play ignorant? I said >>YOU *pass by* ME<< NOT >you're standing there and I pass by<< | 16:01 |
| de-facto | so if you know that you risk others by your behavior, even threaten their life and intentionally ignore measures effective to prevent that, what does that tell about your attitude then? | 16:01 |
| mobidrop | if I'm in a public area and you're present at that location you consent to being in an area where other people could be present | 16:02 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I don't give a fuck about your intentions, I judge you by your deeds | 16:02 |
| mobidrop | if the presence of other people is very dangerous to you, why are you present in that area? | 16:02 |
| mobidrop | I don't ignore measures, I wear a mask and keep distance where possible | 16:03 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | if you're so stupid to ask this question, so why are you around? | 16:03 |
| mobidrop | because you don't want me to go to any public area in any social situation | 16:03 |
| mobidrop | this is authoritarian | 16:04 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | huh? | 16:04 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | this is BS you just made up | 16:04 |
| de-facto | ok i dont want to imply you did not stick to measures, i only wanted to demonstrate the irrationality of such arguments, if a specific behavior threatens the health of others they have the right to demand that this behavior stops | 16:04 |
| de-facto | there is no right such that ensuring the "freedom to walk over dead bodies" in a society | 16:05 |
| mobidrop | well if "breathing" and "walking around" are life threatening behaviors for you, maybe it's a bit extreme to expect all the people to not do that | 16:05 |
| mobidrop | I look at this disease as a link of cause-effect relations, this disease only kills when a small minority of people gets infected, and they should be protected | 16:06 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Germany: +31859 cases (now 1.7 million), +1098 deaths (now 33433) since 23 hours ago | 16:06 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | again, you play ignorant on purpose, or is it you can't help it? we're talking abpout wearing a mask, not about either you or me staying at home | 16:06 |
| mobidrop | I thought we were talking about freedom of movement | 16:07 |
| de-facto | in times of a lockdown contact rates have to be minimized and if a few people think they dont have to participate its very asocial behavior to all those that carry the burden of working together to bring down the public threat that affects everyone: infection by a potentially deadly pathogen | 16:07 |
| de-facto | it even could be seen as sabotage to society | 16:07 |
| mobidrop | well I severely diminished my contact rate in the hopes that this all would be over eventually, but it's looking like that won't happen | 16:08 |
| de-facto | same here, and probably in most other places too, so thanks to those that did not participate incidence still is above what it could be | 16:08 |
| de-facto | i am absolutely sure i could not have infected anyone since 20th of Dec because i did not had any contact | 16:09 |
| mobidrop | and this situation might be exacerbated by a minority of non-compliant people, or our current measures don't do enough | 16:09 |
| mobidrop | to shift the blame on non compliant people could cause hatred towards a minority and combine this with totalitarianism and we have a dangerous mix | 16:09 |
| de-facto | i do agree this is a problematic situation, hence we should do everything for increasing trust and cohesion | 16:10 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | de-facto: I have to go back to my initial statement, it's futile and I made the mistake to even get involved. Let me know if this resullts in anything else than "we agree to disagree and nothing will change", or worse | 16:13 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | >><mobidrop> to be free is also to be free to go out and get ill<< is really all I need to hear | 16:17 |
| IndoAnon | de-facto: NAP is golden | 16:21 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | NAP? | 16:32 |
| Brainstorm | New from Medical Xpress: Some 50 countries start Covid-19 vaccinations: Some 50 countries around the world have already started vaccinating their people against COVID-19, barely a year after the first alert by China signalled the start of the epidemic. → https://is.gd/FUUGNn | 16:34 |
| mobidrop | Brave new world | 16:51 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Atlantic: America Has Not Fixed Its Deadliest Pandemic Errors: As the pandemic enters its second year, the coronavirus has remade everyday life in the United States. More than 19 million Americans have been diagnosed with COVID-19 since March, and at least 330,000 Americans have died of it, according to the COVID Tracking Project at The [... want %more?] → https://is.gd/FklrDc | 16:59 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/Coronavirus: New Year 2021 - A Hope Thread: This year has been a crazy year - Kobe Bryant, Alex Trebek, and Ruth Bader Ginsburg died, Australia was on fire, and of course, the world got hit with a coronavirus pandemic. → https://is.gd/BFuR9w | 17:11 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Netherlands: +9631 cases (now 797519), +109 deaths (now 11427) since 22 hours ago — Canada: +7137 cases (now 575853), +103 deaths (now 15508) since 23 hours ago | 17:27 |
| Brainstorm | New from Medical Xpress: Allergists offer reassurance regarding potential allergic reactions to COVID-19 vaccines: Reports of possible allergic reactions to the COVID-19 vaccines produced by Pfizer-BioNTech and Moderna, both recently approved for emergency use by the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA), have raised public concern. A team of experts [... want %more?] → https://is.gd/FwTsaW | 17:36 |
| CoronaBot | 04/r/covid19: Microvascular Injury in the Brains of Patients with Covid-19 (83 votes) | https://www.nejm.org/doi/10.1056/NEJMc2033369 | https://redd.it/knrj17 | 17:46 |
| Brainstorm | New from BBC Health: Covid: Doctors call for rapid rollout of vaccines: But there are fears bottlenecks in the system may hamper how fast NHS can deliver vaccines. → https://is.gd/UIBt7v | 17:49 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for United Kingdom: +17420 cases (now 2.5 million), +304 deaths (now 72906) since 10 hours ago | 17:52 |
| Jigsy | %cases UK | 18:23 |
| Brainstorm | Jigsy: In United Kingdom, there have been 2.5 million confirmed cases (3.7% of the population) and 72906 deaths (3.0% of cases) as of 30 minutes ago. 54.9 million tests were performed (4.5% positive). See https://offloop.net/covid19/?default=United%20Kingdom for time series data. | 18:23 |
| Spec | LjL: that's why you gotta only drink tea | 18:31 |
| Brainstorm | New from WebMD: Precautions Important With New Coronavirus Variant: Doctors on the pandemic's front line say people shouldn't panic, but should definitely adhere even more closely to proven infection control measures, like mask wearing and social distancing. → https://is.gd/idp7bq | 18:38 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Lebanon: +3507 cases (now 181503), +12 deaths (now 1468) since 23 hours ago — Italy: +23477 cases (now 2.1 million), +555 deaths (now 74159) since a day ago — Switzerland: +4391 cases (now 452296) since 17 hours ago — Sierra Leone: +28 cases (now 2611) since 17 hours ago | 18:41 |
| Brainstorm | New from BMJ Open: Measuring the Outcomes of Maternal COVID-19-related Prenatal Exposure (MOM-COPE): study protocol for a multicentric longitudinal project: Introduction COVID-19 is a highly infectious respiratory disease that rapidly emerged as an unprecedented epidemic in Europe, with a primary hotspot in Northern Italy during the first months of [... want %more?] → https://is.gd/d1Aytf | 18:50 |
| de-facto | Spec, they wrote another paper on preprint also in Dec | 19:08 |
| de-facto | .title https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.12.04.412098v1 | 19:08 |
| Brainstorm | de-facto: From www.biorxiv.org: Significant inactivation of SARS-CoV-2 by a green tea catechin, a catechin-derivative and galloylated theaflavins in vitro | bioRxiv | 19:08 |
| de-facto | hence their continuation | 19:08 |
| de-facto | .title https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.12.28.424533v1 | 19:08 |
| Brainstorm | de-facto: From www.biorxiv.org: Rapid inactivation in vitro of SARS-CoV-2 in saliva by black tea and green tea | bioRxiv | 19:08 |
| Spec | phew | 19:08 |
| Spec | you worried me that it was green-tea-only | 19:09 |
| de-facto | black tea seems to be even more effective though (according to them) | 19:10 |
| Spec | de-facto: black tea is also better for your soul. source: trust me | 19:10 |
| de-facto | yet note its in vitro (in the lab) | 19:10 |
| de-facto | hehe, i like green a bit more than black, yet black also is yummy :P | 19:11 |
| de-facto | i always have a pot on my desk, i never remove the leafs but rather add more hot water | 19:13 |
| iz | do you drink black tea w/ milk and sugar or just plain? | 19:19 |
| euod[m] | who on earth puts sugar in tea. | 19:20 |
| iz | when i drink black tea, i almost always put in milk & sugar to make milk tea.. but green tea or like jasmine or other asian teas, i just drink plain of course | 19:22 |
| de-facto | afaik they tested without sugar or milk | 19:28 |
| de-facto | in the lab (in vitro) and on preprint server, so take that with a "grain of salt" (i.e. its not confirmed by peer review or such) | 19:28 |
| de-facto | i like my tea plain, without anything | 19:29 |
| Spec | i like my tea without salt | 19:30 |
| de-facto | lol :P | 19:30 |
| de-facto | actually me too, even bought a water deionizer for making my tea | 19:31 |
| blkshp | Salt goes in hot chocolate | 19:31 |
| de-facto | because we have extremely chalky water here, making tea from that always results in those monomolecular "rainbow" films on its surface and also it just does not taste as good as with deionized water | 19:32 |
| de-facto | oh btw hot chocolate also contains loads of catechins, so maybe we will see papers about those too? | 19:35 |
| de-facto | %papers cocoa | 19:36 |
| Brainstorm | de-facto, 3 papers: Effectiveness of COCOA, a COVID-19 contact notification application, in Japan by Junko Kurita et al, made available as preprint on 2020-07-14 at http://medrxiv.org/cgi/content/short/2020.07.11.20151597 [... want %more?] | 19:36 |
| de-facto | ah there | 19:36 |
| de-facto | %papers EGCG | 19:37 |
| Brainstorm | de-facto, 4 papers: Identification of Dietary Molecules as Therapeutic Agents to Combat COVID-19 Using Molecular Docking Studies by Mohammad Faheem Khan et al, made available as preprint on 2020-03-26 at [u'https://doi.org/10.21203/rs.3.rs-19560/v1', u'https://www.researchsquare.com/article/rs-19560/v1.pdf'] [... want %more?] | 19:37 |
| de-facto | %papers TFDG | 19:37 |
| Brainstorm | de-facto, Rapid inactivation in vitro of SARS-CoV-2 in saliva by black tea and green tea by Eriko Ohgitani et al, made available as preprint on 2020-12-28 at https://biorxiv.org/cgi/content/short/2020.12.28.424533 | 19:37 |
| de-facto | %papers TSA | 19:37 |
| Brainstorm | de-facto, 2 papers: Benefits and Risks of Chloroquine and Hydroxychloroquine in The Treatment of Viral Diseases: A Meta-Analysis of Placebo Randomized Controlled Trials by Jing Wang et al, made available as preprint on 2020-04-18 at http://medrxiv.org/cgi/content/short/2020.04.13.20064295 [... want %more?] | 19:37 |
| de-facto | %papers Catechin | 19:37 |
| Brainstorm | de-facto, 8 papers: Catechin and Curcumin interact with corona (2019-nCoV/SARS-CoV2) viral S protein and ACE2 of human cell membrane: insights from Computational study and implication for intervention by Atala B. Jena et al, made available as preprint on 2020-04-08 at [u'https://doi.org/10.21203/rs.3.rs-22057/v1', u'https://www.researchsquare.com/article/rs-22057/v1.pdf'] [... want %more?] | 19:37 |
| de-facto | quite some... | 19:38 |
| de-facto | heh this paper search engine is really neat actually :) | 19:38 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews: worldnews: More than 120 residents infected after Santa visit followed by coronavirus outbreak in Belgium → https://is.gd/x9BZm7 | 19:40 |
| LjL | de-facto, shame it's limited to preprints, there are SOME published papers about COVID! maybe 12 or so :P | 19:40 |
| LjL | meanwhile, i think Italy is going back up :( | 19:41 |
| LjL | not that it was ever really under control, but it certainly went down after the regional lockdowns | 19:41 |
| de-facto | yeah well in Germany too, but i am still undecided if it may be due to reporting delay catching up, yet i do think incidence should already be much lower if "shutdown" worked as desired/expected/wished for | 19:43 |
| de-facto | i think we only can see it after first week of Jan or such | 19:43 |
| de-facto | but for my taste numbers are way too high | 19:43 |
| LjL | i am feeling very bad about what the variant will cause | 19:44 |
| de-facto | yeah does not look so good in UK neither in SA | 19:47 |
| de-facto | i wonder how it came to those? immuno-suppressed? excessive usage of antivirals that cause a mutation cascade (maybe Remdesivir, EIDD-2801, etc.)? its a bit strange that those variants contain so many mutations, way above the "normal" mutation rate, so it looks like they appeared under some sort of selection pressure, possibly together with some increased mutation rates due to some reason. but thats completely speculative | 19:51 |
| Jigsy | 2020 is/was a leap year, meaning we all had to suffer one extra day of 2020. | 19:54 |
| Jigsy | [18:47:55] <de-facto> yeah does not look so good in UK neither | 19:54 |
| Jigsy | The UK still isn't doing shit about the situation. | 19:54 |
| Jigsy | Schools go back next week or something as well. | 19:54 |
| de-facto | that sounds worrying, i head them debating about that here too | 19:55 |
| de-facto | i though areas around London are supposed to be in highest lockdown levels? | 19:55 |
| de-facto | like those with >400/100k or such | 19:56 |
| Jigsy | I don't live anywhere near London, so I don't know about that. | 19:56 |
| Jigsy | thankfully don't* | 19:56 |
| de-facto | maybe its not true, i just thought thats the reason many tried to travel away before such measures became mandatory | 19:56 |
| Jigsy | I heard people fled London sometime around the announcement. | 19:57 |
| Jigsy | 'cause people are assholes. | 19:57 |
| de-facto | at least UK makes some progress with vaccinations, so thats good i guess | 19:58 |
| de-facto | much faster than Germany for example | 19:58 |
| de-facto | and also UK got an impressive scientific surveillance program, screening for mutations and real prevalence | 19:59 |
| de-facto | i wish more countries would do it like that | 19:59 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Indian Express: World: China reports first case of new coronavirus variant – CDC publication → https://is.gd/d4MHOW | 20:04 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Spain: +9648 cases (now 1.9 million) since 20 hours ago — France: +22123 cases (now 2.6 million), +269 deaths (now 64591) since 22 hours ago — Netherlands: +9607 cases (now 797535) since 21 hours ago | 20:08 |
| LjL | de-facto, it's not just London in tier 4 though, it's pretty wide areas in the south-east afaik | 20:12 |
| LjL | it would be nicer if we had a bot telling us about the measures in each country! | 20:12 |
| LjL | if only we had found several places with an API for that... | 20:12 |
| LjL | oh wait, we have ;( | 20:12 |
| iz | actually a tiny bit of salt in coffee works also | 20:24 |
| Spec | de-facto: ah, my water is delicious already | 20:33 |
| Spec | de-facto: i use a filter that filters further, and remineralizes with magnesium | 20:34 |
| de-facto | oh that might be a good idea | 20:35 |
| Spec | it's what plants crave | 20:39 |
| Brainstorm | New from Science Daily: New virtual screening strategy identifies existing drug that inhibits COVID-19 virus: A novel computational drug screening strategy combined with lab experiments suggest that pralatrexate, a chemotherapy medication originally developed to treat lymphoma, could potentially be repurposed to treat COVID-19. → https://is.gd/kNLdde | 20:41 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for United Kingdom: +52243 cases (now 2.5 million), +910 deaths (now 73512) since 13 hours ago | 20:51 |
| Arsanerit | LjL: is fireworks legal today in Italy / your area? | 20:52 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews: worldnews: Doctors in England despair over disregard for Covid restrictions → https://is.gd/k9ggWB | 20:54 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Chad: +36 cases (now 2113) since 21 hours ago — Eswatini: +212 cases (now 9358), +21 deaths (now 205) since 22 hours ago — Switzerland: +51 deaths (now 7645) since 20 hours ago | 20:58 |
| de-facto | mpv http://stream03.uzic.ch:9010/ | 21:06 |
| LjL | Arsanerit, i don't know, they certainly at least discouraged them, but nobody ever gives a damn | 21:06 |
| Brainstorm | New from ProPublica: Officials Let Hawaii’s Waterfront Homeowners Damage Public Beaches Again and Again: by Sophie Cocke , Honolulu Star-Advertiser ProPublica is a nonprofit newsroom that investigates abuses of power. Sign up to receive our biggest stories as soon as they’re published. This story was co-published with the Honolulu Star-Advertiser, [... want %more?] → https://is.gd/0MGLpD | 21:18 |
| Brainstorm | New from BBC Health: Covid: 12-week vaccine gap defended by UK medical chiefs: The UK will now leave a 12-week gap between both parts of the Covid vaccination, rather than 21 days. → https://is.gd/zFQNuu | 21:31 |
| elchupacabra420[ | imagine vaccines work as intended but counts still raise... just 2021 things. | 21:55 |
| Brainstorm | New from Virological.org: Identification of a novel SARS-CoV-2 Spike 69-70 deletion lineage circulating in the United States: Brendan B. Larsen, Michael Worobey Department of Ecology and Evolutionary Biology, University of Arizona New mutations are continually emerging in SARS-CoV-2 that could impact viral phenotype. Genome sequencing of SARS-CoV-2 is [... want %more?] → https://is.gd/885D1U | 21:55 |
| elchupacabra420[ | Better luck next year! | 21:55 |
| Brainstorm | New from BBC Health: Covid: 12-week vaccine gap defended by UK medical chiefs: The UK will now leave a 12-week gap between both parts of the Covid vaccination, rather than 21 days. → https://is.gd/zFQNuu | 22:20 |
| gigasu_shida | thanks de-facto | 22:58 |
| Brainstorm | New from NPR: Amid Health Care Worker Shortage, LA Mayor Presses For Faster Vaccine Rollout: As the city's hospitals reach a breaking point, Mayor Eric Garcetti says Los Angeles needs more vaccine doses as soon as possible: "We can go as fast as you give us those vaccines." → https://is.gd/9rloP4 | 23:58 |
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