libera/##covid-19/ Sunday, 2021-09-26

de-factoi wonder if such research can lead to the design or artificial antigen to stimulate more robust vaccine induced immunity by lowering the escape probability by antigenic drift of pathogen epitopes00:03
nixonixyeah i had a look on that. anyone knows how the patent issues go with these monoclonal antibodies, found from convalescent plasma00:08
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de-factoits not only about those monoclonals, its about evasive selection, something that will be our enemy as long as COVID is a thing00:12
nixonix"I tried in the 1990s to get a patent for an antibody inhibiting any protease. No one had done it, no one had filed; there were no examples where an antibody could trap a protease in its active state versus an inactive state. It was a big idea, right? The examiner came back and said, “No. Too broad.” And in the end they gave me any antibody00:17
nixonixthat would inhibit this particular protease. That was a disappointment00:17
nixonixso maybe all the epitopes of sars2 are already under patent of big pharmas...00:18
nixonixit seems its not that bad, but not good either:00:19
nixonix"But now, reading this Amgen v. Sanofi case, I wouldn’t even get that. They would only give me that particular antibody inhibiting that particular protease, just like PCSK9. That’s all you’re getting: just one particular antibody. So if someone gets another antibody with a different sequence, it’s not protected00:19
nixonix"I find it very disappointing that this is the direction patents are going with antibodies, because it’s slicing the salami so thin that you can’t get a meal off of it. So that’s a disappointment.00:26
nixonixcry me a rive00:26
nixonixr00:26
nixonixsome of them have modified Fc ends to improve effector functions like for cytotoxic immune cells. not sure how relevant they are with sars2, though. i think the common view is currently, that not very relevant00:29
nixonix.title https://twitter.com/fitterhappierAJ/status/144164988666404454400:33
Brainstormnixonix: From twitter.com: Anthony J Leonardi, PhD, MS (@fitterhappierAJ): "any immunologist worth their salt will understand cov2 will select out those with inborn interferon errors, and select for other traits." | nitter00:33
nixonix.title https://twitter.com/fitterhappierAJ/status/144147711834135347400:35
Brainstormnixonix: From twitter.com: Anthony J Leonardi, PhD, MS (@fitterhappierAJ): "many immunologists are too afraid to speak out bc of the censorship and fear bad news brings." | 42l - nitter00:35
nixonixbrainström, could you invite leonardi to this thread (or anybody who has twitter acc). id like to hear his take on the expectations of the authors: https://twitter.com/EricTopol/status/144183536118170010100:42
nixonixthose views of immunologists are so rare and hard to find. i know quite a few immunologists' twitter accounts, but mostly they dont comment too much about immunopathology or future prospects of sars200:45
BrainstormNew from Reddit (test): Covid2019: How the current COVID-19 surge is affecting medical care for children in North Idaho: Healthcare workers in Moscow said they are seeing nearly daily COVID-19 outbreaks in daycare and school settings. → https://is.gd/u16G1z00:49
nixonixone way to look for endemic rona (simplifying for things like evolution of both rona and vaxes): vax on average reduces bad outcomes for like 80% (more when its recent, and less when its not - and more for deaths, but possibly less for some permanent damages)01:04
nixonixso its probably around 5 breakthroughs, and youll have similar bad outcomes than unvaxed from 1 infection. something like that01:05
nixonixexp that those are more likely to happen during the weeks when it has waned quite a bit, and you wait for the next dose01:06
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jbwncsterwhy can't people just wear a mask while walking in a group right behind me ugh01:38
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sdfgsdfgare we going to have another wave :(02:20
sdfgsdfgI hope not02:20
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de-facto.title https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.06.10.21258647v2.full-text02:33
Brainstormde-facto: From www.medrxiv.org: Seasonal variation in SARS-CoV-2 transmission in temperate climates | medRxiv02:33
de-facto"We find strong seasonal patterns, consistent with a reduction in the time-variable Rt of 42.1% (95% CI: 24.7% – 53.4%) from the peak of winter to the peak of summer."02:36
de-factohence to avoid another wave we need to require Rt(winter) ~ 1.421 Rt(summer) < 1 meaning we must have had achieved Rt(summer) < 1.421 with same variant and vaccinations etc02:39
nixonixbossche says there will be HUGE wave in israel02:48
nixonix.title https://twitter.com/KatherineEban/status/1400403612325515266  havent read the article, just saw the twitter thread linked. maybe interesting02:49
Brainstormnixonix: From twitter.com: Katherine Eban (@KatherineEban): "BREAKING: my months-long @VanityFair investigation on #COVID19 origins is live. Interviews w/ over 40 people, review of hundreds of pgs. of U.S. gov't docs. incl. [...]02:49
nixonix.title https://twitter.com/DavidLWindt/status/144185727960783667702:50
Brainstormnixonix: From twitter.com: David Windt (@DavidLWindt): "13) @GVDBossche: "What I'm expecting in Israel to see is that this movement of waves will come down, will calm down, you will end up with this high plateau, a little bit [...]02:50
de-factothe waves will continue until the pathogen is not tolerated to circulate anymore02:51
de-factomaybe in a few years people will start to realize that02:51
nixonixyeah. while bossche isnt totally wrong about those vaccine evading variants (the previous tweets in the thread), these current variants developed before vaccines, and the same is possible vax or not, and vaccines have and will save lots of life and health02:52
nixonixthey just need to be re-dosed frequently enough. both for saving health, and reducing chances for new immune evasion variants. too waned vax is a leaky vax02:53
nixonixand better vaccines will come. its just hard even getting meager 10-20M financing anymore, when the market is stuck from big pharma vaxes, trials are harder and harder to execute, fight for production capacity etc. even great looking novavax which was just a bit late02:56
de-factovaccines will lower the risk of severe progressions by maybe an order of magnitude, but they wont stop the pandemic, its too late for that02:57
de-factomaybe at the begin with more homogenous genome and much less reproduction number there was such a window of opportunity02:58
de-factobut since we did not even achieve to vaccinate the richest countries, how can we expect to expand that to the whole world?02:59
nixonixit was impossible task to give 90% of worlds population couple of doses within the timescale their protection lasts. and many will refuse anyway02:59
de-factoi would argue that it was not impossible, it was just not nearly tried hard enough03:00
de-factohttps://www.statnews.com/2021/09/20/covid-19-set-to-overtake-1918-spanish-flu-as-deadliest-disease-in-american-history/03:02
de-facto.title03:02
Brainstormde-facto: From www.statnews.com: Covid overtakes 1918 Spanish flu as deadliest disease in U.S. history03:02
nixonixyeah maybe. just build new plants to produce the most effective vaxes. but some of them dont want western vaxes, china wants to use their own, and whats those depending on their investmens eg in africa, where they havent been too willing to vax anyway, lots of doses expiring when only few wants them03:03
nixonix*wants those03:03
de-facto1700 fatal outcomes from COVID in USA every day, that is one every 50s03:04
nixonix.title https://twitter.com/DrEricDing/status/144137956783955968203:05
Brainstormnixonix: From twitter.com: Eric Feigl-Ding (@DrEricDing): "8) let’s reframe kids deaths this way - pediatric cancers are the leading cause of death in the US past infancy. #COVID19 deaths in kids is now on par with annual [...]03:05
nixonixwhile theres no guarantee that novavax would be more lasting (theres a good chance, imo) than these current mrna vaxes, lots of the world use inferior chinese waxes - which are just bad vs delta - when they could use novavax instead right now03:08
de-factoas demand still is not nearly satisfied by supply the vaccine that is offered first is the best03:10
nixonixprobably hundreds of vax projects still alive (and hundreds died in lack of financing, most likely), but not many of them will have a chance to even try to go through trials. and those few that will, are prob not the most promising looking, but those that can make a deal with some big pharmas03:11
nixonixindia has large pharma industry, but production problems with vaxes. south korea has pretty large too, but where are the vaxes they have planned to produce there03:12
nixonixdamn plastic bags, i wonder if novavax has got them now03:13
de-factothere probably is only one way to get rid of the problem: wartime grade effort without compromises03:14
nixonixthey have decided that it goes pharma business as usual03:14
de-factoif we want that? obviously until now we decided against that approach, hence for dealing with ongoing waves of COVID03:14
de-factopharma will not end the virus from spreading, it will only prevent deaths from infections to a certain degree03:16
nixonixim vax once or twice a year, and oral or nasal every couple of months. because not enough doses yet available, and not everybody will take them anyway, it wont disappear, but it wouldnt affect that much anymore, exp those unvaxed03:18
nixonixi dont believe in bossche's vision of completely immune evading variants, or even close. it probably wont evolve to some airborne hiv03:20
nixonix"chinese flying aids", as they used to say03:20
de-factoultimately it means that humanity is not fit for globalization as we proved to be unable to deal with a relatively simple pathogen03:20
de-factomaybe that means the great filter is still in front of us and we are just another insignificant species vanishing in the fermi paradox03:22
de-factoi would have wished for a much much stricter zero-covid approach worldwide, we could have learned so much from that03:23
nixonixyeah, i think there should be more border control for viruses. these what were last winter, prevented flu to spread much. some day they will check it easily from breath. sure first they will miss those who are in early phase, but anyways03:24
trbpde-facto: not having globalization would not hinder research?03:25
nixonixfermi paradox, i think the its nuclear weapons, that makes every technological culture that could communicate on radio waves very short living03:25
de-factooh i am not saying we could avoid globalization, i am saying we should use the opportunity to learn from COVID how to deal with biosecurity in a globalized world to prevent a more deadly pathogen from creating the next pandemic03:26
trbpde-facto: pandemics will come and go, such as far human mankind did survive, even with less medical knowledge03:27
de-factohumanity never was as globalized as it is right now03:28
nixonixvaccine production capacity is the key. we had these mrna vaxes in a few days after chinese sent the sequence03:28
trbpand besides 0 covid approach would had also end in less scientific material for nice suiting statistics, would it have not?03:28
de-factothis is a first time situation that a pathogen can spread over the whole globe in days03:29
nixonixluckily this virus wasnt that hard to develop somewhat working vaccines, unlike some others03:29
de-factotrbp, well zero-covid strategy would have required to exactly evaluate and cut the transmission path of this respiratory virus (hence equip us with both, knowledge and ability to do that to any other such pathogen)03:30
nixonixbut while its said that mutation rate of sars2 is only half of flu, which is half of hiv, its not actually true anymore. it picked up speed year ago03:31
nixonix.title https://twitter.com/DrEricDing/status/144137956783955968203:31
Brainstormnixonix: From twitter.com: Eric Feigl-Ding (@DrEricDing): "8) let’s reframe kids deaths this way - pediatric cancers are the leading cause of death in the US past infancy. #COVID19 deaths in kids is now on par with annual [...]03:31
de-factosure we learn a lot about viral evolution with ongoing waves of new variants of COVID03:31
de-factobut not so much about how to contain those by ending transmission paths in the most efficient way if that is not the declared goal of the approach03:32
de-factoi bet most people that got COVID cant exactly tell where they got infected03:32
de-factohence, that would be the first starting point to develop methods to find that out03:33
de-factoand obviously traveling via plane still spreads the variants in days to weeks all over the world03:34
nixonixare there some countries anymore who want to contain it? i think everybody want to let it rip when they reach some vaccine coverage (among adults or over 12 yo)03:34
de-factothat is the next thing, we have the nagging suspicion its the travelers for two years by now and we still dont even have an idea how to prevent that03:35
de-factoi always was (and i always will be) for strictest zero-covid approach without compromises03:36
de-factobut oh well, that is nothing but wishful thinking03:36
nixonixour hc officials didnt even try to stop delta. they removed the travel restrictions in the beginning of june. 15 days and cases went up again03:36
de-factoyeah 2021 pretty much was a repetition of 202003:37
trbpdoes that strictful contain the fastest 0 infection as fast approachable as possible03:37
trbpso full lockdown again, for lets say 6 weeks and who still lives lives rest has 0 infection after put neatly in their body bags?03:38
nixonix.title https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/07/01/thousands-czechs-hold-farewell-party-pandemic-prague-country/ we should have parties like this again03:38
Brainstormnixonix: From www.telegraph.co.uk: Thousands of Czechs hold 'farewell party' for pandemic in Prague as country registers spike in cases03:38
de-factoat first it would contain aquiring the knowledge to understand the transmission dynamics in a way that allows for the most efficient approach to cut transmission paths03:38
trbpde-facto: while you do this all you are still facing the rising numbers of infection...03:39
BrainstormNew from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: New Zealand PM Jacinda Ardern Considers No Jab, No Entry Policy → https://is.gd/MGQBfw03:39
nixonixwhens nz going to let it rip?03:40
de-factoi did not say lockdown, i said ending the infection chains (on purpose generic enough to include all possible approaches emerging from a more targeted understanding towards transmission dynamics)03:40
trbpde-facto: infection chain is broken most effectively by?03:41
trbpis using mask >> lockdown?03:41
trbpor lockdown >> using mask?03:41
de-factojust as one example: if we would ramp up testing strategy *massively* and give everyone a test at least twice a week we would possibly be able to isolate enough infected that the pathogen would strictly stay at Rt<<103:41
trbpde-facto: we could also end up in some shady companies and people ending up seeing business in it03:42
de-factowe would learn where it hides and build up an infrastructure that easily also could cover other pathogens03:42
trbpand financial ministers who get nightmares about how to put that into the households of their national budget03:43
trbpde-facto: so pathogens are clever? they play hide and seek?03:43
de-factotechnically that is trivial, e.g. PCR already covers primers for other pathogens that can be tested in parallel, with same sample03:43
trbpsure but how much does a pcr cost?03:43
de-factolol nope, pathogens are not clever, but we are too dump to find their transmission paths because they simply use every opportunity they got to do one thing: reproduce03:44
trbpand are all worldwide equipped and trained enough to make that dream possible?03:44
nixonixhere its over 100e, but can be way more depending on logistics etc in smaller townds (evern 500, i just read)03:44
nixonixthe cost for health institutes03:45
de-factoif its ramped up enough a PCR test costs much much less than what is charged for it today03:45
trbpor do we again need hordes of hardware and trained personel for it?03:45
de-factono that would not scale03:45
de-factoit must be done on a decentralized way not depending on human workers03:45
nixonixmy solution for keeping cases low is tight borders, then trace the cases down, using regional bar closures and what is needed to get them down03:45
nixonixkeep it down untill kids have been vaxed03:46
trbpis the waste of a mask more neglectable than the waste of plastic tracers used for all that pcr?03:46
de-factoit should be based only on machines (that can be produced in an efficient way), should work without human intervention and must consume as few consumables as possible (to avoid the supply and waste problems)03:46
trbpwhat is worse for worlds pollutioning?03:46
nixonixwhile that takes a few months, its only good, because more information from other countries experiences, long covid, permanent brain and organ damages - and even 2nd gen vaccines during that time03:46
de-factoi am pretty sure that technically that is possible, probably even trivial03:46
nixonixthen if everything looks good enough, let it rip maybe...03:47
trbpde-facto: this efficent way of production is best done in vegan workshops and not globalized world economics i guess ;)03:47
nixonixim pretty sure some asian countries plan to do that03:47
de-factoi am serious, you are not, alright.03:47
nixonixbut maybe nobody in europe. nz perhaps, lets see03:47
trbpde-facto: i am dead serious03:47
trbpthings not always as easy as seems03:48
de-factovegan workshops and not globalized economics, lol come on.03:48
trbpok that one was exaggerated03:49
trbpmaybe a bit too much03:49
trbpbut you got the hint03:49
trbpthat is why you directly diverted to accuse me of beeing not argumentative and gone personal as blaming me for beeing not serious03:49
de-factoi did not say anything against global economy, in fact its nessecary. also the technological problems pretty much are solved i would assume, its only about scaling it in a compatible way03:50
nixonix.title https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.09.22.21263977v1?rss=1  reminder for turbo03:50
Brainstormnixonix: From www.medrxiv.org: COVID-19 mortality risk correlates inversely with vitamin D3 status, and a mortality rate close to zero could theoretically be achieved at 50 ng/ml 25(OH)D3: Results of a systematic review and meta- [...]03:50
de-factothats the same value that TurboTech said03:51
nixonixwhile the claim in the title is pretty wild - was mg/ml the lower or higher number? i remember the ratio was 2.499903:52
nixonixng/ml03:53
nixonixthats the lower. so that equals around 125 using the other unit. i think at equatorial they usually have around 120-20003:55
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ZdrytchX!cases australia08:04
ZdrytchX!help08:04
ZdrytchX.cases08:06
BrainstormZdrytchX: Sorry,  not found. Either there aren't cases, or it's under a different name.08:06
ZdrytchX.cases australia08:06
BrainstormZdrytchX: Australia has had 96972 confirmed cases (0.4% of all people) and 1231 deaths (1.3% of cases) as of 2 hours ago. 37.0 million tests were done (0.3% positive). 15.9 million were vaccinated (62.0%). +1220 cases since 22 hours ago. See https://offloop.net/covid19/?default=Australia08:06
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ZdrytchXwtf 1220? man shits going down in eastern australia08:06
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specingflu vaccine protects against covid? Interesting11:02
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BrainstormNew from COVID tweets: Anthony J Leonardi, PhD, MS (@fitterhappierAJ): If given the funding to do so (a white elephant) would you insert FCSs into novel coronaviruses? → https://is.gd/maT8Zh18:15
BrainstormNew from COVID tweets: Anthony J Leonardi, PhD, MS (@fitterhappierAJ): The question is important. Why?Has the opinion of the suitability of this kind of work changed after this pandemic? Why or why not? → https://is.gd/Vs8jfx18:26
BrainstormUpdates for Greenland: +12 cases (now 565), +1159 tests (now 73745) since 2 days ago18:39
BrainstormNew from Reddit (test): China_Flu: Unvaccinated are also refusing lifesaving antibody treatment - initial reports → https://is.gd/0UviQK19:19
BrainstormUpdates for Italy: +3099 cases (now 4.7 million), +44 deaths (now 130697) since 23 hours ago19:29
-Bridgestorm- ⭕ Lindol! Earthquake! 6.1 Mww tremor, registered by 4 agencies, with 14 reports, 14 early, occurred 20 minutes ago (17:12:07 UTC), with a gibbous moon, Talisay, Philippines (13.93, 120.54), ↓50 km likely felt 210 km away (in San Pascual, Bauan, San Pedro, Santa Rosa, Biñan…) by 20.8 million people (quakesearch.geonet.org.nz)19:32
BrainstormUpdates for Greece: +1100 cases (now 645969), +24 deaths (now 14679), +154045 tests (now 19.3 million) since a day ago — Jordan: +987 cases (now 819783), +11 deaths (now 10680), +26390 tests (now 10.0 million) since a day ago20:31
BrainstormNew from Reddit (test): CoronaVirus_2019_nCoV: Some Tri-Cities parents organizing rogue Homecoming dances to avoid COVID precautions: Dozens of Kamiakin High School parents are outraged over new rules for school dances, including showing a negative COVID test or proof of vaccination. → https://is.gd/4keZhS20:46
BrainstormNew from COVID tweets: Eric Topol (@EricTopol): South Korea's Delta outbreak. With a population of 51.3 million, limited to avg 7 deaths/day (Total population vaccination: 74% 1st dose, 45% 2-doses)Population-adjusted for US, fatalities would equal 45.Actual number of US deaths/day, 7-day avg = 2,045@OurWorldInData pic.twitter.com/ys8axBft8Z → https://is.gd/6wjdMl21:40
nixonix.title http://www.koreaherald.com/view.php?ud=2021091500107022:10
Brainstormnixonix: From www.koreaherald.com: Is Korea bending rules in vaccine sprint?22:10
nixonix"But then again, I don’t think there is data on how the six-week spacing may affect antibody response or adverse event reactions.”22:10
nixonixwell there is some data... but i guess hc officials make decisions without finding out22:11
nixonixsaw a tweet mentioning this, so i had to check if true (yup): "a survey of bats in southern Mexico reported 8 novel alphacoronaviruses and 4 novel betacoronaviruses, 1 with 96% similarity to MERS-CoV22:15
nixonix"in Saudi Arabia. Although the prevalence of CoVs was high (≈28% of fecal samples), MERS CoV was found in only 1 bat. A 3.5% MERS CoV infection rate (n = 29; 95% CI 0–20%) in T. perforatus bats is low compared with that for severe acute respiratory syndrome–like CoV in rhinolophid bats in China (10%–12.5%) but consistent with CoV prevalence22:17
nixonixamong bats in Mexico22:17
nixonixi wonder if they have sars2 nowdays. saudi, mexican or south-east asian bats. or camels22:19
nixonixyou ever wondered if llamas could catch mers?22:22
nixonixof course that has been contemplated before. and a thing like that must be tried too...22:23
nixonix"Here we report MERS-CoV transmission from experimentally infected llamas to naïve animals. Directly inoculated llamas shed virus for at least 6 days and could infect all in-contact naïve animals 4-5 days after exposure.22:24
nixonixyou can try all kinds of crazy shit, and see what happens...22:24
nixonix.title https://twitter.com/wolfgang_xl/status/144116809370786611922:45
Brainstormnixonix, the URL could not be loaded22:45
nixonix.title https://twitter.com/wolfgang_xl/status/144116809370786611922:45
Brainstormnixonix: From twitter.com: Wolfgang (@wolfgang_xl): "Crazy that the leaked EcoHealth DARPA application isn't getting more news coverage. A novel bat coronavirus with a pangolin spike and a human furin cleavage site is exactly [...]22:45
BrainstormNew from Reddit (test): nCoV: Jakarta Predicts Third Wave of COVID-19 to Hit in December 2021 | 27SEP21 → https://is.gd/u6obe822:45
nixonix.title https://old.reddit.com/r/COVID19/comments/pvpvpa/covid19_mortality_risk_correlates_inversely_with/  some discussion on that latest vit d study23:04
Brainstormnixonix: From old.reddit.com: COVID-19 mortality risk correlates inversely with vitamin D3 status, and a mortality rate close to zero could theoretically be achieved at 50 ng/ml 25(OH)D3: Results of a systematic review and meta- [...]23:04
nixonix"50 ng/ml is actually kind of challenging to maintain consistently. I’ve supplemented 5000 IU D3 daily for years and I’m not sure I’ve ever cracked 50 in my annual checks. I’m usually in the 40s. 10,000 IU per day is probably the best dose to maximize D3 levels23:04
LjLis that TurboTech? :P23:05
-RSSBot[LjLmatrix- Zotero / COVID links Group / Top-Level Items: COVID-19 mortality risk correlates inversely with vitamin D3 status, and a mortality rate close to zero could theoretically be achieved at 50 ng/ml 25(OH)D3: Results of a systematic review and meta-analysis ( https://www.zotero.org/groups/covid_links/items/5HW938VN )23:12
-RSSBot[LjLmatrix- Zotero / COVID links Group / Top-Level Items: COVID-19 mortality risk correlates inversely with vitamin D3 status, and a mortality rate close to zero could theoretically be achieved at 50 ng/ml 25(OH)D3: Results of a systematic review and meta-analysis ( https://www.zotero.org/groups/covid_links/items/P8IV7888 )23:12
nixonix"Hypercalcemia, defined as a serum calcium level above 2.75 mmol/liter (11 mg/dl), was observed at the highest dose of 95 μg (3,800 IU)/day, which is, therefore, the lowest-observed-adverse-effect level (LOAEL)23:14
nixonixbut was it a small, low-fat person, and a rare case? i guess i have to find out more some day23:15
nixonixk2 was mentioned. k2 mk-7 is supposedly the type thats efficient against possible hypercalcemia (i used to eat it, but ive been out for awhile)23:16
nixonix.title https://edition.cnn.com/2021/09/24/asia/turkmenistan-covid-free-nations-intl-hnk-dst/index.html23:21
Brainstormnixonix: From edition.cnn.com: Turkmenistan claims it hasn't had a single Covid-19 case. Activists say that's a lie - CNN23:21
dd_calling turkmen liarss, yikes!23:43
nixonix.title https://twitter.com/boulware_dr/status/144206920216527667323:57
Brainstormnixonix: From twitter.com: David Boulware, MD MPH (@boulware_dr): "One advantage of mRNA vaccines would be the ability to rapidly tweak the mRNA to the latest variant. This hasn't occurred. Why not? What's the FDA regulatory [...]23:57

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