| summonner | I listened to a doctor being interviewed about trial processes. He said that if 35 people died during a trial, there's perhaps a zero chance it will go to market. | 00:03 |
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| summonner | I'm concerned that people are still receiving injections when there's clearly a questionable result here. Am I missing something? | 00:03 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Bahrain: +59 cases (now 275862), +14907 tests (now 6.6 million) since 23 hours ago | 00:10 |
| summonner | Maybe I'm not making my point clearly. Here's an article about car parts: https://japantoday.com/category/business/2nd-driver-killed-by-air-bag-inflator-from-tennessee%27s-arc | 00:12 |
| summonner | It makes mention about another company, Takata, who makes airbags for cars | 00:13 |
| summonner | 19 people in the USA, and 28 people were killed worldwide by those airbags, and a recall was announced. Everyone I know has a car, so billions of people having cars, verses 47 deaths. | 00:15 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews: worldnews: Canadian CEO tests four-day work week for employees, says she won't go back → https://is.gd/MLpegi | 00:21 |
| LjL | <summonner> I'm sure you've all seen the graph? the number of deaths from covid vaccination is over 10 times greater than all the deaths from vaccinations previously? ← no, the number of deaths AFTER covid vaccination, reported voluntary to VAERS, without any specified timeframe. those are meaningless unless related to the expected number of deaths in the general population by someone statistically competent | 00:35 |
| LjL | this keeps being pushed and the way it's being pushed is just incorrect | 00:35 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Moldova: +2052 cases (now 310776), +29 deaths (now 7105), +17387 tests (now 1.9 million) since a day ago — Rwanda: +86 cases (now 98926), +1 deaths (now 1312), +22883 tests (now 3.0 million) since 23 hours ago — Kuwait: +38 cases (now 412196), +15482 tests (now 4.5 million) since 22 hours ago | 00:35 |
| LjL | people die. whether or not they've taken a vaccine. so "hey look n people died at some point after taking a vaccine" is meaningless on its own. | 00:36 |
| LjL | <imaginary> does Brainstorm follow michael lin? ← no, should it? | 00:36 |
| imaginary | LjL: i think his threads are valuable | 00:37 |
| LjL | imaginary, if you have a twitter account you can see what Brainstorm follows because it's its own COVID list on twitter https://twitter.com/i/lists/1326305739569324036 | 00:38 |
| LjL | okay i added him | 00:38 |
| imaginary | nice, ty | 00:38 |
| imaginary | lin does seem to tweet really often compared to topol tho, i'm assuming Brainstorm doesn't spam mindlessly? :x | 00:40 |
| imaginary | or maybe it's jsut the twitter interface not making it clear it's just one thread | 00:40 |
| LjL | imaginary, no, but that could be an issue. Brainstorm checks its entire RSS list every n minutes (i don't remember what n is right now, but like 5 minutes), so if there's anything new at all when it checks, it'll post it. it won't post more than one thing, and there isn't even a defined priority | 00:44 |
| LjL | so if something posts very often, it won't spam, but it may end up monopolizing the posts | 00:44 |
| LjL | if this mechanism seems silly, take it up with the author of that module | 00:45 |
| LjL | who is me, but at a past point in time, so in some philosophies, that would be considered a different person | 00:45 |
| ublx | https://www.cdc.gov/vaccinesafety/ensuringsafety/monitoring/vaers/index.html (Limitations section): | 00:46 |
| ublx | "VAERS is a passive reporting system, meaning that reports about adverse events are not automatically collected. Instead someone who had or is aware of an adverse event following vaccination must file a report." | 00:46 |
| ublx | "VAERS reports are submitted by anyone and sometimes lack details or contain errors." | 00:46 |
| ublx | wonder how many of those reports were submitted by summonner | 00:46 |
| LjL | i wonder how many of the death reports were submitted by the patients | 00:46 |
| ublx | "VAERS data alone cannot determine if the vaccine caused the reported adverse event." | 00:46 |
| ublx | "Generally, a causal relationship cannot be established using information from VAERS reports alone." | 00:47 |
| imaginary | LjL: that explains why a lot of times twitter updates are topol tweets | 00:47 |
| imaginary | i shall take it up with the module creator :x | 00:47 |
| LjL | imaginary, twitter updates aren't even separate from RSS updates, it just gets them from nitter.eu when it's not overloaded (since twitter itself isn't nice enough to offer an RSS feed) | 00:48 |
| LjL | oh wait it doesn't use nitter anymore | 00:49 |
| LjL | it uses, what's the thing, a local thing running on my server that turns twitterstuff into rss | 00:49 |
| imaginary | LjL: link to brainstormie's github repo? | 00:49 |
| LjL | what's the name de-facto ;( | 00:49 |
| LjL | imaginary, lololol | 00:49 |
| imaginary | :x | 00:49 |
| LjL | i'll pretend you didn't say that | 00:49 |
| imaginary | i wanna get on that popping social network github | 00:50 |
| LjL | :P | 00:50 |
| LjL | codeberg | 00:50 |
| imaginary | seriously tho how to contribute to stormie? | 00:51 |
| de-facto | huh? obesidy rss-bridge | 00:52 |
| LjL | imaginary, there really isn't a way, it's a mess of modules based on different things that is still running under Python 2 so i basically can't even add new dependencies | 00:52 |
| de-facto | lol | 00:52 |
| LjL | de-facto, when i say i have memory issues i'm not kidding :( | 00:52 |
| imaginary | sounds like a robust piece of software | 00:52 |
| Brainstorm | New from COVID tweets: Derek Lowe (@Dereklowe): MA coronavirus cases and hospitalizations are coming down, but verrrry sloooowly. I wonder if we're seeing the overlap of a generally waning Delta wave with the onset of cooler weather and more indoor transmission? → https://is.gd/yr1rXK | 00:52 |
| * de-facto reminds himself to clear text buffer before hitting enter | 00:52 | |
| LjL | imaginary, don't be snarky | 00:52 |
| imaginary | honestly, i imagine most robust software products being like that | 00:53 |
| de-facto | lol i never read my own text before sending it, bad habit | 00:53 |
| de-facto | its name is "rss-bridge" it works pretty well | 00:53 |
| LjL | de-facto, i guess so, since i had forgotten about it yet it's still running on my server! | 00:55 |
| de-facto | summonner, if you look at a number of events you would have to put them into relation with the absolute number of possibilities for their occurrence: if you count number of adverse events, they would have to be put into relation with possibilities for their occurrence hence adverse event per vaccinations given | 00:56 |
| de-facto | e.g. suppose it would be x% then taking that x% out of 69% of Australia population will yield a lot bigger absolute number (per period of time) than if only a few newborn kids and refreshing vaccinations (business as usual) are done | 00:59 |
| de-facto | i mean they even need vaccination centers etc to satisfy the demand with vaccination rates | 01:00 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Germany: +6491 cases (now 4.4 million), +45 deaths (now 95265) since 7 hours ago — Zambia: +15 cases (now 209411), +3 deaths (now 3657), +5622 tests (now 2.5 million) since a day ago | 01:00 |
| Brainstorm | New from COVID tweets: Eric Topol (@EricTopol): A few add’l points:1. 100 μg dose of Moderna booster used here is not (2X) 50 μg proposed by their EUA for FDA tomorrow2. In prior reports, Astra Zeneca 1st, then mRNA had superior levels of nAbs over mRNA 2 doses, not seen here w/ J&J 3. Assessments were w/ D614G, not Delta → https://is.gd/MNlnUx | 01:03 |
| de-facto | then of course the rate of occurrence per vaccination has to be compared with the rate of occurrence of comparable events per capita, e.g. compare the observed frequency in vaccination group with the expectation value from the background-frequency in a non-vaccinated comparison group | 01:05 |
| imaginary | JnJers who got a moderna booster are probably in an ideal position | 01:05 |
| LjL | imaginary, you wish | 01:06 |
| de-facto | .title https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.10.10.21264827v1 | 01:06 |
| Brainstorm | de-facto: From www.medrxiv.org: Heterologous SARS-CoV-2 Booster Vaccinations: Preliminary Report | medRxiv | 01:06 |
| de-facto | imaginary, ^^ | 01:06 |
| de-facto | very last page | 01:07 |
| LjL | i'm going to a medical visit tomorrow. i think i will wear one of my KF94 and not an Aura, because those Auras are just *so* fiddly to put back on, and if i'm asked to take my mask off by the doctor (which could happen), i know for a fact i'll be extra tense and will make a mess and possibly hurt myself while trying to put it back on ;( | 01:07 |
| de-facto | yeah why not go there with the Aura and take another normal FFP2 with you that you can put on if you took off the Aura? | 01:11 |
| squirrel | say any covid conspiracy theorists here? | 01:11 |
| de-facto | thats how i did it when i go to a MD, wait among other patients with FFP3 and then wear FFP2 with the MD | 01:11 |
| Brainstorm | New from COVID tweets: Eric Topol (@EricTopol): There have been over 4 million #SARSCoV2 genomes sequenced. And there have only been 4 variants of concern (VoC), culminating with Delta. A 5th VoC that would compete with Delta is something we do not want to see: the need to contain the virus globally. → https://is.gd/KUt5OF | 01:13 |
| LjL | de-facto, hmm, didn't think about that, would have to be a bit careful with having some bags to put the masks into without making confusion, but yeah it could work. although my Auras are just FFP2 anyway | 01:16 |
| LjL | (but i suspect being an Aura is more important than being an FFP3 per se :P) | 01:16 |
| de-facto | yeah take a plastic bag with you where you can put it (i always put them in plastic bag then into my jacket) | 01:17 |
| de-facto | yet dont forget to remove them later from it, since they would have to dry | 01:17 |
| LjL | yeah i forgot it in last time ;( i'll try to be more careful | 01:18 |
| LjL | i wonder, if i suffer from recurrent blepharitis (inflammation of the eyelids), which may or may not be what i have but it was when i had something similar and got seen by a doctor... could talking with a mask on for some time be triggering it? because i got this maddening eye itch twice in the past two weeks, both times after doing that | 01:19 |
| LjL | like i dunno, extra humidity or bad air reaching the eye and irritating it, i dunno | 01:20 |
| de-facto | Dans les champs de l'observation le hasard ne favorise que les esprits préparés. - Louis Pasteur, Lecture, University of Lille (7 December 1854) | 01:20 |
| LjL | i'm not very prepared but if i may have some spirits to help | 01:21 |
| de-facto | yeah if you go to an eye doctor definitely take a N95 like and even a surgical mask with you in case you would need to be looked at with that installation of optics (not sure how they call it, but where you put your chin on a holder and they look into your eyes) | 01:22 |
| de-facto | i did that some time ago, was good to have a "flexible" mask for that thingy | 01:22 |
| LjL | lol it's gonna get complicated to juggle between three masks :P | 01:23 |
| LjL | i'll just hold my breath | 01:23 |
| de-facto | i did juggle and i just took my time, its fine | 01:23 |
| de-facto | last winter i had eye inflammation (maybe even from wearing masks and exhaling into my own eyes), so i bought "hylo care" eye drops it contains 0.1% hyaluronic acid and dexpanthenol | 01:26 |
| de-facto | they worked pretty well | 01:26 |
| LjL | i have some eye drops that are mostly herbal, they work well for general itchiness when it's just you know, from wind or something | 01:27 |
| LjL | but now what itches the most is the eyelid | 01:27 |
| LjL | i have these things | 01:27 |
| LjL | err well it's an italian name and i can't find a site that describes them meaningfully | 01:28 |
| LjL | anyway they're pre-wetted clothes with a mild disinfectant solution, they were prescribed when i had blepharitis | 01:29 |
| LjL | but then i was also prescribed an actual antibiotic or something "serious", but he needed to measure my ocular pressure first because you couldn't take that thing without knowing it was normal, or it would be risky | 01:29 |
| LjL | so i'm using these soaked things and they make it a bit more bearable, but since it's coming back every week now, i want to know if i can do something that actually makes it go away | 01:30 |
| LjL | although i read blepharitis can be chronic ;( | 01:30 |
| de-facto | i always take "Floxal" (Ofloxacin) for bacterial things in eyes, but you need a MD for subscriptions | 01:31 |
| LjL | i do need to find the prescription i was given that time, to show the doctor tomorrow | 01:32 |
| LjL | maybe they'll give me something different but i think it would be good to show what i was diagnosed/prescribed that time, it was a couple of years ago, but it felt just the same | 01:32 |
| de-facto | yeah ask your MD, he should know better what is appropriate for that | 01:32 |
| de-facto | he/she | 01:33 |
| de-facto | may even be allergic, who knows | 01:34 |
| Brainstorm | New from COVID tweets: Eric Topol (@EricTopol): If you wanted to see more data on vaccine efficacy in pregnancy, just published, ~90% reduction of severe or critical COVID, h/t @neel_shah journals.lww.com/greenjournal/F… pic.twitter.com/xUYlsh7gg9 → https://is.gd/dv8ngr | 01:34 |
| de-facto | i got a house dust allergy, it sometimes also makes itchy eyes and sore throat | 01:34 |
| de-facto | was quite annoying before tests were widely available, because i thought damn i may have gotten a cold or such | 01:35 |
| de-facto | i went for a PCR with my MD two times because of that | 01:35 |
| imaginary | de-facto: encouraging tbh | 01:37 |
| LjL | i have a bit of a dust allergy but this eye *stings*, and it has a small but clearly swollen gland | 01:37 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Argentina: +1314 cases (now 5.3 million), +35 deaths (now 115582), +55398 tests (now 24.3 million) since a day ago — Colombia: +1256 cases (now 5.0 million), +34 deaths (now 126726), +48035 tests (now 26.1 million) since a day ago — Bangladesh: +518 cases (now 1.6 million), +17 deaths (now 27730), +22153 tests (now 10.0 million) since a day ago | 01:37 |
| de-facto | imaginary, yeah both boosting JnJ with mRNA-1273 as well as vise versa seems to result in similar Ab titers | 01:38 |
| de-facto | LjL, well lucky you then that you got an appointment tomorrow to get it resolved | 01:39 |
| imaginary | de-facto: kinda surprising that pfizer wins across the board against jnj tho, wasn't the theory that jnj+mrna was a better combo than mrna+mrna | 01:39 |
| imaginary | oh well | 01:39 |
| imaginary | moderna is the champion for now for boosters | 01:39 |
| de-facto | tbh if there is not like an order of magnitude difference or such it probably does not matter too much at all | 01:40 |
| imaginary | yeah | 01:40 |
| de-facto | after all its just a "reminder" for the immune system to stay alert | 01:40 |
| de-facto | and we are damn lucky that it seems to work that well | 01:41 |
| imaginary | excited for that preprint to be peer reviewed and published so hopefully government here starts issuing sane recommendations | 01:41 |
| imaginary | we really are | 01:41 |
| LjL | de-facto, do you happen to know if they have resumed issuing green passes in pharmacies in Germany? | 01:42 |
| imaginary | things are looking grim for countries who are vaccinating very slowly tho | 01:42 |
| de-facto | LjL, yes long time ago | 01:42 |
| de-facto | the QR code certificates from yellow WHO vaccination booklet document | 01:43 |
| de-facto | imaginary, yes even with majorities vaccinated the majorities hospitalized are mostly non-vaccinated | 01:44 |
| imaginary | de-facto: mind if i pm you with some questions regarding the certificates tomorrow? | 01:44 |
| de-facto | nope write me any time, but i am not an expert on those | 01:45 |
| imaginary | thanks | 01:46 |
| Dredd | <sdfgsdfgs> "not being discriminatory here..." <- I'm late to the party but I don't totally agree. Not all unusual people in low risk groups who have died were obese or in an at risk group as far as I recall 🤔 | 01:53 |
| Brainstorm | New from Ars Technica: Science: Mix-and-match COVID boosters are as good—if not better than—all the same shots → https://is.gd/oorMJO | 01:55 |
| sdfgsdfgs | risk groups shouldn't be used by media to get every single person vaccinated was my point (they dont even mention that they're in risk groups) | 01:57 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Switzerland: +2 deaths (now 11159) since 11 hours ago | 02:02 |
| Dredd | Being obese is just another risk group along with all the others | 02:03 |
| Dredd | And as far as I'm aware the data shows that most people should get vaccinated - especially when thinking at the population level rather than the individual level | 02:03 |
| Dredd | Which is totally what people should be doing in a global pandemic | 02:04 |
| Brainstorm | New from COVID tweets: Prof Francois Balloux (@BallouxFrancois): Many people seem to have 'learned lessons' about how our pandemic response was inadequate. Whilst this may feel premature, I'm delighted for them. Though, I, personally feel essentially as conflicted and confused as I was at the very start of the pandemic.twitter.com/BallouxFrancoi… → https://is.gd/JlSds8 | 02:05 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Uruguay: +160 cases (now 390394), +1 deaths (now 6065), +10937 tests (now 3.7 million) since a day ago — Zimbabwe: +92 cases (now 132108), +3 deaths (now 4648), +6246 tests (now 1.5 million) since a day ago — India: +17937 cases (now 34.0 million), +249 deaths (now 451469) since 20 hours ago | 02:39 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews: worldnews: Canadian CEO tests four-day work week for employees and says she won't go back → https://is.gd/X6AVF3 | 02:48 |
| de-facto | if we still did not manage to prevent non-vaccinated from being hospitalized it means risk groups obviously cant be distinguished well enough to prevent their severe progressions, hence we would have to admit that we still dont posses enough predictive capability to determine severe progressions on discovering infections by PCR tests or such, otherwise we could select potential severe cases and treat them early | 02:52 |
| Brainstorm | New from Reddit (test): CoronaVirus_2019_nCoV: Alabama teacher returns home after being hospitalized with COVID-19 for 234 days - ABC News → https://is.gd/mAeWjv | 03:09 |
| de-facto | btw just a notice: in Germany tests are not free of costs anymore, expect detected case numbers to drop and deviate significantly from real incidence, the infection chains may go undercover now here | 03:17 |
| de-facto | and also expect hospitalizations to not be a usable metric, they will get corrected from the day they get published, may possibly double in the next 30 days depending on many circumstances | 03:18 |
| de-facto | so if we are really unlucky we lost any kind of metric for the infection dynamic in Germany | 03:19 |
| lastshell | how bad will be that winter is around the corner for US | 03:20 |
| lastshell | de-facto in europe also the winter is soon ? | 03:20 |
| de-facto | yes last year numbers began to rise significantly in October | 03:22 |
| de-facto | so i expect the same will happen this year, just may be incognito until hospitals are full | 03:22 |
| de-facto | its basically giving up any kind of metric that would allow for control | 03:23 |
| de-facto | completely crazy and stupid policies, i hope this government will go away very very soon | 03:23 |
| lastshell | goverment just prove (around the world) that there were no ready for a real emergency | 03:24 |
| de-facto | lastshell, iirc seasonality was a 40% amplitude for reproduction number with minimum in July and maximum in January for central Europe | 03:25 |
| de-facto | like a Sinus curve or such | 03:25 |
| de-facto | i would guess US is pretty similar to that | 03:26 |
| lastshell | I just hope is the last big wave | 03:26 |
| de-facto | yeah we all hoped that, yet it may be that we will have this every year now | 03:27 |
| de-facto | endemic seasonal SARS is not what we wished for, but possibly what we have to get used to | 03:28 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Guadeloupe: +418 cases (now 54152), +17872 tests (now 485295) since 7 days ago — Fiji: +113 cases (now 51648), +10 deaths (now 663), +2508 tests (now 425108) since 2 days ago | 03:29 |
| de-facto | maybe we wont get big waves but rather more and more dampened ones with time | 03:29 |
| lastshell | does europe also have some supply chain shortages ? | 03:31 |
| lastshell | because I'm thinking that can also impact the wave (health and clean products) | 03:32 |
| de-facto | i mean if enough immunity is in the population (by vaccination and recovery) the reproduction number will be reduced significantly, hence if numbers get low in the summer together with some additional measures it may be possible to flatten the wave enough that it would not peak too much in the winter | 03:32 |
| de-facto | lastshell, i am not sure, what exactly is the shortage? | 03:32 |
| de-facto | medical PPE or such? | 03:32 |
| lastshell | de-facto: https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2021/10/america-is-choking-under-an-everything-shortage/620322/ well more like comercial supplies | 03:33 |
| lastshell | but not sure if the supply chain also affect medial/ PPE | 03:33 |
| de-facto | afaik UK got some problems with gasoline and empty shelf in supermarkets | 03:34 |
| de-facto | from my own experience i cant say i noticed supply chain issues in Germany yet | 03:35 |
| lastshell | let's hope no issues in that area | 03:36 |
| de-facto | but afaik some branches of industry got the lowest yields in a few years, due to supply chain issues such as missing semiconductors etc | 03:37 |
| de-facto | so yeah we definitely have a global sourcing problem for specific items | 03:37 |
| lastshell | yeah that also is been a lot of china / taiwan tention this last days | 03:37 |
| de-facto | just wanted to mention that yeah | 03:37 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews: worldnews: Top virologist says Delta defeated, predicts 6+ months of COVID quiet for Israel → https://is.gd/DoCDZY | 03:52 |
| jbwncster | I’m sad that my state hasn’t canceled the state fair | 04:11 |
| jbwncster | And hasn’t required vaccines to get in | 04:11 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Barbados: +311 cases (now 11785), +2 deaths (now 103), +2473 tests (now 347719) since a day ago — Mali: +24 cases (now 15536), +1 deaths (now 555), +2062 tests (now 434372) since 8 hours ago — S. Sudan: +19 cases (now 12168), +1398 tests (now 239888) since 8 hours ago | 04:31 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews: worldnews: Suicides among Japanese children at record high during pandemic → https://is.gd/47nyEm | 04:45 |
| Brainstorm | New from COVID tweets: Eric Topol (@EricTopol): Minnesota hospitalizations are now >80% of peak, before vaccinations, at near capacity, with highest current case growth rate in the US (35% past 2 weeks)nytimes.com/2021/10/13/wor…"every element of our health system is incredibly stressed”59% population vaxx rate pic.twitter.com/DjgVId9r8p → https://is.gd/Q5NQbM | 05:06 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Burkina Faso: +40 cases (now 14586), +3 deaths (now 203), +553 tests (now 220105) since a day ago | 05:09 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Belgium: +3667 cases (now 1.3 million), +13 deaths (now 25726) since a day ago — Anguilla: +50 cases (now 644) since 2 days ago — Peru: +891 cases (now 2.2 million), +19 deaths (now 199746), +42850 tests (now 18.4 million) since a day ago — Maldives: +106 cases (now 85838), +4284 tests (now 1.5 million) since 14 hours ago | 05:33 |
| Brainstorm | New from COVID tweets: Eric Topol (@EricTopol): Here are data for neutralization with AZ, then Pfizer, showing that was superior vs 2 AZ or 2 Pfizer doses for Alpha & Beta variantsthelancet.com/journals/lanre…Preprint today: look at neutralization not binding Abs; yes Moderna -> more boost than Pfizer to J&J, but w/ 100 μg dose pic.twitter.com/WjjkcdTH4u → https://is.gd/Su3Zp6 | 05:37 |
| LjL | de-facto, https://www.reddit.com/r/COVID19/comments/q7ie67/molnupiravir_mutations/ https://www.science.org/content/blog-post/molnupiravir-mutations | 05:38 |
| -RSSBot[LjLmatrix- Zotero / COVID links Group / Top-Level Items: Molnupiravir Mutations ( https://www.zotero.org/groups/covid_links/items/WQKEM5J4 ) | 05:47 | |
| Brainstorm | New from The Indian Express (Health): Fitness: Yoga expert shares effective breathing exercises that can help if you have Covid → https://is.gd/n95oPV | 05:48 |
| Brainstorm | New from COVID tweets: Bloom Lab (@jbloom_lab): Therefore, it will be important to keep in mind that our understanding of the "antigenic structure" of the #SARSCoV2 spike might need to continually be assessed as immunodominance hierarchies start to shift. (12/n) → https://is.gd/01NAiw | 05:58 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Indian Express: World: Ensuring equitable vaccines for all must for global economic recovery: Sitharaman tells G-20 → https://is.gd/FroTqx | 06:09 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Bolivia: +556 cases (now 505157), +5 deaths (now 18811), +6838 tests (now 2.5 million) since a day ago | 06:11 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for United Kingdom: +41668 cases (now 8.3 million) since 17 hours ago | 06:36 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Indian Express: World: English school return spurred Covid in children, but cases fell in adults – study → https://is.gd/j5esXL | 06:41 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for India: +16399 cases (now 34.0 million), +1301083 tests (now 587.7 million) since 13 hours ago | 07:01 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Indian Express: World: Suicides among Japanese children at record high during pandemic, says media → https://is.gd/aKpIgb | 07:13 |
| Dredd | LjL: honestly that anti-viral sounds way more terrifying than any of the vaccines to me | 07:31 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Anguilla, United Kingdom: +50 cases (now 644) since 2 days ago — Lombardy, Italy: +307 cases (now 887507), +5 deaths (now 34098) since a day ago — Northern Territory, Australia: +6 cases (now 222) since a day ago — New Caledonia, France: +248 cases (now 9665), +16 deaths (now 225) since a day ago | 07:38 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Kyrgyzstan: +91 cases (now 179583), +3 deaths (now 2627), +2886 tests (now 1.7 million) since a day ago | 08:03 |
| Brainstorm | New from COVID tweets: Michael Lin, PhD-MD 🧬 (@michaelzlin): No press release from J&J about this long-term followup of a 40000-person RCT showing waning efficacy in real-world case protection, whereas they had put out two press releases on antibody measurements in <20 people and on the non-controlled medical records study. Hmm. → https://is.gd/fEmjVP | 08:05 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/Coronavirus: Daily Discussion Thread | October 14, 2021: Please refer to our Wiki for more information on COVID-19 and our sub. You can find answers to frequently asked questions in our FAQ , where there is valuable information such as our: → https://is.gd/e2GH9R | 09:08 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Czechia: +6 deaths (now 30524), +71674 tests (now 39.1 million) since 23 hours ago | 09:30 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Georgia: +4212 cases (now 649407), +38 deaths (now 9370), +52620 tests (now 9.4 million) since a day ago — Lithuania: +2962 cases (now 360763), +41 deaths (now 5349), +24464 tests (now 5.2 million) since a day ago — Armenia: +1589 cases (now 276666), +29 deaths (now 5675), +12522 tests (now 1.8 million) since 23 hours ago [... want %more?] | 10:07 |
| MerlinMp[m] | Sorry for not translated article and no source data but this one is really interesting about antibodies | 10:45 |
| MerlinMp[m] | https://portal.abczdrowie.pl/przeciwciala-ma-polowa-polakow-powyzej-20-roku-zycia | 10:45 |
| Brainstorm | New from StatNews: Health: Tracking the FDA advisory panel meeting on Moderna’s Covid vaccine booster → https://is.gd/q5amaa | 10:54 |
| Brainstorm | New from COVID tweets: Tom Wenseleers (@TWenseleers): Nice thread about what the endemic equilibrium for Covid may look like once we reach it... twitter.com/trvrb/status/1… → https://is.gd/QF72Sa | 11:05 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Austria: +2169 cases (now 768711), +8 deaths (now 11143), +427441 tests (now 91.7 million) since a day ago — Slovakia: +1871 cases (now 431757), +19 deaths (now 12791), +12531 tests (now 3.7 million) since 23 hours ago — Estonia: +1056 cases (now 168884), +5 deaths (now 1409), +6914 tests (now 2.0 million) since a day ago | 11:09 |
| Brainstorm | New from BBC Health: (news): Covid: Lateral flow tests more accurate than first thought, study finds → https://is.gd/rO3MfD | 11:15 |
| godagain[m] | The Divine Program Make Human God Again Help You Live To Thousands Years If Not Forever Is Open Free For All | 11:22 |
| godagain[m] | https://makehumangodagain.wordpress.com/2021/10/08/the-divine-program-make-human-god-again-help-you-live-to-thousands-years-is-open-free-for-all/ | 11:22 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews: worldnews: Failed deal with China delayed made-in-Canada COVID-19 vaccine plans - Officials wasted months, spent millions on a lab that never produced a single shot → https://is.gd/1nVLpu | 11:25 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Russia: +31299 cases (now 7.9 million), +986 deaths (now 220315), +600000 tests (now 198.7 million) since a day ago — Poland: +2999 cases (now 2.9 million), +60 deaths (now 76018), +44889 tests (now 21.4 million) since a day ago | 11:34 |
| Brainstorm | New from BMJ: Covid-19: Fatal errors, not fatalism, created UK’s public health disaster: Was it fatalism that allowed 138 000 covid deaths in the UK? Were these deaths bound or decreed to have happened? The answer is, simply, no. Did fatalism kill people in social care, or differentially... → https://is.gd/wq6VNa | 11:57 |
| Brainstorm | New from COVID tweets: Anthony J Leonardi, PhD, MS (@fitterhappierAJ): The way to break the pattern is through vaccination at critical timepoints. Imagine rapid vaccine campaign then again at a point of waning immunity.Otherwise higher frequency and greater amplitudeMechanism includes positive feedback on mutagenesis from transmissibility pic.twitter.com/K7b2mCiIjy → https://is.gd/r5OE40 | 12:08 |
| Brainstorm | New from COVID tweets: Anthony J Leonardi, PhD, MS (@fitterhappierAJ): In Sum:1) Infection-promoting campaigns pushed cov2 into a positive-feedback cycle, borne by more rapid evolution2) this has increased transmissibility and virulence3) the only way to stop this process is with worldwide targeted vaccination before each positive phase. → https://is.gd/iPHMOc | 12:18 |
| Brainstorm | New from Gazzetta Ufficiale italiana: DECRETO DEL PRESIDENTE DEL CONSIGLIO DEI MINISTRI 12 ottobre 2021: Modifiche al decreto del Presidente del Consiglio dei ministri 17giugno 2021, recante: «Disposizioni attuative dell'articolo 9, comma10, del decreto-legge 22 aprile 2021, n. 52, recante "Misure urgentiper la graduale ripresa delle [... want %more?] → https://is.gd/pLhE6I | 12:50 |
| Brainstorm | New from ECDC: Data on testing for COVID-19 by week and country: The downloadable data file contains information about testing volume for COVID-19 by week and country. Each row contains the corresponding data for a country and a week. The file is updated weekly. You may use the data in line with ECDC’s copyright policy. → https://is.gd/1QzArh | 13:01 |
| de-facto[m] | .title https://www.jbc.org/article/S0021-9258(21)00563-9/fulltext | 13:15 |
| Brainstorm | de-facto[m]: From www.jbc.org: Molnupiravir promotes SARS-CoV-2 mutagenesis via the RNA template - Journal of Biological Chemistry | 13:15 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Latvia: +2408 cases (now 178298), +21 deaths (now 2857), +21504 tests (now 4.6 million) since a day ago — Indonesia: +1053 cases (now 4.2 million), +37 deaths (now 142848), +279948 tests (now 42.6 million) since a day ago — Nepal: +398 cases (now 804276), +8 deaths (now 11269), +3418 tests (now 4.3 million) since 23 hours ago [... want %more?] | 13:32 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Romania: +16383 cases (now 1.4 million), +304 deaths (now 40765), +67845 tests (now 13.7 million) since a day ago — Laos: +651 cases (now 30615), +1 deaths (now 36), +6855 tests (now 546312) since 23 hours ago — Finland: +502 cases (now 149174), +17326 tests (now 7.3 million) since a day ago — Brunei: +163 cases (now 9828), +5474 tests (now 425000) since a day ago | 14:10 |
| Brainstorm | New from EMA: What's new: General: COVID-19 treatments: under evaluation → https://is.gd/Cm0CF3 | 14:16 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/Science: science: COVID-19 may have caused the extinction of influenza lineage B/Yamagata which has not been seen from April 2020 to August 2021 → https://is.gd/tlhVWw | 14:26 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Switzerland: +979 cases (now 853637), +6 deaths (now 11163), +25547 tests (now 11.3 million) since 23 hours ago — Uganda: +60 cases (now 124924), +3507 tests (now 1.7 million) since 23 hours ago — Guinea: +25 cases (now 30560), +1585 tests (now 563203) since a day ago | 14:34 |
| Brainstorm | New from Il Sole 24 Ore: Milano, la filiera del pharma torna in presenza: Dopo lo stop imposto dalla pandemia, l’industria farmaceutica si dà appuntamento a Fiera Milano dal 9 all'11 novembre. Un settore che vale oltre 34 miliardi di euro e con un export crescente: +74% tra il 2015 e il 2020, rispetto al 48% della media Ue → https://is.gd/uy3tWW | 15:09 |
| SpearRaven | it's a Criminal act when Ivermectin is BLOCKED from use when human form prescribed | 15:21 |
| Brainstorm | New from StatNews: Pharma: STAT+: Pharmalittle: Biden team warns Moderna over global supplies of Covid-19 shot; Pfizer uses a warranty for refunds when a cancer drug fails → https://is.gd/OP2CYd | 15:30 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Belarus: +2052 cases (now 565865), +17 deaths (now 4353), +41952 tests (now 9.0 million) since a day ago — Bangladesh: +466 cases (now 1.6 million), +7 deaths (now 27737), +21568 tests (now 10.0 million) since 13 hours ago | 15:37 |
| summonner | de-facto thanks for your logical reply. this perspective was mentioned too, but that's why I put the airbag data as a counterpoint. By the same logic, the airbags should not have been replaced, citing "there are going to be some deaths from airbags, because cars are dangerous" | 15:46 |
| summonner | I'm concerned there's no one discussing this. That it's okay for people to die one way, and yet it's not okay another way. Why is there a disconnect? That is my point to everyone. | 15:47 |
| summonner | It's like people believe The Purge should be a real thing every year | 15:48 |
| ublx | summonner: ~7800 people die every day in the US (all cause mortality, CDC 2019). that's more than 1.6 million deaths in the interval for the ~6000 VAERS number you quoted yesterday | 15:53 |
| ublx | you compare number of deaths caused by airbags to number of deaths occurring in people who happen to have been vaccinated | 15:55 |
| summonner | of course people die, but I'm saying when something begins killing people | 15:56 |
| summonner | why do airbags get stopped, or gas tanks that explode from a off-side hit | 15:57 |
| summonner | why do we see people getting together to complain to their politicians saying "this stuff needs to be recalled" | 15:57 |
| ublx | to bring the airbag idea into comparison, you would need to consider the number of people who died in that interval who also happened to travel in a vehicle fitted with an airbag at some point in the 6 months prior to their deaths | 15:58 |
| summonner | so then it's okay as long as - statistically - the non-chance matters a specific amount? | 15:59 |
| ublx | translate that into english please? | 16:01 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Qatar: +79 cases (now 237741), +6295 tests (now 2.7 million) since 23 hours ago — Saudi Arabia: +36 cases (now 547797), +2 deaths (now 8755), +52320 tests (now 29.6 million) since 23 hours ago | 16:02 |
| Brainstorm | New from Reddit (test): China_Flu: COVID lesson: trust the public with hard truths → https://is.gd/Nu9ziy | 16:02 |
| summonner | i was just repeating what you said - the deaths are okay when we statistically compare the non-chance of death against a real death? so, the chance of a plane crashing with you in it verses a plane crashing without you in it - and that therefore determines the level of acceptable death? | 16:02 |
| summonner | that's what people are saying? | 16:03 |
| ublx | no | 16:03 |
| ublx | summonner | i was just repeating what you said - the deaths are okay ... | 16:03 |
| ublx | can you point to the part where i communicated the idea of okay? | 16:04 |
| summonner | I just don't understand why at 28 deaths, Americans say "all the airbags need to be recalled!" | 16:04 |
| summonner | and here we are at over 6,000 and no one is saying "recall the vaccine!" | 16:05 |
| ublx | why do you think americans say that? | 16:05 |
| summonner | well, because they did say that for the airbags | 16:05 |
| summonner | it made international news | 16:05 |
| ublx | who is they? | 16:05 |
| summonner | CNN, ABC, Lots of internet blogs, it was everywhere for a week, even in newspapers like the Financial Times, talking about how the recall would hurt Takata | 16:07 |
| ublx | and why are you STILL comparing deaths CAUSED by airbags to deaths that happened subsequent to vaccination in the absence of established cause | 16:07 |
| summonner | were you unaware of that issue? | 16:07 |
| ublx | i infer from your information that a single manufacturer is responsible for airbag installations that have good signal for being dangerous | 16:08 |
| ublx | i also infer that no one is calling for all airbags in the universe to be recalled, contrary to your implication | 16:09 |
| ublx | ie you were being disingenuous | 16:09 |
| ublx | and incorrigibly obtuse, in continuing to think (or mendaciously claim) that your reported airbag numbers are relatable to a sane interpretation of VAERS numbers | 16:13 |
| undefined_bob | thank you ublx | 16:21 |
| Brainstorm | New from COVID tweets: Eric Topol (@EricTopol): Will the Moderna and J&J boosters get approved (EUA) today and tomorrow?Likely yes, but their datasets are woefully deficientft.com/content/94c3ee… @jamiesmythF @FT wsj.com/articles/johns… @Loftus @felschwartz pic.twitter.com/iuAqaHQGxp → https://is.gd/qhC7M3 | 16:34 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Canada: +2724 cases (now 1.7 million), +73 deaths (now 28424) since 22 hours ago — Gibraltar: +20 cases (now 5727), +1218 tests (now 373138) since a day ago — Bhutan: +1 cases (now 2616), +1403 tests (now 1.2 million) since a day ago | 16:39 |
| Brainstorm | New from Reddit (test): È uno strumento sanitario!?: submitted by /u/TomfooleryPranks to r/CoronaVirus_ITALIA → https://is.gd/h7F1dp | 16:45 |
| Brainstorm | New from COVID tweets: Eric Topol (@EricTopol): Just published @NatureMedicineThe decline of vaccine effectiveness vs infections and lower Ct (higher viral loads); impact of the Delta variant compared with Alpha nature.com/articles/s4159… pic.twitter.com/DiKxtsvPvb → https://is.gd/VVqlU4 | 16:56 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Germany: +9191 cases (now 4.4 million), +59 deaths (now 95279) since 23 hours ago — India: +18674 cases (now 34.0 million), +239 deaths (now 451509) since 23 hours ago | 17:04 |
| Brainstorm | New from ClinicalTrials.gov: (news): ABNCoV2 Vaccine in SARS-CoV-2 Seronegative and Seropositive Adult Subjects → https://is.gd/5yQZOs | 17:07 |
| Brainstorm | New from ClinicalTrials.gov: (news): Phase 3 Booster Vaccination Against SARS-CoV-2 → https://is.gd/CpGC48 | 17:17 |
| lastshell | summonner also there is a theory a bad injection causing this blood cloths so is not the vaccine itself it could be the application | 17:28 |
| lastshell | does airbags cause covid ? I lmao | 17:29 |
| lastshell | just reading ublx i hope you still have some brain cells after that | 17:29 |
| ublx | no patience left anyway | 17:33 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Netherlands: +3650 cases (now 2.1 million), +4 deaths (now 18660) since 12 hours ago — United Kingdom: +38988 cases (now 8.3 million) since 23 hours ago | 17:41 |
| Brainstorm | New from ClinicalTrials.gov: (news): Characteristics and Outcome of Patients With COVID-19 in ICUs in South Tyrol → https://is.gd/6tDJF1 | 17:49 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Italy: +2666 cases (now 4.7 million), +40 deaths (now 131461), +324714 tests (now 96.4 million) since 23 hours ago | 18:06 |
| Brainstorm | New from ClinicalTrials.gov: (news): A New Scoring Model to Diagnose COVID-19 Using Lung Ultrasound in the Emergency Department → https://is.gd/usdDvS | 18:10 |
| Brainstorm | New from Politico: Vaccine rebels vow to paralyze Italy over incoming COVID passport: The entire workforce is required by law to show proof of vaccination or a negative test from Friday. → https://is.gd/WaG42V | 18:21 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Greece: +2572 cases (now 687278), +48 deaths (now 15289), +151640 tests (now 22.8 million) since a day ago — Greenland: +7 cases (now 645), +585 tests (now 80695) since 22 hours ago | 18:31 |
| Brainstorm | New from COVID tweets: Eric Topol (@EricTopol): The benefit of the Pfizer boosters across all age groups (vs infections in 16+, vs severe disease 40+), presented @US_FDA today as background for consideration of other vaccine boostersfda.gov/media/153086/d… pic.twitter.com/4xBqO6oMec → https://is.gd/kZHM8r | 18:31 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: FDA VRBPAC Meeting for October 14-15 → https://is.gd/YwqLjn | 18:42 |
| dan01 | Can I complain on this channel? | 19:02 |
| dan01 | I tried to convince my mom and older sister to get vaccinated but they don't want to listen.. | 19:02 |
| Brainstorm | New from Contagion Live: Mixing COVID-19 Vaccine Boosters Increases Immune Response: While receiving a booster of one’s original COVID-19 shot leads to an immune boost, this was heightened among individuals who received a different booster than their primary vaccine. → https://is.gd/uTyu8M | 19:03 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for India: +17074 cases (now 34.0 million), +200 deaths (now 451665) since 23 hours ago | 19:08 |
| lastshell | dan01 each person has there own beliefs, is hard to force someone | 19:10 |
| lastshell | I hope she doesn't have factors than can increase her risk | 19:10 |
| Juerd | It's only hard to force someone because that's illegal. But practically speaking, grabbing someone, tying them to a chair, and injecting something wouldn't be much of a challenge with most people :P | 19:11 |
| de-facto | i think forcing is not appropriate for vaccinations, rather understanding their concerns and address their questions, provide them with transparent high quality information in an understandable way | 19:12 |
| de-facto | i think society can expect everyone to come to an informed decision about vaccination (personal individual benefit to risk ratio), ignoring the problem or not wanting to listen is not acceptable, but an informed decision must be accepted (although may come with consequences such as restrictions to replace the missing protection from vaccination) | 19:16 |
| de-facto | and i think a community can expect such consequences to be enforced in favor or majorities because otherwise solidarity pays with both money and hospital capacity for dealing with many severe progressions that may have been avoidable with vaccine protection, hence for such cases exposure to the pathogen must be avoided by NPIs | 19:24 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews: worldnews: Scientists abused and threatened for discussing Covid, global survey finds | Coronavirus → https://is.gd/8jg3LY | 19:24 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Singapore: +2932 cases (now 138327), +15 deaths (now 207) since 22 hours ago | 19:33 |
| de-facto | .title https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/share-people-fully-vaccinated-covid?tab=map&time=latest | 19:33 |
| Brainstorm | de-facto: From ourworldindata.org: Share of the population fully vaccinated against COVID-19 - Our World in Data | 19:33 |
| Brainstorm | New from COVID tweets: Eric Topol (@EricTopol): I find this hard to believe"Sputnik Light demonstrates higher efficacy against Delta variant than many two-shot vaccines." medrxiv.org/content/10.110… → https://is.gd/jA3d9o | 19:35 |
| de-facto | .title https://metrics.covid19-analysis.org/ <-- select "daily new deaths per million" | 19:37 |
| Brainstorm | de-facto: From metrics.covid19-analysis.org: COVID-19 Spread Mapper | 19:37 |
| de-facto | Romania and Bulgaria are having big waves of fatal outcomes there, and they are among the European countries with the lowest vaccination rates | 19:38 |
| de-facto | and the winter wave will come now with seasonality responsible for increased transmissibility hence increased reproduction number Rt | 19:40 |
| de-facto | that is relative to their past, e.g. comparing 2020 to 2021 | 19:45 |
| Brainstorm | New from COVID tweets: Eric Topol (@EricTopol): A new approach for giving intravenous infusions of monoclonal antibodies for Covid: home delivery jamanetwork.com/journals/jaman… → https://is.gd/YLmBbb | 19:45 |
| de-facto | .title https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/romania/ | 19:49 |
| Brainstorm | de-facto: From www.worldometers.info: Romania COVID: 1,414,647 Cases and 40,765 Deaths - Worldometer | 19:49 |
| de-facto | i think Eastern Europe urgently needs more vaccine protection, otherwise this winter will bring many deaths | 19:55 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Indian Express: World: Global Covid wrap: Russia records highest cases ever; Australia’s Victoria looks at lockdown exit despite surge and more → https://is.gd/mav2rU | 19:56 |
| de-facto | this is Delta, not comparable to the D614G two variants of concern generations ago | 19:56 |
| de-facto | interesting preprint from Eric Topol tweets above | 20:00 |
| de-facto | .title https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.10.08.21264715v1 | 20:00 |
| Brainstorm | de-facto: From www.medrxiv.org: One-shot immunization with Sputnik Light (the first component of Sputnik V vaccine) is effective against SARS-CoV-2 Delta variant: efficacy data on the use of the vaccine in civil circulation in Moscow | medRxiv | 20:00 |
| Brainstorm | New from COVID19 Vaccine Tracker: Andy Becker: Altimmune Inc: AdCOVID → https://is.gd/bnKPpU | 20:17 |
| Dredd | I'm on a bus, only one other person is wearing a mask | 20:21 |
| lastshell | pandemic is over, now is endemic | 20:23 |
| imaginary | sputnik light being effective against delta is surprising | 20:26 |
| imaginary | >Sputnik Light demonstrates higher efficacy against Delta variant than many two-shot vaccines. | 20:27 |
| imaginary | hmm, which ones? | 20:27 |
| Brainstorm | New from COVID19 Vaccine Tracker: Andy Becker: Aivita Biomedical Inc: AV-COVID-19 → https://is.gd/qrWy9m | 20:28 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Spain: +1932 cases (now 5.0 million), +48 deaths (now 86917) since 23 hours ago — Dominican Rep.: +752 cases (now 368131), +5 deaths (now 4082), +5998 tests (now 2.1 million) since a day ago | 20:35 |
| Brainstorm | New from COVID tweets: Eric Topol (@EricTopol): During the Delta wave in India, a 27% rate of reinfection in a cohortscience.org/doi/10.1126/sc… @ScienceMagazine "as judged by increased antibody concentration after a previous decline"Finding again reflects prior Covid incomplete protection vs Delta, as many studies reinforce → https://is.gd/5quCkS | 20:49 |
| Brainstorm | New from COVID tweets: Eric Topol (@EricTopol): Just out @ScienceMagazine The memory B and T cell response to mRNA vaccines is quite durable and functional for at least 6 months, and for all the major variants, including Delta. science.org/doi/10.1126/sc…(A very reassuring finding in light of short dose spacing of 3-4 weeks) pic.twitter.com/QBmyoBgqBp → https://is.gd/x8vFa7 | 21:00 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Germany: +3129 cases (now 4.4 million), +20 deaths (now 95285) since 20 hours ago | 21:00 |
| Brainstorm | New from COVID tweets: Anthony J Leonardi, PhD, MS (@fitterhappierAJ): SARS-Cov-2 is proving to be the coldest, commonest, Coronavirus out there.As measured by body count and their average temperature. → https://is.gd/ra3a41 | 21:11 |
| Brainstorm | New from StatNews: FDA advisory panel unanimously endorses Moderna’s Covid vaccine booster for some groups: A Food and Drug Administration advisory panel voted unanimously Thursday in favor of authorizing booster shots of the Moderna Covid-19 vaccine to certain groups, including those 65 and older. → https://is.gd/phz3dv | 21:32 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Sudan: +297 cases (now 39416) since a day ago — United Kingdom: +44579 cases (now 8.4 million), +158 deaths (now 138645) since 15 hours ago | 21:37 |
| Brainstorm | New from Reddit (test): Dati ufficiali: submitted by /u/TomfooleryPranks to r/CoronaVirus_ITALIA → https://is.gd/6CTR7N | 21:43 |
| Brainstorm | New from WebMD: History Does Repeat: Pandemic Vaccine Uproar Is Nothing New: Division and disagreement over vaccines and mandates may seem like a modern phenomenon, but news clippings from the 1860s through recent history tell a different story. → https://is.gd/NqGFu4 | 21:53 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Kuwait: +32 cases (now 412228), +14607 tests (now 4.5 million) since 21 hours ago | 22:02 |
| LjL | in case you want some variety on freakishly scary medical things that don't directly involve humans or COVID: https://slate.com/technology/2021/10/contagious-cancers-warning-humans-climate-change-environment-zombies.html | 22:34 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for India: +17004 cases (now 34.0 million), +378 deaths (now 451847) since 20 hours ago | 22:39 |
| Brainstorm | New from WebMD: FDA Advisors Vote to Recommend Moderna Boosters: The panel voted to authorize Moderna boosters for the same groups who’ve gotten a green light for third Pfizer doses. → https://is.gd/p0z6yF | 22:58 |
| LjL | hmmm was there someone wondering about getting their third Moderna dose? | 23:05 |
| de-facto | So boosting now is with either 30µg BNT162b2 or 50µg mRNA-1273 mRNA? | 23:20 |
| Brainstorm | New from Reddit (test): CoronaVirus_ITALIA: Gli irriducibili del porto di Trieste avvertono Lamorgese: “Se proveranno a fermarci ci faremo trovare pronti” → https://is.gd/GTSdW2 | 23:29 |
| lastshell | I thing today the have the FDA meeting for the moderna booster shoot | 23:40 |
| Brainstorm | New from Reddit (test): CoronaVirus_ITALIA: Militari senza Green Pass cacciati dagli alloggi, è Rivolta:Il Sindacato dei Militari: “Basta, tutti in Piazza contro la violenza del Governo” → https://is.gd/ldINJd | 23:40 |
| LjL | lovely | 23:51 |
| Brainstorm | New from COVID tweets: Eric Topol (@EricTopol): Beyond the mRNAs (Pfizer and Moderna), Astra Zeneca, and J&J, the Chinese vaccines, Sinopharm and Coronavac, are also following suitnature.com/articles/d4158… @Nature → https://is.gd/ItkOsH | 23:51 |
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