| Descartes | https://gem.cbc.ca/media/the-fifth-estate/s47e01 | 01:03 |
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| user__ | oh i see, she said 'good lord' | 01:16 |
| LjL | wut | 01:23 |
| Descartes | That is a disturbing news documentary that puts Canada's relationship with China under a microscope, but it also raises a lot of unanswered questions about the Ebola vaccine. | 01:23 |
| LjL | and wut | 01:23 |
| Descartes | Not just about Canada's domestic production of a coronavirus vaccine. | 01:23 |
| LjL | Descartes, it's also unavailable outside of Canada, it says | 01:23 |
| Descartes | China had censored and deleted the interview. | 01:24 |
| Descartes | Well, actually, China had deleted parts of the interview related to the Chinese military | 01:26 |
| Descartes | The Fifth Estate | 01:27 |
| Descartes | The Vaccine | 01:27 |
| Descartes | Bob McKeown examines how a deal the Canadian government struck with a China-based company to create a COVID-19 vaccine fell apart, and why some say Ottawa should never have considered the deal in the first place. | 01:27 |
| Descartes | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vOyHzeREL98 | 01:32 |
| Descartes | It especially brings up a lot of unanswered questions about CanSino Biologics. | 01:39 |
| Brainstorm | New from COVID on Twitter: Dr. Lynda Coughlan (@Virusnerdette): We are recruiting again! We are now looking for an #influenza #virologist #postdoc with a broad range of #virology skills. A great opportunity for a new #PhD graduate who wants to expand their skills in #vaccines & #immunology. Job ad here [... want %more?] → https://twitter.com/Virusnerdette/status/1505690201322106882 | 01:49 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: Having schizophrenia is the second biggest risk factor for dying from COVID-19 → https://old.reddit.com/r/Coronavirus/comments/tiyogd/having_schizophrenia_is_the_second_biggest_risk/ | 02:37 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/COVID19: COVID19: Durability of the Single-Dose Ad26.COV2.S Vaccine Before and During the Delta Variant Surge in the US → https://old.reddit.com/r/COVID19/comments/tj0kjv/durability_of_the_singledose_ad26cov2s_vaccine/ | 02:55 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Vanuatu: +199 cases since 10 hours ago | 03:04 |
| LjL | Leonardi is having a (justified?) tantrum of the kind that made me remove him from the Brainstorm roster, but still, isn't he kinda right? https://twitter.com/fitterhappierAJ/status/1505730143104479234 he isn't sourcing those figures but i remember them too | 03:32 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for New Zealand: +14509 cases, +12 deaths since 23 hours ago | 04:00 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/Science: science: Even mild cases of COVID-19 might result in brain shrinkage and impaired cognitive function. → https://old.reddit.com/r/science/comments/tj2gtc/even_mild_cases_of_covid19_might_result_in_brain/ | 04:49 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/Science: science: Long COVID study indicates “something concerning is happening” as research found many long COVID patients are experiencing significant and measurable memory or concentration impairments even after mild illness → https://old.reddit.com/r/science/comments/tj2zoe/long_covid_study_indicates_something_concerning/ | 05:08 |
| user__ | https://twitter.com/meepbobeep/status/1505603428126502924 | 05:09 |
| de-facto | lol maybe she should have googled the term prior to tweeting | 05:12 |
| LjL | i think she knew what the term means, she just blames it on lockdowns, as do the people replying | 05:13 |
| LjL | also ugh at r/science posts, although i already knew | 05:13 |
| de-facto | excess to average, what other significant differences (except COVID) where in 2020 and 2021 to the previous years? | 05:16 |
| LjL | de-facto, lockdowns, limited access to non-COVID healthcare, stress | 05:21 |
| de-facto | if hospitals were overfilled and non-COVID fatalities occurred because patients could not get treated (e.g. cancer), or medical supply chains exhausted, would that have happened without the severe impact of the pandemic? | 05:21 |
| LjL | that's a separate question | 05:22 |
| LjL | but i think it would be fair to say they are not directly "COVID deaths" | 05:22 |
| LjL | also, these people don't really try very hard to hide their belief that lockdowns caused much of these difficulties that resulted in people dying from non-COVID causes | 05:22 |
| de-facto | id say the cause of those problems were also COVID related, hence occured more often than previous years, hence should get counted as excess in mortality due to COVID happening | 05:23 |
| de-facto | id just argue, if there was nothing else that significantly deviates in the previous two years except COVID any excess in any mortality is due to COVID | 05:24 |
| de-facto | i mean that is the advantage of excess mortality metric, it does *not* distinguish for *individual* cause of death | 05:26 |
| Brainstorm | New from BBC Health: (news): Covid: Spring booster jab launches for over-75s and high risk in England → https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-60795121 | 05:26 |
| de-facto | i mean surely we could argue about what measures would increase or decrease excess in mortality, but all of it is due to COVID except we could find something else that was significantly different in that window of time | 05:31 |
| de-facto | like, idk a war happening or such | 05:31 |
| LjL | de-facto, their argument is if we had done no lockdowns and no restrictions and hadn't freaked out about covid, we'd probably have less excess mortality, i figure | 05:59 |
| de-facto | without vaccines or any treatment the only way to restrict COVID deaths was preventing infections, that still is true modulus vaccinations and treatment that lowers mortality significantly | 06:06 |
| de-facto | but as always there is no glory in prevention, rather people later will even blame that it was unnecessary without even understanding the dynamics of exponential growth | 06:07 |
| * de-facto needs some sleep | 06:07 | |
| user__ | https://thecolumn.substack.com/p/bidens-new-covid-czar-previously | 06:20 |
| gry | hello. on what day does rat start being positive? say, i have day 1 asymptomatic, day 2 symptomatic, and get negative rat on evening of day 2 | 06:54 |
| gry | is it supposed to already be able to pick it up? i know negative rat doesn't mean a lot, it misses around 30% of positives or so (?) | 06:54 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Germany: +92316 cases since 23 hours ago — Fujian, China: +160 cases since 23 hours ago — Heilongjiang, China: +30 cases since 23 hours ago — Hunan, China: +28 cases since 23 hours ago | 07:02 |
| Timvde | gry: I asked a similar question some time ago, and I believe the maximum viral load was about day 3-5 | 07:08 |
| Timvde | So that's when you'd likely have the best chance of picking it up | 07:09 |
| Brainstorm | New from Reddit (test): CoronaVirus_2019_nCoV: Justice Clarence Thomas hospitalized with flu-like symptoms since Friday → https://old.reddit.com/r/CoronaVirus_2019_nCoV/comments/tj5dss/justice_clarence_thomas_hospitalized_with_flulike/ | 07:39 |
| gry | Timvde, thanks | 07:56 |
| Brainstorm | New from Science-Based Medicine: Ivermectin: The acupuncture of COVID-19 treatments: As high quality evidence increasingly and resoundingly shows that ivermectin does not work against COVID-19, advocates are doing what acupuncture advocates do: Turning to lower quality "positive" studies to [... want %more?] → https://sciencebasedmedicine.org/ivermectin-the-acupuncture-of-covid-19-treatments/ | 08:08 |
| Brainstorm | New from Reddit (test): CoronaVirus_2019_nCoV: Coronavirus infects male genital tract: Testicular pain, erectile dysfunction, reduced sperm count and quality, decreased fertility are direct consequence of infection, new study shows → https://old.reddit.com/r/CoronaVirus_2019_nCoV/comments/tj60gk/coronavirus_infects_male_genital_tract_testicular/ | 08:26 |
| Brainstorm | New from BBC Health: Covid trapped me at home for more than seven months: But a vaccine - the first time one has been used to treat Covid - set Ian Lester free. → https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-60621432 | 08:46 |
| Brainstorm | New from StatNews: The Covid-19 vaccine market is getting crowded — as demand begins to wane: With the market for Covid-19 vaccines contracting, experts say opportunities for vaccine manufacturers still trying to break in are narrowing. → https://www.statnews.com/2022/03/21/the-covid-19-vaccine-market-is-getting-crowded-as-demand-begins-to-wane/ | 09:43 |
| saviorbox[m] | Building A New Global Economic Financial System For All Nations | 09:49 |
| saviorbox[m] | Ebook: https://saviorbox.files.wordpress.com/2022/03/new-global-economic-system.pdf | 09:49 |
| saviorbox[m] | https://saviorbox.wordpress.com/2022/03/21/the-world-need-a-common-international-currency-to-end-global-economic-finance-trade-war/ | 09:49 |
| saviorbox[m] | https://saviorbox.wordpress.com/2022/03/21/the-rich-money-group-will-gone-when-the-true-fiat-money-paper-must-appear-with-expired-date/ | 09:49 |
| Brainstorm | New from Reddit (test): nCoV: Fauci's agency recruiting volunteers for study on COVID-19 vaccine allergic reactions | 20MAR22 → https://old.reddit.com/r/nCoV/comments/tj7ohy/faucis_agency_recruiting_volunteers_for_study_on/ | 10:22 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for France: +56 cases, +1 deaths since 12 hours ago | 11:00 |
| Brainstorm | New from EMA: What's new: Medicine: Veterinary medicines European public assessment report (EPAR): Respiporc FLUpan H1N1, Porcine influenza vaccine (inactivated), Date of authorisation: 17/05/2017, Revision: 6, Status: Authorised → https://www.ema.europa.eu/en/medicines/veterinary/EPAR/respiporc-flupan-h1n1 | 11:01 |
| Brainstorm | New from BBC Health: Most of Scotland's remaining Covid restrictions end: Businesses are no longer required to retain customer details, but face mask rules remain in place. → https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-60806381 | 11:39 |
| Brainstorm | New from BMJ: Mental health in the criminal justice system: austerity must now be reversed: The covid-19 pandemic has allowed us to acknowledge the depth and scale of the problems faced by mental health services in the criminal justice system. A recent editorial by Brooker and Coid is... → http://www.bmj.com/content/376/bmj.o727.short | 11:50 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/COVID19: COVID19: Mild COVID Dramatically Increases Risk Of Heart Problems → https://old.reddit.com/r/COVID19/comments/tj92jx/mild_covid_dramatically_increases_risk_of_heart/ | 11:59 |
| Brainstorm | New from BMJ: Sixty seconds on . . . covid toe: Is this a thing?Different groups on different continents have recorded increased diagnoses of chilblain-like lesions on the toes since the pandemic took off in 2020 and links have been made with... → http://www.bmj.com/content/376/bmj.o742.short | 12:08 |
| Brainstorm | New from BMJ: Closing our eyes to covid won’t make it go away: It’s been over three weeks now that cases of covid-19 and hospital admissions have been rising in England. Still, many of the people I speak to are unaware that we are potentially entering yet... → http://www.bmj.com/content/376/bmj.o743.short | 12:18 |
| Brainstorm | New from BMJ: Health of people in England did not improve in the years before the pandemic: The overall health of the population in England did not improve in the five years before the coronavirus pandemic, according to data from the Office for National Statistics (ONS).1The Health Index... → http://www.bmj.com/content/376/bmj.o744.short | 12:56 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Finland: +25705 cases, +98 deaths, +24963 tests since 2 days ago — Germany: +87993 cases since 21 hours ago | 12:59 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/COVID19: Weekly Scientific Discussion Thread - March 21, 2022: This weekly thread is for scientific discussion pertaining to COVID-19. Please post questions about the science of this virus and disease here to collect them for others and clear up post space for [... want %more?] → https://old.reddit.com/r/COVID19/comments/tja55s/weekly_scientific_discussion_thread_march_21_2022/ | 13:06 |
| Brainstorm | New from WHO Euro: (news): Placing children and young people’s mental health at the heart of the COVID-19 recovery, WHO/Europe and Greece launch new [... want %more?] → https://www.euro.who.int/en/media-centre/sections/press-releases/2022/placing-children-and-young-peoples-mental-health-at-the-heart-of-the-covid-19-recovery,-whoeurope-and-greece-launch-new-programme-for-european-region | 13:25 |
| Brainstorm | New from COVID on Twitter: Covid Fact Check UK (@fact_covid): Have you changed your behaviour in recent weeks as a consequence of the rising number of COVID-19 infections and hospitalisations with COVID? I.e. to be more cautious/take extra precautions? → https://twitter.com/fact_covid/status/1505886767504891905 | 13:44 |
| Brainstorm | New from COVID on Twitter: Squawk Box (@SquawkCNBC): "If I were a governor right now, I would be making a very hard push to make sure people in nursing homes are up to date with their vaccines and have been boosted recently heading into what I think is going to be a spike heading into the spring," says [... want %more?] → https://twitter.com/SquawkCNBC/status/1505888028589494272 | 14:03 |
| Brainstorm | New from FDA Press Releases: Coronavirus (COVID-19) Update: FDA to Hold Advisory Committee Meeting on COVID-19 Vaccines to Discuss Future Boosters: On Wed., April 6, FDA will hold a virtual meeting of its Vaccines and Related [... want %more?] → http://www.fda.gov/news-events/press-announcements/coronavirus-covid-19-update-fda-hold-advisory-committee-meeting-covid-19-vaccines-discuss-future | 14:13 |
| Brainstorm | New from StatNews: Pharma: STAT+: Pharmalittle: Covid-19 vaccine market is getting crowded as demand wanes; Russia looks to India to supply pharmaceuticals → https://www.statnews.com/pharmalot/2022/03/21/covid19-vaccine-russia-ukraine-patents-cancer/ | 14:23 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/Science: science: Consistent use of a face mask or respirator in indoor public settings was associated with lower odds of a positive SARS-CoV-2 test result (adjusted odds ratio = 0.44). Use of respirators with higher filtration capacity was associated with the most [... want %more?] → https://old.reddit.com/r/science/comments/tjd687/consistent_use_of_a_face_mask_or_respirator_in/ | 15:52 |
| Brainstorm | New from Medical Xpress: Coronavirus may double severe complications in pregnancy: A Kaiser Permanente analysis of pregnant patients who tested positive for the coronavirus found more than double the risk of poor outcomes including preterm birth, venous thromboembolism (blood clot), and [... want %more?] → https://medicalxpress.com/news/2022-03-coronavirus-severe-complications-pregnancy.html | 16:02 |
| Brainstorm | New from Contagion Live: “Most Transmissible Variant” BA.2 Expected to Overtake Original Omicron Strain: There are many unknowns about the BA.2 COVID-19 variant. It appears 50-60% more transmissible than the original Omicron variant, but health experts are [... want %more?] → https://www.contagionlive.com/view/-most-transmissible-variant-ba-2-expected-to-overtake-original-omicron-strain | 16:21 |
| Brainstorm | New from COVID19 Vaccine Tracker: valerie: AIM Vaccine: LVRNA009 → https://covid19.trackvaccines.org/vaccines/189/ | 16:31 |
| de-facto | %title https://eeas.europa.eu/headquarters/headquarters-homepage/113129/foreign-affairs-council-press-remarks-high-representative-josep-borrell-upon-arrival_en | 16:44 |
| Brainstorm | de-facto: From eeas.europa.eu: Foreign Affairs Council: Press remarks by High Representative Josep Borrell upon arrival - European External Action Service | 16:44 |
| de-facto | oops sorry wrong channel | 16:44 |
| Brainstorm | New from COVID19 Vaccine Tracker: valerie: Airlangga University: UNAIR Inactivated COVID-19 Vaccine → https://covid19.trackvaccines.org/vaccines/181/ | 16:50 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Canada: +4160 cases since 18 hours ago — Germany: +58 deaths since 22 hours ago | 17:03 |
| Brainstorm | New from Reddit (test): Monday 21 March 2022 Update: submitted by /u/HippolasCage to r/CoronavirusUK → https://old.reddit.com/r/CoronavirusUK/comments/tjfa84/monday_21_march_2022_update/ | 17:20 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/COVID19: COVID19: Neutralizing antibody responses 300 days after SARS-CoV-2 infection and induction of high antibody titers after vaccination → https://old.reddit.com/r/COVID19/comments/tjfwqu/neutralizing_antibody_responses_300_days_after/ | 17:39 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Ireland: +24710 cases, +26 deaths since 4 days ago — Samoa: +118 cases since a day ago — Vanuatu: +73 cases since 14 hours ago | 18:00 |
| Brainstorm | New from Contagion Live: Type 2 Diabetes Diagnosis More Likely After COVID-19 Infection: A matched cohort study found COVID-19 infection increased the risk of new type 2 diabetes diagnosis. Compared to patients with acute upper respiratory tract infections, COVID-19 patients [... want %more?] → https://www.contagionlive.com/view/type-2-diabetes-diagnosis-more-likely-after-covid-19-infection | 18:08 |
| user__ | https://nitter.net/i/status/1505716972977229825 dr.fauci | 18:16 |
| user__ | .title | 18:16 |
| Brainstorm | user__: From nitter.net: wsbgnl (@wsbgnl): "Fauci continues to spout the same pie-in-the-sky nonsense that has gotten so many people killed since last summer — present totally dishonest assessments of our potential to [...] | 18:16 |
| Brainstorm | New from COVID19 Vaccine Tracker: (translated) valerie: AnGes: AG0301-COVID19 → https://covid19.trackvaccines.org/vaccines/3/ | 18:47 |
| Brainstorm | New from COVID19 Vaccine Tracker: valerie: Arcturus Therapeutics Inc: ARCT-154 → https://covid19.trackvaccines.org/vaccines/140/ | 18:56 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Italy: +33445 cases, +119 deaths, +218216 tests since a day ago | 19:08 |
| Brainstorm | New from CDC (old): Coronavirus [CoV]: COVID-19 Travel Recommendations by Country → https://tools.cdc.gov/api/embed/downloader/download.asp | 19:16 |
| Brainstorm | New from CIDRAP: COVID-19 Scan for Mar 21, 2022: Alcohol deaths and COVID-19 Benefit of repeat COVID antigen test → https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-perspective/2022/03/covid-19-scan-mar-21-2022 | 19:45 |
| Brainstorm | New from WebMD: FDA to Consider Future of COVID Booster Doses: The FDA today announced its vaccines advisory committee will meet April 6 to discuss the future of COVID-19 booster doses and how to tell if a specific strain of the coronavirus needs its own vaccine. → https://www.webmd.com/vaccines/covid-19-vaccine/news/20220321/fda-future-covid-booster-doses | 19:55 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for United Kingdom: +225672 cases, +168 deaths since 2 days ago | 20:05 |
| LjL | bleh | 20:05 |
| Brainstorm | New from COVID on Twitter: Eric Topol (@EricTopol): In older adults, waning of neutralizing antibodies faster after Omicron than Delta "In the absence of omicron variant-specific vaccines, booster immunizations are crucial to restorevaccine effectiveness against severe outcomes." /4thelancet.com/journals/lanin… [... want %more?] → https://twitter.com/EricTopol/status/1505986377376169987 | 20:23 |
| LjL | dTal, hey look, someone who managed to get a whole office to go full post-apocalyptic-style mask https://twitter.com/BarryHunt008/status/1505743672779882502 | 20:31 |
| LjL | %title | 20:31 |
| Brainstorm | LjL: From twitter.com: Barry Hunt #COVIDisAirborne (@BarryHunt008): "BA2 is here. It’s reported to be 40% more contagious than BA1, arguably the most contagious virus in modern human history. Anecdotally I know MANY [...] | 20:31 |
| LjL | err | 20:32 |
| LjL | 20:32 | |
| Brainstorm | LjL, It says: err | 20:32 |
| LjL | that too | 20:32 |
| Brainstorm | New from Reddit (test): nCoV: Samoa detects scores of COVID cases within days of outbreak | 21MAR22 → https://old.reddit.com/r/nCoV/comments/tjk7qb/samoa_detects_scores_of_covid_cases_within_days/ | 20:53 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Canada: +5540 cases since 22 hours ago | 21:01 |
| Brainstorm | New from COVID on Twitter: Eric Topol (@EricTopol): "The [neutralizing antibody] response against Omicron declined 6.3-fold over the same 6-month time frame after the boost." @NatureMedicine /5nature.com/articles/s4159… pic.twitter.com/JrzHRa9tHF → https://twitter.com/EricTopol/status/1505996380023652355 | 21:02 |
| Brainstorm | New from Pfizer: kimkevin: Pfizer Voluntary Nationwide Recall of Lots of ACCURETIC (quinapril HCl/hydrochlorothiazide), quinapril and hydrochlorothiazide Tablets, and quinapril HCl/hydrochlorothiazide Tablets Due to N-Nitroso- Quinapril Content → https://www.pfizer.com/news/press-release/press-release-detail/pfizer-voluntary-nationwide-recall-lots-accuretictm | 21:41 |
| LjL | %print https://twitter.com/COVIDnewsfast/status/1505894427734118400 | 21:44 |
| Brainstorm | LjL, It says: COVID News Network (CNN) 🦠 😷 (@COVIDnewsfast): "I'm not going to sugar coat it for you guys. This will be the most difficult part of the pandemic to date. Not only is peoples mindsets where they are, the data itself has been sabotaged now. World governments have been changing the way they put out new COVID testing data" | nitter | 21:44 |
| de-facto | :( | 22:02 |
| LjL | (it's a thread) | 22:02 |
| de-facto | (its a disaster) | 22:03 |
| de-facto | breeding new nasty mutants while ignoring daily new infections, what could possibly go wrong with THAT | 22:05 |
| de-facto | and trusting a 2 year old s-protein signature | 22:06 |
| de-facto | where is our multivalent intranasally applied vaccine? | 22:07 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Egypt: +5516 cases, +84 deaths since 9 days ago — France: +24477 cases, +152 deaths since 11 hours ago — United Kingdom: +579 cases since 2 hours ago | 22:10 |
| gry | does rat test become positive after a child's 2nd vaccine ? or not possible | 22:13 |
| LjL | sounds theoretically possible depending on which antigen bits the test tries to bind to... | 22:14 |
| gry | any reported cases of that ? | 22:14 |
| gry | 2nd vaccine on sunday, rat positive tuesday morning | 22:15 |
| LjL | not that i know of | 22:16 |
| gry | https://www.health.gov.au/news/top-3-covid-19-vaccine-questions-antibody-tests-testing-positive-for-covid-19-and-covidsafe-travel "Second question, will I test positive for COVID-19 once I have received the vaccine?" "No" | 22:19 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/COVID19: COVID19: Trials of Ivermectin for COVID-19 Between Regions With High and Low Prevalence of Strongyloidiasis → https://old.reddit.com/r/COVID19/comments/tjm3j7/trials_of_ivermectin_for_covid19_between_regions/ | 22:28 |
| LjL | gry, a reasonable test should test for the N-protein at least, as well as the S-protein, and vaccines only contain a portion of the S-protein | 22:31 |
| LjL | but there are a ton of different tests in circulation, i wouldn't be extra surprised if some of them could turn out positive on S-protein circulation | 22:31 |
| Brainstorm | New from COVID on Twitter: Eric Topol (@EricTopol): CDC report on waning of 3rd dose vaccine effectiveness vs emergency department and urgent care encounters, age 18+, from 87% < 2 months to 31% > 5 months /6cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/7… pic.twitter.com/n9b9jH6KF9 → https://twitter.com/EricTopol/status/1506023275607965697 | 22:48 |
| gry | LjL, PCR test is more proper, it always tests for N protein right? | 22:58 |
| gry | tested with '2san' and 'all test' brand, both positive | 22:58 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Israel: +13055 cases since 22 hours ago — Cyprus: +5286 cases, +1 deaths since a day ago | 23:06 |
| Brainstorm | New from WebMD: Number of Flu Cases Lower Than Pre-pandemic Levels: The number of influenza cases is increasing across the United States but has not hit pre-pandemic levels, the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Protection says. → https://www.webmd.com/a-to-z-guides/news/20220321/number-of-flu-cases-lower-than-pre-pandemic-levels | 23:07 |
| de-facto | RAT tests usually target SARS-CoV-2 N-Protein, something not contained in the mRNA vaccines currently approved for children | 23:20 |
| de-facto | (mRNA codes the S-protein of SARS-CoV-2) | 23:20 |
| gry | ok | 23:20 |
| gry | thanks de-facto | 23:21 |
| wakeup | goddamn I had like 1.5 hour when I thought covid was about to kill me | 23:25 |
| wakeup | and now all of suddden the pain is gone | 23:25 |
| wakeup | I hope | 23:25 |
| wakeup | maybe it was the parecetamol that helped | 23:26 |
| gry | do you live alone or you are with someone? | 23:26 |
| wakeup | no, I don't live alone | 23:27 |
| trbp | paracetamol helps with covid? | 23:27 |
| wakeup | but my left cheek hurts, wtf | 23:27 |
| wakeup | this covid does weird things | 23:27 |
| trbp | wakeup: got it pcr confirmed? | 23:27 |
| wakeup | I don't know if it was the parecetamol but now I feel better | 23:27 |
| wakeup | not yet confirmed, but very likely | 23:28 |
| wakeup | the quick test was positive | 23:28 |
| wakeup | i think it was because I ate something I should have eaten | 23:28 |
| wakeup | it was not even good because my taste was gone | 23:29 |
| wakeup | it was my favourite meal and I didn't like it | 23:29 |
| wakeup | *I should not have eaten | 23:29 |
| wakeup | I just hope I don't have that acute pain again | 23:29 |
| trbp | you _should_ let it recheck preferable by pcr test | 23:30 |
| trbp | and if you have pains you should go see a doctor | 23:30 |
| trbp | though neither of both is a solution for a never asked question maybe | 23:30 |
| wakeup | yes, I didn't ask a question... I was just sharing my thoughts and situation and thanks for the advice! | 23:32 |
| wakeup | why are there 2 channels for covid: this one and coronavirus? | 23:32 |
| wakeup | maybe they should be merged | 23:32 |
| wakeup | I was reading this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paracetamol. Goddamn it says that it's one of the may causes of drug overdose in the west | 23:34 |
| wakeup | why do doctors prescribe it | 23:35 |
| wakeup | last time I was in hospital they pescribed it | 23:35 |
| wakeup | and also ipobrufen | 23:35 |
| LjL | gry, i'd say if you tried two different tests and both were positive, it's very likely they're positive | 23:35 |
| LjL | any PCR would test multple proteins but even without a PCR i think there's little doubt | 23:36 |
| LjL | wakeup, paracetamol is a very safe drug as long as it's not abused | 23:38 |
| LjL | the reason there are so many drug overdoses from paracetamol is, i'm afraid, partly that people use it to attempt suicide | 23:38 |
| wakeup | I was in the pharmacy, and the pharmacist made the quick test and the pcr in the same way, i.e. putting that stick in nose... I need to learn more about these tests | 23:38 |
| LjL | a very bad, long, uncertain and painful method | 23:38 |
| gry | LjL, apparently we are not eligible for pcr, only people in high risk group are allowed to have it (elderly, diabetes, etc) | 23:39 |
| LjL | gry, yeah the rules are being changed all over the world and i'm not a fan of it | 23:39 |
| wakeup | damn, yea, that's pretty creepy | 23:39 |
| wakeup | they could just use a more potent drug, maybe less painful | 23:40 |
| LjL | before we know it the official numbers will keep being very low, just because people are no longer being tested | 23:40 |
| LjL | i bet | 23:40 |
| LjL | wakeup, anyway, paracetamol doesn't *treat* covid i.e. you won't have better chances by using paracetamol, but it can definitely ease pain | 23:41 |
| wakeup | ease pain is just a good start | 23:42 |
| wakeup | *is already | 23:42 |
| trbp | having pain with covid is a sign to go see doctors | 23:44 |
| wakeup | fever was gone it seems | 23:44 |
| trbp | and pcr is not about the stabbing into nose or throat | 23:44 |
| wakeup | at least i doesn't feel cold as f** | 23:44 |
| wakeup | like before | 23:45 |
| LjL | wakeup, do you have a pulse oximeter? | 23:45 |
| trbp | it is about the method to verify markers that makes the difference between the pcr and selftests | 23:45 |
| wakeup | maybe yes... but I don't know where it is... I will search for it maybe later | 23:45 |
| LjL | wakeup, the guidelines in my country say below 92% it's advised to hospitalize | 23:48 |
| LjL | (but keep in mind cheap pulse oxymeters are fairly wobbly) | 23:48 |
| trbp | https://www.umassmed.edu/news/news-archives/2021/11/whats-the-difference-between-a-pcr-and-antigen-covid-19-test/ | 23:51 |
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