| bb|hcb | mason: i have just tried with devuan_chimaera_4.0.beta-20210830_amd64_desktop.iso - same result; bios says "boot fail", then "no boot device" | 01:03 |
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| mason | bb|hcb: Argh. Alright, I think your notion of installing Debian and converting might be the straightest line from here. | 01:05 |
| golinux | bb|hcb: desktop.iso is not the same as desktop-LIVE.iso | 01:07 |
| golinux | I think I remember that being mentioned above. | 01:08 |
| golinux | But I often get things wrong. :) | 01:08 |
| bb|hcb | I will try buster and converting | 01:09 |
| bb|hcb | Buster boots OK | 01:14 |
| fsmithred | mason, you can do a debootstrap install from any of the live-isos. bb|hcb bootstrap install is easy. bb|hcb if you use a refracta iso, there's a file with instructions and a script to do the bind mounts. | 02:31 |
| fsmithred | Xenguy, I figured out how to be in two places at once when I'm not anywhere at all. | 02:32 |
| * rrq finds that lieka usefull skill | 02:43 | |
| rrq | like a | 02:43 |
| fsmithred | I tried out webchat while I was at the radio station. It works. | 02:50 |
| Xenguy | fsmithred, love it | 03:15 |
| mason | fsmithred: You can't debootstrap Chimaera from Debian without snagging stuff for Chimaera. Noted because I tried it and observed it firsthand. You can deboostrap Beowulf, though. | 04:35 |
| fsmithred | good to know. I didn't think it worked. I forget who said it. | 04:35 |
| mason | I need to have my installer fetch a custom debootstrap so it doesn't matter what's being used. | 04:35 |
| fsmithred | just use a devuan live or refracta iso | 04:36 |
| mason | Pretty sure Beowulf is supported. I'll verify. I want to get our deboostrap in any event. | 04:36 |
| fsmithred | devuan debootstrap is already installed | 04:36 |
| mason | fsmithred: That was the thing for bb - he was saying they weren't booting for him I thought. I might have misread of course. | 04:36 |
| rrq | I think you'll need chimaera's debootstrap version for the chimaera script | 04:37 |
| mason | My installer tries hard to not care what's being used to run it, so I can't depend on the native debootstrap working if it ends up being Debian. | 04:37 |
| mason | Yes. | 04:37 |
| mason | I think that'll be the most comprehensive version. | 04:37 |
| fsmithred | rrq, you're right | 04:38 |
| mason | Anyway, that'll be work for the weekend. Once I'm done with this I'm going to publish it somewhere. It's the current iteration of the thing I throw in pastebins for folks sporadically. | 04:38 |
| mason | I seek to make it sufficiently not-embarassing that I'm willing to publish a stable version of it. | 04:38 |
| rrq | it also includes the correction against defaulted usr-merge | 04:38 |
| mason | rrq: That appears to still be an option, even if they've flipped the default. If you explicate it, debootstrap will obey no matter what version you've got. | 04:39 |
| mason | I'm not sure I've let it have its head in that regard for a while. | 04:39 |
| mason | Alright, I'm off again. Was just checking in to look at a work project's progress. | 04:40 |
| fsmithred | g'night | 04:40 |
| mason | o/ | 04:40 |
| rrq | fsmithred: I just added fsmithred as co-admin for devuan/forum-lang | 04:42 |
| fsmithred | what is that? | 04:42 |
| rrq | that's the languages subdirectory for dev1galaxy | 04:43 |
| fsmithred | can I get there from admin panel? | 04:43 |
| rrq | no it's on the git store | 04:44 |
| fsmithred | oh | 04:44 |
| rrq | it's a git project on the git store | 04:44 |
| rrq | to allow new languages be added without a ralph bottle-neck | 04:44 |
| fsmithred | are there specific files that people will want to submit? Or is it all files in each dir? | 04:45 |
| fsmithred | all | 04:46 |
| rrq | it's a separate directory tree for each language | 04:46 |
| fsmithred | yeah, I see | 04:46 |
| fsmithred | so... add or replace files, commit and push | 04:46 |
| rrq | I was thinking an author would start by cloning the project, then eventually submitt a merge request... then a trusted person would review and merge .. | 04:47 |
| rrq | and then someone goes to the forum code and pulls the update | 04:48 |
| fsmithred | I like that better. Less chance of keymap issues | 04:48 |
| golinux | I was happy to hear LeePen's assessment yesterday that usr-merge is far from a done deal. | 04:48 |
| rrq | atm the project is "private" | 04:48 |
| rrq | golinux: yes... we'll see | 04:49 |
| fsmithred | I've never handled or made a merge request | 04:49 |
| fsmithred | looks like it can be done in web interface. Is that correct? | 04:50 |
| rrq | yeah; the important bit is that somone other than me has admin rights... then it's a matter of getting someone (else?) to handle the technicalities | 04:50 |
| rrq | I think so. I haven't done it merge in the gui | 04:51 |
| rrq | I always merge in the privacy of my home | 04:51 |
| fsmithred | I'll clone it and see what it looks like | 04:52 |
| fsmithred | I see cyrillic | 04:53 |
| rrq | yes; and we have jobautista's Tagalog in my todo pile... | 04:54 |
| rrq | hah.. maybe I can submit that as a merge request .. to learn the process .. | 04:54 |
| rrq | .. and I think I have a a Spanish update as well | 04:56 |
| fsmithred | most of the search hits seem to be specific for github or gitlab | 04:58 |
| rrq | probably... let me submit something (later today) and then you could try to merge that (tomorrow) .. just to have a bit of fun | 04:59 |
| fsmithred | I was playing (fighting) with a new Synology server today. I think I'm fried. | 04:59 |
| fsmithred | tomorrow will be good | 05:00 |
| fsmithred | I might even be awake before you go to sleep | 05:00 |
| rrq | yes, well, there is no rush | 05:01 |
| rrq | with this setup we might avoid current SP-blockage for forum translations | 05:06 |
| fsmithred | ok, I'm off to dreamland. See you on the other side. | 05:07 |
| rrq | night | 05:07 |
| gnu_srs1 | FYI: I have now pushed eudev 3.2.9-10 upstream again. I had to remove the eudev.maintscript completely to build with debhelper 13.5. | 13:31 |
| gnu_srs1 | Built and installed fine locally with: debhelper_13.5.1, libdebhelper-perl_13.5.1 and dwz_0.14-1 as well as | 13:31 |
| gnu_srs1 | debhelper_12.1.1, dwz_0.12-3, and libdebhelper-perl removed :) | 13:31 |
| bb|hcb | gnu_srs1: I have fetched your changes and will do a build and see if it will work | 23:05 |
| bb|hcb | fyi, my previous try didn't install udev.conf at all and update-initramfs broke. To fix I did a touch /etc/udev/udev.conf and everything worked, but that is obviously not a solution... | 23:07 |
| bb|hcb | Now I will install your version and remove udev.conf before doing so | 23:08 |
| bb|hcb | Looks like working :) | 23:21 |
| bb|hcb | But, I tested on a system w/o desktop env, so its better to do some more testing before pushing the build | 23:21 |
| bb|hcb | gnu_srs1: there is a lintian P: eudev source: package-uses-old-debhelper-compat-version 12 | 23:24 |
| bb|hcb | its not a bad idea to bump to 13 | 23:24 |
| bb|hcb | also current standards are 4.6.0 (but lintian does not know that yet) | 23:26 |
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