| u-amarsh04 | sorry for what must be a FAQ - what is the best way to do a bulk copy from filesystem to another without the files going through the buffer cache? | 04:44 |
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| Xenguy | rsync, or add details to the problem description | 04:54 |
| jason1234 | good morning | 08:14 |
| jason1234 | here i am. i deleted my mirror of pkg with xfce4 | 08:15 |
| jason1234 | how to install xfce4 on ascii ? it is broken, any ideas welcome. | 08:15 |
| ShorTie | ascii ? | 08:15 |
| ShorTie | is that supported any more | 08:15 |
| u-amarsh04 | thanks Xenguy | 08:16 |
| u-amarsh04 | Xenguy on this occasion I had the additional fun of changing filesystem naming restrictions | 08:21 |
| phidoux | greetings i went to install zenity on the testing branch and found out it requires xdg-desktop-portal which requires pipewire | 08:36 |
| phidoux | thought i should let people know that in the event they use zenity but don't yet trust or want to use pipe wire | 08:36 |
| fsmithred | jason1234, for now, install ascii from dvd without a network mirror. The file you need is in the iso. | 10:19 |
| fsmithred | or CD1 | 10:19 |
| fsmithred | jason1234, the new version of libupower-glib3 is now in ascii-proposed-updates | 11:34 |
| HumanG33k | hi friends | 12:35 |
| HumanG33k | strange thing on a devuan it not see anymore /etc/init.d/networking | 12:35 |
| HumanG33k | after a "hard" reboot because of ram issue (everything use by io) | 12:36 |
| HumanG33k | there is a way to manualy setup interfaces ? | 12:36 |
| rrq | install ifupdown | 12:38 |
| rrq | maybe hard to do without network :) | 12:39 |
| rrq | do you have "ifconfig" and/or "ip" ? | 12:40 |
| HumanG33k | ifconfig look up | 12:41 |
| HumanG33k | rrq | 12:41 |
| rrq | ok, try: ifconfig eth0 192.168.0.13/24 up | 12:41 |
| rrq | well use your IP | 12:42 |
| rrq | then: ip route add default via 192.168.0.1 dev eth0 | 12:42 |
| rrq | well your gateway IP | 12:42 |
| HumanG33k | k what idiot i m … i should think about that | 12:43 |
| rrq | third you might need to edit /etc/resolv.conf for dns | 12:44 |
| HumanG33k | ip not found :) | 12:45 |
| HumanG33k | i will route add | 12:45 |
| rrq | right | 12:46 |
| HumanG33k | lol ping not found | 12:46 |
| rrq | check with "telnet" ? | 12:47 |
| rrq | (is $PATH set up) | 12:47 |
| jason1234 | how to intall xfce4 on ascii? | 12:48 |
| jason1234 | when can I run xfce4 on ascii? I need to run ms teams. only apt-get install xfce4 can get ms teams to work | 12:49 |
| jason1234 | a fix is welcome | 12:49 |
| rrq | yes, xfce4 currently still broken due to missing libupower-glib3 hard dependency ... | 12:50 |
| rrq | an ascii compile exists at https://pkgmaster.devuan.org/devuan/pool/main/u/upower/libupower-glib3_0.99.4-4%2Bdevuan3_amd64.deb | 12:51 |
| rrq | (assuming amd64) but it hasn't got into the distribution yet | 12:51 |
| rrq | maybe you have the option to download that and add bmo "dpkg -i" | 12:52 |
| jason1234 | i dont understand | 13:08 |
| jason1234 | how to install it with ? this link? https://pkgmaster.devuan.org/devuan/pool/main/u/upower/libupower-glib3_0.99.4-4%2Bdevuan3_amd64.deb | 13:08 |
| jason1234 | wget https://pkgmaster.devuan.org/devuan/pool/main/u/upower/libupower-glib3_0.99.4-4%2Bdevuan3_amd64.deb ; and then? | 13:08 |
| rrq | then: dpkg -i libupower-glib3_0.99.4-4%2Bdevuan3_amd64.deb | 13:18 |
| rrq | then: apt-get -f install | 13:18 |
| rrq | I guess %2B means + actually | 13:19 |
| jason1234 | hi there | 13:24 |
| jason1234 | ok ... let s try. we have no other chanc4e.... | 13:24 |
| jason1234 | wow | 13:25 |
| jason1234 | it seems to install ! | 13:25 |
| jason1234 | I will neeed to install about 10 machines, how to do that into a shorter time?# | 13:25 |
| jason1234 | is there maybe a Package.list file available that would handle it ? | 13:26 |
| jason1234 | backports maybe? | 13:26 |
| rrq | it's on its way into ascii-proposed-updates but that's still some days off | 13:27 |
| fsmithred | it's in ascii-proposed-updates | 13:27 |
| fsmithred | got there a couple hours ago, I guess | 13:28 |
| jason1234 | how many days will it take to be in the default ascii list? | 13:28 |
| fsmithred | not sure. Possibly after you install the new version and tell us if it works. | 13:29 |
| fsmithred | possibly never | 13:29 |
| jason1234 | sounds amazing | 13:29 |
| fsmithred | if it becomes more than about 180 days, that's when ascii drops out of long-term support | 13:29 |
| jason1234 | lot of people use xfce 4 | 13:29 |
| fsmithred | June 30, 2022 | 13:30 |
| fsmithred | add a line to sources.list for ascii-proposed-updates | 13:30 |
| fsmithred | apt update | 13:30 |
| fsmithred | apt upgrade | 13:30 |
| fsmithred | you can do that after installing from dvd or cd1 without a network mirror | 13:31 |
| fsmithred | that's how you can install ascii with xfce | 13:31 |
| fsmithred | desktop-live would work, too | 13:31 |
| jason1234 | and ok... I can create my own package list on my devuan server | 13:31 |
| rrq | ok, so for debootstrap you can now give: --extra-suites=ascii-proposed-updates --include=libupower-glib3,dbus-x11,xfce4 | 13:31 |
| jason1234 | how to craete teh package list from my list of deb? | 13:32 |
| fsmithred | oh, cool | 13:32 |
| fsmithred | dpkg -l | 13:32 |
| fsmithred | for list | 13:32 |
| fsmithred | if you just want package names in the list... | 13:32 |
| fsmithred | dpkg -l | awk '/^ii/ { print $2 }' | 13:32 |
| fsmithred | or you could use dpkg get-selections and dpkg set-selections to install the same packages | 13:33 |
| jason1234 | i will have to make my own server | 13:33 |
| fsmithred | are you installing the exact same system on multiple machines? | 13:34 |
| jason1234 | I have quite few machines to install. they all need ms teams on ascii (to keep it) microsoft working. | 13:34 |
| jason1234 | ( i go for lunch) | 13:35 |
| fsmithred | enjoy | 13:35 |
| dokma | My qemu vm with kvm accel has horrible, useless networking. It's laggy, drops connections and completely useless. | 15:24 |
| dokma | I tried e1000, realtek and virtio for networking. Some do not work, others work poorly. | 15:24 |
| dokma | This is my invocation of qemu: qemu-system-x86_64 -accel kvm -m 6144 -smp cpus=4 -drive file=/var/vms/abraham.img,format=raw,if=virtio -netdev tap,id=mynet0,ifname=tap0,script=no,downscript=no -device e1000,netdev=mynet0 | 15:25 |
| buZz | virtio should be best performing | 15:35 |
| dokma | buZz: tried virtio too. It's not about performance. I'm getting packet loss and connections refused. | 15:35 |
| dokma | For example if I try to ssh from the host into the guest, most ofthe the connection is refused. | 15:35 |
| dokma | What should be the first think to look into here? | 15:37 |
| buZz | maybe https://www.linux-kvm.org/page/Networking under 'public bridge' is what you need? | 15:38 |
| dokma | Let me take a look | 15:38 |
| buZz | this is how proxmox is running kvms with networking , and havent had similar issues with it | 15:38 |
| dokma | buZz: I'm already setup like this except perhaps for the iptables routing | 15:42 |
| dokma | I'll take a look into it... | 15:42 |
| buZz | so the kvm has a -external- ip? | 15:42 |
| dokma | Yes | 15:42 |
| buZz | hmm, weird then | 15:42 |
| dokma | I can ssh from the host into the guest | 15:42 |
| dokma | SOMETIMES! | 15:43 |
| buZz | and from another host on your lan? | 15:43 |
| HumanG33k | no network issue with proxmox for me | 15:43 |
| dokma | buZz: will check it now | 15:56 |
| dokma | buZz: from a windows host I get connection refused... | 16:12 |
| buZz | consistently? :) | 16:12 |
| dokma | I also tried a rather large download from the guest and it worked at up to 50mbits per second | 16:13 |
| buZz | so maybe your br0 interface isnt exposed properly? | 16:13 |
| dokma | buZz: from win I consistently get connection refused | 16:14 |
| dokma | how do I check if the interface is exposed properly? | 16:14 |
| buZz | maybe try adding that iptables routing ? | 16:14 |
| dokma | Will try that too. | 16:15 |
| dokma | Gotta go pick up the kids now. | 16:15 |
| dokma | Back in hour | 16:15 |
| jason1234 | nope | 16:47 |
| jason1234 | it ddidnt work | 16:48 |
| jason1234 | with the trick, deb files, the xfce4 does not allow Microsoft Team to work. | 16:48 |
| jason1234 | the earlier version of xfce4 - before it is broken, worked. | 16:48 |
| jason1234 | any ideas? | 16:48 |
| jason1234 | I can leave you a list dpkg info which works. | 16:48 |
| jason1234 | i have one installation xfce4 that works | 16:57 |
| jason1234 | i have one installation xfce4 that does not work. I will post on termbin.com two dpkg -l info list. | 16:58 |
| jason1234 | maybe not sure. | 17:00 |
| jason1234 | ok got it. | 17:57 |
| jason1234 | Please find xfce4 working dpkg -l info list: https://termbin.com/nd0j | 17:58 |
| jason1234 | Please find xfce4 NON / NOT working dpkg -l info list, with the dpkg -i trick: https://termbin.com/pyqm2 | 17:59 |
| jason1234 | /join -libera #linux | 19:21 |
| aitor | what means "it doesn't work"? Can you give more details? I can't see the grub in your package list | 20:44 |
| fsmithred | jason1234, are you saying that xfce worked with the old libupower-glib3 but does not work with the newer version? | 21:16 |
| fsmithred | I don't think that's the problem. I just booted a live-iso and upgraded libupower-glib3, restarted xfce and it works fine. | 21:27 |
| fsmithred | Then I upgraded upower and did it again. Still OK. | 21:27 |
| fsmithred | now upgrading the other 268 packages that got updates since this iso was made. | 21:28 |
| fsmithred | xfce still works after the upgrade. | 21:41 |
| gnarface | i thought microsoft teams required adobe flash, am i remembering that wrong? | 21:58 |
| gnarface | or silverlight or something like that anyway? | 21:59 |
| Jjp137 | nah it probably uses a ton of modern web dev stuff these days like everything else | 22:02 |
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