| Guest66 | Hi | 17:51 |
|---|---|---|
| Guest66 | I'm trying to boot the devuan chimera minimal iso on qemu | 17:51 |
| Guest66 | it kernel panicks before I can do anything. | 17:51 |
| fsmithred | Guest66, which iso? Does it have "signed" in the name? | 17:55 |
| Guest66 | devuan_chimaera_4.0.0_amd64_minimal-live.iso | 17:56 |
| fsmithred | ok, that's the official one. | 17:56 |
| Guest66 | from here | 17:56 |
| Guest66 | https://ftp.fau.de/devuan-cd/devuan_chimaera/minimal-live/ | 17:56 |
| Guest66 | Gonna try beowulf now. | 17:56 |
| fsmithred | yeah, I asked because I made one for testing with the signed kernel | 17:56 |
| Guest66 | ah ok | 17:56 |
| fsmithred | your hardware does 64-bit? | 17:57 |
| Guest66 | it runs alpine 64 | 17:57 |
| Guest66 | also NetBSD 64 as a host. | 17:57 |
| fsmithred | uefi or bios boot? | 17:57 |
| Guest66 | bios. | 17:57 |
| Guest66 | but I mean, it's a compatibility mode, it's a lenovo 440p with a UEFI | 17:57 |
| Guest66 | also, the devuan only sees coreboot | 17:57 |
| Guest66 | since it's running in qemu | 17:58 |
| Guest66 | it should not have to deal with either BIOS compat or UEFI. | 17:58 |
| fsmithred | right | 17:58 |
| fsmithred | it normally does boot with bios and in qemu | 17:58 |
| Guest66 | So I modified my startup script for using beowulf | 17:59 |
| Guest66 | as soon as it's done downloading, I will try | 17:59 |
| Guest66 | it behaves exactly the same | 17:59 |
| Guest66 | that's weird. | 17:59 |
| Guest66 | not the beowulf interface I'm used to | 18:00 |
| fsmithred | what are you seeing? | 18:00 |
| Guest66 | Kernel panick too | 18:00 |
| fsmithred | should be white background on the boot menu | 18:00 |
| Guest66 | I'm seeing a white ANSI art like interface. | 18:00 |
| fsmithred | yeah | 18:00 |
| Guest66 | normally the devuan installer does not look like this. | 18:00 |
| Guest66 | but I never used it in qemu so... | 18:01 |
| fsmithred | maybe something for your hardware is missing from initrd? | 18:01 |
| Guest66 | Anyhow | 18:01 |
| Guest66 | maybe | 18:01 |
| Guest66 | but it says: | 18:01 |
| fsmithred | the live isos don't have the devuan installer | 18:01 |
| Guest66 | `No filesystem could mount root, tried:` | 18:01 |
| Guest66 | and then a blank line. | 18:01 |
| fsmithred | and the minimal live has a trimmed down initrd | 18:01 |
| fsmithred | what fs are you using? | 18:01 |
| Guest66 | on qemu? | 18:01 |
| Guest66 | qcow2 | 18:01 |
| fsmithred | oh, duh | 18:01 |
| Guest66 | that not included? | 18:02 |
| Guest66 | :D | 18:02 |
| fsmithred | I test the isos in qemu | 18:02 |
| fsmithred | before they get uploaded | 18:02 |
| Guest66 | well, weird | 18:03 |
| Guest66 | should I change the disk format? | 18:04 |
| fsmithred | qemu-system-x86_64 -name devuan_chimaera_4.0.0_amd64_minimal-live.iso -enable-kvm -m 768 -cdrom devuan_chimaera_4.0.0_amd64_minimal-live.iso -soundhw hda -smp cores=2,threads=2 | 18:04 |
| fsmithred | just booted with that. | 18:04 |
| Guest66 | lemme try that. | 18:04 |
| fsmithred | just kvm, mem and cdrom options should be enough | 18:05 |
| Guest66 | ok so I have to disable kvm | 18:05 |
| fsmithred | disable? | 18:05 |
| Guest66 | yeah | 18:05 |
| fsmithred | bummer | 18:05 |
| Guest66 | it's "invalid" | 18:05 |
| Guest66 | on NetBSD | 18:05 |
| fsmithred | oh | 18:05 |
| Guest66 | yeah. | 18:06 |
| fsmithred | so, go make coffee while it boots up | 18:06 |
| Guest66 | and yes it boots. | 18:06 |
| Guest66 | nah it's fine, I wanna see it boot. | 18:06 |
| Guest66 | Also, I have to figure out what you have in your command that I'm missing in my script. | 18:06 |
| Guest66 | because it can't possibly be the SMP parameters. | 18:06 |
| Guest66 | and to be very fair | 18:07 |
| fsmithred | that shouldn't matter | 18:07 |
| Guest66 | the rest of the command is very similar | 18:07 |
| Guest66 | the only thing is | 18:07 |
| Guest66 | this qemu command has no drive | 18:08 |
| Guest66 | mine has one. | 18:08 |
| fsmithred | no, not that one. | 18:08 |
| Guest66 | ok so I have a command line but no graphical install | 18:08 |
| fsmithred | I can get that for you. Have to reboot and see what I get. It's hidden inside a script | 18:08 |
| Guest66 | is there no way to get a curse install? | 18:08 |
| fsmithred | correct. It's the minimal live. | 18:09 |
| Guest66 | dang | 18:09 |
| Guest66 | ok I'll download the live graphical then | 18:09 |
| fsmithred | you want a desktop, use the desktop-live | 18:09 |
| Guest66 | I don't feel like reading a guide :D | 18:09 |
| fsmithred | you get xfce | 18:09 |
| fsmithred | the whole monty | 18:09 |
| Guest66 | to be fair I only need devuan to compile stuff | 18:09 |
| Guest66 | but I never installed it in CLI | 18:09 |
| fsmithred | if you want to be more selective, start with a no-desktop install and add what you want. | 18:10 |
| Guest66 | and unless it's like `install-devuan` or similar and then guides you | 18:10 |
| Guest66 | I don't want to have the whole DSL experience right now | 18:10 |
| fsmithred | if you're used to the debian installer, you probably won't like refractainstaller | 18:10 |
| fsmithred | especially the cli version | 18:10 |
| Guest66 | as long as it has an installer | 18:10 |
| fsmithred | yeah, it does. | 18:10 |
| Guest66 | lemme try that | 18:10 |
| Guest66 | well it's graphical! | 18:11 |
| Guest66 | what are you on about :D | 18:11 |
| Guest66 | it has curse and all | 18:11 |
| Guest66 | blue background | 18:11 |
| Guest66 | menus | 18:11 |
| Guest66 | all the usual | 18:11 |
| fsmithred | just for locale, keyboard and timezone | 18:12 |
| Guest66 | ah | 18:12 |
| Guest66 | lemme see the rest | 18:12 |
| fsmithred | after that, it looks like the old xf86 config utility. | 18:12 |
| Guest66 | never used that | 18:12 |
| Guest66 | lemme have a look | 18:12 |
| Guest66 | looks like the zsh config propmt | 18:13 |
| Guest66 | prompt* | 18:13 |
| fsmithred | it's bash | 18:13 |
| Guest66 | yeah I mean | 18:13 |
| Guest66 | shell is shell amarite? | 18:13 |
| fsmithred | $SHELL is /bin/bash | 18:14 |
| Guest66 | not on my machine. | 18:14 |
| fsmithred | I'm root at the moment, but I'm sure it's the same for the user | 18:14 |
| fsmithred | in the minimal-live iso? | 18:14 |
| Guest66 | I have csh, ksh | 18:14 |
| Guest66 | on alpine I have ash | 18:14 |
| Guest66 | and for my user, zsh | 18:14 |
| Guest66 | usually, I don't install bash unless it's absolutely necessary | 18:15 |
| fsmithred | yeah, but those should not affect the shell in the live session | 18:15 |
| Guest66 | and when I said "on my machine" I meant on the machine, not on the vm ;) | 18:15 |
| Guest66 | sorry for being very unclear. | 18:15 |
| Guest66 | however, in the partition menu, if I select 1, it tells me that gparted is missing | 18:15 |
| Guest66 | 2 is somehow also saying that gparted is missing with an extra step | 18:16 |
| Guest66 | `gdisk` seems to work however. | 18:16 |
| fsmithred | yeah, if you already have partitions, you can use them | 18:16 |
| fsmithred | or you can run gdisk or cfdisk | 18:16 |
| Guest66 | probably because I don't even have a disk on that vm | 18:16 |
| Guest66 | :D | 18:16 |
| fsmithred | lol | 18:16 |
| Guest66 | I should probably stop it. | 18:16 |
| fsmithred | oh yeah | 18:16 |
| Guest66 | anyhow | 18:16 |
| Guest66 | let's try to go and remove some of your parameters from that command | 18:17 |
| Guest66 | and see when it panicks | 18:17 |
| Guest66 | today is the day of the software crashes | 18:19 |
| Guest66 | even my android email client crashed when I updated it. | 18:19 |
| Guest66 | now it does not have a functional widget anymore. | 18:19 |
| Guest66 | yay. | 18:19 |
| Guest66 | I know, unrelated | 18:19 |
| fsmithred | qemu-system-x86_64 -name _backports.img -enable-kvm -m 1400 -cdrom devuan_daedalus_5.0.preview_20220413_amd64_desktop-live.iso -boot order=d -drive file=_backports.img,format=raw -vga std -soundhw hda -smp cores=2,threads=2 | 18:20 |
| fsmithred | ^^^ That boots the cdrom with virtual drive attached | 18:20 |
| Guest66 | format=raw | 18:20 |
| Guest66 | here you got it. | 18:20 |
| Guest66 | that's the diff | 18:20 |
| fsmithred | my disk files are .img | 18:20 |
| fsmithred | I hardly ever use qcow | 18:20 |
| Guest66 | yeah I mean the extension does not matter to qemu | 18:20 |
| Guest66 | but yeah, I see. | 18:20 |
| Guest66 | so far, I used qcow, first time it's a problem | 18:21 |
| Guest66 | but there's a first time for everything I guess. ;) | 18:21 |
| fsmithred | I think I have a qcow image to test | 18:22 |
| Guest66 | love that the default password is toor | 18:24 |
| Guest66 | it's like "ah, I see some things don't change" | 18:24 |
| fsmithred | lol | 18:24 |
| Guest66 | well it booted without smp as expected | 18:24 |
| fsmithred | on my refracta isos, I don't even bother to turn the word around. root:root, user:user | 18:24 |
| Guest66 | but I'll just go with the raw image in my script | 18:24 |
| Guest66 | and boot that | 18:24 |
| Guest66 | to see if that just works. | 18:25 |
| Guest66 | huhu | 18:25 |
| Guest66 | that's actually okay unless you want some sort of security | 18:25 |
| Guest66 | also I get a warning with your sound option | 18:25 |
| fsmithred | right. It's not supposed to last beyond the installation. | 18:25 |
| Guest66 | `qemu-system-x86_64: warning: '-soundhw hda' is deprecated, please use '-device intel-hda -device hda-duplex' instead` | 18:25 |
| Guest66 | just so you know. | 18:25 |
| fsmithred | yeah, I get that warning, too. And their suggestion does not work for me. | 18:26 |
| Guest66 | woot? | 18:26 |
| Guest66 | "not work" as in "stops qemu from performing as expected"? | 18:26 |
| Guest66 | (e.g. does not start?) | 18:26 |
| Guest66 | (or no sound?) | 18:26 |
| fsmithred | no sound | 18:27 |
| Guest66 | since I'm here | 18:27 |
| Guest66 | what's a reasonable minimal size for a devuan system? | 18:27 |
| Guest66 | is 2GB enough? | 18:27 |
| fsmithred | for a minimal install, yeah. Full desktop takes up around 4.5G | 18:28 |
| fsmithred | how much space do you need for compiling stuff? | 18:28 |
| Guest66 | not much for now | 18:28 |
| fsmithred | be generous | 18:28 |
| Guest66 | ok | 18:29 |
| Guest66 | Well I'm poor in disk space | 18:29 |
| Guest66 | but I'll try | 18:29 |
| Guest66 | (got 60GB total) | 18:29 |
| Guest66 | (old SSD) | 18:29 |
| Guest66 | (I know) | 18:29 |
| Guest66 | still have 34GB avail so... | 18:29 |
| fsmithred | I'm usually unhappy if I make a vm less than 8G | 18:29 |
| Guest66 | I guess I can spare 4GB | 18:29 |
| fsmithred | but that's with desktop stuff | 18:29 |
| Guest66 | and avoid using GUI at all | 18:29 |
| fsmithred | that'll work | 18:29 |
| Guest66 | also | 18:30 |
| Guest66 | what's the `-name` parameter for? | 18:30 |
| Guest66 | never used that... | 18:30 |
| fsmithred | puts the name in the title bar | 18:30 |
| fsmithred | so I know wtf I booted | 18:31 |
| fsmithred | I test a lot of isos. Easy to get lost. | 18:32 |
| Guest66 | that moment when you go for running your script | 18:32 |
| Guest66 | and you go like `make clean` | 18:32 |
| Guest66 | and facepalm. | 18:32 |
| Guest66 | ah right it's the name of the window | 18:32 |
| Guest66 | noice. | 18:32 |
| Guest66 | thanks! | 18:32 |
| fsmithred | I often have vm windows and vnc windows (sometimes with vm inside) | 18:33 |
| Guest66 | funny | 18:33 |
| fsmithred | all at the same time | 18:33 |
| Guest66 | I did a raw image | 18:33 |
| Guest66 | specified your command | 18:33 |
| Guest66 | kernel panick | 18:33 |
| Guest66 | v_v | 18:33 |
| fsmithred | you converted a qcow to .img or you had one laying around already? | 18:34 |
| Guest66 | I deleted the qcow and used `qemu-img` to make the raw one | 18:34 |
| fsmithred | ok | 18:34 |
| fsmithred | it doesn't like the smp? | 18:34 |
| Guest66 | I dunnoi | 18:35 |
| Guest66 | dunno* | 18:35 |
| Guest66 | look here is my command | 18:35 |
| Guest66 | `qemu-system-x86_64 -name install-test -cdrom devuan_chimaera_4.0.0_amd64_minimal-live.iso -boot order=d -drive file=test.img,format=raw -vga std -soundhw hda -smp cores=2,threads=2` | 18:36 |
| Guest66 | then I get `qemu-system-x86_64: warning: This family of AMD CPU doesn't support hyperthreading(2)` | 18:36 |
| Guest66 | and then | 18:36 |
| Guest66 | `Please configure -smp options properly or try enabling topoext feature.` | 18:36 |
| Guest66 | But that's it | 18:36 |
| fsmithred | so drom the threads=2 | 18:36 |
| fsmithred | drop | 18:36 |
| Guest66 | (plus the warning about hda) | 18:36 |
| Guest66 | sure | 18:36 |
| Guest66 | now I only have the hda warning | 18:36 |
| fsmithred | you could drop that, too | 18:36 |
| Guest66 | yes | 18:37 |
| Guest66 | but it does not change the kernel panick | 18:37 |
| Guest66 | v_v | 18:37 |
| fsmithred | shit | 18:37 |
| Guest66 | as soon as I put a drive | 18:37 |
| Guest66 | it panicks | 18:37 |
| Guest66 | gosh darnit | 18:37 |
| fsmithred | there are other ways to designate the drive | 18:37 |
| Guest66 | sure but... | 18:37 |
| Guest66 | I'm guessing if it panicks... | 18:37 |
| Guest66 | WAAAAIT | 18:38 |
| Guest66 | I removed the drive | 18:38 |
| Guest66 | and it panicks as WELL | 18:38 |
| Guest66 | I'm guessing it does not like the `-boot d` option | 18:39 |
| Guest66 | nope, removed that too | 18:39 |
| Guest66 | also panick | 18:39 |
| Guest66 | WTF? | 18:39 |
| fsmithred | Here's the script that makes the custom initrd for the minimal-live: https://git.devuan.org/devuan-sdk/live-sdk/src/branch/master/blends/devuan-minimal-live/chimaera/scripts/create_initrd.sh | 18:39 |
| Guest66 | one sec | 18:39 |
| fsmithred | try the desktop-live. It has stock kernel and initrd | 18:39 |
| Guest66 | I gotta make it work again and see what's different | 18:39 |
| Guest66 | right now | 18:39 |
| Guest66 | `qemu-system-x86_64 -cdrom devuan_chimaera_4.0.0_amd64_minimal-live.iso` | 18:39 |
| Guest66 | that alone panicks | 18:40 |
| Guest66 | v_v | 18:40 |
| Guest66 | I mean... | 18:40 |
| Guest66 | it's not like it should. | 18:40 |
| fsmithred | ok, I need to get something to eat. Back in a few minutes. | 18:40 |
| Guest66 | waaaaaait | 18:40 |
| Guest66 | lemme try to remove the ram allocation | 18:41 |
| Guest66 | Also, guten. | 18:41 |
| Guest66 | So | 18:41 |
| Guest66 | Basically | 18:41 |
| Guest66 | `qemu-system-x86_64 -m 768 -cdrom devuan_chimaera_4.0.0_amd64_minimal-live.iso` boots | 18:42 |
| Guest66 | `qemu-system-x86_64 -cdrom devuan_chimaera_4.0.0_amd64_minimal-live.iso` crashes | 18:44 |
| Guest66 | spot the difference :D | 18:44 |
| Guest66 | Ok so I modified my script to actually specify how much ram it should use. | 18:46 |
| Guest66 | and maybe I want to increase that in order to speed compilation a little bit more | 18:46 |
| Guest66 | yeah works. | 18:47 |
| Guest66 | ah well | 18:47 |
| Guest66 | now you know, if you don't have enough RAM, the initrd will simply bail out and the kernel will panick. | 18:48 |
| Guest66 | hmm, 2GB of disk seems to be rather limited for recent software... | 18:50 |
| Guest66 | also, lol, the default RAM is apparently 95MB | 18:53 |
| Guest66 | for some weird reason | 18:53 |
| Guest66 | that installer is totally okay | 18:55 |
| Guest66 | it's actually very usable. | 18:55 |
| Guest66 | quite verbose during install I must say | 18:55 |
| Guest66 | but that's in true debian legacy fashion | 18:55 |
| Guest66 | "Scroll the screen so fast no human can read and we'll know it's working" | 18:56 |
| fsmithred | it's rsync running, so the verbosity is all or none. | 18:57 |
| Guest66 | binary verbosity. | 18:57 |
| fsmithred | I chose 'all' because I like to see stuff happening | 18:57 |
| Guest66 | that's the mark of great software :D | 18:57 |
| Guest66 | nah, I totally get that. | 18:57 |
| Guest66 | at least when something is hanging where it shouldn't, you can see it. | 18:58 |
| Guest66 | there's nothing worse than software silently hanging. | 18:58 |
| Guest66 | silently failing comes in close second. | 18:58 |
| fsmithred | and with rsync you get to see the big files you forgot to exclude | 18:58 |
| Guest66 | yeah | 18:58 |
| Guest66 | to be fair | 18:58 |
| Guest66 | it works really well | 18:58 |
| Guest66 | I'm happy with it so far. | 18:59 |
| fsmithred | thanks | 18:59 |
| Guest66 | even gives you a nice summary of what's gonna happen to your disk | 18:59 |
| Guest66 | in case, you know, you screwed a choice up | 18:59 |
| Guest66 | aaah crap | 18:59 |
| Guest66 | I forgot to reset the installer ISO to 4.0 | 19:00 |
| fsmithred | oh, did you just install daedalus or something? | 19:00 |
| Guest66 | now beowulf | 19:00 |
| Guest66 | v_v | 19:00 |
| Guest66 | daedalus would have been actually fine | 19:00 |
| Guest66 | ok so | 19:01 |
| Guest66 | I should probably delete the disk | 19:01 |
| Guest66 | re-create one | 19:01 |
| Guest66 | delete the faulty ISO | 19:01 |
| Guest66 | and reboot | 19:01 |
| fsmithred | you can just reformat and reinstall | 19:01 |
| fsmithred | with the right iso | 19:01 |
| Guest66 | yeah but re-creating the image takes absolutely no time | 19:02 |
| Guest66 | so... | 19:02 |
| Guest66 | ok so as soon as this works I'll go to the hardware store | 19:03 |
| Guest66 | I gotta say | 19:04 |
| Guest66 | you made it sound a lot more challenging than it was :P | 19:04 |
| Guest66 | (about the installer) | 19:04 |
| fsmithred | based on the reactions I've seen in others | 19:04 |
| Guest66 | I was afraid I had to read like 15 pages of wiki | 19:04 |
| fsmithred | lol | 19:04 |
| Guest66 | inter-linking to each other | 19:04 |
| Guest66 | in various sections | 19:04 |
| Guest66 | with hundreds of gotcha | 19:04 |
| Guest66 | and obscure configuration options | 19:05 |
| fsmithred | there are some of those | 19:05 |
| Guest66 | à la centos | 19:05 |
| fsmithred | but they aren't required | 19:05 |
| Guest66 | yeah exactly | 19:05 |
| Guest66 | and also most of the installation happens unattended. | 19:05 |
| fsmithred | and you learn about them by reading the config file | 19:05 |
| Guest66 | which is what I want :D | 19:05 |
| Guest66 | bro, a config file is hundreds of times better than a wiki | 19:06 |
| Guest66 | you don't need an uplink to read a config file. | 19:06 |
| fsmithred | and the answer is right there in front of you | 19:06 |
| Guest66 | exactly. | 19:06 |
| Guest66 | like it was the entire time with me running a VM on 95MB of ram and wondering why initrd was bailing out and the kernel crashing | 19:07 |
| Guest66 | to be fair, it should probably spit something out about running out of memory | 19:07 |
| Guest66 | but yeah, well, it wasn't obscure stuff. | 19:07 |
| fsmithred | would be nice. I ran into a similar problem trying to boot a VM with encrypted root fs. | 19:08 |
| Guest66 | yeah | 19:08 |
| fsmithred | it requires 2G ram | 19:08 |
| Guest66 | oh wow | 19:08 |
| Guest66 | good to know. | 19:08 |
| Guest66 | you know | 19:08 |
| Guest66 | even if it does not spit an error | 19:08 |
| Guest66 | maybe make sure you have a warning about it after the probe? | 19:08 |
| Guest66 | or like, try and detect low memory and prompt for user confirmation? :D | 19:08 |
| fsmithred | warning where? | 19:08 |
| fsmithred | in the boot menu, maybe | 19:09 |
| Guest66 | like `you're running a machine with a very low amount of memory (95MB). It can cause the kernel to panick during initrd loading, are you sure you want to continue?` | 19:09 |
| Guest66 | after the boot menu, like, first step of the initrd. | 19:09 |
| Guest66 | and if you have an encrypted disk, maybe add a note about that? | 19:10 |
| Guest66 | ok I found a bug in the script | 19:11 |
| Guest66 | when I change workspaces in my WM, I use meta-number | 19:11 |
| Guest66 | and this chat on the workspace 1 | 19:12 |
| Guest66 | so meta-1 | 19:12 |
| Guest66 | now, the gparted tool isn't installed | 19:12 |
| Guest66 | and it won't let me go after that | 19:12 |
| Guest66 | I was able to select 2 | 19:12 |
| Guest66 | but then I can't actually leave that menu | 19:12 |
| Guest66 | I have to first select another window and then it does not eat the wrong input | 19:13 |
| Guest66 | raaah fuck I went too fast and did not prompt the right place for the bootloader | 19:15 |
| fsmithred | I'm lost | 19:16 |
| Guest66 | ok so | 19:16 |
| Guest66 | 1. problem with the partition menu | 19:16 |
| Guest66 | it got '1' when it wasn't supposed to because of an OTHER software passing the input to qemu | 19:16 |
| Guest66 | 2. I fumbled with the bootloader and had to restart the install | 19:17 |
| fsmithred | anyway, free -m shows 59mb used in the minimal live. ps_mem.py shows qemu using 440mb | 19:17 |
| Guest66 | also for some weird reason | 19:18 |
| Guest66 | the installer said "you will be asked about a bootloader later" | 19:18 |
| Guest66 | I wanted to be asked now... | 19:18 |
| Guest66 | =/ | 19:18 |
| Guest66 | I was asked now earlier... | 19:18 |
| fsmithred | lol. too bad. | 19:18 |
| Guest66 | how is that happening? | 19:18 |
| * used____ reads backlog | 19:18 | |
| fsmithred | you might get asked twice and/or it might install the bootloader twice. | 19:18 |
| Guest66 | no problem to me | 19:18 |
| Guest66 | okay, I'll bbl | 19:18 |
| fsmithred | it's a product of the weirdness in how the installer handles grub | 19:18 |
| Guest66 | gotta go now | 19:18 |
| used____ | brr how can you live with csh ksh -- 1st thing I do on NetBSD is install bash. | 19:19 |
| Guest66 | oh | 20:04 |
| Guest66 | I see | 20:04 |
| Guest66 | now it has to install grub and THEN set the bootloader up | 20:04 |
| used____ | Of course. | 20:04 |
| Guest66 | yeah but that happened at the BEGINNING of the installation, before. | 20:05 |
| Guest66 | not sure what I changed. | 20:05 |
| Guest66 | Maybe the version of devuan? | 20:05 |
| Guest66 | 3 vs 4? | 20:05 |
| used____ | Rebooted ;) | 20:05 |
| Guest66 | maybe | 20:05 |
| used____ | That makes it the 2nd try I guess. | 20:05 |
| Guest66 | ? | 20:06 |
| Guest66 | weird | 20:07 |
| Guest66 | the installer goes like "select one (enter a, b or c)" | 20:07 |
| Guest66 | and then there's 4 options, 1, 2, 3 and 4. | 20:07 |
| * Guest66 scratches head | 20:07 | |
| Guest66 | either way | 20:08 |
| Guest66 | let's see how it boots | 20:08 |
| fsmithred | If you were where I think you were (choosing grub location) then it would either be 1, 3 and 4 or 2, 3 and 4, depending on which grub is installed in the live system and which way you booted (bios or uefi) | 20:13 |
| fsmithred | pick one that sounds good | 20:14 |
| Guest66 | nah that was for sudo | 20:27 |
| Guest66 | 1) no sudo | 20:27 |
| Guest66 | 2) something (keep root account) | 20:28 |
| Guest66 | 3) only sudo (disable root account) | 20:28 |
| Guest66 | 4) only reboot with sudo (keep root account) | 20:28 |
| Guest66 | but the funny part was the message (choose any of a, b or c) while there was options like 1, 2, 3, 4 | 20:31 |
| fsmithred | that's the one I was talking about | 20:31 |
| fsmithred | or maybe not. Are you sure there were letters for choices? | 20:32 |
| fsmithred | I thought I changed them all to numbers to be multi-lingual. | 20:32 |
| fsmithred | did it reboot ok? | 20:33 |
| fsmithred | I'm going outside. bbl. | 20:33 |
| Guest66 | the letters weren't for the choices | 20:50 |
| Guest66 | they were for the text. | 20:50 |
| Guest66 | and yes it did reboot ok | 20:50 |
| fsmithred | found it. Thanks. | 21:23 |
| Guest66 | you're welcome | 21:34 |
| Guest66 | so all in all | 21:36 |
| Guest66 | system is up to date | 21:36 |
| Guest66 | everything installed fine | 21:36 |
| Guest66 | the dhcp client isn't started at boot | 21:37 |
| Guest66 | that might be an issue :D | 21:37 |
| Guest66 | it's taking 2.9GB | 21:39 |
| Guest66 | good thing I didn't go with 2... | 21:39 |
| Guest66 | damn | 21:43 |
| Guest66 | poweroff isn't in the PATH of users | 21:43 |
| Guest66 | so `doas poweroff` isn't found | 21:43 |
| Guest66 | ok the system works just fine | 22:11 |
| Guest66 | let's try to compile shit now | 22:11 |
| Guest66 | okay! | 23:09 |
| Guest66 | so it's my first successful compilation! | 23:09 |
| Guest66 | thanks guys! | 23:09 |
| Guest66 | (and by successful, I do mean that actually does what I want) | 23:10 |
| Guest66 | (it did build a few times 'til now, but it had random and crappy behavior, such as "missing X feature" in the libs and such) | 23:10 |
| Guest66 | okay thanks fsmithred | 23:10 |
| Guest66 | you were very helpful! | 23:10 |
| Guest66 | have a good one everyone! | 23:10 |
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