libera/#devuan/ Sunday, 2022-07-31

spac3rWas logged out. su - update-grub grub-install --bootloader-id=debian00:11
spac3rWorks! 🎉🎉  All set TYVM!00:11
fsmithred:)00:13
HelenahMaybe I forgot something, I used systemd for the longest of times. Putting an init script in /etc/init.d/ doesn't seem to have it autostart at init.01:49
debdogHelenah: you'll need a link in /etc/rcX.d/ , too01:56
debdoga link to the script01:57
debdogwell, I am a noob with this01:57
debdogX is the runlevel, if that rings a bell01:58
HelenahOh02:05
HelenahI think I remember something like that. :302:06
fsmithredman update-rc.d02:06
Helenahthanks02:07
fsmithredthere's also sysv-rc-conf if you want a quick and easy way to turn stuff off and on in particular runlevels.02:10
kolofonhi, i'm a supposed spammer at dev1galaxy12:19
dbbsQuestion, if I used a usb 3.1 flash drive and installed devuan on it, would it be about as fast as dual booting from an hdd? Could I make it persistent?12:20
dbbsI've never been called a spammer but google thinks I'm a robot sometimes several times in a week12:20
kolofoni wated to register there and was redirected here12:21
dbbsI don't know what that's about12:22
kolofonUnfortunately it looks like your request is spam. If you feel this is a mistake, please direct any inquiries to the forum administrator at IRC #devuan at irc.libera.chat12:22
dbbsI guess if that's the case wait for people to wake up, I wasn't expecting an answer to my question anytime soon either lol12:24
gnarfacegolinux: ^12:25
gnarfacesomeone will look into it, kolofon12:25
gnarfaceyou might have to wait a few hours12:25
kolofonthanks12:25
kolofondo i need to do anything?12:25
gnarfacedbbs: it really depends on the speed of the flash. the answer is probably not, but the bottleneck won't be the usb bus, it'll be the media itself12:26
dbbsokay gnarface12:26
dbbsthanks12:27
gnarfacekolofon: probably not unless the ip you're connecting with here is different from the one you used to try to get to the forum, but i'm not sure12:27
kolofonok, so i should register here then12:27
gnarfacedbbs: instead of cheap flash if it's an actual harddrive, that should be more similar in performance12:27
kolofoni've been trying to, in fact, but don't know, how to open the nickserv (or what was it?)12:28
gnarfacekolofon: i think try: /msg NickServ help12:28
kolofonok, it works, tx12:28
dbbsYeah it's a 7200 rpm hdd, I just don't have enough ssd space to dual boot with12:28
gnarfacedbbs: oh, that should be fine... the usb3 bus shouldn't bottleneck that12:28
dbbsall right12:29
dbbscoolio12:29
dbbs:312:29
gnarfacesome like usb keychain though, the flash they use in those usually tops out at somewhere between 1/3 or 1/5th of the speed of 7200rpm spinning platters12:29
gnarfaceand you can't fix that with a faster usb port12:30
dbbsI see I see.12:30
dbbsI kind of suspected that might be the case12:30
dbbsnever see ssd like speeds out of usb pen drives12:31
kolofoni've registered.  shouldn't i send a pm to an admin?12:34
kolofonare they the ones with _ in front of their names?12:35
gnarfacekolofon: i believe i've already flagged the admin, you should just wait until morning12:39
gnarfaceand no, i don't think the _ is any special designation here12:40
kolofonok, cheers12:40
spine-o-saurushay so I found out what the issue was with the weird glitching cursor. I had to update to the latest firmware15:21
spine-o-saurusthe linux firmware was too old and didn't work properly15:21
spine-o-saurusIm trying to figure out how to disable openrc from starting services immediately that I just install15:26
spine-o-saurusor how to stop it from adding to default runlevel15:26
gnarfacei think it's something the packages' scripts do, you might have to actually alter the packages before installing them if you want to be sure nothing starts15:29
gnarfaceremoving stuff from the runlevels afterwards should be easy though15:30
gnarfacei think the openrc install will still just use the /etc/rc*.d symlinks won't it?15:30
spine-o-saurusi uninstalled the kernel but every time i run apt commands now, dracut wants to do something with the non-existant kernel stuff15:30
spine-o-saurusthat was after i uninstalled the kernel but every time i run apt commands stuff15:32
gnarfacelike what?15:32
gnarfaceyou need a kernel though don't you?15:32
spine-o-saurusi built the custom kernel but i never made it a packaged install15:32
gnarfaceoh, you probably should do that, and make sure to install the headers too15:33
gnarfacesome stuff needs headers and if you don't know what does or doesn't it could be an issue15:33
gnarfaceyou might have missed actual things from the kernel build too though i imagine15:33
gnarfacewhat types of errors are you getting?15:33
gnarfacethere's a tool for making kernel packages called kernel-package, you should check it out15:34
spine-o-saurusyeah, it is dangerous but all seems to run fine so far15:34
gnarfacethough the actual debian kernel source is supposed to have self-building scripts in it15:34
spine-o-saurusE: The repository 'http://deb.devuan.org/merged daedalus-updates Release' does not have a Release file.15:37
spine-o-saurusIm getting this error on update is that even exist or just delete it from sources.lst?15:37
gnarfacedelete it, only the stable release has the "-updates" one15:38
gnarfacedaedalus is the testing release15:38
spine-o-saurusya that was the one that only worked for my system though15:38
gnarfacedon't worry it will still get all the updates15:39
fifiopenbsdyoo15:41
golinuxDang, kolofon is gone . . .16:16

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